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/tpg/ Thinkpad General Now With Fewer Trannies Edition

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>>62242780

IRC: #/tpg/ on irc.rizon.net, IP addresses collected for your safety

Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. GETACs, Toughbooks).

>New to /tpg/ or looking for purchasing advice?

https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

>If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THINKWIKI FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requireme$

>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN Panasonic Toughbooks, pre-Lelnovo Thinkpad A, T, X, and number series,$

>Be careful of CIA niggers recommending you flash unusal firmware.

>Recommended models:
T60, T61, X60, X61, 860, Transnote, PC110

>Models to stay away from:
Anything with 'island' or 'chicklet' keyboards.

>Used ThinkPad buyers guide:

https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Buyers_Guide

NORMIES GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeee
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>>62255276
first for patrician Elitebook 8470p
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How have you upgraded your Thinkpads? I have a 525GB SSD and a 5TB HDD in my T500. I also went from 4GB to 8GB of RAM.
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>>62255289
Not a Thinkpad, Toughbook or a GETAC, not really relevant.
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>>62255289
It combines none of the strength of old business design with none of the strengths of new business design. truly a marvel
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Good sleeve options for an x220 with 9cell and an x230 with 6cell?
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Elitebook 840 G2
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>>62255364
Lacks Ultrabay, dual battery option, has chicklet shit keyboard, glossy screen only, etc.

It's totally for business normies who never used a proper laptop.
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>>62255339
Maxed the ram and installed an SSD.
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>>62255360
I'd buy a toughbook or getac in an instant if their resolution weren't so abysmal.
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>>62255463
Resolution is maximum comfy and saves on battery.
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>>62255490
I just can't work with that.
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Should I get a T460 with a 768p screen or a E570 with 1080p? The T460 also bring pro dock station.
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>>62255507
You'd be amazed to find out that most of Unix was written on 80x24 terminals.
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>>62255463
What's wrong with 1080?
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>>62255529
You know how people that were born at high altitude can live places where other people can't? I wasn't born in 80x24 altitude, and although resolution was low once in my life, I have become accostumed to reasonable resolution and can't go back.
>>62255546
I'm referring to the 4:3 models.
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>>62255463
Toughbook comes with FHD now.
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How heavy is a T430 ? Like i want a powerful laptop that can last a good while but also for school and in the simlar price range (eBay price range) was looking at the x230 but i don't like how the CPU is soldered so no upgradability and i can't afford anything crazy new (budget 100$)
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>>62255560
Where can you buy a full HD 4:# screen these days?
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saw this in previous thread
is funny
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>>62255588
Also i liked how you could replace the CD drive on the T430 with another Drive Bay, so what do you guys recommend?
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>>62255595
This one's my all time favorite.
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>>62255590
you can't. That's my conundrum.
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>>62255631
T60 IPS for you then.
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>tfw you run your finger around the soft rim trackpoint

who else soft rim trackpoint here?
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>tfw want to buy a nice ultrabook, but also want to build a desktop
such is the life of a poorfag
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Why aren't you anons using an X40?

>no hardware backdoor
>super efficient processor
>best keyboard
>near-retina screen
>10+ hour battery life with wireless, 14 hours with it turned off (with new chink battery)
>no homosex trackpad
>no need to install transexual boot shit
>gigabit ethernet
>tiny and sexy
>proper aspect ratio
>internal roll cage to protect drive (no screen / lid cage but IDGAF)
>actual IBM logo
>no built in camera or mic, stymies CIA niggers
>only $30 or so
>cute docking station and extended battery available
>*yellow* thinklight to preserve night vision
Why don't you own the finest laptop ever made?

Photogenic weekend pic included.
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>>62255704
Buy X60 or X61 for > $100 or so, then build Ryzen desktop.
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>>62255705
>That screen ratio
Yuck
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>>62255705
>not again
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>>62255714
< I mean.
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>>62255718
>>62255729
Millennials, everybody. Bask in their glory.
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>>62255635
I just.. I had hoped thinkpad retro would maybe give me 10 more years before my way of life became completely obsolete. I can't rely on t60 forever.
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>>62255730
Fuuuuuck
Thank you anon
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>>62255705
It all comes down to the specs. It's just not powerful enough for me. That's all. If I could get it with a 2x2.5GHz CPU and 8GB RAM I'd buy one ASAP.
Also, it's expensive where I live. We're talking >$100.

