What does /g/ think of the MaXX Interactive Desktop? For th

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bumping

this belongs in the same obscure-tier trash bin as Amiga and Be

>>62439794
And you belong in an even bigger trash can with the rest of the nofunalloweds.

>>62439647

This is /g/, you're not breaking news here new jack. Shame on you for not even mentioning their work for Nintendo's N64

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>>62439839
>This is /g/
You mean that board where everyone gets mad when someone makes a thread about something other than phones or macbooks?

Also I don't care about the nofriendo64. Console gaming is stupid.

you promise it works on debian, anon? I want to try it for the obscure memes but i don't want to ruin my perfect install

>>62439946
Try it in a VM first or wait until later today and try version 1.2 that says it'll officially support Debian.

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>>62439647
>What doe(...)

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>>62439946
Thanks anon. I'll post some minimally indexed waifus while I wait.

>>62440034
>>62440055
Nice.

>>62439647
Can it be used with tiling window manager?
I like the styling but without tiled windows it would kinda suck.

>>62440285
I don't know. The main point of this desktop is that it includes a window manager called 5Dwm which is one of many components that gives it the "just werks" experience.

Also be sure to install additional X apps on Fedora if you want xclock and stuff. I don't like the default config for it so I wrote a little script that opens xclock with custom settings to make it digital and stuff and just tossed it onto the desktop, made it executable, and then changed the name and icon. That's what the "Clock" icon is in the OP picture.

 
#!/bin/sh
    xclock -digital -update 1

BUMP
lets take a break from phones n gaming parts

I said this in the last thread but the ironic retro look of this DE basically relies upon you having nothing but terminal and system settings windows open all the time, which you will do for screenshots. Just open a browser and a modern webpage and the look will probably be rather poor.

>>62440602
I'm new to this desktop ricing stuff. But I wonder if there's a way to adjust things so browsers only render a set amount of colors. That might help the web look more retro. But I don't know.

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Or you could just install a retro theme on xfce. The advantage is once you get tired of it you can change it back to modern appearance with a few mouseclicks.

>>62440732
not enough bevel edges
not enough shitty dither
not enough shitty colors
not shitty enough

>>62440603
>that espresso maker

>>62440732
Hideous icons. Also remove that text background from the desktop icons

>>62439647
I didn't know it was actually usable yet. Does it have virtual desktops?
>>62439839
>Shame on you for not even mentioning their work for Nintendo's N64
The N64 was a shitbox for children, who cares about that in the context of IRIX?
>>62440732
That's half-assed garbage, how the fuck could you think that's acceptable?

>>62440824
>hideous
I think that's the point?

Nice, I used to admin a few SGI workstations back in 99, a nice change from the zillion sparcstations.

>>62440958
yeah, hideous, not half-assed

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fuck yes, just got my O2 working yesterday.

>>62441101
cute, is it an R5000 or something nicer?

>>62441146
nevermind saw the hinv
the R10000 ones were shit anyway

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>>62440936
>>62440824

You don't know ho to install an icon theme?

For instance

https://github.com/n-kremeris/irix-icons-linux

or

https://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/?content=107478

>>62439647
>THIS thread again
>>62439787
>bumping because nobody gives a shit
fuck off

>>62441668
What are people like you doing on this board in the first place?

>ITT: Baby's first UNIX workstation

>>62441668
>THIS thread again
Why not, this DE is beautiful.

>>62441686
Make a thread about SGI, not your specific desktop environment.
This thread is shit.

>>62440602
>there are no applications out there other than web browsers
>he doesn't know about neocities

>>62440732
Looks like shit and the UI is totally different. The IID is more than just window boarders with a Motif theme.

>>62440936
>Does it have virtual desktops?
Not that I can find. 1.2 probably will though since it'll be a massive update.

>>62441017
Nice. I didn't use one until 2007.

>>62441101
10/10

>>62441586
Just look at those horrible status icons on the bottom and your fuzzy scribbled font. Looks like ass.

>>62441712
>your specific desktop environment.


>>62441714
>Just look at those horrible status icons on the bottom and your fuzzy scribbled font. Looks like ass.

you people are mentally disabled

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>>62441668
If you don't like it then as the OP you have my full permission not to look at it, you retarded cunt.

>>62441712
IRIX requires special hardware and only the 3-4 people that probably own SGI hardware would want to contribute. The MaXX Interactive Desktop is more accessible because it runs on Fedora on standard hardware.

>>62441738
>you people are mentally disabled
Where the fuck do you think you are?

I always liked the paradigm of icons on desktop that Unix had, before window managers like FVWM and IceWM started the emulate windos craze.

Openlook, CDE, NeXTstep. So nice work and job well done to whatever neckbeards scratched that itch.

>>62441822
GNUSTEP is pretty good.

>Not free as in Freedom.

Into the trash.

>>62441911
Go bitch at all the third parties that would try to drag SGI to court over licensing changes. It's the same reason why they won't open source IRIX. If you don't like it then don't use it.

>>62441760
>Where the fuck do you think you are?

At a place where people have enough IQ to righ-click on a panel icon and then choose to remove if they don't like it?

>>62441946
Should compile it on SPARC to spite to license.

