how is it possible for some of you to enjoy NTR? this is a genuine

In b4 the thread devolves into a shit storm, as it ALWAYS does.

im still waiting desu

like to self-insert as the antagonist who steals the girl

>>4397627
I'm a virgin. NTR is the only thing I can fap to.

I love cheating, but hate humiliation. As in, don't get off to humiliation or want anything to do with it. For me, the idea that my wife is so cock-starved that she'll go out of her way to constantly get it is what turns me on. The idea that she's so much of a slut that her love for me gets thrown to the back of her mind at the sight of a big enough dick just does it for me.

>>4397627
I like seeing the stereotypical self-insert beta get cucked.

Xenophilia.

>>4397627

Those who ascribe to NTR have a deep sickness rooted in the suffering of others. A twisted mind who's only sulcus of compassion lay withing a deep complex of demented wants and desires. Where a healthy mind would give their blessing to those that have found happiness, NTR wishes to destroy that. To revel in the destruction of another's happiness, to urn for the demise of that which is pure, to scorn others success; that is school of thought which identifies NTR.

I love NTR due to my inherent narcissism and self-loathing, I find it impossible to be the subject of my own sexual fantasies, instead seating myself in a passive role as an observer to a genuine sexual relationship. It is a form of sexual masochism and a form of self-flagellation in which I find release by punishing my own sexual inferiority through the vehicle of NTR.

tl:dr I'm an emotional masochist

closet bisexual

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>>4397702

This might be related.

I have a small weewee and watching girls take on a humongous, fat veiny cock after being used to a tiny pecker is always fun.

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>>4397627

For the moral degradation. Porn involving chicks going from fairly innocent virgins into cock hungry whores is rare outside of NTR.

Pic related. That one makes me diamonds as well.

I don't like or dislike it. I don't feel the cuck. it's some guy's stealing another guy's wife or w/e, "what's that got to do with me"

>>4397701

Love seeing some self-philosophy here on /h/ m8

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>>4397627
Too many NTR thread at the same time. Fuck off and take a look at the catalog before you start a thread.

I think it's hot

>>4397723
Source?

>>4397639
This and who cares, it's ficction.

>>4397701
>>4397763
You guys are faggot pseuds.

>>4397787
Emergence by ShindoL
It's got a pretty heavy ending though

>>4397627
NTR is a shit-tier fetish. Only real stupid, sick fucks get off on it.
Paedophiles are above them, imho. I'd rather see this board spammed with lolicon than their sick filth.

>>4397819

joke's on you, I'm a lolicon AND a cuck

>>4397627
To me it is the depravity of the situation and fetish itself. Provide me with one of those charts where you can tick off things that turn you on and I will wager it will keep me busy for a while. NTR is is just one of those on the list although it often brings many of the others in its wake, making it a great "starter" to look for. It therefore generally puts it in a more mild /d/ than /h/ category for me.
>>4397819
Please go die in a fire.

>>4397627
I will NEVER enjoy ntr. It's for scum trash and degenerates who are the cancer killing society.

This should be in /d/ where it BELONGS!

>>4397797
Fuck off trash laws won't be around forever.

>>4397867
You first Scum fuck.

>>4397873

> This should be in /d/ where it BELONGS!

NTR has nothing to do with dickgirls or cuntboys, though.

>>4397627
I like certain forms of ntr. If I feel the character getting cucked deserves it then I'm fine.

I self-insert as the girl.

I've always enjoyed getting off to NTR material on occasion, and ever since I first saw an NTR/cuck thread and was presented with the idea that simply enjoying it at any level actually made you a cuck, I've done some serious self reflection and tried to figure out why I feel this way. The first thing I thought of was to identify what specific parts of the generalized 'NTR' fetish appealed to me. The thought of my gf being intimate with another person while we are together is pretty repulsive, and I have no desire to ever intermix that aspect of fantasy with reality. When I get off to anything NTR related, I have found that what really 'does it' for me is thinking about the girl, specifically how she inevitably succumbs to her lust and chooses the immediate pleasure of getting fucked over the entire relationship history with the cuck. The idea of something feeling THAT good to a girl, as well as the alpha/domination status of the person doing the cucking, is what gets me off. Part of the reason behind this is probably because at one point in my life I was actually in the position of the cuck-er if you will, and repeatedly fucked my female friend while she was in a relationship with another guy (sometimes just one room over in the same house).

