We haven't had one in a long time. Good ol fashioned

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Hey bitches, this is now a Sulla thread

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>Fun times in Rome

>>1216143
Did Romans not recruit men with faces?

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>>1216226
A roman has no face

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Hey romaboos, why do your archers suck so much? Unlike the glorious Han army.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjZn4FTHMfY

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>>1216302
> Celebrating Christians

Rome fell in 380 AD.

>>1216567
THIS

>>1216274

Wow why is that Roman giving a Nazi salute.

Why did Majorian have to die? Rome could have healed under him.

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the Marian reforms, Augustus's rule and Caracalla's edict doomed Rome

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Gosh what a mighty empire

>>1217552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8LiQFnkuJY

Pure sex.

>>1216214
MODS BAN THIS SICK FUCK

>>1217822
>General the men are wavering

>>1216141
>Lucius i swear to Dis if you throw that pilum into the back of my head...

>>1217822
HNNNNNGGGGG

Is this a drill or a real riot?

I kind of wish melee was still relevant in modern combat. I'd love if more combat scenes in films were shown like this. So much more interesting than fucking grunting and slashing shit.

>>1217822
I wonder if this would actually work against real rioters

>>1217877
It's a drill, a pretty crazy one at that - the individual combat looks like the individuals were trying their hardest to actually riot in a training scenario.

Who knows who well it would work in an actual riot, I imagine it would work to some extent. An force without a general would just get wreaked in the panic when faced with those tactics, once they start getting split up and what not I imagine everyone doing the bolt.

>>1216246
we wuz romanz

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>>1217822

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH5sDDh71WE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhbzhrfY1Lo

Euromaidan was pure melee goodness and shows you just how well old tactics worked, it's awesome to study it
>shield walls
>fortifications
>supply lines
>siege engines
>shields, helmets and shanks of all kinds
>full plate armor dudes running around
>battle priests flying banners
>fire, ice, chemicals and noise for psychological warfare
>clank clank clank clank clank

>>1217920
It's really something else to be riot police, have to just stand there and take shit and try to grab a rioter every now and again.

Never mid the morality, those men are brave as fuck.

>>1217818
Source?

>>1217920

DEUS VULT

>>1217904

It's not a combat situation, these rioters are not being pressed from behind to charge and can flee and regroup easily. Rioters tend to switch from passive to aggressive stances and might not always be attacking, they're always moving around the police lines and never forming a proper battle line, so these tactics are all show. IRL cops don't EVER show their backs or leave gaps for rioters because they're going to get their shit beaten up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7mOVux83p8

now, compare it to what Romans might have faced, these guys are nowhere near as aggressive or numerous, a Gallic army would be as much or more dense than the Romans and charge with very strong momentum, denying a ton of the manouvering space you see there.

imagine a Black Friday mob instead of Rioters, an avalanche of sword-swinging savages screaming at the top of their lungs in their gibberish language decending upon you, either stabby-stabbing you or trampling you, throwing rocks, javelins and any random crap on the ground(including body parts), compacting you and your comrades among a flesh wall, reeking with all the sweat, blood, guts and shit and an absolutely deafening cacophony of metallic clanging, wails, shrieks and howls. You would be so close to the asshole trying to kill you you'd fucking taste him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DigiWS1YhxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-saZ34qI2U

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>you will never carthage

>>1217552
>the Marian reforms

u wot m8?

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Late Rome best Rome

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>>1218355
Marian reforms set the way for plebs and regular people who didn't care about the state of the Republic to join the Legions, and only cared about their pay and essentially the General who led them. It was still fucking awesome what Marian did.

>>1216246
I wonder if there ever was a small division or contingent of ethnic sub-saharan africans in the Roman army

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>tfw ywn be part of a military expedition that lands on a foreign never explored world and btfo all the primitive savages who inhabit it
Why should I live again?

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>>1217956

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>>1218715

>>1218380
>trousers

That Rome ever tolerated such barbarism

>>1218715
>>1218721
I wish the moralfag police would shut up about gladiator battles. I don't care if a couple of irishmen or whatever sign up to kill eachother.

>>1218645
They probably had some black Africans auxila at some point

>>1217920

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgNfwGMFBzA

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Dacians were bretty cool too desu

>>1218711
Cool pic anon

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TFW

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makes you think doesn't it

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>>1217818
>de_bello_gallico.webm

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>>1218781

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Post your ideal Romes, lads

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>>1218969

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>>1218969
Not enough

>>1218382
>galic wars
>lorica segmentata

shit painting m8

>>1218382
Agreed 100% with you there. It may have been a necessity for the army ultimately, but it was disastrous for stability.

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>>1218969
>>1218976
>>1218986
You all lack ambition.

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>>1218944
>these guys slap your gf's ass, what do you do?

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>>1218726

they wouldn't even need to kill eachother, just get fat so they can bleed a ton.

those webms look too much like Battle of the Nations' not-LARP whacking instead of showing swordmanship though, you gotta have a point-based system for hits but still allow for wrestling moves, kicks and brutal fighting, the point would be to make the fights impressive and entertaining, after all. Damnatio Ad Bestias totally needs to come back though. Those endangered species need a decent breeding program.

i have a question, why was it not ok to have "Samnites" after they became an allied tribe but the Thraex were a thing anyway?

