So I'm planning on moving to the UK at some point to go

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>>4380677

also, this manga kinda has a way with words

Nobody cares enough to bust you.

T H I C K

>>4380677
16 is legal in the UK lol
don't people at university have to learn how to research things?
also - the UK has considerably more extensive surveillance than most of mainland Europe and is part of Five Eyes. They know about this post you've just made, they know about my post and they don't care.
I spent four years of my life at uni on 4chan and a few other hentai sites, just contribute to British society and don't break the law.
t. Englishperson

>>4380677
Also - the UK isn't Australia, please do some more research before committing to your host country.

There isnt any porn censorship, its all opt-in and even if it is enabled you can just ring up and get the block disabled, the banning of porn certain stuff was only the creation of it in the UK, the government doesnt give a shit about what porn you look at.

>>4380677
Where are you from, anon?

The UK is a dead end mate. Not only are they leaving the EU, they're attempting to pass legislation for 10 year prison sentences against copyright infringers. Don't even bother going there for school.

>>4380693
and you can fuck off as well, mate

>>4380692

Yank here.

>>4380693

Well, I have personal reasons for wanting to move to the UK. No matter what happens, I want to go eventually, and the sooner the better.

>>4380686

Research as in me being misinformed about UK surveillance?

>>4380697
Well I hope you bring good genetics with you then!
>>4380700
Yeah maybe that was unfair, when you called out laws "inane... overly moralist" and "pretentious" I took it a little personally - especially since it was coming from what I presumed to be a filthy American pigdog.

So are you guys saying that effectively, the laws about consumers in the UK looking at porn is effectively the same as in the US?

eg. no CP

but otherwise, they wouldn't care as long as no one's being hurt? (eg. all of hentai)

thing is, I remember some article about a UK court case. It was dated back a few years at least, but I think the guy got jailtime for having digital pictures or something "resembling" CP

>>4380706
Well, no one's knocked on my door yet...

Why *must* you come to the UK?

>>4380705
>Well I hope you bring good genetics with you then!

I do intend to marry a cute English girl huhuhu~
Hopefully, I won't disappoint. I'd like to think I'm above average for intelligence at least.

>Yeah maybe that was unfair

sorry, i just meant the porn laws. I had a bad impression of them from what I heard, and I guess I saw it through the filter of the freedom of speech that America at least supposedly espouses

speaking of criticizing America, do you guys think we're insane for letting Trump get this far in the election race?

>>4380706
UK extending the CP laws to cover drawn images due to pressure from child abuse charities/groups. Only one case prosecuted so far.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coroners_and_Justice_Act_2009

>criminalising possession of pornographic non-photographic images depicting under-18s, and of adults where the "predominant impression conveyed" is of a person under the age of 18.[4]

ie, drawn porn of characters who look over 18 but are stated to be younger, and characters who are stated to be over 18 but look younger. So no 1,000 year old vampire lolis.

>>4380712
fugggg

>>4380712
So OPs pic is actually illegal in the UK?

>>4380814
It's for a Jury to decide whether the image "is of such a nature that it must reasonably be assumed to have been produced solely or principally for the purpose of sexual arousal." The answer is probably "yes" although it is unlikely you would be prosecuted for for that particular image. Instead the police would probably give you a caution.

>>4380817
OP here
so I might still need to dodge surveillance?

>>4380822
You'll need to download via Tor on a machine running entirely in RAM from a Live CD if you want to be safe. Also bare in mind that even in the images are not deemed to involve those under 18, you will still be guilty of an offense under The Communications Act 2003 for using Tor to bypass the ISP level porn filters without a valid licence.

Brit here. No one cares. Seriously. You're more likely to be prosecuted for breaching copyright and piracy than the nature of the content itself.

If you really want peace of mind use a proxy, but that's it. All ISP level censorship is either opt in or opt out.

>>4380872

even a free proxy?

>>4380695
>having a photo of that turtle faced fuck

Holy fuck Anons am I triggered.

>>4380685

>16 is legal in the UK lol

The age for porn is 18.