I think it's pretty obvious that NTR can be enjoyed without having to actually want to be in the shoes of the person getting NTR'd, I personally dont understand the desire to be emotionally devastated in that way but reading >>4397701 actually helped me understand that mindset a little bit more.

>>4398703
Your sick and in need of help.

>>4398747

and you're a fag and need to get the fuck off but I agree that alpha chad guy needs to piss off to a club or something

I'm personally a huge fan of corruption. NTR is nice because it involves the idea of someone betraying the thing they love most just for the gratification of the sex. It shows the milestone at which the corruption shows itself.

I feel like I'm unique though, because no one else ever gives this same explanation. I don't give a fuck about inserting as anyone; I just care about the idea that someone can be corrupted to the point where they're willing to destroy their own personal relationships because.

>>4398992
It's kinda similar for me, but wouldn't really call it corruption(since corruption implies a gradual process and NTR doesn't have to be one).

The whole taboo aspect and doing things that feel good even though they are morally bad and potentially dangerous is a huge fetish for me.

>>4397627
I'm often torn because usually the art is super sexy, but NTR is trash.

>>4397664
Surely this is not possible, don't virgins get butt hurtz from the maiden getting stolen?

>>4400666
Also not saying to check that man's dubs but he has a well worded argument and repeating digits

>>4398673
same desu
I've noticed people tend to get really upset when I say this outside of /h/

>>4400666
Thats exactly why though.
I can self insert easily because a new pure virgin gf gets stolen from me every day in real life.

Anyone else here really like it for the mindbreak aspect of it? It's not so much that for example, the MCs mom is fucked into submission by an arrogant shota that turns me on, but that being fucked into an obedient cockslave by a shota is really slutty and degrading and *that* turns me on.

Just as a tangent, I think it links to an underlying degradation fetish I have. Like I also really enjoy stories of younger better looking girls stealing older men from their frumpy wives.

ALRIGHT FUCKFACES HERE'S THE BE-ALL-END-ALL LOWDOWN ON NTR BROUGHT TO YOU BY SOME OVERLY AGGRESSIVE LITERAL WHO. SPONSORED BY FAKKU AND BAD DRAGON

LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND NTR ASSUME ITS POPULARITY IS DIRECTLY CORRELATED TO ONE SPECIFIC KIND OF KEKOLDRY WHERE THE STORY IS PRESENTED AS ONE MAN STEALING ANOTHER MAN'S GIRL AWAY FROM HIM (USUALLY INCLUDING SOME ASPECT OF GIRLFRIEND-STEALER FUCKING GIRLFRIEND IN FRONT OF THE BOYFRIEND). [SEE ALSO: BLACKED DOT COM, "PREP THE BULL", THE RISE OF KEK AS AN INSULT] HOWEVER, AS ALLUDED TO EARLIER, THIS IS ONLY ONE EXPOSITION OF NTR AS A SEXUAL CONCEPT.

KEEP IN MIND THAT KEKOLDRY/NTR, WHILE PRIMARILY PORTRAYED AS A MALE FETISH, ALSO HAS A FEMALE VARIANT KNOWN AS KEKQUEANING, WITH ALL THE SAME SUBDIVISIONS AND POSSIBLE PLOTLINES. LET'S EXPLORE THE FULL SET OF THE AFOREMENTIONED SUBDIVISIONS.

FIRST OFF, SOME DEFINITIONS:

SO1: THE SIGNIFICANT OTHER DOING THE CHEATING/BEING STOLEN AWAY/ETC

SO2: THE SIGNIFICANT OTHER BEING LEFT BEHIND BY SO1

OUTSIDER: PERSON OR PEOPLE WITH WHOM SO1 IS CHEATING ON SO2. THIRD PARTY TO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SO1 AND SO2; CLOSENESS OF INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIP TO EITHER IS DETERMINED ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

"GOOD END": SO1 AND SO2 END UP BACK TOGETHER TOGETHER

"BAD END": SO1 LEAVES SO2 PERMANENTLY FOR OUTSIDER.