>no built in camera or mic, stymies CIA niggers
Well, it has speakers though. You should remove them.
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>>62255714
i already have an x201, i just want a nice 13-15'' laptop. Is that too much to ask?
I am this >>62252372 fag after all
I'm looking at acer or huawei right now
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>>62255752
Instead of the trannies who are usually posted here I thought we could use some eye bleach.
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>>62255718
Leave forever.
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>>62255745
I intend to rely on my older Thinkpads forever. At least until somebody comes out with something with 4:3 and Risc-V in a tough-as-nails body.

>>62255767
It's powerful enough for most tasks, except modern 3D gaymen and streaming VP8/9.

>Well, it has speakers though. You should remove them.
Why? And it only has one speaker. But I get what you're saying, it sucks to make life hard for our SJW spymaster bronies.

>>62255784
>acer
>huawei
>"nice"
no
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>>62255831
they're as much chink shit as anything made by lelnovo
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>>62255718
Leave forever.
>>62255743
Are you 50 years old or do you not know what millenial means?
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>>62255831
A speaker can be turned into a microphone. Technically, it IS a microphone.
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>>62255899
Yes it can, but not with the circuitry inside a Thinkpad X40. With Intel HD audio it's possible though.
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>>62255930
MODERN Intel HD audio, anyway. Older generations before about 2010 didn't have this issue.
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Where can I buy a Thinkpad with Bitcoin in Canada?
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>>62255276
Halp!

Do this shit works with the TP charger or I need another charger for this?
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>>62256070
With Bitcoin crashing it's a good move to convert your investment into older Thinkpads. This is for sure.
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Hello everyone,

Why not purchase Dell notebooks instead of ThinkPads? It must be that all of you are homosexuals since you all like quality products, and as homosexuals think visually, Dell laptops are a good replacement for your ThinkPad laptops as they are designed to mimic said. ThinkPad laptops are too good for homosexuals like yourselves.
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^^^^^^

BAIT, DO NOT REPLY
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>>62256082
You just plug your regular power supply in the back.
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@62256106
>62256106
<>62256106
^62256106
(You)
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Do Toughbooks/Getacs have good Linux driver support?
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>implying Dell isn't gay
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>>62255705
Why not X41?
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>>62256130
Everything worked out of box with my Toughbook CF-C1 and Debian+nonfree installer.
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Can someone explain the point of a thinkpad dock when it doesn't even improve the performance of the laptop? Does a typical thinkpad not have enough ports already?
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>>62256138
I saw a mint X40 and grabbed it. X41 is barely worth the upgrade IMHO.
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>>62256118
Is a good deal one of these for ~$18 USD W/shipping?
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>>62256131
We at places like Dell think that a transsexual having intercourse with a straight person constitutes heterosexuality. Again, we know that homosexuals think visually, so this is our scheme to imply being gay means being straight.
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>>62256192
It makes it easy to transition from a mobile laptop to a stationary "desktop" sort of setup
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>>62256206
I don't know which generation this is. Price is kinda OK though. You might find them for as little as $5 though.
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>>62256271
Series 3, Type 4337
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>>62256192
I can only tell you why I have one.
I bring my laptop to school and work so I just leave a charger in my bag. As soon as I get home, all I have to do is throw it on the docking station to charge and use immediately. Hook up a couple of monitors and m+kb and youre good to go in a few seconds. For me its just convenient.
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>>62255289
It is truly great. Gave it to my Dad after throwing W7 and a mangaro on it combined with more Ram and a fast 840EVO. It is a pure rocket, stays cool and was cheaper than any chinkpad back in the day.

Now I am trying to shoot a x230 with an i7 and will wait until pepe ruski brings out his 2k panel mod
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>>62255289
Why not an Apple instead? Apples are "elite books", aren't they? You aren't truly being elitist with the HP Elitebook.
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>>62256291
Price is OK then. $10 would be awesome but instead of waiting for an offer, you could just buy it and be happy.
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>>62255705
Because I'm still saving up for one
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>>62256150
Looks good. Might have to pick one up.
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>>62256194
OK, I just wanted to know if you made an active decision against the X41 for some reason
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>>62255276
HI
currently have a t400 that i bought for 200 like 4 years ago.