>>4380686

How is the UK not Australia? Drawn images of anything that looks young are banned. Adults that look young are banned. Rape roleplay is banned. Caning is basically banned. The CPS still maintain fisting should be illegal. Female ejaculation is considered obscene. I would go as far as to say the UK is worse than Australia.

>There isnt any porn censorship, its all opt-in and even if it is enabled you can just ring up and get the block disabled, the banning of porn certain stuff was only the creation of it in the UK, the government doesnt give a shit about what porn you look at.

You are mixing up laws. You are correct that the laws involving obscene material like female ejaculation only applies to creation and distribution. However, they are have strongly hinted that non-compliant overseas sites could be blocked as obscene as they expand the law to the internet.

Laws related to extreme pornography and prohibited images of children are banned in both creation and possession.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/anal-sex-young-people-consultation-dcms-government-tories-worried-thatcher-a6980041.html

Frankly the UK government is obsessed with what porn you look at. It took until 2003 to legalize the sale and distribution of hardcore pornography period. It's bad. Very bad.

>>4380706

>but otherwise, they wouldn't care as long as no one's being hurt? (eg. all of hentai)

The CPS are are absolute bastards and don't care. They will throw you in jail for "child pornography" where the child is actually 23. They will go after you for rape pornography where no one is being raped. They will, as in cases such as R. v Brown which they still use as legal precedent to ban even more porn, happily prosecute you for consensual BDSM and charge you with being an accessory you to bodily harm against yourself. They prosecuted people for group homosexual acts up until 1997 for christ's sake. Never give them the benefit of the doubt. Never assume they don't care. It is the worst mistake you can make.

They considered things like "it's legal as long as everyone is of age and consents" to be a "loophole". They claim that people are being hurt because such material leads to actual abuse. They can't prove it does and pretty much every piece of evidence is against them on the matter, but they never gave a shit about the evidence in the first place.

>>4380706

>thing is, I remember some article about a UK court case. It was dated back a few years at least, but I think the guy got jailtime for having digital pictures or something "resembling" CP

There was a guy that got a suspended sentence for 400 manga images. Someone else got fucking jail for a naked Bart Simpson. This is because the judge actually legitimately believes a naked cartoon leads to real child pornography despite literally no evidence even suggesting that is the case.

>sorry, i just meant the porn laws. I had a bad impression of them from what I heard, and I guess I saw it through the filter of the freedom of speech that America at least supposedly espouses

Your impression is correct.

>>4380711

http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/docs/cps_vawg_report_2016.pdf

There have been 2384 prosecutions for the offence of prohibited image of a child (drawn images and young looking adults) since its introduction.

>>4380872

>Brit here. No one cares. Seriously.

This is a mentality I don't get. We know these laws have 44x more prosecutions than initially expected when they were passed. We can see the figures showing thousands of arrests. I can't see how someone can seriously claim no one cares.

>Andrew Holland, 51, was arrested and charged with possessing obscene videos of a woman having sex with a tiger.
>After more than six months on bail, the charge of possession of an extreme pornographic image was dropped in December 2009 when prosecutors realised that the “animal” was a man dressed up in a tiger suit.
>The Crown Prosecution Service said it only recognised that it was a man when the tiger was heard on the soundtrack saying “that’s grrrrrrreat”, like Tony the Tiger from Frosties’ breakfast cereal adverts.

>>4380922
>I can't see how someone can seriously claim no one cares.
Because if you get away with it for long enough, you start to feel that way. I came back by plane from a con with friends who had bought very questionable hentai, had their bags searched and emptied, and not a word was said about the pettanko schoolgirls on the front cover. And yet, on the flip side of the scale, BDSM is apparently illegal now.

>>4380929
>this happened
>this actually happened

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>>4380710
>speaking of criticizing America, do you guys think we're insane for letting Trump get this far in the election race?