>>1218868
what the fuck

the blade is rusted and aged to shit but the pommel is nice and clean? did they replace the pommel?

WHY?? don't fucking touch it, just create a copy

>>1219062

it's likely that the pommel and grip were missing altogether and they made a reproduction to add it onto the relic blade in order to give a clearer idea of how it looked like to the viewer.

>>1219082
I'm still kind of butthurt. A nice new one next to it would be better and you don't have to mess with something around 2,000 years old much.

>>1218723
Braccae...

>tfw will never bathe in bathhouses with my fellow brawny, sweaty legionnaires

>tfw will never loot dead Gauls for denarii to buy that gladius i saw in the bazaar

>tfw will never spawn a daughter to be sold at 16 as a marriage token to an aristocrat

Why live senpai

>>1219129
Live for the world that tomorrow could be, anon.

All you need is a few, good men.

>>1219129

>tfw cant spend all night at the tavern playing board games, eating fish paste, bread, cabbage and drinking good wine with my fellow Romans
>tfw Pax Romana so joining the legion sucks
>tfw Cursus honorum is useless now and my father wasted his money on that greek slave for me
>tfw have to work early morning at the forum instead of staying at my domus oiling myself like a Patrician
>tfw the Tribune bullies me

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My Name is Nero just got finished being translated.
mega:///#F!119QSBhS!bCe22AtmY6puabi3XL5b1A

>>1219155
>first chapter released in 2012
>second chapter released in 2016
based romaboo scanlator

>>1219025

call the legions

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>>1219207
Yeah, its pretty nice of them.

>>1219153
>Pax Romana, so joining the Legions is shit
From what I know about it, life in the British or Rhine legions in the early 2nd century seems pretty comfy desu

>stand the occasional watch over green British hills
>get away from the drizzle in a warm bathhouse
>hit the taverns with your mates and drink Celtic beer (the top notch beer of the Empire)
>bang qt redheads and blondes that you'd never see back home
>don't do much fighting except dealing with brigands and piss poor Irish and Pictish boat people

Not a bad 15 years. Then you go down to Gaul or Spain for your land, find a wife, own a farm and live the ideal Roman life.

>>1216856
That's called a Roman salute

REMOVE CARTHAGE
https://youtu.be/7UiBQr_PFVY?t=12

>>1219155
>>1219229
Is that made by Yas?

>>1219025
Take 35,000 men to Mattium, murder all the men, women and children, and then burn it to the ground so thoroughly that 21st century archaeologists can't even find it.

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>>1219293
Yup.

>>1218986

We were never taken by the Romans tho

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiberno-Roman_relations

>>1217877
>>1217904
Makes you realise how scary the Romans must have been compared to barbarian rabble

>>1216214
>Tfw this somewhat triggered me

>>1218060
The rioters are basically skirmishers against Romans.

How Caesar dealt with the Numidians who would not engage in melee, they just threw javelins and retreated when attacked
>Faced with an enemy of this kind Caesar proceeded to train his forces, not as a commander trains a veteran army with a magnificent record of victorious achievements, but as a gladiatorial instructor trains his recruits. How many feet they were to retreat from the enemy; the manner in which they must wheel round upon their adversary; the restricted space in which they must offer him resistance — now doubling forward, now retiring and making feint attacks; and almost the spot from which, and the manner in which they must discharge their missiles — these were the lessons he taught them. For it was surprising the amount of worry and anxiety the enemy's light-armed troops were causing our army, what with their making the cavalry chary of engaging for fear of losing their mounts, since the light-armed troops kept killing them with their javelins, and with their wearing the legionaries out by their speediness; for no sooner had a heavy-armed soldier, when pursued by them, halted and then made an attack on them than their speed of movement enabled them easily to avoid the danger.

>>1219053
>i have a question, why was it not ok to have "Samnites" after they became an allied tribe but the Thraex were a thing anyway?
Because the samnites became socii, and they were italics anyway, whereas the thracians were just shitty provincials. Hell they weren't even provinced until like Vespasian, and they only got citizenship under Caracalla.

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Rome a shit

>>1219961
>battle-of-the-teutoberg-forest.jpg
>teutoberg
EVERY TIME

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>>1216299
>wanting to miss out on putting a gladius in someone's ribcage
bitch we got Syrians to bore themselves to death in the back

>>1220085

>Berg

It was Judea all along

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>>1218726
>tfw you will never watch your countrymen battle to the death for your amusement in the Ring of Tara
Why even live

Why is Julius Caesar so husbando-tier.

>his whole portrayal in Rome
>completely destroyed Gaul after they called him a manlet
>chose Octavian to be his successor, who in some god divine miracle kickstarted the golden ages of the Roman Empire and is pretty much the greatest politician

how does he fucking do it?

What are some good Roman literature?

>there are people on this board that really believe the world wouldn't be a better place today if Carthage hadn't crushed those upstart guidos in the punic wars

>>1220168
>devil-worshiping north african jews
>better

>>1220172

>Roman's forced all of Europe to literal worship a dead Jew

how is this Jewier than good old fashioned devil worship?

Which barbarians were top tier barbarians during the Principate

>>1220177
>not knowing that they weren't the closest ethnicity to Jews
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_languages

>>1220191
Illyrians

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>>1220146
>What are some good Roman literature?