I now need a new one. what thinkpad is best for 200-700 European monies ?


I can get a Thinkpad L430 for 200 would it be a good laptop ?
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>>62256415
T430
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>>62256415
If you have up to 700€ available, you could get a T450. If you don't like that
>>62256454
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So, are thinkpads conformally coated? I waterboarded my t420s and it worked fine even with water sitting on the board so I'd guess so, I know a guy plastidipped his ThinkPad which was pretty nice, also, does anyone know how to waterproof the surface of the LCD? Essentially I'm aiming for a ThinkPad that can be used in light and heavy rain
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Batteryfag here, some of you may remember me from /odg/ and I have some advice on laptop batteries.

Whether you get a used Thinkpad, or have one you bought new, after a while you'll notice that your battery is starting to go to shit. There are procedures you can enact to restore some life to an old battery. YMMV but I've taken batteries that had 1/2 of their original capacity and refreshed them to 90% or more with these simple procedures.

First thing to remember about Li-Ion batteries is that they can only endure a certain number of "full" cycles before degrading below their specified capacity enormously, but what is a "cycle?" A cycle is defined as the *equivalent* of a full charge and discharge. If you charge your battery all the way and then drain it all the way, this is one cycle. If you charge it all the way, drain it to 90%, charge, and drain back to 90% you'd need to do this ten times for a "cycle." However, if you drain a battery all the way every time you might only get 500 cycles before it's degraded substantially. However, if you drain it to 50% and recharge each time, you can easily get 1500 cycles out of the exact same battery, and if you only drain it to 90% you can get over 5000 cycles.

Depth of discharge is what kills batteries. Don't drain them to empty, and if you can, set your laptop to hibernate automatically when it hits 10%, or 25%, or more, depending on how long you want your battery to last.

OK, on to refreshing. First, take your battery and charge it all the way. Then drain it all the way until your computer turns off, and charge it all the way again. Take it out of the machine and leave it for a couple days or maybe a week, then charge it again without draining it first. It will have partially self-discharged a bit. Then drain to no lower than 40%, and recharge it. Do this a couple times, resting the battery for a couple days each time. It will massively boost your capacity. Continued.
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Started getting this weird pattern on the underside of my T420s. It was portruding a bit so I touched it and it started flaking off. What is happening?

Pic related. The exposed part is what already flaked off.
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>>62256482
why do you need to use a laptop in the rain?
and no it's not coated, it just has drain holes
if you spill water just right it will kill the computer
and if it doesn't kill it everything will get corroded and in a year it wont work anymore
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>>62255743
W-what if I don't like 4:3 because I'd rather have a huge laptop with the height of a typical 4:3, but 16:9?
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I just bought a second hand T450 with an i7-5600u, 8gb memory, 500gb SSD and touch screen for £500. Did I do good?
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>>62255689

who else /softrim/ masterrace?
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>>62255276
HP EliteBook 8470P – Core i5 OR Lenovo l430.

the hp is faster cpu and looks better made.
anyone any thoughts ?
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>>62256497
If the above didn't refresh your battery quite a bit, you can do the more extreme procedure of putting it into a plastic bag, evacuating the air, and freezing it for a few days. Then take it out of the freezer, whack it really hard a number of times with the palm of your hand, and let thaw to room temperature before taking it out of the bag. Try the above procedure again. Make sure to monitor your computer for a couple hours after you insert the previously whacked and frozen battery in case of fire, if you get too overzealous you could damage the pack. The goal here is to break up the dendrites which have formed and caused high resistance inside the cell(s), not to unsolder the batteries.

It's also possible that some day you will randomly create what's known as a "breaking charge" where you break up the dendrites and your battery gets magically better, but this happens only rarely with a stock charger, most people who do this use a special piece of high-current zapper equipment for an instant on the cell.

Then install tlp and don't let your battery charge until it drops below the amount you've chosen to maximize your battery life (35%+) and have it stop charging when the thing hits 90% or so. You will enjoy massively prolonged battery life.