I think it's insane that Hilary isn't in prison. Neither are ideal but at least Trump is honest and untainted by politics - in the sense that he lets his mouth run.
In a weird way the Democrats run a much more insidious campaign than Trump does, their horrible way of catching and reinterpreting everything Trump says like some kind of Orwellian Ministry of Truth is heavy-handed and should be apparent to anyone with an IQ <120.
So, he recently made that comment which was basically like: "If Hilary hates guns so much why don't they take her armed retinue away and see how she likes it - she's a hypocrite", but the Democrats turn that around and say: "Ahh Trump is an absolute madman who wants Hilary killed" - it's bullshit, what they should have said is "Hilary wants tighter controls on who can own a gun, everyone sane can still own a gun and she doesn't actually want to destroy the second ammendment"

Trump represents a clumsy antidote to the everyone wrong with western thought and society in the last 10 years or so.

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>>4381789
>should be apparent to anyone with an IQ <120.
That's only ~8% of people
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqtable.aspx

>>4381818
NOTE: This based on the assumption that you failed at what you typed.

IQ <120 means x<120 which means "less than 120". Perhaps you actually did mean that people with an IQ higher than 120 aren't able to understand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Less-than_sign

>>4381819
I did it wrong
I meant "greater than" 120 - you see?

>>4380677
Nobody literally gives a fuck.

>>4381789
>at least Trump is honest
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that fucker wouldn't know honest **anything** if it ripped open his chest and fucked the wound. He's gone bankrupt FOUR TIMES. Including a fucking CASINO. How do you even do that? Casinos are a license to print money, all you have to do is let the games do their thing and let percentages do the rest!

If Trump gets elected I'm going to immediately start hunting for a new country to live in. I don't even care which one so long as English is a language there.

>>4381938
>If Trump gets elected I'm going to immediately start hunting for a new country to live in.
Yeah bro, just like all the people that left the country when Bush and Obama were elected. We will miss you dearly.

>>4380677
Lol you dumbass, i'm in the uk and nobody gives a shit. You can look at all the porn you want.

>>4381938
Do you know how many businesses he has?
Guess.
500+ and four of them failed. You know, for a second I thought I was on /pol/ you ctr shill. Honestly I can't wait for Trump to win in November so all your cuck threads and NTR threads will be gone you fucking blight.

>>4380677
Someone sauce this.

>>4382414
ok ill go fuck myself then

>>4381938
>immediately start hunting for a new country
Thank god, we don't want you here.

It's too bad nobody else wants you either

>>4381938
>only
>four
Thats an amazing record, fuck off. You run 600 business and see how many succeed.

>>4381938
>at least Trump is honest
>conveniently don't quote the second part " - in the sense that he lets his mouth run."

nice jumping to conclusions, also if you have ANY knowledge of business and finance in general you will realize letting a company go bankrupt is just another tactic.

>all you have to do is let the games do their thing and let percentages do the rest!

nice oversimplifications

>>4380677
to OP

nobody cares unless you are a high-profile target, if you have something of interest to the brit government then obviously they will not hesitate to use any means necessary to secure you.

I have imported physical doujins to the UK multiple times.

While the law does consider drawn porn illegal, nobody will care unless you are dabbling heavily in IRL CP.

t. lived in London for 5 years

>>4380677
I jerked off to all sorts of shit at uni. Never even knew there were blocks In place.

you won't get persecuted unless you dabble in legit CP, that's how they get them all, they mention the loli doujins and shit but in reality they are persecuting because of the legit CP they have on their HDD

>>4380677
from what I understand they only upload the "legal" doujins on g.e
while the ones that could get you in trouble are on ex
basically if it's on g.e you're safe.

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why can't the nips just make everything 18 and save us all the fucking trouble

>>4382836

Except where we know there have been cases of people being prosecuted for doujins without any legit CP.

>>4383169
man I really find that hard to believe, every time i've seen a guy that got "arrested for lolis"
always had legit CP in his computer somewhere

>>4383233

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fan-japanese-anime-makes-british-4470102

A jobless fan of Japanese anime has become the first in Britain to be convicted of having illegal pictures of cartoon children.

