>embargo a country which is in a middle of a regional war

>invade a country that's friendly to America
>be surprised when they place economic sanctions on you
>chimp out and bomb Pearl Harbor

Why were Japanese so dumb?

implying we weren't forcing them too attack us

>>1056387
>because you want to feel like World Police

America was still heavily isolationist.

>>1056415
USA was blockading the shit out of Japan since forever. The Japanese were sure that:
>USA would blockade them into thirdworldliness
>USA wanted to war them into submission
So they reacted to that.

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>>1056387
>I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY DON'T YOU JUST ALLOW JAPAN TO ATTACK YOUR SHIPS IN CHINA AND ALLOW THEM TO WAGE A WAR OF AGGRESSION AND ASIA

>>1056440
>USA was blockading the shit out of Japan since forever

Are you some kind of ultra weeb or what? The US imposed economic sanctions on Japan BEFORE the war for Japan doing dumb shit that went counter to America's interests and began a blockade AFTER the war when the IJN had been completely rendered ineffective.

It's not that hard of a concept and you're not being edgy or eye-opening for pushing a contrarian viewpoint held only by 80 year old Japanese politicians/yakuza and 20 year old white weeaboos who need to find some way to impress Japanese girls. Go kill yourself you worthless fuck.

>>1056387
>Because America wants to feel like world police

Actually it was because FDR and his cabinet wanted in on the war but none of the Axis powers were dumb enough to declare war on the US outright and the American public had no interest in another war.

With the embargo, they knew Japan would retaliate.

>>1056440
Why was the US morally obligated to sell their raw materials to bunch of rapists, fascists and antagonistic Japs? Who directly opposed them at every turn diplomatically, politically and economically.

>>1056387
Pretty sure the high command in America knew they would retaliate due to the oil embargo. Japans options were pretty much give up, start a war or just wait as their oil based navy became useless. Only thing suprising about the attack was it happened sooner than expected.

>75 years after the last shot is fired
>still taking sides and assigning blame

>>1056387
Shit started long before that, Americans opposed the 1919 racial equality proposal, americans literally alienated themselves from Japan (and most europe) because a white american mutt would not even consider a nip anything more than a subhuman.

>>1056440

First off, an embargo is not a blockade. There were 0 American warships disrupting Japanese trade. They simply refused to sell oil and got the Dutch (who at the time controlled Indonesia) to hop on that boat.

Secondly, the embargo started in August of 1941, it wasn't "forever" it was less than 6 months before the Japanese retaliated with violence.

>>1056387
What a minute, you're not supposed to bomb your enemies until they quit?

>>1056387
>embargo a country which commits atrocities
>they strike because they think they're strong
>destroy them completely without much sweat
>open 4chan in internet browser
>"arrrr america dumb!! samurai power!! gibe back sacred yamato cray!!!"

>>1056415
because they were decedents of rice niggers with swords.

>>1056467
>or just wait as their oil based navy became useless
They attacked because they couldn't sustain their war in China without oil.