I hope some of you can use my advice to increase your enjoyment of older Thinkpads and tech in general. If you have questions read batteryuniversity.com and then ask away.
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>>62256582
Mee
I got a set on ebay hoping that I would like the classic dome but I found myself going back to soft rim
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>>62256582
Soft dome here, but does anybody think classic dome sucks the moisture and oils right out of your fingertip? It makes my finger feel awful.
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>>62256540
do you live in a hot shit hole ?

either that or dont leave it in the car/window nigger.
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>>62256612
Absolutely true. It's disgusting.
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What's the cheapest thinkpads I can get for the rest of my family for internet browsing that is an improvement to the chromebook my brother destroyed?
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>>62255289
>>62255376
>>62256106
>>62256584
HP / Dell shills thick here now that they've been rightfully pruned from OP.
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>>62256082
just get another one because the point of a dock is not needing to plug anything in.
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>>62256624

x220 or t420, both can be had for $150 easily and will run modern web and steam vp8/vp9 fine
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>>62256623
Whew, now I feel a little better about replacing the nubs on my vintage Thinkpads with soft domes.
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New to thinkpad, and want one for basic work (office, internet/email, etc.)

Doesnt have to be too powerful, I'm going to replace the OS with some form of linux anyways. but should be powerful enough to not lag when trying to open the fucking browser (e.g. my current shit netbook). not trying to cash out. what do you guys recommend?
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What's the most powerful ThinkPad I can get?
The one with the best performance, best specs, best reliability
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>>62256612
Yeah I agree too. I really wanted to like classic dome but they just aren't right for me.
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>>62256584
>>62255289
The 8470p is garbage. That's what we've had at my workplace for a couple of years now. The lack of a middle button for the nub is simply inexcusable and makes using it early impossible. The track pad is also tiny, so your best bet is to just use a mouse.
IMO, it has absolutely no advantage over a similarly priced thinkpad.
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>>62255276
I'm looking for a laptop that will give me 15+ hours of battery life on word processing with an i7 and decent SSd size out of the box.
anybody got anything?
I really want the hot swappable battery
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>>62256722

p50 or p70 probably
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>>62256739
You have some unrealistic expectations man. Why do you need an i7 if you're just doing word processing
As for the ssd just put one in yourself

I don't know which models do this but I suggest getting one that fits your needs and then purchasing a full 9 cell battery, a "slice" battery, And an ultrabay battery. That would get you close anyhow.
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>>62256739

The ones with an internal 3c battery that make their external battery hotswappable only take a 6c external and don't have a battery slice. Youll be best served by a t420/430 or x220x230 with 9 cell battery +6cell slice for a total of 150wh
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>>62256775
typically people that "need an i7" don't know why they need it
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>>62256620
It's been hot as fuck this whole week 110+. It's not in direct sunlight though.
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>>62256540
interesting, it seems you are melting the rubberized plastic paint and exposing the bare magnesium alloy

it's not flammable like pure magnesium but it is subject to oxidation, which is probably what is happening to it

you could polish it and spray clear coat over it if you wanted
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>>62256798
Yeah lol.
Honestly I just bought a new thinkpad and I thought I needed a model with a gpu and i7
I have a t420 with gpu because I wanted to use it with the gtx960 I have laying around but after thinking about it for a while I don't really have any need or abundance of extra money to do it. Maybe someday I'll get a modded bios and one of those quad core cpus but until then the i5 does a really good job with an ssd and 8gb of ram.
>>62256775
Of course I'm not against upgrading but I reccomend that you go with a baseline model first to get an idea of where you need to go from there. As well as it being cheaper to upgrade as you go along instead of paying for the parts and the implied cost of installing it when you get yours off ebay or something.
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>>62256788
what constitutes a battery slice?
I'm not sure I understand, I don't mind having to power off the laptop to add a battery.
I just want to buy a laptop that'll work well and last over 15+ hours, with a battery in my bag in case I run it too hard over the day's work.
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>>62256798
this is true, I'm only aiming at the i7 because it's the latest
should I not? I'm an enthusiast but battery life is my utmost concern
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>>62256856
Thanks.
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>>62256670
They probably don't even need that level of performance. I might check out the c2d thinkpads.
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>>62256876
A slice is a battery addon that is offered by lenovo an IBM. On selective models an external battery can be affixed to the underside of the laptop in the docking port.
google an image to see examples, there are too many varieties of shape and size to give a good visual with just one picture.
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>>62256876

It plugs into bottom of the laptop making the whole thing about half inch thicker all across the bottom of it. Pic related
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void x x60t desu
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>>62257003
>X60t
gonna get my X61t next week.
I'm so excited.
And I just can't hide it.
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2x R51, an R50, and an A21
All for $50
What can I do with these?
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What do you do for fun on your ThinkPad?
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>>62257143
watch anime
listen to music
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Why shouldn't I buy a yoga x1?
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>>62257229
Not a business laptop.