"TRIANGLE END": SO2 AND OUTSIDER END UP IN SEPARATE, INDEPENDENT RELATIONSHIPS WITH S01 (UNWITTINGLY OR NOT) AND A NEW THREE-BODY RELATIONSHIP EQUILBRIUM IS REACHED

HESITATION CLAUSE: SO1 MAY INITIALLY HAVE HESITATIONS BUT A GOOD HARD FUCKING QUICKLY CHANGES THEIR MIND.

HUMILATION AXIOM: IF CHEATING/NTR IS NON-CONSENSUAL, THERE WILL BE A REVEAL OF VARIABLE DEGREE (THAT IS TO SAY, CAN BE A CONFESSION TO SO2 BY SO1, OR A PRIVATE EPIPHANY REACHED INDEPENDENTLY BY SO2, OR A CLIMACTIC, HIGH-DRAMA DISCOVERY SUCH AS SO2 COMING HOME TO FIND SO1 AND OUTSIDER FUCKING IN THEIR OWN BED, AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN) AT/NEAR THE END WHICH RESULTS IN ABJECT HUMILATION OF SO2.


1/?

>>4401654

CONTINUED 2/?

POSSIBLE PLOTS

1. OUTSIDER STEALS SO1 FROM SO2. SO2 MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF SAID THEFT AND WHEN IT STARTED. HESITATION CLAUSE AND HUMILIATION AXIOM APPLY. "BAD END" ALMOST GUARANTEED

2. SO2 WILLINGLY GIVES/LOANS SO1 TO OUTSIDER FOR PURELY SEXUAL PURPOSES. HESITATION CLAUSE APPLIES. SMALL CHANCE OF "GOOD END"

3. SO1 EXERCISES THEIR PERSONAL AGENCY TO WILLINGLY CHEAT ON SO2 WITH OUTSIDER FOR <REASON>. OUTSIDER MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR ROLE IN SAID CHEATING. HESITATION CLAUSE SOMETIMES APPLIES. HUMILIATION AXIOM APPLIES. HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF "BAD END"

READER SELF-INSERT ANALYSIS
N.B: ALL COMMENTS ABOUT LEVELS OF SELF-ESTEEM ARE PURELY IN TERMS OF INSERTING AS A CHARACTER IN THE STORY AND ARE NOT NECESSARILY REFLECTIVE OF THE READER'S ACTUAL SELF-ESTEEM LEVELS.

SO1

1) RARE. UNCLEAR IMPLICATIONS. POSSIBLE SEXUAL SUBMISSIVENESS ON THE PART OF THE READER. STEREOTYPICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH "LONELY/NEGLECTED HOUSEWIFE" ROMANCE NOVEL TROPE. GENERALLY CORRELATED WITH HIGH LEVELS OF SELF-ESTEEM.

2) COMMONLY ASSOCIATED WITH "OPEN RELATIONSHIPS". MAY INDICATE READER'S DESIRE FOR SWINGING. IF RECIPROCATED. SEE ALSO: "FREE LOVE". GENERALLY CORRELATED WITH LOW LEVELS OF SELF-ESTEEM.

3) STRONG INDICATOR OF READER'S SEXUAL INDEPENDENCE. ABOVE-AVERAGE LIKELIHOOD OF SADISTIC TENDENCIES, ESPECIALLY WITH "BAD END". GENERALLY ASSOCIATED WITH HIGH LEVELS OF SELF-ESTEEM

>>4401656

FINISHING 3/3

SO2

1) STEREOTYPICAL NTR ENTHTUSIAST. HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF SEXUAL MEEKNESS. VERY PROMINENT HUMILIATION KINK. GENERALLY CORRELATED WITH LOW LEVELS OF SELF-ESTEEM.