On the hard drive they found 288 still and 99 moving images - none of which were of real people.
Mr Bennett said: “On two occasions now he’s been a test case. This is a test case because he’s the only person as far as I’m aware who has appeared for possession singly of these sorts of images.”

On issuing the suspended sentence, Judge Tony Briggs warned Hoque that if the images had depicted real people, a jail sentence "measured in years" would have been appropriate.

>>4383242
jesus fucking christ why do I even bother with the internet, it's only a matter of time before laws like this appear everywhere. And I don't even look at loli, I swear governments are just looking for reasons to put people away.

>>4380921
>BDSM is banned
wat

>>4381079
>>4383579

I will try to clarify on this.

Consent was added as a defence to common assault in 2003 so light BDSM is (now) legal to preform. But, as is implied, it's only the light that's legal. Everything else is either illegal or exists in a weird grey area where it's hard to tell what is and is not legal. You cannot consent to actual bodily harm outside of surgery and the like. Deliberately vague laws that can be used to ban almost everything that are used disproportionately against groups the government or society doesn't like that much are a running theme.

However, it is generally not legal to sell recordings of. The following acts are illegal for British producers to sell in the UK: Spanking, Caning, "aggressive" whipping, physical or verbal abuse, physical restraint, humiliation, strangulation, urination, fisting, facesitting, female ejaculation. I believe a caning website was taken down then allowed to be put back up recently, which might indicate some progress forward, but it's still basically a crapshoot for what is and is not legal. I am under the impression that most caning itself is illegal period so I'm not sure how they're not being taken down completely, but like I said, absolute crapshoot. Many of those categories are also illegal to possess period. Goatse for example is still at best a legal grey area in the UK.

So you can do BDSM. Kind of. As long as it's very light, and you don't try to sell it, and you stick to straight mostly vanilla sex just in case. With the caveat that they don't give a fuck if it was all consensual if it violates their arbitrary boundaries. Also don't take pictures period, because even some things are legal to do are illegal to have pictures of, because ???

>>4383243
>I swear governments are just looking for reasons to put people away.

What really scares is the idea that some of them may actually believe what they're doing is right.

It's also curious in that it's hard to tell if by "real people" the judge meant "real children" or "real adults dressed like children" when discussing that case. This is how silly things have gotten.

If there was any doubt as to how these laws really work, just took look at schoolgirl porn. It's illegal to produce porn with under-age roleplay and it's illegal to possess porn where the predominant image is that of a child. So why do people get away with Western schoolgirl porn? Because it's mainstream as fuck and half the prosecurtors and judges themselves probably get off on it. From what I recall they even had to reassure people their sexy schoolgirls would be safe from their moralizing. Hypocritical bastards.

What if youve read loli hentai online but not saved it or anything? Has anyone been prosecuted for that?

>>4383907
they just need to make all forms of drawings protected art
the fact that a drawing can get people arrested in the UK baffles me to no end. I'm glad this shit hasn't happened in the US but I fear that it will reach here eventually anyway. It's a slippery slope, what could be next? Hentai in general?

>>4381938
>Casinos are a license to print money
You're an idiot, though I can to came to /h/ to fap, not to have a discussion about Trump or Casinos. Carry on ignorant

C'est la vie

>>4382862
Just assume and argue that in their world, grade schoolers are 18 because they age physically slower. Of that 12 in their years is 18 in ours.

>>4381938
>troompisbed!!!
>(inserts incident on bankruptcy)
>im moving to another country as long as they speak English!

Underage Bernie supporter confirmed

Kill yourself you retatd nobody fucking cares, move to the congos

>>4383952
asking for a friend are you?

>>4384518
of course he is

>>4380677
>moving to anywhere in Europe while enjoying hentai
There was your first mistake.

>>4383993
>the fact that a drawing can get people arrested in the UK baffles me to no end
Don't get too cosy. You can apparently be prosecuted in the US under Postal Service anti-obscenity laws for importing doujinshi. IIRC one guy avoided jail, but ended on the sex offenders list and received a barring order.