>>62257143
Play Civilization IV Beyond the Sword in Wine.
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>>62257241
I'm buying it for college
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>>62256670
>>62256922
Please don't bother investing in core2duo machines. They really aren't that good.
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>>62257252
>>62257229
The yoga is not a thinkpad. This is not yoga general.
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>>62257252
he didnt mean you should do business stuff with it, he means build quity, features etc
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>>62257143
Watching movies, playing vidya.
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>>62257258
>Please don't bother investing in core2duo machines. They really aren't that good.

For browsing and media consumption, they're more than enough. Obviously, if you can get an Intel Core laptop, it's better.
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>>62257453
good enough until you want modern features like USB 3.0, displayport, more than 4gb RAM, power efficiency... etc.
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>>62257581
The x/t/w*00 thinkpads support up to 8gb ram and as long as it doesn't have a dGPU like w500 the battery life will be fine.
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>>62255276
/tpg/, why are you not rejoicing over the reveal of the Thinkpad 25? Why does it matter if it is based on the T470 if it has the classic keyboard? The only thing they could possibly mess up is the dedicated volume buttons and the T470 had those.
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>>62255276
How much would you pay for a craigslist T440s 1080p w/ a 256gb ssd? The customization means that its hard to find an exact sell on resale sites like ebay for a realistic estimation. Any good rule of thumb for other used thinkpads?
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>>62258149
I got my T420 for under eighty dollars. If you know how to comb ebay, you can get a similar deal.
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>>62256572
You'll never make a THinkpad rain-proof, you need a specially built ruggedized computer for that scenario.
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>>62256697
X61s.
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>>62257258
Pentium M will cover all normie use cases except streaming video in proprietary codecs and 3D gaymen.
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How is it going /g? I just bought an X230 for 110 USD. Would you guys say this is a good deal?
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>>62257724
We wanted something without botnet, a 4:3 screen, and no clunky trackpad, and that was actually built to vintage quality.

Lelnovo listened to their marketing jews and not /g/ and we're not buying it.
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>>62258816
if it's in good condition ya
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If I made an adapter that allows you to use m.2 ssd's in your express card slot, would you guys buy it?
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>>62259080
Sure why not.
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What is the average battery life for Thinkpads with stock batteries like the T430
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>>62259080
nice try chill
why don't you tell your boss to make it and see how it goes
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>>62259080
make it atleast two or more m.2 slots and have a external power slot in case if the system loses power it can continue writes

just like a raid controller
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>>62259231
as long as your battery isn't completely dead then a laptop should never suddenly lose power...
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>>62259241
please /v/ dont pretend only laptops have access to express slots
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>>62259254
forgive me I must have taken a wrong turn looking for the thinkpad thread
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>>62259276
youre limiting only yourself
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Plasti Dipped the lid of my T420s, forgive me /tpg/ for I have sinned. Pic related.
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Is this any good Look at this on eBay ebay.com/itm/141850139747
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What's the difference between x250 and x250 20cl?
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why does it say to only buy a pre-lenovo thinkpad

every thinkpad i see online to buy are lenovo, and im not going to buy a fucking brick
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What thinkpad should i get for anime?
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>>62259792
not really

>>62259810
very old advice
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>>62259424
Is it worth it? I like to customize my devices by putting stuff like carbon fiber wraps, and that looks pretty good. I might get some to put on a crack on the corner of my t420 because it'd be better than carbon fiber wrap.
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How can I get rid of screen tearing on Arch with xfce4? T420
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I wanted to make my Thinkpad a bit more mine. I was going to put one or two linux-themed stickers on it as well but I liked the way it looked with just this one.
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>>62259080
I absolutely would
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>>62259965
x200
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>>62259965
The one that will explode right in your pedo hands.
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>>62260086
>I'm a pedo! Look at me everyone! I'm a pedo! PEDO!
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>>62260122
like cum explode?
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>>62260120
Reasons why? I was actually just looking at that one on ebay except the tablet version. Is 75 dollarinos a decent price?
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>>62260018
what would u recommend? i dont need it for gaming just HD movies and work
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>>62260137
>>62260122
nice samefag
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>>62260152
It depends what you're gonna be doing. the x200 has a core 2 duo which isn't really good for much.
So if you're streaming video definitely don't get that. You're going to want something with a slightly newer processor.

