for maximum security, which is the best? Tails or Qubes?

The needed hardware for Qubes is insane. Gotta have something that runs on old stuff.

>>62316571

so true :(

>>62316412
They're around the same. Snowden used Tails (plus its lighter since not everything is in a fucking VM)

>>62316412
If you have the hardware, use qubes.

>>62316412
neither

qubes is still xen based which is a shitshow when it comes to security in every regard.

tails is a nice idea but has\had no audit and the user base and developers are barely existent, which doesn't speak for its security.

openbsd is the best choice on the market.

you can try and buy grsecurity patch, but grsec doesn't have a business plan for enthusiast users.

>>62319772
>openbsd is the best choice on the market.
explain further

>>62316412
Whonix

>>62320027
isn't whonix supposed to be used in a virtual box? so both qubes and tails could use it

>good luck NSA i'm behind 40 secure OS's

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>>62320025
fuck you cia nigger

Whonix
inside OpenBSD
inside Qubes
inside Tails

The encrypted, airgapped one that's locked in a faraday cage inside a safe in an undisclosed location, preferably buried 16+ feet underground.

>>62320275
Vista it is. Thanks anon.

>>62320275
*sticks bendy straw into your PC and sucks out the data*

>>62320335
anon no

>>62316412
>systemD
Nice try botnet

>>62316412
Why not Whonix too OP?

>>62320639
Does tails and or qubes use systemD?

Tails has been backdoored by the NSA for years. Avoid

>>62320946
qubes is based on fedora 23 so yes it does

why youd build a security focused os on fedora is beyond me

>>62320183
you normally use whonix inside qubes

also shit thread tails is a privacy focused os

shills will have you believe it's secure

>>62321171
please
PLEASE
citation needed

Tails is better if you need to leave no trace of data behind, it's the kind of OS you would use on a laptop on public Wi-Fi to avoid a well funded threat like the government (which is why it worked for Snowden).

Qubes is better for straight up security, if you can afford greater hardware to run it. Qubes can also be more anonymous than Tails as you can set up a TorVM to route traffic through similarly to Whonix.

>>62321876
https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/12719
http://dachary.org/?p=4116
https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/12678

>>62316571
but the network sandbox setup of pubes is just too good