>>1220191
Batavians and thracians were pretty bothersome during the principate.
If you also add the dominate, franks, suebi and visigoths were the most important.

>>1220417
Care to explain?

>>1220427
Weren't the Batavians one of the tribes most loyal to Rome(an money)?

>>1220505
>Weren't the Batavians one of the tribes most loyal to Rome(an money)?
Yes, that's why they were top tier. I meant the thracians were bothersome, I fucked up the post.
Also the guy who told you illyrians likely referred to how they made up a pretty large part of the legions after Caracalla, and they gave a lot of excellent generals and even a few emperors. Whether it's fair to call them barbarians however.. Well I suppose the more inland living ones were still tribal and shit, but the coast was thoroughly romanized, and on the whole the region was more or less the same as Gaul.

>>1218645
there were some niggers actually

>>1216827
DELETE

>>1218645
>I wonder if there ever was a small division or contingent of ethnic sub-saharan africans in the Roman army
Not unless you count client kingdoms (vassallized Egypt had some nubian contingents).
Proper niggers could only have been auxiliaries from Egypt or Mauretania, in which case they'd have been a minority within a larger egyptian/mauretanian ethnic identity, or full blown legionaries after Caracalla, which meant they'd have been extreme minorities within wholly non-ethnic units.
In both cases it would have been a quite remarkably rare occurrence, because the african legions generally enlisted from the very populous north african coast, whereas the closest niggers lived pretty damn far from that. Former slaves were also usually too old to enlist, so you can't count those either.
In short, their presence would be a freak occurrence.

>>1219810
It's a fictional map

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Reminder that Rome fell in 1453.

>>1217822
Wow that's really really fucking interesting

>>1220871
fucking mehmed get away from my wall

>>1220871
Ottoman cannon balls can't breach Theodosion walls

>>1218754

Italy never changes

>>1219016
this needs a key

>>1222389
Looks like different administrative divisions. Province, region, prefect.

>>1218711
Where?
Everywhere rome went was known world,either by phoenician or greek explorers and writings

>>1220531
Saint Maurice and some of the Theban legion were black. Which makes sense since they were recruited from all over egypt and Egypt had some black freedmen/enclaves. back then they weren't niggers tho because they knew they weren't civilized down south and wanted to blend in.

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>ywn go back in time and make the plane scene into a hugely influential play

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post your merch and custom made items?

Item #1: the Caligulamp

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>>1223369
item 2, is my blanket depicting a painting the surrender of Vercingetorix to Caesar. printed by the walmart photo center.

>>1223369

How did you even get this

I put it to you that caesar had no intention of taking rome. He was a godsend, and a republican. Jealousy is all that motivated his demise, and if he had stayed alive, the republic would not have fallen

>>1223394
>bought this: http://www.designtoscano.com/product/bust+planters+of+antiquity+statues-+emperor+caligula++-+eu2221.do
>stripped its paint
>papermache the back of his head
>plaster of paris the back of head hair, and the nameplate below the chin
>etch CALIGVLA in the plaster
>spraypaint it white
>install lamp kit. avalable at any hardware store

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>>1223377
Item #3, my Caesar poster

I can post the source file for this, and the blanket on request

>>1223377
Holy shit. That's fucking awesome

>>1218645

Numidians.

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Was the Roman Empire ever a sustainable entity, or was it bound to collapse in on itself?

Was it the next step in a living society or was it the great death of a failed nation, like a supernova?

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>“I have been forced to say this because the Roman writers have no hesitation in saying that the Roman commonwealth had been ruined by moral degradation, and had in fact ceased to exist at all, long before the coming of our Lord Christ Jesus. They did not blame their own gods for this ruin; yet they blame our Lord for the transitory disasters, which cannot bring a good man to extinction, whether he lives or dies. Yet Christ’s teachings is full of instructions for the promotion of the highest morality and the reproof of wickedness, while those gods of theirs never took the trouble to impress such commands on their worshippers so as to save that commonwealth from utter ruin - in fact they were more concerned to ensure its ruin by corrupting morality through the baneful authority of their example. I do not suppose anyone will after this have the face to assert that the commonwealth perished because those gods ‘then deserted all the shrines and altars’ like friends of virtue, disgusted at the vices of men, since they used their efforts, by all those signs in the shape of entrails, auguries, and prophecies, to boast and commend themselves as foreseers of the future and assistants in battle, and thus are proved to have been present. If they had absented themselves, the Romans’ own ambitions would have fired them with less ardour for civil war than did the prompting of the gods.”

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>“Can it be that because of the moral state of citizens like these our opponents will pluck up courage to quote, as usual, this statement of Virgil, in defence of their gods and in reply to us: “The shrines and altars now were all deserted, by all the gods through whom this realm once stood?”. In the first place, suppose it true; then they have no reason to complain against Christianity, or for the assertion that the gods have deserted them in disgust at that religion, because it was the behaviour of their ancestors that drove away that multitude of tiny gods like flies from the altars. But where was all that flock of divinities when, long before the corruption of ancient morality, the Gauls took Rome and set it on fire? Where they there, but asleep perhaps? On that occasion the whole of the city was reduced, and only the Capitol hill remained intact; and that would have been taken if the geese had not kept watch while the gods were sleeping. As a result Rome almost fell into the superstition of the Egyptians, who worship beasts and birds, for they celebrate a yearly Feast of the Goose.”