I just found this
It's more than enough fucking buy it dude\
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Intel-Core-i5-2520M-2-5GHz-2GB-RAM-12-5-/311948587545?hash=item48a195b219:g:XvQAAOSwU2VZpObD
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New OP > old OP.
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Can I run Gamecube games on a W500?
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>>62260058
Ye, the finish is pretty similar color wise. It's rough, but if you know how to you can make it smooth. Definitely more premium feeling than a wrap in my opinion.
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>>62260140
Also look at the items in the listing
You're gonna need to buy some extra parts for it but it is a baseline model that you'll be able to upgrade as you need to.
Alternatively give yourself some more time to purchase. These kinds of deals pop up all the time.
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>>62259810
Minly the combination of Chinese and Intel botnet.
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>>62260380
Can't you circumvent the Intel botnet with Libreboot?
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>>62260447
With certain laptops in certain configurations...
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>>62260182
C2D does fine with streaming movies, just not streaming VP8/VP9.
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>>62260122
>>62260137
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>>62255588
BUMP
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What would you do with a budget of around 1300? Can I get a respectable thinkpad new for that? The t470 looks quite nice and I like the option for dat extra battery. What would you guys buy? Never owned a thinkpad before and am unsure about the differences between the different series'. What's best for a student who plans on doing absolutely no gaming on this machine.
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>>62260771
just look on the wiki anon, the weight is listed there
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>>62260798
$100 T420 and $1200 worth of doujinshis
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>>62260798
Used Thinkpad, if you're not gaymen then an older machine will do just fine.

Use that money to get laid.
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>>62260798
>new
Pls no, just get a T420,430,440p or their X variants if you want a smaller machine.

>>62260813
>Use that money to get laid
>3dpd whores
throwing your money into the trash would be a better investment
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>>62260845
Stop masturbating.
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Is there any reason that not having the cover to the RAM on my x220 on or screwed in would prevent my keyboard from turning on? I know it's a dumb question but I'm desperate
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How upgradable is the t470s? looking at getting putting in my own RAM instead of paying out the ass for lenovo to do it for me
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>>62260813
Is the battery life acceptable on older models? Are new battery units still made for them?
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>>62255791
She's ugly as fuck and disgusting
Post better Asian girls
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>>62256293
This. X220, got a dock with it when I bought it on eBay. Dock is great, it's almost like I bought a cheap desktop!
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>>62260798
Honestly it really goes without saying that people love the older Lenovo ThinkPads. Some people will say the IBM ones are the best but they are getting too weak to recommend anymore. Of course you could do things like browse the web, write documents and probably stream some basic videos decent enough. But those systems are sometimes limited to 32-bit only OS's, which is not ideal moving forward. The Lenovo ThinkPads, especially the ones with the classic keyboards are the best bang for the buck. The X220/230 or T410/420/430 are probably recommended the most. Go with the X if you want portability and a smaller, more lightweight laptop and the T series for something a bit bigger but a bigger screen and more options for drives.

I think you could get a really good laptop, even if it seems old. My X200T is still very usable and it's almost 10 years old. I can have lots of tabs open in my browser, downloads are very quick, youtube has no problems up to 720p(no 1080 p screen so there is no point in watching with that setting). Plus I can draw on it and it shows no signs of lag or anything. This is all with Linux. Windows might be a bit slower since Windows can be a resource hog.
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Surface 3 gaining on thinkpad
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>>62260896
Yes and yes
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Surface 3 has micro usb charging, much faster with high watt charger
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>>62260861
that image isn't very convincing
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>>62256131
>they eat the poopy
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>>62257417
cool and nice
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I am looking to buy an x220, what is the highest end it had and can it support 32 gb of ram?
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>>62261068
fuck meant to say highest end cpu it had, i7 wise obviously but what specific i7 was the highest it was offered with?
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>>62261068
idk it's on the wiki thouggh
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>>62260908
>Some people will say the IBM ones are the best but they are getting too weak to recommend anymore. Of course you could do things like browse the web, write documents and probably stream some basic videos decent enough. But those systems are sometimes limited to 32-bit only OS's, which is not ideal moving forward.
32-bit OS's will be with us for a very long time anon. Maybe not Windows but Linux and BSD will be available in 32-bit flavors for a long time.