SGI today is nothing but a shell of its past. There is nothing left but HPE.

SGI is dead, that license is bull

>>62441760
>IRIX requires special hardware and only the 3-4 people that probably own SGI hardware would want to contribute.
>3-4 people on /g/ own SGI hardware
this is what baby's first non-x86 workstation plebs actually think

IRIX was hot garbage, even compared to other Unices available at the time. People bought SGI for the hardware, IRIX was a price that had to be paid.
Everyone I know who has used an SGI machine was glad to be rid of it by the time upgrades came around.

Even if it wasn't proprietary rubbish I wouldn't want it.

>>62441971
But apparently not a high enough IQ to understand the difference between something like XFCE having a totally different window manager and application that MaXX.

>>62442001
>Should compile it on SPARC to spite to license.
You can if you want but this is a great way to get SGI to stop cooperating and I don't know what off the top of my head what other specific software dependencies MaXX has or how much source code would actually be available.

>>62442013
>this is what baby's first non-x86 workstation plebs actually think
You mentioned something similar earlier and I have no idea what you hope to get by leaving such an inane pile of shit over and over. Do you want a (You)? There you go, nigger.

>>62442018
That's your opinion. I like IRIX and I'd use it daily if all of the software for it wasn't two decades out of date.

>>62439839
Oh, wow Im such a haxor on this board where people only talk about applel and phones. Finally an interesting thread, don't fuck with it.

>>62442018

I admined a few workstations and in some regards I agree, Irix had some peculiarities and un-Unix like configuration. But it rarely had any issues and XFS was nice and stable. This was back before Solaris UFS had journalling.

Am I autistic for sort of liking the "ugliness" of these stations? Even the hardware has a sort of "ugliness" to them, what with the dumb colors.

>>62443226
The mismatched colors and rough design of the UI and hardware give it character and make it more pleasing to look at than a flat, sterile black case with the UI being bright colors on a black frosted glass panel. Modern software is uglier than this stuff.

interdasting.exe

>CDE
>shitty

that's a inopportune statement, that devalues the whole post, oppo

>>62440732
your post expresses autismus

>these were considered max-power workstations for the time
>today the raspberry pi, which is 10x as powerful (at least) can't do half as much

What went wrong?

>>62443321
CDE has an interface which is significantly less intuitive than IID/MaXX. I know because I still use CDE on some of my old ThinkPads that run Debian. CDE is garbage but it's the kind of garbage that you end up falling in love with.

>>62443387
Unoptimized software and a billion programs that do a half assed job rather than a small collection of really solid programs.

>>62439647
>It only works on 64-bit x86 machines

Damn this would be great for my old Thinkpads.

Guess I'm sticking with WindowMaker.

>>62439647
I WANT THIS !!

You should go one step further and start using groff for all your document presentation.

>>62439647
Can you get Point Blank for this?

>>62439647
Does it actually work now?
Does it include any other applications than the terminal and window manager?

>>62442018
nobody bought SGI for the hardware dude, that shit was the limpest RISC on the market and the graphics options could barely hold a candle to consumer solutions for most tasks by the turn of the century

they bought into it for IRIX, its software base and development tools, which was why SGI went under pretty much instantly when they shitcanned it for Itanium/Linux

>>62443387
>10x as powerful
watch the model 1 get the shit kicked out of it
http://users.sdsc.edu/~glockwood/comp/benchmarks.php
bet the new ones are maybe 3x at best, pis are fucking trash

>>62441714
>neocities
Redpill meon neocities. It seems like that place fucking died. The same sites are always on top and no one ever updates.

I really want /g/ to make web1.0 and neocities seems like the easiest for babby way to do it.

>>62441586
shit font
system tray
resolution too high
keep trying nerd

>>62446606
NeoCities is a good idea far too many years too late.

Really it's a stop-over until ZeroNet gets a bit further along.

>>62446427
>bet the new ones are maybe 3x at best
Not him but nope, the new ones are massive improvements to the original one

>>62446651
I like the simple websites people serve through IPFS. Shame IPFS has bugs and is slow. I want it to work out too.

>>62446832
The thing is, having small websites which many people can download and have on their computers is the most stable form of retention going, because it takes away the biggest problem with stability and retention: the internet itself.

The standard limit of 10MB on ZeroNet is a really cool way of making people more willing to download large amount of site's content.

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>>62443797
Yeah, I've tried to fix it so that it'll run on IA32 machines but it just breaks.

>>62445716
This isn't my work computer. I just use this one to dick around.

>>62445993
>Does it actually work now?
Yeah, and it's really stable.
>Does it include any other applications than the terminal and window manager?
Version 1.1 has a couple but it's really limited. I'm about to check the site to see if 1.2 is out yet. When it is I'll install it and report back.

>>62446606
I got like 30 views on my shitty little website in like 3 days, so it's not as dead as you think.

>>62446963
>10MB
This kills Pajeet.

>>62439883
I've been noticing this for a long time now. All people do is make shitty threads about laptops and smartphones. Is everyone on /g/ a pajeet?

>>62447874
Either that or kids from Discord since they always seem to have a server to shill. Discord is the new reddit, basically.

