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so how would have the USSR ended if trotsky came to power

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so how would have the USSR ended if trotsky came to power instead of stalin?
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>>1249312
Why is this such a meme?
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>>1249326
>country is superpower that has a huge impact on recent history
>country has succession dispute between two extremely different leaders
>what would have happened

You may as well ask why British people care about Hastings.
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Imagine The World-Scale Communist Revolution.
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>>1249312
If this autistic fuck was never born then all women would look like this.
Fuck him, his father should have finished him off.
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>>1249312
It would have gotten it's shit pushed during WWII in all its resources would have gone to promoting foreign revolutions rather than building the USSR's industrial base.
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>>1249312
It would have thrown itself into a suicidal war with the capitalist west which would have led to Russia being divided up into constituent states. It'd b balkanised as fuck.
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>>1249376
Trostky would've won WWII and with less casualties
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>>1249342
>israel
>europe
(((you)))
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>>1249418
This is what Trotskyists actually believe
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>>1249426
It's pretty reasonable, he was a good military leader and he wouldn't have purged every decent leader in the army.
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>>1249376
>implying there would be a WWII when Germany would have been transformed by glorious proletarian revolution and the prot-Nazis snuffed out in the cradle
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Trotsky would have done more to ignite a revolution in Germany, which would have prevented those filthy nazi degenerated from.rising to power.
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>>1249448
Aka, give every country in the world a reason to depose him.
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>>1249312
mandatory reminder sexy stalin is a lie.
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>>1249484
Lets see how good your mugshot looks
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>>1249484
still sexy
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>>1249312
Still would have sided with allies
More interested in building communist countries abroad
Wouldn't have industrialized as quickly or to the extent of stalin
Wouldn't boycott UN meetings, korean war wouldn't happen
Would have taken more of an interest in german politics, trotsky would have supported the communist party, may have stopped rise of nazis
Cold war would have started much sooner. Trotsky would have been trying to influence revolutions much earlier
USSR wouldn't be as much of a centralized superpower
Possible contact war with USA
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>>1249342
ayy what could have been, if only lads
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>>1249484
desu your life is a lie
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>>1249965
what is it that changes in his face through the years? it can't only be the mustache
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>implying the conditions of the pre-WW2 didn't require the suspension of internationalist focus so that the bastion of world socialism could materially develop
>implying socialism in one country didn't in fact prevent the early collapse of the USSR by the hands of the Axis and non-action of the US and UK
>implying the fact that the internationalists failed to create successful revolutions outside of the Soviet periphery didn't itself prove that communist ideology needed to develop in the rest of the world while socialist economy needed to develop in the USSR, to be ready for when the people would awaken from their slumber
>implying that even if the USSR could send its troops to every country and install Soviets that this wouldn't be imperialism and counter-revolutionary
>implying Marxism should be idealist and not materialist
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>>1249975
Nothing, it's clearly the same person.
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Similar, only slightly worse.

Stalin actually implemented most of Trotsky desired domestic policies, such as collectivization of the agriculture and forced industrialization. He only balked from militarization of the labour force because that was too much even for him, it smelled of slavery. Trotsky, being a Jew who hated ethnic Russians, wouldn't have second feelings though.

The more interesting question is how would the U.S.S.R. ended if Bukharin came to power instead of Stalin or Trotsky. Bukharin was the one with truly different ideas on how to mix socialist development with a measure of freedom and market economy, ideas that would later be implemented by Deng Xiaoping in China.
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>>1249342
P.r. means people's republic, right?
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>>1249361
Fucking up Hitler's Nazi Germany is the only thing Stalin did right.
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>>1249965
i know a georgian girl who has his eyes. i think they might be related
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>>1249342
>dat hungary

O.O why did you took that little Transylvania away from Hungary mustache man? you hated romanians anyway didn't you ;_;
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>>1249975
I think he may had some acne problems, my father is the same, looks nothing like his young self
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>>1249484
He's got great hair though
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>>1249955
I think the idea of an earlier Cold War would be far off from what we would consider the Cold War in reality - America was much poorer if we're to assume the depression is still a factor and if we also assume Trotsky stopped the Nazi's in favour of Communism, chances are WWII doesn't start to encourage Americans to significantly increase manufacturing and production within the nation. They also will probably more isolationist as they would look upon Trotsky's spreading of communism and just think "meh."

Granted, yeah, America was recovering from the depression on their own but I think WWII had a huge effect on how America became what it is today.

If anyone was to be an adversary against Trotsky's form of communist spread, it would be Britain and other European nations. If WWII doesn't happen, I'd imagine the Europeans would be more clingy to their colonies and be opposed to Trotsky's communism because of the fact that communism appeals to people who are economically lacking and are generally oppressed.

I feel that communism would have became more widespread if Trotsky was competent in his endeavours to the degree that it would be hard to imagine Europe uniting together to stop it like they did in the actual Cold War. Many of the Europeans would be at odds with one another because of a fully communist Germany and there would also be issues of individual nations not wanting to freely support their rivals colonies.

I may be talking out of my ass here, but that's my take on it.
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>>1249440
>and he wouldn't have purged every decent leader in the army.
>this is what trotskyists actually believe
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>>1249484
Hair game is on point and is too /fa/ for a Georgian thug.
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>>1249342
>mixing latin with cylliric
>"this letter looks like an O, it can't possibly be anything else and screw up the entire text"
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>>1253953
>expecting commieboos not to be completely retarded
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>>1249484
Still fairly handsome
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>no substantial support within the Bolshevik party
>no substantial support within, and knowledge of the RFSR or the UkSSR for carrying out collectivization
>Kulaks take over on the countryside leading to the destabilization of the USSR
>imperialist states use smaller nation states against the USSR (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania etc), as "socialism in one country" theory never implemented
>the USSR falls apart as if it had never existed after a few years/decades

I am not saying that it would not have been overall beneficial to Communism, and the international left movement.
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>>1254030
>You will never inhale Young Stalin's stale sweat and tobacco aroma as his pock-marked cheeks caress your thighs and you run your hands through his greasy hair as his tongue flicks your engorged clit.

Why even live, comrades?
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>>1249484
>implying Dzerzhinsky wasn't the sexiest bolshevik
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>>1249342
Why was Sweden ignored? Why did they stop?
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>>1254121
>as his tongue flicks your engorged clit
Post spinal cord radiograph or leave.
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>>1252725
is that a Trudeau reference?
You are right though.
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>>1249312
>so how would have the USSR ended
It wouldn't, they would still be up to present day.
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>>1249342
>that text
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>>1249332
>two extremely different leaders
>more commie
>slightly more commie
come on now...

>inb4 list of minute difference given arbitrary significance
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>>1255285
Marx taught that we should fight Socialism though???
HASN"T ANYONE READ HIS LETTERS!!!
Why does the manifesto only get attention!?
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>>1249833
The man was literally a manlet.
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>>1252362
Which Georgia? US or the one east of Ukraine?
The latter is the right answer.
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>>1249426
He wouldn't have needed some "great purge" to get the army behind him because the officers already respected and knew him.

He also didn't want a single fucking party system, so take that as you will.
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