Hinduism is practiced by a lot of people, but they are all primarily

but it did in SE Asia.

>>1105859
Because it was a caste system who forbid you over cows from having a relatively decent nutrition and forced you to bathe in a corpse-ridden river?

>>1105859
It's a cultural religion, not a theological on like the Abrahamic faith.

>>1105865
Yes but most of those countries have been Islamized/Christianized.

>>1105859
I don't know anything about Hinduism, since you made this thread why don't you tell me what you think, OP. Here's your chance.

They don't proselytize like the Christians and muslims. Part of it I think is the universalist perspective, where every religion has its purpose in a person's life. Compare to the abrahamic one where they have The Truth and everyone else is deceived by satan.

>>1105859
polytheistic beliefs don't spread as well as monotheistic/nontheistic beliefs because people will just start worshipping whatever gods they want and that way it will not be a "religion"

>>1105866
>>1105868
>>>/v/

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>>1105859
>Why didn't Hinduism manage to touch the world the way Buddhism, Islam and Christianity have?
it does. Hinduism is buddhism+hedonism, aka budhism for most people.

>>1105859
>biggest temple is outside the subcontinent
>ayyuthaya is literally ayodha.

>>1105859
Polytheist = shit at proselytizing.

>>1106051
>Polytheists
>Proselytization
I don't think they even fucking tried.

Few of the major polytheistic trends say "MUH GODS ARE THE ONLY ONE THERE IS"

>>1105859
"Hinduism" isn't a unified faith with a central doctrine or creed like Buddhism is

Buddhism is equivalent to a single sect of Hinduism, of which there are thousands

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>>1105859

Some of the other people have made some good points but just to put together a number of points into one post -

1) For a while it actually did spread outwards from India and was common in SE Asia in the Burma/Cambodia/Laos area but these same places later had Buddhism become more popular which to an extent usurped Hinduism as the dominant religion.

2) It was closely interlinked with the Indian caste system and Vedic/Brahamanic culture, the culture reinforced its dominance in India and without successfully transporting the culture to foreign places you couldn't give them the same impetus to follow Hinduism that they would have with the caste system and culture of India.

3) There has never been much of a big focus on proselytizing and spreading Hinduism to foreigners as there has been with Buddhism and the Abrahamic religions.

4) Hinduism encompasses a huge variety of beliefs, teachings and customs. Aside from agreeing on the authority of certain religious texts and on the existence of certain deities many of the different branches of it have little in common. This made it so that there was not a large, single, consistent and unified teaching to be spread, if there had been there probably would have been more of an organized effort across India to facilitate and promote proselytizing in foreign areas.

5) One of the things that is fairly consistent across Hinduism is that all religions are different paths through which humans approach the same goal or tread the same path. Historically there has been a lot of tolerance in Hindu areas for other religions and Hinduism often blend with and incorporates other religions such as how they claimed that Buddha was just an avatar of Vishnu or something along those lines. This has made it so that in areas near India there was little pressure to adopt Hinduism because it often didn't overtly conflict with whatever religion was already practiced.

>>1105859
It doesn't promise eternal life in heaven if you follow it.

>Why didn't Hinduism manage to touch the world the way Buddhism, Islam and Christianity have?

Because its hand was covered in shit

Was Hinduism inspired by psychedelics? Sure seems like it

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>>1105868
>tfw your a muslim but talk with hindu friends
>tfw retards who have no knowledege on hinduism try to speak as if they know even a hint about it
Let me guess, an American?

>>1106021
Hinduism came way before Buddhism though

>>1106095
neither does Buddhism

>>1106090
many Hindus consider Buddhism to be a Hindu sect

akin to how Christians see Protestants

>>1105859
Because drinking cow piss is nasty.

>>1105859
>Why didn't Hinduism manage to touch the world the way Buddhism, Islam and Christianity have?
Because Hindus aren't actively interested in propagandizing the belief that only their religion allows people to be "saved."

Other paths are viable.

They know better.

>>1105865
India is the land of the countless gods, South East Asia is the land of the countless religions.

>>1106183
>Because Hindus aren't actively interested in propagandizing the belief that only their religion allows people to be "saved."
no, thy just though all faiths were the same anyways so spreading any single one was irrelevant.

and beyond that there was no such thing as "Hinduism" as we think it today until the Mugfuls and latter the British tried to organize society

bunmpp

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>>1105859
Because it's a religion built on contradictions. Truly a heathen following.