>>62447874
>Is everyone on /g/ a pajeet?
No but there are a lot of paid shills from Apple and Microsoft here. I see the same posts and images on numerous other image boards and forums. There's also a lot of phone posters spilling over from /b/ and Windows users from /v/. I've been here long enough to remember when people were unironically posting screenshots of their Rainmeter garbage on XP here.

>>62447918
Discord is fucking cancer and I hate it so much. The whole interface is unusable garbage thrown all over the place with no clearly defined controls or simple way to do things, and it lets the CIA niggers spy on you. Anyone who isn't retarded should use Telegram with a fake number (generated by Talkatone) or IRC or just secured email.

>>62440603
Man SGI machines are beautiful

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OpenSTEP > Other crappier unix environments for people to poor to afford a NeXTCube.

>>62448053
>to poor to afford a NeXTCube
You should use GNUSTEP instead because that's actually being worked on. You can also run that and actual NeXTSTEP in QEMU pretty easily. Meanwhile you can't emulate SGI hardware well enough to run IRIX in a VM. Besides, the IID/MaXX have a different look and feel which I prefer.

>>62447874
The change happened around about the same time the consumerwhores turned up, who'll get mad if you tell them that there's been no major improvements to standard usage for about 10 years.

>>62439647
>I just like the project and IRIX/SGI related stuff

do you have a girlfriend?

>>62448051
There are tons of broken ones floating around on ebay for less than $100. I've been thinking about trying to find an old Indy that's water damaged or just broken beyond repair so that I can gut it and use the case with some modern PC hardware inside. I would of course run MaXX on it.

>>62448117
>there's been no major improvements to standard usage for about 10 years
Things have gotten more bloated and buggy since then. This is why I made this thread. I want a lightweight and simple alternative to the flat and colorful hell that is the modern UI and I think that some others might also want it.

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>>62448159
>do you have a girlfriend?
No. Please look at my hostname in the screenshot.

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>>62439647
It's more consistent than any shit halfass freetard DE so I will give it that.
And hey the windows don't lag when moving them like Xfce.

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>>62447994
it's also a centralized IRC where they openly declare they're collecting your data and selling it to third parties (and most likely governments). but who cares because you get a free tshirt of your favorite twitch streemer

What bothers me is how every /vg/ seems to have a discord and that piece of garbage is somehow bleeding into /g/ generals. Even cyberpunk larpers are buying into the surveillance meme.

>>62448187
I've found that the biggest drain is internet browsers. I've got 3 4chan tabs open and Firefox is using 500MB. I know that's "not much" these days (even this old t60 has 2GB of RAM), but it's still a massive insult.

I just can't stand people who just say things like "it's meant to be used" as if that's the point, and not that it's being used at all for something so trivial.

>>62448215
a pre-openbox DE?

does it have my rc edit files?

>>62448255

open your own goyish thread, nu-faggot

>>62439647
I love it for the aesthetics, sucks that it's proprietary though. It's cool how IRIX has vector icons that are rendered in an aliased way.

>>62448215
Oh, you got it working on Arch? Nice job. Hope you enjoy it. If you look around on Deviant Art there are some nice IRIX icon packs you can use for desktop shortcuts so that they don't look out of place.

>>62448246
I love how that timeline image just keeps growing.

>>62448255
Chrome and Chromium are even worse. They'll just eat your CPU instead which causes horrible lag and makes your fans sound like helicopters.

>>62448323
>sucks that it's proprietary though
I feel you on that. The dev and SGI don't really have a choice because of asshats that'll take them to court over """"intellectual property""""

>>62448215
use a low fidelity monospace font in your 4chan css to help it blend in

MaXX sucks
gay thread OP
sage

>>62448255
the modern web is complete bloat garbage and unfortunately modern web browsers are bloated trying to render them. My suggestion is to use a light-end browser without a lot of currentmeme-support and make/use web1.0 sites. You'd be surprised how many modern websites you actually don't need in your life once you do this.

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>>62448452
I think that he's just using Photon. I might work on a custom 4chan CSS to go with MaXX but I'm feeling lazy today.

>>62448468
See >>62439883

You were described perfectly right there.

>>62448381
It just makes me mad.

It wasn't meant to be like this. I've seen people with Amigas and old Windows 95 machines and they're functionally as fast as a modern computer in real-world usage. Even SSDs are losing their benefit compared to a few years ago.

>>62447874
Most people here don't have "technology" as their interest - they are mostly interested in consumerism, aka /fa/, /biz/ and /v/ shit

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>>62448583
i've been playing around with retroish chan themes for another project, but its a work in progress. i might change fonts.

>>62448657
that looks neat

>>62446714
one day I want to get the source for that benchmark and try it out on a new pi to see if that's true, fuck I'll believe it
honestly I just hate Pis because people jerk off to them so much
>>62448323
let's be real here, nobody would give a shit about SGI systems if that wasn't the case; you can find gaudily colored shitbox PC cases all day long and MIPS is just another boring off-the-shelf ISA hidden under a million layers of abstraction, its the tons of ultra-proprietary, over-engineered hardware and non-standard SysV with its unique software library that makes SGI systems what they are and as popular as they are, while far more "open" platforms like Sun systems, Itanics and the like languish with minimal interest

granted, this bullshit was part of what killed the company, but it doesn't make the hardware any less novel or fascinating
>>62448649
fuck I wish this place had more /fa/ types, /g/ as a whole has absolutely shit-tier taste in design

very nice

>>62448589
I agree. At least we have GNU/Linux and BSD for older machines.