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>>1220871
Rome fell in 313.

>>1223503
The republic was the orgasm of history, the empire was the comedown that still feels kinda good but then you start feeling bad about what you just fapped to and then it's all ruined

I want to buy miniature replicas of famous statues and sculptures.

Where can I find them? Similar to the bust like in >>1223369 but not JUST busts.

>>1223958
fucking QTs

>>1224150
this has a selection of many different eras.
http://www.museumstorecompany.com/art-collectibles-home-decor/statues-sculpture-figurines/

this is limited to more classical works http://www.statue.com/Products/Classical-Sculpture/

these ones are superb but the prices are get fucked absurd. Might be because they are real marble...
https://www.ancientsculpturegallery.com/sculptures.html


Your best bet is to find a particular piece you like, and google/amazon/etsy search it.

>>1224011
n i c e

>>1224193
Thanks friend, I appreciate it.

>>1218301
that one frame in 560

Thanks justinian, you tried your best.

>see this thread
>desire to play Rome: Total War intensifies

>>1225156
>everything was going so well
>ostrogoth cry to the persians
>persians sweep across the eastern border and the persian king bribes all the towns away from justinian
>justinian loses faith in belisarius when he and the best imperial troops remain in italy
>africa revolts
>PLAGUE
>italy revolts
>justinian goes into a coma

I want to slap Justinian for trying to hard to reconquer so much land without consolidating first.

>>1220871
no, it fell in 1204

the roman empire after that was just a shadow of itself that was finally euthanized by the ottomans.

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>>1223369
only this, banner of the 4th legion.

nice mate. I went to bed but Item #4 is a 13th legion banner

>>1223503
Roman civilization lasted over two and a half thousand years. You tell me if it was sustainable or not.

What's the best Rome historical fiction? I've just finished the Vespasian series by Robert Fabbri and enjoyed it as it but the (lack of) character growth was starting to annoy me.

I dont know much about the romans except the cultural knowledge and Rome total war (1 andd 2)

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>>1225421
where did you get this?

>>1225656
I listened to the audio books for all 6 of the Warrior of Rome series. Incredibly well written and very engaging. The narrator also lent a great depth to the characters, with various accents and emotions in the voicework. Easy to torrent them all, if you like audiobooks, otherwise read the physical copy or a pdf.

If you get the audiobook version, be sure to find the one narrated bt nick boulton. absolutely perfect.

sample here
http://www.audible.com/pd/Mysteries-Thrillers/Fire-in-the-East-Warrior-of-Rome-Audiobook/B0036KZH5Y

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Rome fell in 1922

>>1225715
the latter half of the sample has some examples of the voice accents

>>1225699
>>1225421
nvm, found it

http://www.romanempirestore.com/resources.html

>>1224011
What the fuck are you on about?
It was far better for the majority of people in the empire than it ever was in the republic

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>>1225768
kek

>>1225752

a few of the most important contributions of the Roman civilization were done and gone by the time came about, particularly their brand of highly organized democracy and the citizen's hardcore political involvement, and the huge, classic wars against other powerful nations.

>>1217811
is that meant to be pyrrhus or...?

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>>1225780

i am not sure

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>>1225793

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>>1225795

>>1224193
http://www.museumstorecompany.com/cats-meow-sculpture-collectible/
this is my favorite one they have

Requesting that pic of the tweet by Diocletian saying 'haha how is civil war real like just divide your empire up lmao'

>>1225817
as badly as I want a roman civil war/ Caesars life anime, this image pains me.

>>1225623
>lasted 2.5 thousands years
Wut? Explain pls.

>>1223369
>>1223377
>>1223406
awesome anon, I'm definitely going all classical greek and roman when I get a place of my own

>>1225880
Foundation of Rome to the fall of Constantinople.

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>>1223369
I have it in white, which actually looks p effay, but I'll probably cop the imperial red one soon.

Surprisingly good quality too.

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>>1225888
i have this with on a polo shirt, subtle so you can't really tell until you're close enough for me to [s]SHANK YOU WITH MY GLADIUS[/s]

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>>1225951
>he doesn't have a harem of twinks waiting for him in his villa whose sole purpose in life is to worship his cock

>>1223935
>Headcharging cavalry into spearmen

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>>1216532

Caesar did literally nothing wrong and he had no intentions of becoming king. Prove me wrong

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>>1226765

The Senate gave him very little choice, but at the end of the day he could've not gone into Gaul in the first place, he could've went into exile instead of crossing the Rubicon. In the end he had a choice and he decided to march on Rome.

>>1226765
>made himself dictator for life, basically all the powers of a king

if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

>>1226831
He didn't plan to become king though, he was just getting things in order.
Caesar did everything he did with romes best interest in mind, he was a saint.

>>1226855
>for life,
Only because the life was cut short

>>1225817
*Gaia Julia

>>1226860
> Best interest in mind =/= right thing to do
No matter how good his intentions were, he brought down the Republic.