One of the major advantages is the better security that comes from a backdoor-free computer. With things getting weird and the control grid visibly dropping around us at a faster rate each day, it might be nice to have a computer that is somewhat immune to this.

That being said, of course a newer faster computer will play higher-resolution streaming videos and such (if you rip a video with youtube-dl even 1080 will play fine on a Pentium M with decent software) and be able to run newer games.

For shitposting, office duties, emulation gaming, and so forth an older machine is perfectly decent.

For a lot of people the cutoff is when they took the good keyboards out, other stuff seems to be secondary. One of my primary reasons for liking older machines is they still came with matte displays.
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>>62261068
>can it support 32 gb of ram?
Highest the X220s go is 8GBs. Why would you need 32GBs of RAM in a ThinkPad?
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>>62261068
>>62261139
it can take 16GB

>>62261077
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X220

lists all the options, it was only offered with dual-core i7's so there isn't really that much performance over the i5's
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>>62261158
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OOAAAOSwAypZrgpW/s-l1600.jpg based upon this image, what model cpu does this have, i assume that the model number can help. it says it is 2.8ghz so i would assume it is the i7 2640 which is the highest end cpu it had but they dont specifiy which i7 it actually has.
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>>62261192
never mind it literally says in the image of the pc specs, fuck me.
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Is anyone willing to do a size comparison of the x220 to some everyday objects. I am looking to get one as a small thing i can abuse and easily carry. Maybe size it next to a beer can, gun, apple, etc. It has a 12.5 in display but pics make it seem pretty large still.
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>>62261192
you can put the serial number in here
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/?menu-id=Technical_Support
and it will give you all of the specs that it came with, more reliable because sellers are sometimes dumb

you can also get the serial number from BIOS pictures
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>>62261269
if you can't tell the notebook says it's 10.5" x 8"
so if you have a normal piece of paper then it's about that big
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>Recommended models:
T60, T61, X60, X61, 860, Transnote, PC110

These are the best ones ????
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>>62261841
>PC110
you do realize its not actually serious.
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>>62257417
>1280x800

X200?
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>order new keyboard for T440s
>this happens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYRcIHQc4o8


Is my keyboard DoA? the old one worked fine, but it had the Enter key ripped off so I needed to buy a new one.
The new keyboard works fine except for both Shift keys... in Linux, in Windows, in BIOS.. .anywhere.

The old keyboard was an ISO layout keyboard and the new one is an ANSI one, but that shouldn't matter, right?
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I'm ordering a 2017 X1 Carbon in a few days. Does anyone have experience with Linux on it?
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>>62257143
use it to work on my car (manuals, changing code for some microcontroller projects I have in it, etc.).
tablet is nice to read .pdf manuals on.
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>>62257417
>C&C95
>tibsun
>red alert
my man
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>>62261087
>One of the major advantages is the better security that comes from a backdoor-free computer. With things getting weird and the control grid visibly dropping around us at a faster rate each day, it might be nice to have a computer that is somewhat immune to this.
This is why I fell for the thinkpad meme. Just got my first one the other day, x220 tablet. Waiting on an x60 and x200.
Never know when you need to go full meshnet.
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>>62261192
2.8 will be the 2640. Thinkpad wiki only lists the 2620 which is wrong, a few of them came with the 2640.
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tfw kind of want a thinkcentre
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>>62262465
thinkpad newfag, wtf is this
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>>62261872
But I really really want one, it's super cute.
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What's some good but not so expensive 16gb RAM for the x230?
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>>62256192
I use one at work, I have nice cable management going to it and it's really tidy and practical. OCD intensifies
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>>62262499
Google thinkcentre
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>62256106
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>>62257143
Play games
Watch anime
Shitpost on /tpg/
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>>62257724
If I wanted a (((retro))) thinkpad I'd rather buy a T70 anon which is sold by a real company who understands what the IBM build quality is and what's so good about thinkpads rather than the one who made the thinkpad name into "laptops with clits"
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>>62255705
>>near retina screen
HD screen in the era of x40 might be true statement but not now, not even 2014

Have you done any screen replacements or something ?