It did in SEA

Hinduism isn't an organized religion, but rather a collection of Indian beliefs that were grouped together by the British colonials and dubbed Hinduism. Because of this and theological reasons, Hinduism never proselytized and spread. Introduction into Hinduism was also made difficult by the caste system, something one is born into.

However that doesn't mean there aren't converts. Movements like Hare Krishna bring Hindu ideals to westerners. I myself converted to Hinduism

>>1105859
Hinduism isn't a religion. It's a just lifestyle designed for religious tolerance and unity. This makes more sense when you see the interaction between Vaishnavism, Shaivism, Shaktism, or Smartism. Add to that the religions outside the Vedic Pantheon like Islam, Sikhism, Buddhism, Jainism or Christianity, and you have in India very a complex and varied religious society. To accommodate this, you have the Hindu insight.

I feel some religions spread by sheer political will. As in, not because the religion mandates it but because the people who believe that religion happen to be in an expansionist time and place and are able to accomplish those goals. You might even consider the religion to be an afterthought in some cases.

But also allows a degree of cohesiveness and helps convince foreign people why they should pay you and join you. The catholic church made this into an art form and was able to convince many polytheistic groups to convert and send their money to Rome.

Hinduism did spread, just through the region that that civilization and culture found its niche in. I'm sure certain Hindu ideas started in one place before they spread to the rest of India, merging and evolving with the other cultural ideas present there.

>>1108846
Bold words coming from a Christian.

>>1108892
Which is interesting because in a technical sense, you could be a practicing Christian in India, and some Hindus would consider you Hindu as well.

Some Indians think Jesus Christ as the Reincarnation of Krishna

>>1108892
>Hinduism isn't a religion
it very much is a religion you stupid atheist wanker
its just not a "unified" faith but a shit ton of sects and faiths under one label used by the British for all native Indian faiths besides a select few like Buddhism since it wasn't widely practiced in India when they arrived

>>1105859
ill never understand hindu aesthetics

>>1108939
I love it fantastic representation of the multiplicity of God and the alien beauty of the divine

honestly we can learn a lot from the Hindus to make our faith a living faith.

>>1108935
>its just not a "unified" faith but a shit ton of sects and faiths under one label used by the British for all native Indian faiths besides a select few like Buddhism since it wasn't widely practiced in India when they arrived

So it's not a religion.

>>1108944
>So it's not a religion.
what do you think a religion is?
its this sort of wank that makes stupid white people think Buddhism is just some 12 step life guide and not needing faith.

You have to remember that unlike Christianity and Islam Eastern faiths dont have a time limit of an impending day of judgement breathing down their necks. Likewise they didnt have the instruction in their faith mandating them to go out and convert people

>>1108952
Buddhism is a religion with sects. Hinduism isn't a religion in the technical sense because it doesn't have 'sects' that all nominally adhere to a general belief. If you talk to different Hindus they will mostly have radically different beliefs, practices and traditions that separate them from each other. Hinduism is an essential part of Vedic - now Indian - culture.

It's the same way Paganism isn't a religion, but a word to describe the numerous deities, belief systems and traditions that incorporate the definition of what it is to be a Pagan.

>>1109009
>Hinduism isn't a religion in the technical sense because it doesn't have 'sects'
WHAT
blown away that someone could be so ignorant
what a load of wank, thinking hinduism is just a "cultural" thing and not a faith.

>>1108846
But your entire Biblical canon is itself rife with contradictions, anachronisms, errors, mistakes, and obvious edits/interpolations.

>>1109012
Shut the fuck up you stupid nigger, he's right and you need to read a fucking book for once in your life.

>>1109020
>obvious edits/interpolations.

Thats a myth without foundation in fact.

>>1109012
Explain to me how it is please, I'd rather not just have your constant replies of 'WOW HOW DUMB HAHA!' because it's no better than >>1109030

>>1109030
>>1109033
how about you lot actually learn about Indian culture rather than spouting a load of nonsense

hinduism is nothing but sects upon sects of different beliefs, its highly ritualized and faith plays a major role, its more than just Indian culture but a set codified system of beliefs and practices which have been expanded upon for mellenia.
not to mention there is an entire preistly caste.
the only thing is that it's very decentralized with no central authority, though all the same myths are shared between them.

but if its not a religion than neither is Protestantism.