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>>1218301
every time this is posted I watch it and never fail to get emotional

>1025 never forget

>>1226894
His assassins brought down the republic. If they had let caessr do his thing, everything would have been fine

>>1225656
Read anything by Steven Saylor. He has a series about an ancient detective/lawyer who lives in the time of Julius Caesar. He ends up meeting Caesar and gets involved with a bunch of shit. Also read hia books Roma and Empire.

>>1225960
Used to have that shirt. I fucking loved that thing.

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>>1216246
Ayyo hol' up. Is you sayin' we wuz cohorts? Ain't no way them gallic niggas be steppin' foot in my turf now hommie

>>1223935
>>1223938
Gotta love this attempt by some obnoxious christard to dodge his own religion's culpability in the civil strife that weakened the empire.

Also, when the empire went christian it's not like the western portion didn't collapse anyway.

Today i made bread.

>>1217822
URBAN COHORT!

LOOSE FORMATION!

>>1227771
Testudoooo!

Mars Vult!

>>1226748

Wonder why dont cops use long lances with something blunt and cushioned like a boxing glove at the tip when riding horses to joust niggas into submission.

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>>1227751
True Roman bread for True Romans?

>>1227817
Could non-patricians get that fat in Roman times?

>>1227834
with the OG "muh genetics" sure

>>1218645

Well Rome was big. There must have been a few. But Hollywood would have us believe that 1 out of every 4 Roman was black, and that's obviously false.

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Qui linguam Latinam?

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>“Let us observe the Romans themselves: let us give them further examination. It was said of them, in their particular praise, that it was their custom ‘to spare the conquered and beat down the proud’, and that they chose ‘rather to pardon than to avenge the wrongs’ they suffered.”

>>1223935
>>1223938
Is that Augustine or Salvian or someone?

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>>1225768
Based imperator.

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>>1228030
these are all quotes from St. Augustine's "City of God"

>“But”, they will say, ‘many Christians also have been killed, and many carried off by hideous diseases of all kinds. If one must grieve at this, it is certainly the common lot of all who have been brought into this life. I am certain of this, that no-one has died who was not going to die at some time, and the end of life reduces the longest life to the same condition as the shortest. When something has ceased to exist, there is no more question of better or worse, longer or shorter. What does it matter by what kind of death life is brought to an end? When man’s life is ended he does not have to die again. Among the daily chances of this life every man on earth is threatened in the same way by innumerable deaths, and it is uncertain which of them will come to him. And so the question is whether it is better to suffer one in dying or to fear them all in living.”

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>“There you see the Roman republic changing from the height of excellence to the depths of depravity. And this is no novel assertion of my own; I am indebted for it to Roman authorities, who far preceded the coming of Christ. After the destruction of Carthage, and before Christ’s coming, ‘the degradation of traditional morality ceased to be a gradual decline and become a torrential downhill rush.’ I challenge these Romans to quote injunctions against luxury and greed, given by their gods to the Roman people. Would that they had merely refrained from counselling chastity and restraint, without demanding from the people acts of depravity and shame, by means of which to establish a pernicious authority through a false claim to divine power! I challenge them then to read our Scriptures, and to find, in the Prophets, in the holy Gospel, in the Acts of the Apostles, and in the Epistles, those uniquely impressive warnings against greed and self-indulgence, given everywhere to the people assembled to hear them, in a tone resembling not the chatter of philosophical debates, but the thunder of oracles from the clouds of God. Yet they do not blame their gods for the self-indulgence, the greed and the savage immorality which, before Christ’s coming, brought the republic to those ‘depths of depravity’. They scold the Christian religion for all the humiliations inflicted in those later times on their sophisticated self-esteem

1/2

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>>1228043
>Yet if the teachings of Christianity on justice and morality had been listened to and practiced by ‘kings of the earth and all peoples, princes and all judges of the world, youths and maidens, old and young together’, those of every age capable of reason, male and female, and even the tax-collectors and soldiers addressed by John the Baptist - if all those had listened, the Roman commonwealth would now enrich all this present world with its own happiness, and would ascend to the heights of eternal life to reign in felicity. But some listened, while others rejected, and the majority found the blandishments of sin more congenial than the salutary harshness of virtue; and so Christ’s servants, whether they are kings, princes, or judges, or soldiers, or provincials, whether rich or poor, freemen or slaves, men or women, are bidden, if need be, to endure the wickedness of an utterly corrupt state, and by that endurance to win for themselves a place of glory in that holy and majestic assembly, as we call it, of the angels, in the Heavenly Commonwealth, whose law is the will of God.”

2/2

>>1216214
>Romans are pure silky White
>the Vandals are all darkies

why

>>1225883
when that time comes, please share here my friend.

>>1227834
you do realize that all patricians were not rich, and by extension, all plebians were not poor, right?

Why do Americans loving Romans so much? It is very weird to me.

>>1228088
Thanks to all the historical sources that have survived we know so many details about Roman civilization that it feels more alive and relatable than most of the rest of ancient history.

>>1219303
>>1219229
>>1219155
Just finished the first chapter.

Thank you for showing me this

>>1216922
is that Sultan Koksal Baba?