2) STEREOTYPICAL """""KEK"""""; TRADITIONAL KEKOLDRY ENTHUSIAST. SPLIT ROUGHLY EVENLY BETWEEN TWO GROUPS OF PEOPLE: A) THOSE WHO ARE EXCITED BY THE BROAD CONCEPT OF SHARING THEIR S.O. AND B) THOSE WHO STRICTLY GET OFF WATCHING OR THINKING ABOUT THE SEX ACT. GENERALLY CORRELATED WITH LOW LEVELS OF SELF-ESTEEM.

3) SIMILAR TO SO2(2) BUT WITH LOWER LEVELS OF SELF-ESTEEM (IN MOST CASES, THIS IS THE ENTIRE DRAW: EG., "MY S.O. IS MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN ME/I CAN'T FULFILL THEIR SEXUAL NEEDS BECAUSE <REASON> SO WE DECIDED IT'S ACTUALLY FOR THE BEST.THAT THEY REGULARLY FUCK OTHER PEOPLE) HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF SEXUAL SUBMISSIVENESS. HUMILIATION KINK LESS PROMINENT THAN IN SO2(1) BUT STILL SIGNIFICANT.

OUTSIDER

1) HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF SEXUAL DOMINANCE/"TYPE-A" PERSONALITY. VERY HIGH LEVELS OF SELF-ESTEEM. POSSIBLE SADISTIC TENDENCIES. SEE ALSO: CHAD

2) NEUTRAL/UNCLEAR IMPLICATIONS DUE TO LOW PROMINENCE IN CORE STORYLINE. LEVELS OF SELF-ESTEEM ARE DETERMINED ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. POSSIBLE SWINGER KINK.

3) IMPLICATIONS ARE SOLELY COMMENSURATE WITH PLOT DETAILS BUT ARE MOST STRONGLY CORRELATED WITH THE CLOSENESS OF OUTSIDER'S RELATIONSHIP TO SO2. ANECDOTALLY LIKELY TO BE MORE ALPHA/HAVE COMPARATIVELY HIGHER LEVELS OF SELF-ESTEEM (THAN SO2)

SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE TO THIS FETISH AND WHILE THE ANALYSIS FOR SO2 MATCHES UP PRETTY WELL WITH THE WHOLE "MY WIFE'S SON" SHEBANG, KEEP IN MIND THAT IT ONLY REPRESENTS 1/3 OF ALL POSSIBILITIES LAID OUT THUS FAR.

CHANCES ARE YOU JUST HAD A KNEE-JERK REACTION TO NTR/KEKOLDRY AS A CONCEPT AND DIDN'T REALLY GIVE IT A FAIR SHAKE. MAYBE YOU REALLY DIG THE THOUGHT OF SELF-INSERTING IN ONE OF THE WAYS I MENTIONED. MAYBE ALL OF THIS JUST CONFIRMS HOW SUBHUMAN YOU THINK THE FETISH IS. WHO KNOWS.

HOPE THIS WAS INFORMATIVE.

>>4401662
>HOPE THIS WAS INFORMATIVE.
YES THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>4401654
I don't think any of that even matters. You either like it, or you hate it. The reason doesn't matter why you like or hate it, only that you do. Different people have different reasons for preferring one thing or another. There is no generalization because that won't ever adhere to everyone

>>4401656
>>4401662
Fuck off cuck. Cucks deserve death a slow and painful one. You are scum filth trash and needs to be put in /d/ were it belongs. Pray i never become a mod or owner.

>>4397639
this is the only correct answer

>not inserting as the bull

Cucks need not apply.

>>4397627
Sometimes I dislike/hate the MC and self-insert as the "cucker". Examples of this would be Sword Art Online, Persona 4, and the typical harem mc.

I've cucked people in real life before, but the pleasure wasn't related to my hatred of the guy, but moreso the indecisiveness of the girl and her leading us both on. Fucking her silly and "punishing" her for causing me drama is enjoyable to me. There's a few NTR doujins I've read before that had similar themes and I liked that.

>>4397627

At least it ain't rape, most of the time anyway, I can't understand how someone could get off on that