>>1109037
I'd agree with you if it was a culture besides Hindu but Hinduism simply isn't a religion. A basic knowledge from secondary texts and glossing over the Vedic traditions will support this.

>>1109118
considering you aren't Indian and have barely any knowledge of Hinduism plus a rather flimsy definition of what "religion" is no it would not support it.

>>1109145
>considering you aren't Indian

Actually...

>>1106114
Protestantism is a part of Christianity you stupid fuck.

>>1109032
There is no original Bible, only manuscripts.
There are inumerous textual variances between the manuscripts and no two manuscripts exactly alike.
The sinful woman/throw the first stone story is an interpolation and this is agreed upon by every scholar even Christian "scholars", as there are older manuscripts without it.

Educate yourself you ignorant christard.

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>>1106021
Hmm, I think I see a theme here. Good thing I have good friends and suitable conversation aplenty.

Oh wait

>>1108914
>>1109020
>implying that I'm Christian

>>1106109
stop being dum

>>1105859
But they did. All Indo-European religions, including Norse paganism and the Hellenic religion originate from an early form of Hinduism.

>>1109947
Actually these and Hinduism came from PIE religion.

>>1109947
spotted the indian nationalist

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>>1109165
>Protestantism is a part of Christianity

>>1105859

The caste system is racial.

>>1105877

>every religion has its purpose in a person's life

lol trash

>Compare to the abrahamic one where they have The Truth

Hindus think they're right too, they just meter out righteousness in Karma.

>>1111165
no it isn't

>>1106101

The Aryans were fond of soma.

>>1109947
>implying hinduism isn't PIE religion fused with dravidian beliefs

hint: PIE religion was actually monotheist, with dyeus-phter closely parallel to turko-mongolic tenger etseg (both meaning sky father)

>>1109118

retard

>>1109149

kill yourself

>>1109165

>Protestantism is a part of Christianity

>>1105859
Because it's ridiculous. 330,000,000 gods. Harsh caste system. Designated shitting streets. Holy rivers. Just absurd.

>>1109165
>implying
protestantism is actually a jewish creed, note how with protestantism old testament names suddenly show up

>>1105859

Hinduism is the only pagan religion to not be eliminated by rational modern religions, due to the fact that Hinduism was used by the Indian elite as a ruling structure for a few thousand years. it's caste system became so ingrained into the indian legal, social, and economic system, that Buddhism, Islam, and even European colonialism couldn't stop it.

Which is sad, because it's the religion that needs a rational reformation more than any other religion on earth. Including Islam, which just needs a political reformation (starting with removing Mecca and Medina from the borders of Saudi Arabia and making them an independent region, as well as reducing Saudi influence in war-torn regions that encourage radicalism).

>>1106058

It's been the foundation of their governing system for thousands of years.

They sure did proselytize. By force most likely. but this was all in the pre and early historical periods.

>>1111218
Rationality is a cancer
Islam is incredibly rationalistic which is why it had such outbursts and megalomania

Hinduism is decisively irrational and therefore most fittingly human.

>>1109154

>le meme
>le green text meemee
>le misuing an maymay that's meant to mock atheist neckbeards against a Muslim

lol! good job bro!

Hare Krishna's proselytize a lot
so do Buddhists
both are considered by Hindus as just two of many sects

>>1105859
Because it was an ethnic folk faith and not a universalist culture-independent religion. It's for the same reason that Shinto didn't catch on outside Japan, it has no meaning to those not of the folk it was created in the inextricable context of.

>>1111228
>Islam is incredibly rationalistic

lol

>irrational and therefore most fittingly human

The distinguishing quality of man is reason, it is truly borne none of the lesser animals and rare enough within the human specimen itself.

But a man without reason is certainly less than a man.

>>1111228

Nice bait. By your logic, Europe should be worse than the Middle East.

Rationality evolved in Humans. if it wasn't human, we wouldn't be discussing how wrong you are.

>>1111240
says someone who knows absolutely nothing about Islamic thought
its incredibly rationalistic
if anything the defining triumph of Europe has been its irrationality
only since the cancer of irrationality took over with the French Revolution and all the abuses that came from it have we been sliding down the slope to our ownb demise and ending up just like the Muslims.

read what Dali said on Surrealism as a rejection of rationality following the Great War.
there is a reason he considered himself an Anarcho-Monarchist, being he most irrational and organic form of government he could imagine.

