what happened to the ancient egyptians. were they genocided by

>implying ancient egyptians had a different ethnicity
>implying conquest leads to significant change of ethnicity

This is most likely bait.

We're still here dummy

>>1254686
Obviously

/int/ faggots think literally every pre modern war or conquest was a game of thrones tier genocide/rape festival

>>1254686
it did with the usa and normandy

Dey wuz sold as slaves and shipped to America to work on the cotton fields and dem Arabs took their place. But the original Arabs were black to... I get so confuzed...

>>1254686
also its not bait i really am this stupid

>tfw when a qt Egyptian slave will never dance on your lap wearing only a tiny band around her waist until your dick explodes
Why even?

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>>1254703
You know there's a difference between ethnicity and culture as well as language, right?
And the USA one involved a case where iron age farmers met a bunch of neophilic farmers and nomads that had just been devastated by plagues, how often does that happen?

>>1254648
Why cant you just google such a basic question

>>1254696
>game of thrones tier genocide/rape festival
so not particularly brutal, widespread or impactful?

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>>1254734
Because there's a lot of ideology that will act as if the other's views dont exist or propaganda spred by some all powerful boogeyman

>>1254751
Most rulers want tax money and a pacified populace, how are you gonna achive that if you go full genocider?

>>1254648
They converted to christianity and/or islam and are modern egyptians. Most adopted a different language and culture too, arabic. So in a sense you can say they don't exist anymore, but not here in 4chan because blood and genetic heritage is the only important thing.

Coptic is basically not-so-ancient egyptian and survives as a church language among christian egyptians. It was the common language in most of Egypt before the arabization of the region.

>>1254753
And you think 4chan is the best place to go for your information?

>>1254765
We will at least make you the favor of showing there are didderent views.

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>>1254686
>implying conquest leads to significant change of ethnicity

Hey, it happened with Greece.

>>1254775
Proofs?

>>1254775
>greek

>>1254648
the romans happened.

>>1254775
Change the mustache for a philosopher beard and the turkish clothes for a toga and you'll see you're wrong.

WE

>>1254648
I fapped to this picture a lot when I was young

>>1254835
nimsekhmet get back in your sarcophagus.

>>1254860
I said the picture, not that I fapped to Khenut and Herit directly.

>>1254756
Well no shit, but what does this have to do with game of thrones?

>>1254648
>curly black hair
>big lips
>dark skin
I KNEW they were black people. Fucking racist white people hiding the truth.

>>1254835
Are you a footfag?

>>1254919
That reality wasn't like in GOT?

>>1254929
No, eww, why?

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>>1254946
Because typically peoples earliest faps shape their sexual preferences for life desu
Do you have a fetish for brown women, or necrophilia?

>>1254686
>What is Britain

>>1254949
The feet are not the main thing in the pic, not even prominent.
But mediterran qts for lyf desu

>>1254952
>What is anatolia
>what is the middle east
>what is the Balkan

The guy you're replying to, is such an idiot

>>1254936
but it's not like that in GOT either

>>1254648
Neither.

>>1254952
Don't get ahead of yourself, Britain isn't an arab country yet

>>1254961
>anatolia
>the middle east
You sir, are the one who is retarded.
Balkans depends on the conquest

>>1254703
>normandy

Not at all. Normans were primarily Gallo-Roman in ancestry. The initial invading class of Norsemen married into the larger local population, and their descendants spoke French rather than Norse.

>>1254975
t. Tywin Lannister

>>1254648
Neither genocide happened. Ancient Egyptians weren't West African and they weren't Northern European. They were Egyptian, mostly similar to modern Egyptians.

While modern Egyptians have some peninsular Arab and Italian ancestry, it's pretty trivial. Egyptians are descended from the same Northeast African population that has been in modern-day Egypt for tens of thousands of years.

>>1254961
You are aware modern Turks are almost throughoutly assimilated Greeks?

>>1255012
Fuck off Turk Roach

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>>1255247
>Implying Turks won't go full "we wuz pure selyuks"

>>1255012
Greeks, capadocians, armenians, carians, hittites, isaurians, etc. Some were assimilated several times before "becoming" turks (or greeks).

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>>1255297
>tfw no modern day Isaurian pirate kingdom

>>1254835
ancient egyptians probably did it too

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>>1254648

Nigger, they were in the center of human trading for 3000 years. They naturally changed by mixing with everyone for all that time.

>>1255653
I didn't know merchants fucked every woman in every country in their path. In fact, I believed that most merchants in history actually traveled relatively short distances and it was the goods that changed hands traveling a lot. But I might be wrong about that too.

>>1254648
kangs

>>1255653
Fuck off

The overwhelming majority of people would never go 5 miles from home

>>1255663
As i said, 3000 years.

>>1255663
No no not at all

Everybody knows that onion & goat merchants regularly had sex with thousands of women and had children with them

Just try to ignore the fact that Egyptians were (and are) xenophobic as hell and monogamous (in ancient times anyway)

>>1255683
A lot of years for natives to fuck amongst themselves making little anecdotical genetic variance fade into irrelevancy.

