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How would one craft a compelling case for caring about virginity

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How would one craft a compelling case for caring about virginity (especially on the female side) without resorting to "morals" ?
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Would you rather crack open a new soda or drink a soda that someone else stuck his penis into?
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The more men a woman has fucked the likelier it is she is promiscuous and she will go fuck someone else outside your partnership, leading to you risking having too raise someone else's offspring.
I think.
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>>1255416
This also means women should avoid promiscuous men. A promiscuous man is more likely to father children outside of the relationship which could drain attention and resources away from your children.
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>>1255532
But on the other hand, if a bunch of other women see something in a man he's probably worth trying to keep for yourself.
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>>1255532

Not exactly, it makes sense for women to share high status men.

It's better to share a guy who makes $100k with another woman than be monogamous with a low status man who makes $20-30k. I simplified it but this is how it has been throughout history.

But as a male it's better to get a harem as you astronomically raise the chances of your genes passing. That's why apparently back in ancient Egypt 17 women reproduced per 1 man. Those pharaohs knew what they were doing.
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>>1255568
One could make the same argument in the opposite direction. A women with many men interested in her is obviously valuable.

>>1255588
>It's better to share a guy who makes $100k with another woman than be monogamous with a low status man who makes $20-30k.
Attention from both parents leads to better children. If you are one wife among many than it increases the competition for your children getting paternal care. It also has the potential to screw over your children's chances for inheriting any of that wealth as one wife and certain children are going to be favored over others.

While it may not matter for some women, it would also lead to a loss of personal power.as you would be competing with the other wives for power in the family. Women who find satisfaction in asserting themselves could find this an unfulfilling situation.

If only the ruler has a harem it wouldn't cause much of a problem from a population standpoint, but a society where polygamy has gotten out of hand would lead to many men without the potential for a spouse, which could lead to societal unrest.
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>>1255327
Are you using a particular meaning of the word "morals"?

If we mean morality in the formal sense, then it would be impossible to construct an argument for action without morality. That's exactly what morality involves.
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>>1255532
It means more babies made. That's it. No more no less.
It sounds like /r9k/ but that has been a pretty efficient way to reproduce in better numbers for a good portion of the animal kingdom.

Successful man passes on his genes more often, offspring inherits genes of father, including being likely to inherit the qualities that made him successful, rinse and repeat.

Now from an ethical point of view, no, it shouldn't matter. But if you're wanting justification as to why it happens then that is your answer.
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Stds

Children

Child support

U.s. laws in general would also shit on marriage tho
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>>1255532
If a woman gets pregnant, someone else can't get her pregnant for some time and the birth itself will hurt her and maybe even kill her.

If a man gets another woman pregnant he may stoll get other women pregnant, and the pregnancy won't hurt him.
If a woman gets pregnant her husband can no longer make her carry his children but if a man gets someone pregnant nothing stops him from doing the same with his wife almost instantly.
Also, consider that during big parts of at least the agricultural phase the woman have been depandent on the male rather than the opposite.
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>>1255327
STDs

If you're a woman you should make sure all the men you sleep with are virgins because having an STD significantly decreases your sexual capital

Or you could use a condom like a civilized person
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>>1256041
>One could make the same argument in the opposite direction. A women with many men interested in her is obviously valuable.
Kek. The sexual market value of a single man with a ton of money is pretty much the same as a committed man with a ton of money (maybe more, even) but a beautiful woman with a child is worth next to nothing compared to a beautiful single woman because not only are you paying to raise someone else's child but the mother's attention will be divided.

Men stay valuable even and especially after being claimed as a mate; women generally do not.
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>>1255327
Morally? It's 100% okay. Ethically? It's also 100% okay.
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http://www.medicaldaily.com/dna-sperm-ex-partners-lingers-female-flies-and-influences-genetics-her-offspring-305934
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The humanity is here thanks to men choosing to take pride in serving women and thanks to women loving to be served.
=>Nobody likes a virgin boy

being a virgin means you suck at making women cum, or more generally at entertaining them, especially if you are old, while other men are already proud of fucking women and the one girl that you try to be noticed by.

For virginity in girl, betas think that motherhood is a redemption from slutiness, or non-virginity.
Of course, today, motherhood is delayed by women, if not even disliked, precisely because women want to enjoy the cock carousel for far longer then before, so the motherhood as redemption is replaced by being in a relationship.
Men accept these compromises because they never have the choice when it comes to women and even invent the meme ''our society will continue in the future so it is good that women spread their legs''.

proving my point. virgin = weaklings, not real men

this indeed. why ?
-because people know that women cannot keep their legs closed
-because people know that most men never amount to anything besides wishing to fuck women

virginity is the best discriminant for people:
-good women are not tramps
-good men manage to make something of their lives (but most men are too pathetic to do something that fucking women).

naturally, this non-hedonistic utopia never occurs:
-women spread their legs chasing their fun, especially through sex, thanks to the men ready to serve them
-very few men go beyond women
men never amount to anything besides providing entertainment for women, since providing for women is the easiest thing (even though, most of the time, they will get their orgasms from other men), especially when it comes to giving them gifts.
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Don't use virginity as a sacred identifier, judge on a case by case basis.
It may provide statistical indicators of likely outcomes but do not serve it as higher than yourself.
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>>1255327
Virginity is just a Christian fiction, and is based on their fanaticism about purity.

In reality it doesn't really matter at all.
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