>>62448657
Nice.

>>62448707
>I just hate Pis because people jerk off to them so much
They're excellent computers for $40. I use a cluster of them running Debian as a home server. Very power efficient and very fast.

>you can find gaudily colored shitbox PC cases all day long
SGI cases do have a really unique look to them though. It's nothing like PC cases now. It's not just the colors, it's also the shapes. I know I sound like a 4 year old here but I really like the old housings for those SGI workstations.

>its the tons of ultra-proprietary, over-engineered hardware and non-standard SysV with its unique software library that makes SGI systems what they are and as popular as they are
I agree. It's the whole package that makes them so nice, and that's what I really love about it. The old PowerPC Macs have that same feel to them but they just aren't as comfy because early OS X was utter shit, and so was OS 9.

>>62448270
>>62448381
>>62448452
>>62448583
I have not riced anything yet.

I can't get over how fast and responsive everything is. I have just been sitting here opening, closing things and dragging stuff around.

Qt a shit
GTK a shit

What the hell are all of the current DE's even doing? X11 isn't the problem it's what's on top of it.

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>>62448885

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when

>>62448904
They're wasting their time on bullshit. No one wants to admit all the hard work is done and all you need is a skeleton crew patching bugs and optimising. KDE and GNOME were fine with 3.5 and 2 respectively.

>>62448904
Even though 5Dwm and MaXX as whole lack features right now they're designed to be lightning fast and not get in your way. Other DE/WM projects don't seem to have this as their primary goal, which is why their software is poo.

>>62448940
I want to get an SGI keyboard. I don't really care about the monitors but my IBM keyboard just feels out of place when using IRIX. I mean pic related is good enough but I still want another one.

>>62448977
Hopefully soon. I'm getting itchy. If it isn't here by 9PM I'm going to REEE out loud.

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>>62440732
im with xfce

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>>62449001
Forgot picture.

>>62449001
Here's what I don't get about current DE devs: they get nothing from hardware sales. So why do they always keep pushing bullshit """""features""""" that require new hardware?

>>62449057
They're just lazy and they don't optimize their code. They also give no fucks about having the smallest footprint possible so they go with the "if I can run it on my laptop then it's good enough" mentality.

>>62439647
thanks OP, quality post, I've always had a hard-on for SGI workstations since they appeared in computer magazines.
I remember the first time I saw the picture and spec for the SGI 540, I was in the backseat of my dads car reading computer magazines and he asked what I'd do if I had a million dollars...I said I'd buy a million dollars worth computer, dreaming of this computer, sparc computers, server racks...
Later on when I was 18 he bought me a car, which I immediately sold to buy an IBM. I'm not going anywhere I told that old geezer! He threw a slice of bread at me which at that time offended me quite a lot.

>>62449057
they might be under the false belief that power users who buy the latest bullshit is the only use-case for unix-like platforms

>>62449105
It's amazing how those workstations costs as much as a small house back then but you can buy them in working condition for well under $1000.

>>62449134
I actually remember when "old computer? install linux" was the entire selling point. Now it's "old computer? install windows 7".

What bullshit.

>>62449084
That the guy in charge of GNOME came out as using MacOS doesn't surprise me at all.

>>62448885
>They're excellent computers for $40.
oh hell yeah, don't get me wrong here, they're great for what they're meant to do
it's just a bitterness/autism thing when someone's talking about some neat as fuck high-end hardware that even today feels incredibly powerful and then some pleb immediately comes in with some "but a pi is so fast xd" shitpost
just disregard it honestly it's a bunch of bitching but it triggers me up the wall
>SGI cases do have a really unique look to them though.
they do, but try to picture a world where they were just run-of-the-mill NT workstations with OGL boards, sure they'd still be cool and I wouldn't complain about having them, but would they really capture your interest as much? I feel the same way about this kind of gear and when I really get down to it it's not just the look but the entire context of the system that makes it as interesting as it is, it's one reason I'm also really not into case modding
>I agree. It's the whole package that makes them so nice, and that's what I really love about it.
yeah man you get it
>>62449186
fuck you could get them by the truckload for next to nothing for a while, they were so hard to find a buyer for when they were P4-tier systems

>>62449224
>it's just a bitterness/autism thing when someone's talking about some neat as fuck high-end hardware that even today feels incredibly powerful and then some pleb immediately comes in with some "but a pi is so fast xd" shitpost
>just disregard it honestly it's a bunch of bitching but it triggers me up the wall
I think it's because your autism wants the old collector garbage to still be good even though it's not. Yeah, the pi runs like shit, but it can still compile things faster than your old collector's item. You have to get over that and stop taking yourself so seriously.

