Greeks vs. Romans thread >greeks were superior because of

>>1239091
Greeks had Art, Literature, science, and prestige.

Romans had everything Greeks had and more.

>>1239091
Greek logos.

Roman ingenium.

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Greek head.

Roman heart.

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Greek philosophy.

Roman bureaucracy.

>>1239091
Romans were superior in engineering,discipline,colonization and building a functioning society.
Greeks were better at creating memes

>>1239135
Romans didn't have philosophy like the Greeks did, which boils down to culture.

Greek culture was superior to Roman culture. Much of what the Romans had was from the Greeks, but without the cultural prowess behind it, hence why their mythology is not as deep as the Greeks' and why they lacked the philosophical greatness of the Pre-Socratics.

But in politics, Rome was cooler.

>>1239196
>Plucks feathers from a chicken

>Behold I have created a man!

Greece - EU
Rome - USA

Greek culture was free as in freedom. Rome is proprietary.

>>1239091
Romans basically believed that all the Greeks was achieved in science and philosophy, was all that was ever needed and more.

So instead they focused on politics and building shit. Of course, they were wrong, and eventually they devolved into a dictatorship, and then fell apart.

TL;DR: Don't underestimate science and philosophy.

>>1239515
>Greece - EU
>Rome - USA

Good analogy actually.

>>1239988

This. Hellenes even had a variety of distros for you to choose from, and if you didn't like any, you could easily make your own.

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Which one was better at institutionalized pederasty?

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>>1239196
Basically

>>1239477
>philosophy equals culture
Come the fuck on Anon. Greeks spent all day jerking each other's cocks and ignoring their wives, making up useless bullshit like mythology and philosophy while the Roman put their time to good use.

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>>1239091
>art
>philosophy
>good
lol

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DUDE FORMS LMAO

WOW YOU SO SMART PLATO
All greeks were basically autistic faggots

>>1239515
I'd compare Greece to Britain, and Alexander's gains to the British Empire.

>>1241784
Fuck off Plato.

>>1241784
>>1241803

Plato did more harm than good. Fuck neoplatonism

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>>1241784

Reminded that Greece would not reach the wealth it saw before the Roman Occupation until 1920.

>>1242001
Source?

Are you counting the Byzzies as Greeks it Romans?

>>1242011
The Rise and Fall of Classical Greece, Josiah Ober, Princeton.

And that's calculated by looking at the wages of a common laborer in Athens converted into wheat.
During the fourth century B.C., that was about 13-16 liters of wheat a day.

During the Roman Era, 85% of the population was only making subsistance levels (3.5 liters of wheat per day)

>>1239091
>>romans superior in their sense of war

Hardly, the Greeks were the masters of warfare, what the Romans had was a seemingly endless supply of troops. They always lost more than the Greeks when they fought them, but they always made good their losses more quickly than the Greeks could, so eventually they won.

>>1242053
>logistics not being more important than tactics in war

you know being able to raise an army is about as important as it comes to being good at warfare?

>>1242034
Not to start an argument, because I am by no means an expert, but how does that compare with the various citizens of the other city states?

>>1239477
There are a few Roman philosophers, the thing is though, by that time, the Greeks had already established a strong base for the study of philosophy, meaning that there wasn't really a whole lot more that the Romans would've been able to advance in terms of philosophical thought.

There will never be philosophers again who will be considered as great as the Greeks, simply because they did it first, and their teachings are now simply expanded upon and used as groundwork.