If thats the case any guidelines I should look for?
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>>62255705
>>62263114
Yep. Nowhere near retina. According to Wikipedia, a laptop screen that is viewed from 2ft distance needs at least 273PPI for an individual with 20/20 vision not to be able to tell individual pixels apart. A 12in 1024x768 screen equals roughly 100PPI.

I did the math yesterday. The pixel size of an X40 viewed from a distance of 63mm makes for roughly 95 arc seconds on the retina. For a person with 20/20 vision individual pixels must be smaller than 60 arc seconds to be indistinguishable.
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>>62263211
>distance of 63mm
63cm of course. that's the distance I measured myself when using a laptop
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>>62259080
>>62259231
>>62260103
>>62259152
>putting my expensive memory into slot bottlenecked to 500 mb/s (pcie 2.0 x1)
>Not realizing expresscard actually doesn't have a locking mechanism so there's a chance it might fall out
Don't waste your time
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>>62259157
4 hours on 6 cell
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>>62259424
>he didn't black out lelnovo logo
It's fine other than that
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Does the X61t use the same batteries as the regular X61?
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>>62256131
who cares senpai.
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>>62263292
Gays = SJWs = oppression.
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Can i run 4k videos 60fps in my 220x?
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>>62257143
Break into the neighbours' wifi and shitpost in their router logs.
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>>62259424
I can't even tell. It just looks like a brand new more recent gen thinkpad finish. I guess that means you did a very good job anon.
Link me to the plasti dip you used.
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Are the infographs outdated for pricing? I remember buying my T420 for only $110ish (though it was only 4GB and came with only a 320ish GB HDD), but I still feel that's pretty cheap. Or did I just get lucky?
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>>62263645
I just checked... on YouTube at least.

It can run 4K30fps with minimal problems.
4K60fps stutters a bit. Not constantly, but consistently with enough frequency to make it untenable.
For the record I'm watching this with 10 other tabs open, discord and a mail client.
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>>62263645
why do you want to run 4k on a 720p screen?
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needs more trannies
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>>62264166
no?
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>>62264535
yes
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>>62264566
then deliva
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>>62264660
i aint no tranny, i just like feminine dick
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>>62260075
https://askubuntu.com/questions/850225/screen-tearing-in-xubuntu-no-problem-with-ubuntu
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>>62263645
Some guy said he could with custom gpu drivers
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>>62261284
Goddamnit.
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>>62263252
I was going to but it just looked unfinished without both logos.
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>>62263870
It isn't permanent by any means, but I don't mind redoing it until I develop a quick and easy method to get it done.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Plasti-Dip-Spray-Black-11203-6/21015329
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>>62255360
>carrying around a literal server rack
11/10
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>>62265382
>not carrying a server rack and pic related at all times to stay connected to home computer via cable
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>>62256540
WHAT IN THE EVERLOVING FUCK
DOES THE 420s HAVE SOME SORT OF HEAT MANAGEMENT PROBLEM?
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>>62265259
You're only supposed to do the Lenovo one anyway
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>>62257143
Shitpost, forget to opsec, re-shitpost, and break my T410 and E1505
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>>62265678
Pic related
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>>62257143
Can't wait for my X61t. It's gonna be my first 4:3 laptop in 8 years. DOS games will be so glorious on this.
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>>62257143
Research hermetic magic and conspiracies
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>>62265523
Pretty sure that's a problem with most if not all slimline laptops.
The extra fraction of an inch really does help.
Thank god I went with the base dankpad model.
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>>62257258
Honestly they're fine for normie tasks. The only issue is heat dissipation issues can lead to bottlenecking if the laptop's cooling system is inadequet. This is a case on any laptop but with a low powered cpu like c2duo they can potentially avoid the mess
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>>62265694
The yoga, what's it like?
That's a strong juxtaposition there between old and new.
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>>62265823
It's nice, but not $1800 nice, and CERTAINLY NOT $2500 NICE (FUCK my uni's official computer shop, $800 for 3 years of warranty.) I bought it for the multi-touch 1440p display, and while the display is nice, the same effect can be achieved with a $300 X220t or X230t. Both of the X-Series tablets have matte screens while the P40 has a glossy screen, so if you don't like glossy screens then the P40 should be a pass for you..
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