>wow jee wiz look at this dinosaur item everything to day is so soulless
ok grandpa

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>>62449200
>That the guy in charge of GNOME came out as using MacOS doesn't surprise me at all.
Really? So that's why Gnome looks and feels like a bad Auqa ripoff. I can't really say I care too much since the only desktops I use on GNU/Linux are XFCE, MaXX, and CDE.

>>62449224
>it's one reason I'm also really not into case modding
I have no problem with it as long as the machine is broken beyond repair and you save all of the internals that you possibly can. I do however have a huge problem with the assholes who will gut fully working/repairable retro machines just because they can, and I hate them even more when they just toss out the motherboard and stuff. I plan on gutting a broken Indy and using the case to put modern Intel hardware into it but I'll still run MaXX on it. I'd do this because I don't want to be left with absolutely nothing when my real SGI machines eventually grow old and fail with no replacement parts that would be affordable for me.

>you could get them by the truckload for next to nothing for a while, they were so hard to find a buyer for when they were P4-tier systems
Yeah, back in like 2007 I got an O2 for $30 and an whole bunch of software install discs for like $10. Now they're as expensive as 2011/2012 mid range Intel hardware.

>>62439647
Some kind of forgettable Windows 95 clone?

>>62449325
>your autism wants the old collector garbage to still be good even though it's not
Not him but "good" in this case is a matter of opinion. I don't think that he's referring to benchmarks but to the overall user experience and build quality. If you don't like my thread you can pull your big boy pants up and GTFO.

>>62449410
Quite the opposite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIX
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Graphics

>>62449411
that's exactly my point
>it runs the software it came with well
so? do you want to play around with a spreadsheet program or prehistoric graphics/math/database software and an ancient DE or something? so what?

I'm just saying that your attitude is just as flawed as "hurdur Pi is better", if not more so

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>>62449424
>I'm just saying that your attitude is just as flawed
It's a matter of interest and opinion. Yes, it's very much a hobbyist thing. If you disagree you can leave and just hide the thread. It's not hard.

>>62449512
owo

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>>62449550
>Nintendo switch
NOT OWO!
NOT OWO!
THE STAND SCRAPES MY SCREEN!

>>62449581
with low index, it just looks like chinese '90s handheld garbage
will nintendo ever recover?

>>62449619
>will nintendo ever recover?
This is the last one of their products I'll ever buy. I'm really salty.

>>62449410
You mean the true aesthetic. Wingdings 95 is for shit taste plebians

I'll give this a bump. Looks nice enough. I'm just worried it won't accelerate or use compositing with my nvidia.
Might be fun on my intel GPU based laptop though.

>>62449751
>I'm just worried it won't accelerate or use compositing with my nvidia
The focus of the project is to make a minimal desktop environment that gives you lots of overhead and makes things simple on workstation hardware just like back in the 90s with SGI hardware. You should try it out and tell us how it goes. I'm using it on a laptop and the only thing that I'm missing is battery and wireless network monitors but this isn't an issue since it's plugged in at my desk at home.

>>62449325
what are you whining about you projecting faggot? I'll be the first one in line to tell you that SGIs were limp, gutless pieces of shit even for their own time, we don't like them because we think they're good performers, stop taking yourself so seriously to think that we do

it would just be nice if you would shut the fuck up about your fruity maker hipster toys once and a while

>>62449852
>ur projecting
>muh fruity maker hipster toys
lol

>>62449871
>someone called me and my favorite consumer trash names on 4chan!
cry me a river, go be butthurt somewhere else

The MaXX: best thread in ages

thx op I have something to live for

now

>>62449922
You're welcome.

>>62449370
yeah parting out some fucked up box isn't really a terrible thing, it's more of just a personal lack of interest since it feels like taking out a bunch of unique components that were all engineered to fit together and replacing it with some run-of-the-mill parts kind of takes out the magic and it never does it for me

but if you can do it and do it well and enjoy it as much then fuck it doesn't bother me personally, it'll just throw more replacement parts on the market anyway from a system you'd likely have to gut something else to fix anyway

>>62448381

(((intellectual property)))

>>62450045
I just need a way to future-proof the old SGI look and feel as best as I can, and if that means case mods, x86 hardware, and MaXX on GNU/Linux I'll do it. The new custom built system will be way more practical and allow me to do actual work and not just play with it on weekends.

>>62450089
This has really gone too far and no longer does much to protect content creators but gets abused a lot. Didn't some Jew try to get legal rights to the swastika?

>>62448113
GNUstep is horrid

GWorkspace with Window Manager just breaks

>>62450222
>GNUstep is horrid
Only if you try to use it for actual work and productivity.

Granddad please leave

Where is the source?

>>62450182
>Didn't some Jew try to get legal rights to the swastika?

Yep, but prior usage exists.

>>62450254
Go play with your IoT SmartDildo(TM), little fag.

>>62450267
>Where is the source?
Source code for MaXX? Not available right now due to legal complexities with SGI and third parties.

http://www.maxxinteractive.com/site/?page_id=46

>>62439989
what's the black tablet looking thing sitting in front of the nearest monitor?

>>62450323
Don't know. Good question.