You snowniggers listen now
I'm gonna tell you how
To keep from getting torchered
When the Legion is on the prowl
Stay at yer hut at night
And lock your door up tight
Don't go outside or else you'll find
Those eagle banners flying high
Now I know you won't believe me
So I'm gonna tell you why
The Augusta XVIII
Is gonna get you by and by
I'm warnin' you that when I'm through
You're gonna change your tune
This story's 'bout a snownigger
His name was Adalwülf
He walked into a Horrea
He thought he'd get a bite
He thought that they would serve him
Since they passed the granting rights
The tribune told him no
And that he'd better go
He said, "No si're, my Basileo Valens say
I don't have to go."
So he sat there in that horrea
Bein' stubborn as a mula
No matter what he said
He wouldn't get up off that stool
He sat there like a jackass
Said, "I'm gonna räid und ræpe.
I came in here to eat, and
I ain't leavin' 'til I've ate."

The tribune had enough
He said, "I'll call your bluff."
He said, "If we can't treat you right
We'll have to treat you rough."
The horn was in his hands
He gave him one more chance
He wouldn't go, and so he called
The Augusta XVIII
When he saw them romans comin'
Adal knew it was too late
His eyes popped out his head
And his curly hair got straight
He said, "Oh lousy bronze folks
I didn't mean a thing.
Why did I have to listen
To that gothic rebel king?"

Now snowniggers understand
They tied up both his hands
He was at the mercy of
The Augusta XVIII
I knew just what they'd do
Adalwulf knew it too
I knew what kind of torture
They would put that snownigger through
Now the moral of this story
As plain as it can be
Snowniggers mind your business
And let us roman folks be
You'd better heed my warnin'
And try to understand
Don't you raid and rape
Around the Augusta XVIII

>>1228088
They were stylish, their famous formations look badass and they used to be super powerful. What's not to like about them?

>>1228070
Probably to make the Vandals look more "terrifying" and "evil" by having darker skin.

>>1228088

The United States was based off of the Roman Republic but with Anglo-Saxon law.

>>1228400

Fun fact, Latin almost became the official language of the United States instead of English and it was suggested that Senators wear togas on the job.

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Rome is overrated, the west is founded on Judeo-Christian values, not classical ones. Anyone who says otherwise is a closeted fedora-wearing Nazi.

>>1228403
Yeah, im going to need an alt-history book that describes that utopia.

>>1228415
nice pic

>>1218944
SIGNA FERTE

>>1228403
Were there really enough Latin speakers for that?

>>1228629
At that point, latin was still a fundamental teaching in upper class education. You'd be more likely to know latin than geometry if you were gentry.
That said, only the highly educated (like college educated) would have been conversant in latin.

>>1228776
Perhaps someone on this board can help. I need to translate this phrase, but google translate it shit. If one of you patricians could be so kind as to translate it, I would be grateful.
>et sustinuisti laborem in laetitia

>>1228861
>and you accepted work with joy
I think. My latin is rusty.
Context would help.

>>1228861
having only googled the last word, it looks like

"and sustained work in joy"

>>1228861
Looks like it says "live long and prosper"
Sorry, my Latin is a little rusted.

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>>1228403
I truly wish we'd ended up with Roman ideals of empire instead of wimpy "manifest destiny". We'd actually acquire Latin American territory and probably dominate both continents, be the most resource rich and largest land empire ever. Would have been cool.

>>1228255
Underrated post.

>>1220146
Vitruvius - De architectura

>>1220146
Ammianus Marcellinus. He's considered by scholars one of the finest Roman writers after Tacitus, which is amusing since he's a Greek who managed to learn Latin later on. He writes about the decline of the empire, the civil wars and the reign of his idol emperor Julian the Apostate. Lots of 10/10 depictions of the later Roman army fighting guerilla actions and full on siege warfare against the Persians which he personally took part in.

>>1228403

That's fucking bonkers, the togas would have been ok but latin is impossible to use with a modern vocabulary.

How do you say 'train', 'pencil', 'telephone' or 'internet' in latin?

Might as well give plummed helmets to soldiers

>>1229769

>How do you say 'train', 'pencil', 'telephone' or 'internet' in latin?

You invent them. That's what languages do.

Reminder that vikings sacked rome :)

Norse power!

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>>1229807

>>1229807

Fus roh daaah XD

>>1229807
Well after all the other Germanic raped it. Seriously Vikings for sloppy seconds of Europe after every other tribe ostensibly did what they did but without boats.

>>1228403
That sounds like bullshit.

>>1228070
That painting was done long after the roman conception of pale = barbarian died out. In fact, in the 19th and early 20th century there was a lot of racial pseudoscience trying to prove that the ancient Romans and Greeks were actually teutonic Germans.

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I watched a documentary on BBC last week that said Christendom is the successor state of Rome

Hit me pretty hard and I agree

>>1217822
SALVE
A
L
V
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>>1228255
you dropped the music anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW3u3zaj6eQ

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how much does it have to suck to be the one poor asshole that gets an outdated Monterfortino when everyone else has a cool Galea?

>>1232453
>oval scutum
>1st century

Triggered.

>>1232559

They're using spears and are blond haired, guess what they are.

>>1232571
judging by the shirtless aholes on the chariots, Britannia

Reminder that Sulla killed the Republic and Cato is a god

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>>1232616
>Cato
the elder?

So besides pederasty did ancient Romans ever write anything on fetishes?