>>1111253
>Rationality evolved in Humans
says who?
rationality is a myth of slaves created to hide the chaotic truth.

its the ideology of ants

>>1111236
India has hundreds of ethnicities and cultures
and Hinduism isn't comparable to Shinto

also Hindu ideas have touched/influenced the entire globe, its the spiritual heartland of humanity.

>>1111165
No it's not dumbfuck

It's spiritual

>>1111205
Because Christianity is ridiculous

3 gods, harsh legal system, pedo priests, holy torture devices, absurd

>>1111270
>someone who knows absolutely nothing about Islamic thought

I used to attend a Muslim club at my old college, I read the Koran, I sat as they prayed.

Fucking nothing rational about it.

>defining triumph of Europe has been its irrationality

goddamn that is retarded

>read what Dali said

lol

>>1108926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tw7LIykvBw

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>>1105859
Some people see a woman with 6 arms, one of them holding a sword then scurry off in a panic. The same person could walk past a statue of fat Buddha chillin' and they want to know more.

>>1111313
you talk about catholic church, which doesn't represent Christianity

>>1111506
>do what you want
>islam

>muh I don't want to believe in allah
>death

>muh I want to change religion
>death

Same with other judeo christian religion, instead of death its eternal hell. Due to political correctness.

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>>1111574
>telling someone that they will go to hell is just as bad as murdering someone

>>1111616
It was murder before. They changed it to "go to hell" due to political correctness.

>>1111621
citation please.

>>1106114
>Akin to how Christians see Protestants
I actually got triggered.

>>1109154
wew lad

>>1109154
deus vult amirite mein brüder? *tips crusader*

The reason it didn't spread I think was what many posters said already, iris an ethnic religion centered on India and its mythical landscape and surroundings (mount Kailash, Sri Lanka, the river Ganges), not unlike Egypt with the Egyptians and Israel with the Jews. The only reason Israel became holy for non-jews was because there appeared a new, universalistic religion of the mongrelized, deracinated masses of the Roman Empire, namely Christianity, which masses don't have a concept of ethnicity and homeland.

>>1111961
Isn't the bible centered around the Roman Empire and the middle east? Abyssinia, Israel, Egypt, Syria, Rome,Palestine, Iraq, all important areas in the Bible.

>>1111991
they used to be
Egypt was central to Christianity and Orthodox tradition echos this connection to the East still.

but with the Muslim takeover of Christianity's heartland it really broke away in the West and became a European thing.

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>>1109154
>>>/pol/

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>>1111357
10/10 was gonna post this. beat me to it.

>>1111270
>>if anything the defining triumph of Europe has been its irrationality
>only since the cancer of irrationality took over with the French Revolution and all the abuses that came from it have we been sliding down the slope to our ownb demise and ending up just like the Muslims.

wow so much ignorance. If anything, the enlightenment is about the praise of the rationality to explain the society and nature.

>>1105859
It actually did spread quite a bit to Southeast Asia, but other religions supplanted it in most places such as different Buddhism sects and Islam.

>>1113618
This was primarily because of the Chola Invasions and subsequent tamil stranglehold on the maritime trade that caused the SE asians to move away from the indic sphere.

>>1108865
>Hare Krishna bring Hindu ideals to westerners.

Hare Krishna is barely Hindu/Indic.

>>1111635
Inquisition. Also the Bible. Death is the answer to apostasy in Bible.

>>1114319

then what is it?

>>1105859
Hinduism was a pretty old religion like Judaism. When Christ came along he basically updated Judaism to be more accessible to people, saying salvation was in your hands now.

Buddha did the same thing with Hinduism. Where most people felt enlightenment was only given by God after millions of lives and living as an ascetic.

Buddha basically said it was possible in this life if you can only realize your nature now.

>>1111218
>Which is sad, because it's the religion that needs a rational reformation more than any other religion on earth

why?

>>1114677
A cult for heroine addicts and hippies

>>1108865
IsKon is basically a hive for drug addicts. They chant like there is some spiritual meaning in what they do but they are actually just getting high all day.
Thats what my uncle told me, he lives in delhi.

>>1114677
>>1114690

Complete faith/devotion to a single supreme god, active proselytising etc reeks too much of abrahamic religions to me. Feels like entire cult is organised to get white converts who are familiar with Christianity.