>>62450282
I bet my SmartDildo(TM) is more productive than granddadOS has ever been, considering it was a piece of shit even back in 1890

>>62449922
I agree. Minimal pol is just a sight for sore eyes. I hardly ever visit 4chan anymore since it became a Trump advertising platform last year, but I'm glad that after scrolling through the front page.. reloading the page, then finding this interesting looking thread. Reading through it, and liking it.

Good thread, OP!

>>62450388
Thanks for posting Dianne, how can i add you to my face book

>>62450316

>2) Redistribution of source code MUST retain this license document content in its totality in all modules, applications and source-code documentation like API, Software Development Kits and Framework.

Seems Redistribution of source code is in the license.

Is this a based on IRIX code? This licensing setup seems very abnormal for a small community project, even on that mimics a older setup.

FSV is GNU, even though its based on FSN.

The only reason this proprietary setup seems to be in place is if SGI are planning to mooch off it.

>>62450236
Yeah but then you'd just use Windows, Mac, iOS or ChromeOS anyway. At best a Chromium based browser with Google Docs on Ubuntu.

This is reminiscing about companies spending money to make the most of the hardware available to them.

Modern software is quite good too. A 2011 X220 with an SSD is just as fast as a modern computer for Office and web related tasks.

>>62449676
This. I'm so fucking tired of faggots thinking Wangblows 95 was somehow the dawn of computing.

>>62450482
>Wangblows 95 was somehow the dawn of computing.
It's the dawn of computing as we know it though. Portable, abstracting, available. You could use a floating window manager, which was better than not having anything. It might not have innovated in terms of XYZ, but it did innovate in terms of availability.

>>62450382
>>62450421
See >>62439883

Oh no! The circle jerk has been broken! Everyone plug their ears and close their eyes! AHHHHHHH!

>>62450432
>Is this a based on IRIX code?
Partially at least.

>The only reason this proprietary setup seems to be in place is if SGI are planning to mooch off it.
I could be wrong but I don't think so. I think that SGI is just limited in what they can allow to be open sourced because of the possibility of third parties suing them. This is why IRIX will probably never be open sourced, even if SGI wants to do it.

>>62450445
>Windows
No. Fuck no.
>Mac
I do and all it does it throttle.
>iOS
Are you joking?
>ChromeOS
It's just a web browser.

>At best a Chromium based browser with Google Docs on Ubuntu.
Chromium makes my fans sound like a helicopter, Google Docs are an underpowered botnet, and Ubuntu is utter garbage that I have no reason to use over Fedora.

>>62450482
This.

tick

tock

>>62450625
>>62450651
I'm waiting here too. Let's hope that Eric doesn't fuck it up and push the release date forward again.

>>62450589
>>>62450445 (You)
>>Windows
>No. Fuck no.
>>Mac
>I do and all it does it throttle.
>>iOS
>Are you joking?
>>ChromeOS
>It's just a web browser.
It gets the job done. Of course I know that people who work with computers use HomebrewOS/Chrome, I mean Mac, Fedora or Ubuntu, but people who work primarily with MS Office or similar use Windows. Adobe users use Windows or Mac, most graphics designers I know use Mac or Windows. Then there's the few who use a Chromebook.

>>62450694
I'm a software engineer for a living so I don't need Adobe products and WPS Office is better than MS Office and it runs on Fedora. A Chromebook would also be trash because it wouldn't be as easy to use a normal laptop running Fedora because it has a locked down desktop with a web browser and clock widget bolted to it. I also need more than 16GB of storage.

>>62448215
could you at least enable compact mode in firefox ?
its retarded default UI looks even more retarded inside those vintage windows decorations

>>62450782
Yeah that's why I wrote that people who work with computers use a Unix base.

>>62450694
Microshit Office has been browser-based for a long time and it surprises me how many normies who rely on it still don't know they can just go to office.com on any competent operating system.

>>62450694
hey why does it say (you) twice?

Are retro hardware/software/websites the future of privacy, /g/?

>>62451252
Because he's either a phone poster who can't into formatting or he doesn't know how to use a mouse to highlight things properly.

>>62451266
Yep. Hopefully it all lasts long enough to get RISC-V at the consumer level and systems that run totally free software that aren't 10 years old.

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>>62451252
It should say (You) twice for me, since, in quoting, I quoted the (You), and then in viewing my quoted post, it shows (You) again since I quote myself. Like in the image attached.

If you're the one I quoted, then it should say (You) in red up top, and (You) in green just below.

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I want to see pic related in some emulator

>>62451266
>>62451295

Do you think retro hardware especially (processors/media cards) will become worth more eventually? New hardware comes with botnets now that can't be uninstalled. I'm trying to decide if I'm spotting a trend here so I can make some investments at my local thrift shop.

>>62451355
i'm bretty gud at css and can probably make something like pic related. never done a desktap though.

>>62451355
Just looked at the Wikipedia page for OpenWindows.
>Platforms
>IA-32
>PowerPC
>SPARC
>x86
>x86-64
This will probably run in VirtualBox just fine.

>>62451361
No, but only because of the sheer amount of it out there. Retro hardware only becomes valuable when it's in very short supply or wasn't mass produced to begin with. By the time what you're describing would happen we'll already have alternatives.