>>4385811
for loli doujins specifically
and yeah i know don't get cosy, i acknowledged that it will probably reach here
slippy slope is a fallacy they said

>>4385812
to clarify I don't look at loli or anything like that, but I genuinely fear that governments won't stop there. They will go full puritan if given the opportunity.

I've been on here and saving images for years and no one's busted down my door yet. While they do crack down on it, like a lot of things on the Internet, they can't really stop as long as you're careful.

Ukfag here, for pretty much everything, only http connections to porn sites are blocked, any HTTPS connection will get you access fine.

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>>4380677
If you're in your 20's and you don't know enough about the Internet to dodge government surveillance... you've been doing it wrong.

Tor is a great pornography service.
Completely amoral as in you can find anything there and not get caught.
Literally not in the governments interest to go after individual Tor users.

>>4380677
Drawn pornography featuring under 18 year olds is only illegal in Wales and England. In Scotland it's fine.

>>4380705
You guys do have awful gun laws though.

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>>4385807
>europe = EU

>>4380677

I'm from the Uk and have no problems watching whatever porn I wish.

I've watched Dakota skye vids for years and the popo have never come-a-knocking.

unless your actively downloading and viewing real life child porn you're fine.

even went through a weird animal-sex stage a few years back and never got into any trouble.

I don't suggest living here. there is a real housing crisis and rent is insane and massive strain on public services because we no longer have the resources to support the population.

Just because we British are tolerant of other people doesn't mean be actually like you. we'll treat you with respect but talk shit about immigrants among ourselves but this is the same everywhere I guess

we literally had to cripple our economy just for the right to stop every man and his dog coming here but if you really do plan on living here best get it done before 2019 and the Brexit take effect.

>>4391177
might as well be
isn't gelbooru still blocked in Switzerland?

>>4380677
Your best bet is to convert to Islam. They won't even care if you rape actually children then.

>>4391206
>Just because we British are tolerant of other people
You literally fucked yourselfs to avoid refugees entering.
>we literally had to cripple our economy just for the right to stop every man and his dog coming here
"tolerant"
>>4391243
Did they really block gelbooru? Cause of loli?

>>4385807
Germany has no problem with porn or hentai.

>>4391509
I think we do fellow kraut. Ich glaube schon.
I heard loli is actually illegal, but nobody seems to care.
As in: Really, nobody seems to care, because there is like maybe one prosecution for it. And that lies a few years back.

>>4381938
We don't want any dumb hosers up where bud so make sure you look elsewhere.
Sorry.

>>4391206
If he's white or east asian and has western values he'll be a benefit to society, better than being outbred by Muslims.

>>4391499
Nah, gelbooru's working fine for me

>>4389068
That's the first I'm hearing of this. Huh. Guess I'm in the right (degenerate) side of Britain.

>>4380919
well i'm currently in the uk and I get my hentai from here. Nobody is going to arrest you if you don't flaunt Lolicon in their faces man. Nobody is going to comb your computer for pomf. we're not scheduled to become a police state for another few years.

>>4389068
cartoons don't have an age though. What if the cartoonist just announces that the character is 24 even though they look 8, would the conviction be overturned?

>>4391959
I just read the article and I stand corrected. When are we to expect a hentai-themed V to arise and fight for our right to sadly fap to loli catgirls.

>>4391961
To the best of my knowledge, both of the following are illegal there (and by extension, probably here too):
- Drawn images of a person stated to be underage
- Drawn images of a person with the appearance of someone underage
The latter is hilariously ill-defined, of course. I presume a jury of peers would have to define the character's apparent age.

>>4380677
No-one is gonna bust you for hentai or porn dude. As long as it isn't kiddy porn you'll be fine.

Also if you're going to come live here, maybe tone down the criticism of our laws before you know wtf you're talking about.

>>4380677
Nobody gives a fuck about it, you've been reading too much 4chan. If you are a genuine peado with loli images as well as real CP then they may use the loli stuff as evidence (and if you are like this I have no sympathy), but really no one gives a shit if it's just hentai. t Britanon.

If you are paranoid there's no reason why you couldn't get around all that shit by using linux and a VPN.