>>1232623
both really

the Younger was the Republics last hope against despotic dictatorship

>>1232571
Oh auxiliaries, duh.

>>1232627
Pederasty wasn't a fetish, it was just an established part of ancient custom.

>>1232627
Some liked traps it seems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeHG_9qg2uU

I am sure someone wrote something about some from of sexual deviancy. Considering that we are missing 7 of the 9 parts from something as important as the Trojan epic, I think some of the writings on ballbusting fem-dom may have gotten lost, among others.

>>1232638
I realize, but certainly some pedos were able to indulge beyond just a mentor relationship.

>>1232649
True, but we have archeological remains of lots of brothels. Plus, epic graffiti. Just wondering if any of that stuff elucidated Roman proclivities. Side point, notes on Celtic marriage practices.

>>1232649

Do you think they ever had the unfamous "50 tiny blonde girls raped to death by trained babboons" happen?

>>1231154
You say that like they couldn't have looked as fare or pale as Germans. I'm blonde blue eyed and from south Italy. I know a lot of people that look like me.

>>1227834
Trimalchio was a former slave, and yet he was the fattest bastard in the Satyricon

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>>1232453

>>1232627
sadly lost to time
Lives of Famous Whores - Suetonius

>>1232948
He was also a fictional character designed to take the piss out of the nouveau riche freedmen that Petronius and his socio-economic class found to be vulgar, laughable retards.

>>1216128
Sulla sucks slave cocks
t. Marius

>>1233258
>Lives of Famous Whores - Suetonius
anon plz, i can only get so erect

>>1227262
The Eastern part became largely Christian and survived, also notice how only Christianity survived the collapse.
Greco-Roman paganism died when the west fell, the east realized the ideals of paganism were insufficient to that of Empire.
Christianity is the keystone of administrative power.
Prove me wrong.
Christianity is what gave the West its final golden age before its fall.
Read some Gibbon.

>>1216214

delet this

>>1216214
DELETE THIS

>>1216214

DELENDA EST

>>1219249
Seems pretty comfy.

>>1234589
Nigger the West was just as Christian as the east was. The last followers of old paganism were in ERE territory on the Mani peninsular.

>>1216532
get back in formation ya drunken fool

>>1230733
Top meme

>>1216299
>implying archers should be anything other than worthless auxilliries

>>1217552
THIS

>>1218645
Yes there was to some extent I believe can't remember their names

>>1216130
>breaking formation
FLOG THAT MAN

>>1232759
couldn't one argue that those genes only arrived in Italy after Germanic peoples did?

>>1222440
a significant number of people thought britain was a myth until Caesar landed there

>>1225718
Reminder that Mehmet was a direct descendant of Roman royalty and therefore the true successor

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>>1219303
Misses the bitchin' beard.

>>1226748
>muffled Ride of the Rohirrim plays in the background

>>1238742
>blood
>ever meaning shit in an empire where the ruling dynasty had at best a 20 year turnover rate and individual emperors were lucky to survive a decade

>>1238742

>Roman
>Royalty

>>1238941
either way he was the rightful successor since he held the throne and controlled the majority of former roman territory

>>1238952
The only way to determine succession is linguistically. So Italy and Romania, in this order.

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romans were huge technologycucks
daily reminder that the Uncivilised Germanic tribes were superior to the stupid domesticated Romans
The Industrial Revolution and Technology has been a disaster for the human race

>>1238997
Meme overload.

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>>1239005
>he hasn't read industrial society and it's future


kill yourself

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>>1239014
#Tedwasright

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>>1239014
Do you enjoy memes this much?

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>>1239025
my nigga

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>>1239034
:-DDD

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>>1239033
I'm not "memeing" I'm serious, Ted Kaczynski was completely right and the only good way of living is living like

1. hunter gatherers

or

2. Germanic, Gallic, and Celtic Tribal level technology.
No joke.

>>1239038
Who's stopping you?

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>>1239038
k den

>>1239044
The kikes obvs.

>>1239049
How?

>>1239051
Through their schemes.

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>>1239054
Explain in detail what their schemes are

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>>1239038
Get off the computer you hypocritical luddite.

>>1239059
The use the media to brainwash people into being good goys and use their Jew sorcery to financially ruin anyone who is a threat them.

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>>1239044
>>1239066
I'm saving up to buy some land in my country and to move and live there.


>>1239045
I am fine with africans living in huts like that. It's good. Stop assuming that I'm a stormfag. I'm for racial purity and anti immigration but africans and other races that live primitively are good.

>>1239038

Go squat in the forest and shit on your hand, the rest of humanity will be just fine colonizing other planets

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>>1239068
OK. So presumably they'd be just fine with a redpilled gentleman like you living off in the woods hunting deer. Why don't you?

>>1239077
No because people would be inspired by my example and they cannot allow that. David Koresh found that out the hard way.

>>1239081
I like you anon. Wanna have sex?

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>>1239075
Oil is going to run out and we will face an economic collapse. Stop being deluded and thinking humanity will travel the stars, the modern industrial system will collapse like the Roman Empire.


"The most central and irrational faith among people is the faith in technology and economical growth. Its priests believe until their death that material prosperity bring enjoyment and happiness - even though all the proofs in history have shown that only lack and attempt cause a life worth living, that the material prosperity doesn't bring anything else than despair. These priests believe in technology still when they choke in their gas masks."