>>62451436
Sure, new versions of openlook run on linux
But it looks different and has no programs supporting the framework

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>>62451483
You said you wanted it in an emulator though. VirtualBox or QEMU can do that.

>>62451519
They can't emulate a sparcstation
Anyway, doesn't matter since the software in that picture was sold for hundreds of bucks and can't be found anywhere online

>>62451550
>They can't emulate a sparcstation
Are you sure about that? Because QEMU can emulate shitloads of hardware.

>Anyway, doesn't matter since the software in that picture was sold for hundreds of bucks and can't be found anywhere online
You're probably wrong.

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>>62451582
An emulator exists, but it sucks
>You're probably wrong.
Feel free to prove me wrong. Some museum/collector has it, but they don't distribute the software online

This is a good thread. Just need more P2P threads and /g/ might be saved.

Can someone explain what the legal situation is that makes it impossible for SGI to open up IRIX?

>>62452016
Intellectual property trolls. Basically SGI would have to filter the source code and redact whatever they legally can't open source and this costs money and in return SGI gets jack shit except the possibility of being dragged to court. We're lucky that we even get MaXX at all.

>>62451355
this could probably pass as some flat ui today

>>62452568
make it dark grey and you basically have modern adooboo products

>>62452190
How can they release it as closed source and not open source though?

>>62453389
Licensing.

>>62451650
You should find out who those shitters are and see if you can talk to them and archive it somewhere like WinWorld. If you make a good case it may be possible.

>>62446651
zeronet looks real promising

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still no update

>>62439647
finally SGI thread.
>>62453554
aww yiss

>>62439647
Wow, reminds me of OS9 and earlier before Mac was redone for queers..

>>62455710
>implying mac wasn't always for queers

>>62454619
>>62446651
should i be serving my autistic retro webpages from IPFS or ZeroNet

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>tfw having found an SGI Indy being tossed out and snatching it, only to find that the system does not power on

I am pretty sure the PSU needs fixing since that is apparently a common issue, I could try to find a new PSU which are typically not cheap or try to repair the PSU itself which I somewhat lack the knowledge to.

>>62456725
The clock chip running out is also a common issue. You will need to replace it with a new part and then connect it to a terminal to program in the MAC address found on the back again, since it's normally stored in the clock chip.

Open source clone of 4dwm WHEN?!

>>62441760
>only the 3-4 people that probably own SGI hardware
are you retarded? there's dozens of faggots I know that own SGI workstations and browse /g/

>>62454953
>finally SGI thread.
No, it's a MaXX Interactive Desktop thread. OP said it's _NOT_ a SGI thread.

>>62439647
Why would I get 90s tech?

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OP here. I made a wordpress account last night and waited for a response. Checked it this morning and got a response from the dev.

http://www.maxxinteractive.com/site/?page_id=554&view=thread&id=27&part=1#postid-94


>>62456725
>or try to repair the PSU itself
This can be pretty dangerous. I'd recommend shopping for a new one. If you're not sure what type you need then go ask at the nekochan forum. It's slow but still active.

>>62457825
You know dozens of people on /g/? Where are you meeting them all? Is there some kind of yearly convention that I haven't been told about?

>>62457838
It's sort of an SGI thread.

>>62457937
Because it still works well.

>>62459513
>Because it still works well.
But today's technology works better and faster.

>>62460041
>and faster
AHAHAHA no it doesn't. MaXX is one of the fastest desktop environments I've ever used.

>>62460065
>I've ever used.
That's because you're only 16 anon.

>>62460097
I'm in my 20s.

>>62459513
>You know dozens of people on /g/? Where are you meeting them all? Is there some kind of yearly convention that I haven't been told about?
Containment threads like /retro/?

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>>62460158
>Containment threads like /retro/?
I don't visit often but I never see people with SGI machines there.

thanks op I love retro DEs, I'll try it

>>62460041
>But today's technology works better and faster.
No, it is bloated.

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>>62460204
No prob.

>>62460291
This.

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>release moved to next week
>"check back Sunday"

>>62460291
Except it's not.

>>62460936
Yes they are. You don't need three photo viewers, two taskbars, two settings panels, and candy crush preinstalled, fucking retard.

>>62460974
>Using Windows
Fucking retard

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>>62461075
>How to take a screenshot

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I figure one of you guys might know this. There's an old academic physical modeling synthesizer that runs only on NextStep. I tried both the Previous emulator and various virtualizations, but none worked with sound (I did manage to install the program in VMware, IIRC).
So is there any emulation or virtualization of Next that works with sound?

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>>62461177
I don't use Windows. Desktops like Gnome and KDE have similar problems anyways and regular window managers are a pain in the ass to configure the panel and get the applications you want.

>>62461193
Ha, just noticed that. I've been pulling these pics off Jewgle images.

>>62461274
I have no idea. Ask around on nekochan forums.

>>62461298
Thanks for the pointer, I'll have a look there.
I see the latest Previous is 1.7, so I will give it another try as well (I tried 1.4 last).