>>4380677
Fuck off we're full

>>4389068
Source?

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>>4380677
I'm in a similar situation myself, only States-wise.

>Be Jerseyfag
>Planning on moving to the East Coast in Florida this coming January (personal reasons and lower house taxes)
>Fully aware of CP laws regarding each state (pic related)
>NOT into loli/shota/any of that shit
>Into big boobs, legs, and cowgirls (only with ears/horns and tails)
>Know that somebody got arrested for CP on his computer in Florida before
>Also know that I run a fairly big risk by browsing on /a/, /e/, and /h/
>Own 3 figures (including a Sonico one) that are (assumed to be) over 18

Am I equally fucked in Florida if I continue to be a buyfag/browse g.e-hentai, or am I safe as long as I don't share too much info with anyone else out of my home?

>>4399086
>commiefornia
>blue
My fucking ass

>>4399086
The stupid map is a big lie. Loli is legal across all of america.

>>4405261
That map gives citations. You don't. So whose statements do you think are more believable?

In other words, you're wrong, because you think federal law is the only law that matters.

>>4380824
/g/ here, stop spewing buzzwords. OP just learn about virtualbox and install ubuntu on it. Then install tor and you are able to do whatever you want. You can also dualboot but that's not recommended if you haven't had experiences with linux

>>4405272
What the fuck is virtualization got to do with it? If anon is doing something illegal online his ISP knows about it, the server he is contacting has his IP and if his machine gets seized forensics aren't too thick to check for a virtual disk. Even if he instead mounted and booted a live CD and didn't save material? I don't think that would protect him much, anon.

>You can also dualboot but that's not recommended if you haven't had experiences with linux
my sides...

Oh, sweet. Which area you moving to?

>>4380693
>implying that leaving the EU is a bad thing
nice try, schlomo

>Safari can not open the page because the server unexpectedly disconnected
whenever i try to enter g.e hentai i keep getting this message.

is there anyway to fix that?.

>>4409967
switch to an ISP that doesn't block it

>>4409974
thing is I'm not in my home right now.

and i used to be enter g.e hentai in here.

i browsed for a bit and then safari couldn't open the page again just like my home.

why?

>>4380677
most of the censorship laws are for production as opposed to ownership. the only porn illegal to have is underage, bestiality and anything where serious harm is done to someone. Also, there is almost no enforcement of those laws because the police just don't have the funds to chase down minor offenders.

that said, are you nuts? even if the rising cost of education doesn't nail you, the uk is in a headlong run to ruin everyone that isn't super rich.

>>4410512
obviously the plan is to turn all the poor into refugees who will be taken in by the EU, so that these snobs can enjoy their afternoon tea in peace

>>4380922
He's a bong, they love their abusive nanny government no matter how terrible it is.

>>4380710
>I do intend to marry a cute English girl huhuhu~

I doubt it will work out in the way you imagine. Most of them will hate you for being American, they might tolerate you for being a self hating one at best.

why would you wanna go work and live in UK? shits are very likely only gonna get worse after brexit. at least wait till you know for sure brexit isn't gonna break uk before moving there.

>>4380710
>I do intend to marry a cute English girl huhuhu~
These sort of chick are gonna be considered "English" girl in a few years thanks to their shit pc-centric immigration policy.

>>4413452
Nah, nothing's gonna break: there's gonna be fallout, but there's a lot of exaggeration about how bad it's gonna be.

>>4380705

Says the inbred islander. You lot are the armpits of the world.

>>4399086
It's Florida, I live on the east coast and no one gives a shit what you jerk off to unless you go out and do some shit in public

>>4399086
>the loli law is generally enforced in red zones
No it isnt

>>4380677
UK is the last place on earth you want to be if youre searching for porn

safari can open g.e hentai again.

is this permanent or temporary?

bump! because i want to know if my regained connection to a website is permanent or not

>>4427636
i take that back

safari can't open g.e hentai again

(please someone kill me, this is torture)

>>4380685
this.
I used to go on the panda all the time when I was at Uni never had any problems