>>1239086
stay away from my benis homo :-DDD

>>1239096
I was totally gonna fuck you but you just ignore me., That hurts you know, I thought we had something?

>>1239100
I'm a grill

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>>1239096
I am not this guy:

>>1239049
>>1239054
>>1239068
>>1239081

>>1239107
meant to respond to

>>1239102

>>1239109
>>1239107

OK, do you want into sex avec moi?

>>1239105
then post em or gtfo

>>1239112
Do you think this is /b/ or something?

>>1239115
no i am a scholarly historian searching for evidence of your claims

>>1239111
I repeat, I am not


>>1239049
>>1239054
>>1239068
>>1239081

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>this thread right now
I'm glad the limit will end it.

>>1239096

Even as it fell the achievements and progress of the empire endured and gave birth to new ages of thought, industry and expansion. Guided by institutions of law and government, paved and laid upon by idle handled simpletons like you. Your kind are the most hedonist and materialist of all for you want nothing done out of you ephemeral spec of a life.

A collapse is a minor setback, a soul given up is a greater defeat.

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>>1239216
Law, Government, Industry, etc, are detrimental to humanity.


Read industrial society and it's future.
"my kind" are not hedonist and materialist. The romans were hedonistic.
Tribal, Pagan societies value nature friendship and comradarie and your tribe (friends, family, yourself) above all else.
This differs to the Romancucks.
The Roman empire collapsed, and so shall our society. We will be reduced to the Dark ages, which is good. The dark ages were only called the Dark ages because the Christians and Romans were upset that the empire reverted back to nature.

>>1239392

>Law, Government, Industry, etc, are detrimental to humanity.

there's no humanity without the social group, and the social group is naught but a band of marauders without a common oath to moral beliefs, due process and public order, without the guarantees and tranquility of civilization.

how can a savage like you ever hope to lecture anyone about humanity?

I literally know nothing about Rome. Does anyone have any good documentaries about rome?

>>1239038
>the only good way of living
dying at the age of 20 sure seems like a good way
memers like you live hard and die young

>>1239392
>Tribal, Pagan societies value nature friendship and comradarie and your tribe (friends, family, yourself) above all else.
let's see
>value nature
where did all the forests go ?
see dartmoor for example
>comradarie
that's why they frequently killed each other right ?
fuck they even killed arminius
>and your tribe
except when parts of it disagree with you

>The dark ages were only called the Dark ages because the Christians and Romans were upset that the empire reverted back to nature.
pls be joking
>>1239460
podcast history of rome

>>1239444
Tribal peoples are not "warlike". They engage in ritualistic warfare, which is warfare that has specific routines and rules which they follow. This has a very low mortality rate. Compared to Warfare of more advanced peoples, tribal peoples are very peaceful. And warfare is natural to all human beings. There is no tranquillity in civilisation, more civilised people just kill less civilised people.

Call me a "savage", you will be disproved when you read "Industrial society and its future". Read it you pleb.
>>1239551
Tribal peoples die at their mid 60's to early 70's. That is the natural age to die. Any longer and your mind degenerates and there are conditions such as alzheimers

Please educate yourself.

>>1239621
>Tribal peoples die at their mid 60's to early 70's.
citation pls

>>1239599
>value nature

They practiced slash and burn, but climate changed and then caused it to become a moor. If climate did not change, then the forest would have grown back. and cherrypick one example when 70% of England was primordial forest until the 1600's.


>comradarie


In their tribe. Tribal warfare was common, but they did not frequently kill each other. They practiced ritualistic warfare, here is a good video of papa new guinean tribes practicing it. The process is similar to how the gauls and Germanic tribes fought amongst each other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BzqwOBneC4


>except when parts of it disagree with you


Disagreements where settled by a discussion, and/or fighting, and people rarely died in a fight, unless it was to the death.


And yes, the Dark ages were called "Dark ages" by monks and Scholars after the period, because the Christian Romans got invaded by the pagan tribes. The tribes had more of an appreciation for nature than the Romans, and despised Roman Buildings.

The fuck is this I thought this was a Romaboo thread by a bunch of faggots argue about the morality of the uni bomber. Cicero would be disappoint in you fagz

>>1239623
http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/life-expectancy-myth-and-why-many-ancient-humans-lived-long-077889
>>1239659
Romans were technology loving cunts, just accept it

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>>1239676
from the article
According to historical mortality levels from the Encyclopaedia of Population (2003), average life expectancy for prehistoric humans was estimated at just 20 – 35 years

to be fair the article goes on talking about statistics
but let's say some lived to 70 yrs (argument of the article half of infants died thus 35x2 = 70)
which seems absurdly high even for stoneage standards
I mean would you reuse this logic it'd say Iraq had a life expectancy of 98 in the 1950s which would seem quite unscientific

now excuse me I gotta tend my cabbages

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>>1239749
Read the full article mate.

>>1239759
I did
and it was literally "if 50% dies and some lived to 70 we'd get 35years on average too"
feel free to post a peer reviewed study
till then refuted due to lack of evidence and no logical reasons provided

>>1239776
tribal peoples lived longer lives. find the evidence for yourself, pleb, I have no need for that.