>it is legal to produce laptops WITHOUT a trackpoint why

because trackpoints are literally placebo

Nah, just let them suffer
>>62368988
In what way does an alternative means of manipulating a cursor qualify as placebo? It's convenient, which is a subjective term. It's right in between your home row, where you hands are, anyways. What about that is a lie? My opinion?

>>62368988
how is a device that works as advertised "placebo"?
fucking retard

>>62368988

Its the best way to mouse on a laptop.

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>>62368988

>>62368988

Retard detected. Go back to your MacBook.

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>>62369012
>>62369031
>>62369138
>>62369143
>>62369171
fuck m8 good job

>>62368988
see >>62368988
Once I got used to using a trackpad again I stopped giving a shit, I don't mind having a trackpoint but I don't mind living without one either, there aren't really that many cases where there's a significant advantage anymore in the era of multi-touch.

>>62369171
>go back to your laptop that isn't a $200 piece of second-hand shit from eBay that someone was going to throw in the trash
I'm sure he will, and love every minute of it.

>>62369250
but Anon, my 5th gen x1C is much more expensive than most macbooks.

>>62369298
>But anon, my shitpad is just a MacBook with a more hipster-cool badge on it!
What point were you trying to make other than demonstrating that you're even more of a brainless sheep than a mactard?

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>>62368861
the trackpoint is shit and overrated. wireless mouse is much comfier.

First time I opened a chinkpad I didn't know what that retarded red dot was for, so I took a plier and got rid of it before I even turned it on, because it looked like something I'd constantly hit instead of the keys around it.

>>62368861
It's well past the time to kill all the normies. Each year they get more and more stupid, now the trend is huge ass touchpads that is impossible to type comfortably.

>>62370122
For some reason the ultranav buttons on the T60/T61 are really uncomfortable. It was immediately rectified on the x00 generation. Don't badmouth the trackpoint

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>>62368861
>horrible touchpad
Well, that's like, your opinion?

>>62370122
of course a mouse is the ideal solution, but we're talking integrated devices here.

>thinkpoor users shilling the device this hard
>proceed to call other people "shills"

>>62368861
Have you ever used a good touchpad? The one on your memepad doesn't count

>>62371546
>windows
You should be banned on sight

Even if you don't like it to move the cursor.

The scrolling alone makes it worth it.
I'm considering a desktop keyboard with a track point just for that reason.

>>62370676
>now the trend is huge ass touchpads that is impossible to type comfortably.

The very fact they need to make them bigger and bigger proves touchpads are ultimately shit.

Imagine of they had to make mouse pads bigger and bigger - people would laugh.

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>62368988

>>62372319
>>62368988
fag

>>62368861
not using a real mouse should be illegal.

>>62368861
>hating on freedom
Fuck off.

>>62371680
ISWYDT

>>62368861
Track point was best but multi touch pad is better

>>62368861
where to buy eraserhead trackpoint?

>>62374699
I've seen it in aliexpress

>>62369031
Placebos also work as advertised.

>>62371034
>of course a mouse is the ideal solution
Except it isn't, trackpoint is far superior. Hands never leave the keyboard

>>62369012
>implying most norms can type and know what "home row" is

for people who post on /g/, it would be neat. I'd love to have one on my MacBook honestly

I bought a few thinkpads from ebay to try them out but the display was too dim. Got an Acer Aspire E15. I can't go back to anything less than a 1080P screen.

>>62376099
>I can't go back to anything less than a 1080P screen, not IPS and without an upgradeable processor.
Me neither, which is why i bought a ThinkPad.

>>62376129
Let me guess you have a tiny x220/230 kek

>>62376178
T440p.

>>62376189
Can't mod the horrible sound quality. And having to mod something that is trash is the first place is hilarious.

I personally dont like trackpoints. I have two laptops that has a nipple (t420 and xt2) and it's just so imprecise in my opinion.

I just use a mouse

>>62368988
fpbp.

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>>62371680
>he doesn't use a leather mouse pad

>>62375117
I just looked but going through archives xsauc mentioned that they're sold by unicomp

>>62368861
You never used a good touchpad.
Trackpoints are only useful when space is a restriction.

Now fuck off with your meme.