>>1114677
Devotionalist literal pleb garbage.

Daily reminder that true, patrician Hinduism is either Aescetic or Brahmanic. Devotion is for housewives who can't achieve liberation through priesthood or monkhood.

>>1111205
I see a lot of blame over the caste system being practiced across Hindu culture. As if all the monotheistic religions have a society where the king and peasants and slaves sat on the same table fondling each other's balls. Every culture had and still has caste system embedded in them. Just giving it a fancy name like upper class middle class poor class won't change the fact. Vedic folks just coined the term out loud instead of being pussy about it. Don't add caste as a "variable" to the religion equation, its a "constant" to culture equation.

>>1116586
A literal peasant could become Roman Emperor with some hard work and a little luck.
Are there instances where a shudra rose to become even a brahmin, let alone a raja?

Only Islam and Christianity are interested in Proselytizing. Most other religions of the world have been ethnocentric, philosophical, or esoteric.

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Alan Watts makes the argument that Buddhism is a portable form of Hinduism since its roots are from Hinduism.

>>1116818
While there is nothing intrinsically wrong with buddhist practice from an esoteric perspective, the very community that keeps it alive is, in practice, the antithesis of its goals.

The only advantage that vadjrayana or chan schools have over the kaula and tantric practices within kashmiri shaivism they came directly from is that they are well documented and still in practice with a lineage. Otherwise buddhism is just as bad as everything else organized and ostensibly monolithic and rife with the same issues.

>>1109009
Pagans are about as similar to each other as christians, Muslims and Jews are. Or would you agree that all three are basically the same thing?

But it has, it's called gnosticism, new age and occultism.

It isn't as widespread as monotheism because monotheism is the truth, whereas Hinduism is paganism. They worship demons and fallen angels, whereas Christians worship God.

>>1117169
I know what I'm doing here christcuck.

>>1106090
tolerant hindus my ass, a few muslims are accused of killing a cow and you guys hang him without even a fair trial.

https://youtu.be/AvFl6UBZLv4
You guys might find this interesting

>>1116631
Chandragupta Maurya
Nair Kings of Kerala
Valmiki
Kalidasa

Off the top of my head.

>>1117666
Wir müssen die Moslem ausrotten

Any reading suggestions for expanding ones knowledge on Buddhism and Hinduism?

>>1116586
>>I see a lot of blame over the caste
only because liberals and libertarians are in power. once these people are dead, you will see less retardation on Earth.

You think that because you live in the west
It's one of the largest religion in the world

>>1105874
I'ts a religion dedicated to letting tyrone fuck your girl

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>>1111218
>Hinduism is the only pagan religion to not be eliminated by rational modern religions
>only pagan religion
Shinto?
Chinese Folk Religion?
The Autists in Central Asia that keep to Tengriism?

Just because East Asians aren't cuck enough to let their whole lives dictated by their religions doesn't mean theirs is dead.

>>1111515
they claim that they do

>>1105859
Hinduism isn't really a universal religion, it's really only suited to Indians with their caste system.

>>1118515
>Thinking Castes are same as Varnas
>Implying Varna System is limited to India

>>1117076
I don't get what you're trying to say.

>>1117835
Read mahabharat for hinduism

>>1116631
Examples?

>>1120734
Not him, but Justinian is one of the most well known examples. Probably why Procopius didn't like him, too.

>>1106103
Poo in loo

>>1106109
actually buddhism came from the shramana movement. Hinduism was heavily influenced by it, to the point where it greatly differs from it's ancient form (vedic sacrificial religion).

>>1105859
basically what happens is that Hinduism isnt technicalyy a religion. it just started as a form of society with the central feature of dharma and karma. from it rose other religions like jainism, buddhisim, sikism. the religions that didnt get much of a following became cults most famous of which are vaisnavism and shaivism. all these are in some aspects similar yet their core values are different. hinduism in this light is irreligious and no one can 'convert' to it as the idea of conversion escapes if something isnt properly defined. what you can do is just appeal to the logic of the other person but his generally dosent happen when faced by conversions of the sword.
the idea of converting has started in hinduism in 1800 by the arya samaj.

Which is/was the most 'warlike' Hindu tradition/denomination?

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>>1105859
>>1105859
FUCK HINDOUISM
Its a Dravidian-dump version of the original Vedic-Aryan early-bronze period religion, practiced by those who destroyed the indus civilization.