>>1255663
>I didn't know merchants fucked every woman in every country in their path
Please don't let this revelation blow your mind, but sailors and soldiers did too.

>>1254648

they got dicked by the sea people, then the nubians, then the greeks, then the romans, then the arabs, then the french, then the jews.

>>1255720
Negligible

Egyptians despised foreigners and always outnumbered them anyway

>>1255719
Like totally happened, right?

>>1255720
And they were a negligible percentage of the population, even if we considered that literally every soldier, merchant and sailor had a son with a native (something that obviously didn't happen).

>>1254648
Nothing, their culture changed.

>>1254648
They tried to invade Assyria and got Assyrian'd.
Then the Persians came and conquered them so they made up some mean stories about Cambyses and told them to Herodotus
Then Alex came and conquered the Persians and they sucked his dick
Then Alex died and his bro Ptolemy stuck around so they sucked his dick for a few generations
Then Romans got sucked into the Mideast by religious fundies in the Levant (what a shocker) and somehow ended up dealing with the Egyptians too. Which I don't know too much about because I need to finish my Josephus.

>>1255726
What about when nubians ruled egypt?

they became modern egyptians

>>1257682
They were invaders.

>>1257902
Were they despised?

>>1257938
no Nubians actually were the best rulers in Egypt and contributed the most to its success

>>1257978
[citation needed]

>>1257938
Yes

They were described as "vile" & "wretched" like the Hyksos, Libyans, Persians, Hittites, Assyrians, and Bedouins

There's a difference between invading a densely populated, agrarian state and invading a sparsely populated area where hunter-gatherers or semi-nomadic agrarians sometimes hang out. Even moreso when the latter have had their population tenthed by disease. That's why Egypt's population is much the same as it was in the ancient world and North America's isn't.

>>1254689
make me one of them pyramids then bucko

>>1258261
kek

>>1254921
I mean I'm sure this is bait but...
They lived in Africa. They aren't subsaharan Africans as the black people are. But they are Africans.
Take any mummy that has had its genome traced. They appear to be most identical to modern middle eastern people who, without contemporary luxuries as AC and getting to spend your day not farming, would be darker brown than they are. If you also think curly hair is an African exclusive trait that's foolish.
In reality, the Egyptians conquered Kushans to the south (modern day Sudan) who were probably a smidge darker (but probably not black) and they traded heavily with Ethiopians and other peoples from the horn of Africa (who were black in the sub-saharan sense). But this doesn't mean that ancient egyptians were black or that black people today should rightfully feel any pride over a HAMITIC (CLOSEST RELATIVE BEING SEMITIC) peoples and their civilization that existed thousands of years ago.

>>1258335
The Hamitic language family is an invalid concept

>>1258335
>Kush people
>not blacker than the ace of spades

>>1254648
When does ancient Egypt history begin? I need an approximate number - when do earliest archeological findings point at?

>>1254648
>that protruding belly

Is this Amarna-era artwork?

>>1254648

>were they genocided by the muslims or romans?

They died, dude. Nobody lives for centuries.

>>1258335
The Kush people are modern-day Sudanese, they're black as fuck tbqh

>>1254696

you mean /pol/

>>1258335
>Kush weren't black

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>>1254835
>tfw no good Egyptian porn

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>>1258335
>Kushans to the south (modern day Sudan) who were probably a smidge darker (but probably not black)
Kushites, no Kushans. Kushans are Central Asians/Indians.

And they definitely were black, as they were always depicted in ancient art. If modern Sudanese are lighter, it's probably because Sudan has always been more pastoral and less densely populated than Egypt, and thus more its population more likely to change over time due to migrations (unlike densely populated Egypt where most of the population stayed the same).

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>>1254921
That's what modern Egyptians around Luxor look like; http://images.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=Luxor+People

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>>1260742
when people think of Egypt they think of the Nile delta which is all roman and arab descendants .They dont look at the rest of eygpt

>>1262388
>which is all roman and arab descendants
not true btw

God wiped them out when Moses freed the Hebrews from Egypt

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>>1262388
>when people think of Egypt they think of the Nile delta
True.

>which is all roman and arab descendants
Not true.

Egypt's population has always been too dense to be affected in any significant way by invasions. This is especially true in the Delta. Ancient and modern Egyptians have always varied from olive-skinned in the north to almost black in the south, while the cultural heart of Egypt in Luxor was/is somewhere in between. The variation is easy to see in Egyptian art.

>>1262446
That's Sumerian

Why can't people get over the fact that the egyptians are still mostly the same,it's like claiming italians are not related to romans because they're christian and don't speak latin,is it because of hollywood giving high expectations to what egypt should be or people being unable to accept the fact that they're now muslims.

>>1254648
They were Islamified; it's a shame really

>>1254705
>Arabs
>Black

Where does this meme come from?
Arabs and Persians etc are white, Arabs aren't Indo-European but Persians are.
I suppose some Arabs are eg the Sudanese actually

>>1254775
>Anglo Saxon on top

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>>1262470
No it isn't.

>>1254648
genetic studies show that the majority of Egyptians havnt moved much over time......same people now as then

only the far far north has ever been noticably thit by imigration(greek, roman, levantine)