Mouse > Trackball > Touchpad (Mac) > Trackball (Laptop) > Touchpad > Trackpoint

>>62368861
dell latitude/xubuntu user here
never got used to it .. always turn it off

mouse tuning:

#!/bin/bash
synclient MaxTapTime=0
synclient MaxDoubleTapTime=0
synclient VertEdgeScroll=0
synclient VertTwoFingerScroll=0
synclient MaxTapMove=0
xinput -set-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick" "Device Enabled" 0

>>62378608
touchpad tuning, that is
maxtaptime must be turned off
will make the touchpad do mouseclicks
vertedgescroll will drag borders with the touchpad
others, the same

>>62376286
i dunno .. impression i got is that you hit it, the pointer moves a bit then it accelarates away

turned it off .. use touchpad

>>62368861
i used a trackpoint once but i found it kinda annoying because i had to put to allot of pressue on it otherwise my finger would slip off.
maybe i nust have to get used to it

>>62371302
this. the only reason I use my trackpoint is because the trackpad is such shit. I'd gladly trade it for a MBP trackpad if I could.

>>62380240
>manlet problems

>>62375304
>Hands never leave the keyboard
Really doesn't seem like much of an advantage to me.

>>62368861
That's a nipple dude

>>62368861
>dat filename

>>62368861
Trackpoints suck, it's like trying to point at something with a fishing line.

Thinkpad phone when?

I just want my op3t with some sort of track point and I'd never buy another phone.

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Just sold my x220 (roast me fuckers) for 200€. At the same time I was buying a mint condition x240 (roast me again) for 210€.
I just couldn't stand the crappy TN panel. Gonna swap the x240 screen for a FHD asap.

>>62376255
It's amazing how blind haters would grasp at straws, do you really have nothing in your life now that Steve "macfag" jobs is dead ?

>>62369031
Because it's the closest you'll ever get to touching a clitoris

>>62376255
>good sounding speakers
>water resistant speakers

pick one

>>62382113
>So mad he has to bring up Apple
Only Apple product I owned was an Ipod classic

>>62382552
>Don't be a moron
>don't spill water on laptop
pick two

>>62382018
the droid incredible had a small optical sensor that functioned like a small ball mouse. it was amazing.

trackpoints let you switch back and forth between mousing and typing almost seamlessly. instead of moving your whole hand off the keyboard, you move your thumb and index finger an inch and keep the rest of your fingers on the home row

>>62382780
Even something like the touchpad/ analogue stick things from the steam controller.

It could even double as the fingerprint reader

>>62382790
Why am I that interested in not moving my hands an inch more than absolutely necessary? Not once, in all my years of using trackpads on laptops and regular mice on desktops, have I found myself thinking "Christ, it's such a chore to move my hand a little bit to use the pointing device. If only I had something right in the middle of the keyboard."

Yes, I've used laptops with a clitmouse. Yes, I understand that with sufficient practice, I could be just as adept with it as I am with the much more intuitive trackpad or mouse. I still don't think it's worth it.

>>62382931
>Not once, in all my years of using trackpads on laptops and regular mice on desktops, have I found myself thinking "Christ, it's such a chore to move my hand a little bit to use the pointing device. If only I had something right in the middle of the keyboard."
i legitimately am annoyed every time i have to take my hands off my keyboard to go to a mouse

>>62368861
>why
Unsure.
>do they not know
Often times they have seen one before but not used one, as an owner of several ThinkPads I have seen this happen a lot.
>should we help them
Yes, absolutely.

We should petition to get TrackPoints added to consumer-grade laptops and also (((gaming))) laptops, like the Razer Blade. I consider having a trackpoint one of the bare minimum features for a laptop to be usable. Do I want to use a thin laptop that looks like a MacBook clone? Not really, but if it has a TrackPoint, I can make myself do it.

>>62375304
this

>>62382985
Then you have a reason to want a clitmouse, even if it's a stupid one. Most people just aren't that bothered by having to move their hands off the keyboard.

>>62376578
w2c?

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I demand the death penalty for manufacturing or selling laptops with glossy displays.

>>62382054
Why not get an X220T then? Guarantees an IPS panel. You can also just put an IPS panel in the X220, but you don't seem like the skilled type.

I disable the trackpad in the bios and use the TrackPoint exclusively on all my ThinkPads.

>>62383169
>Then you have a reason to want a clitmouse, even if it's a stupid one
yes, i already know that. that's why i offered it as a plus in this thread.