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>>62439647
I actually ran irix for a period of time
>man that screen was state of the art at that time
>muh 18" flat screen
>it was so fucking expensive
>.. and to slow to actually run a game such ie quake

We had to return it, I worked as a coder in the broadcast sector, and given it's sepcs, it did not deliver broadcast quality output signals.
So we went back to Matrox pretty fast

This model was shit dissapointing

>>62460200
I don't even remember the machines anymore
but is that an onyx o2 anon?

man at the one tv station I was at here, they were swapping them all out. Me an a coworker back then didn't know what to do with our selves. We entered an office with like 30 or so of them stashed, just placed on the floor ready for the gas chamber.

It was the holocaust all over again. I would have loved to have one of them

>>62463011

How was the look & feel of the DE/OS compared to the contemporary competitors (Winblows. Apple etc.)?

i wish irix was still alive and adobe made software for it. then i could stop using os x

>>62463155
back then it was really smooth actually

this was an x86 though you had 540 and the cheaper 320 that did that. They came with irix installed but you could run nt/2k on them.

I think these were the only boxes that could, so I ran irish for a while and had a look at their libraries. Since our codebase was on windows I had to install windows on it and give it a spin to test our applications in directx mode.


Our core libaries supported matrox digisuite and directX, so had it just delivered on broadcast quality back then it was a matter of just implementing those core libraries for irix and we would have been good to go. Man it's alarming that this is soon 20 years ago now, like shit scary.

Time flies anon, time flies. Heh back then you also didn't need any education to be a coder, you just had to be really good. I was jacked out of high school and had to finnish it and take my degree later. Never worked such a cool place afterwards anyhow. Sliding but was good times
>I was always driven out of tv stations control rooms
>hey kid! get lost! what are you doing, we're live on tv here!

>>62463271
>Never worked such a cool place afterwards anyhow.

I doubt such "cool places" still exist.

>>62463262
man I forgot about this, we didn't return the fucking box I posted. One of our graphics dudes ended up with it

I had completely forgot this until I read adobe. Like today back then photoshop and after effects was their game

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>>62463361
>I doubt such "cool places" still exist.
sigh true
It was so many places in the late 90ies and start of 2ks. Now it's just like boring office stuff, "coding" pajet tier crap
>on fridays we were not allowed to work, instead we were forced to play nintendo and playstation all day to get inspiration
>that was unless something critical had happened or we were to close to a deadline and pushing it

>>62459513
>multi-monitor
good
>next week
i've been jewed

also bluetoof and waifai would be a nice addition

>>62460200
everything about this is 90s aesthetic, down to the shitty carpet and the blue under the table top

>>62440034
>>62440055
>>62440187
>>62440202
>>62440282
>>62440292
>>62440304
looks nice, do you have a script for this?

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>>62464947
No script but you could write one.

>Open image in GIMP
>Select Image>Mode>Indexed
>Select Generate Optimum Palette
>In the box, type in a small number like 3 through 10
>Dithering: I like Positioned dithering but you can do what you want
>Convert

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>>62464898
>also bluetoof and waifai would be a nice addition
You can install other applications to do that. I have XFCE installed as a fallback in case something ever breaks and I can still use that settings panel to control those things. It's not really ideal but this is built for desktops and assumes that you'll be using ethernet and that you won't be configuring bluetooth devices very often.

I am very excited for milti-monitor support though.

>>62464931
I know. I really love it.

>>62439647
I've used a SGI Indigo, pretty comfy. It came with fortran, cc and many shells.

>>62465528
Nice.

>>62463011
>This model was shit dissapointing
Yeah, it was just standard x86 hardware, but using SGI's boot system for some fucking reason. Kinda like modern Apple computers.

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>>62465084
Neat.

>>62440208
thanks for my new thinkpad bios image

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>>62467780
bretty gud

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>IRIX will never be open source

>>62468405
I do and that's why I want it open sourced.

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>>62468354
>He doesn't want to run IRIX natively on modern hardware

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>>62468435
>>62468425
>>62468405
>>62468354
Huh?

>>62468476
You're seeing the post I deleted because I forgot to actually enable the dithering

>>62468513
What's the dithering for? It raised your file size, but it looks the same.

>>62468589
You have to zoom, it adds some shading vs the more flat colors of the other.

Even from the thumbnail on your screenshot I can tell a difference, the ditthered one has more accurate (to the ref image) shading under the chin on the neck.

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>>62460370
that looks comfy as fuck

>>62441760
That picture makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. It reminds me of when my dad used to take me to work with him back in the mid 90s. There were tons of weird (at least by todays standards) work stations like that. I think a lot of guys were still running Windows 3.1 at the time, and they had little things on their computer just like that knight too. WW2 plane models, Baseball mitts, dartboards. Things that said "i'm not a cubicle! I'm a human! I am human I swear", pretty sure the people that worked there wanted to go home and put on some crash test dummies and hang themselves with a fucking shoelace, but I got to run around the office and eat pizza so I always have fond memories of that type of setup.

Pic related was my first computer. Dad picked it up with an old CRT monitor at a pawn shop for like 200 bucks when I was 9 years old. It ran Windows 95. It was already pretty outdated and I wasn't connected to the internet but it ran Rogue Spear and Delta Force 2 which was all that I cared about.

Damn dude that picture took me through memory lane harder than a hit of DMT

gentoo ebuild when