Switching back over to Linux after I realize there are no games

>sort applications by name
>everything listed in "K"
pretty sure it's always been a joke

>>62209136

despite what everyone tells you, KDE is a piece of shit DE

>>62209136
>Kubuntu
There's your mistake. Either use Arch or KDE Neon

>>62209136
I like KDE, it's something I don't need to setup and fiddle around with too much.
I personally use Xfce on most machines though since KDE isn't all that lightweight/configurable.
Plasma 5.10 is comfy though, I set a global menu up top and a dock to the bottom of the screen for a mac-esque feel.

What builds of KDE are everyone using that gives them the bugs? I've had no issues and everything just werks when I use it. I'm planning on switching to it fulltime, so.

>>62209136
Pretty sure KDE is available on Mint. No interest in trying it, though, because my computer isn't THAT old.

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OP

>Install KDE Neon
>Nothing breaks
>Not a mess of redundant applications like Kubuntu

*shrug*

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>>62209136
>there are no games I can play on Windows that I can't play on Linux
there are actually quite a few games you can play on Windows that you can't play on Linux

>>62209136
Werks on my machinery

>>62209894
name one

None that I want to play, I meant. Also got excit

>>62209136
>Is KDE just a big fucking joke or what?
Pretty much. It's a literal clusterfuck both on the development end and the interface side of things. I mean, features are cool, and all that, but it's like they just threw a bunch of shit together and never worked out the bugs.

>>62209907
GTA 5

>>62209907
wow you got me, I just looked into it it turns out that Linux plays all the games, sorry for spreading FUD without researching myself

what games do you play OP?

>>62209740
This^
Just use Neon.

>>62209948
Mostly emulation, recently got back into Fallout New Vegas after 4 turned out to be as deep and sophisticated as piss on a carpet. Enjoying Super Monkey Ball and 0 AD right now. Roguelikes are also always a blast, and the new ARK looks outstanding.

Everything else is a waste of time.

>>62209136
>KDE
OP this DE is shit. I hate KDE so much. It is the DE that is known for being an broken unstable shitfest.

You know, when KDE 4 replaced KDE 3, it was the most broken unusable piece of shit imaginable. But finally over the years they FINALLY got KDE 4 in a working state where it felt solid and stable, and guess what happened? They IMMEDIATELY switched to KDE 5 / Plasma. A broken piece of shit. Why do the devs do this?

>>62209894
I think he meant out of the games that he plays. That's the case for me anyways

>>62210087

they still can't figure out how to get decent looking fonts out of the box on almost all distros, so it's no fucken surprise

>>62209894
what is a vm with hardware passthrougj

>>62210205
Noticable performance drop

>>62209925
I use it on arch and haven't run into any bugs - fits my usage case extremely well.

>>62209136
>Is KDE just a big fucking joke or what?
Thanks for asking! Yes. It's a glitchy, bloated piece of garbage.

>>62210227
lying is a sin

>>62210269
I don't believe in the concept of sinning.

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>>62210273

>>62209740
>>62210050
I don't understand the neon recs, I would think it's LESS stable than plasma.

>>62210273
You don't believe in wrongness? it's mostly the same.

>>62210280
>everything I don't agree with is edgy

>>62209136
>Kubuntu
Found the problem.

>not using XFCE

>>62209894
>being this autistic

>>62209366
lmao I remember this

KDE and XFCE are fucking hideousity by default.

If Bungie can look as inoffensive as it does out of the box, no excuse for these other memes.

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>>62209136
>error messages everywhere, everything keeps fucking breaking
It's because of this piece of shit right here. Don't bother with Konquer, Kmail, kontacts ktorrent, or akregator, they are shit and some of them are basically abandoned .

The real reason though is that they rely on Akonadi and it's a buggy shitty "integration subsystem" (aka botnet) that will make your expereince overly complicated and confusing. If you want to use KDE and ahave control over data at the same time, avoid that trash Akonadi.


Once XFCE finally gets developers and becomes up-to-date, I'll have no need for KDE Plasma any longer. Until then, I need it at least on my laptop since XFCE4's power manager rapes the battery by cycling it on and off when on AC.

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>>62210227
There's no performance degradation.
8 runs terrible in a VM, 10 a little off, 7 is bare metal performance and has slightly better single threading and disk calls when virtualized especially on a kernel tuned for maximum juice like fedora.

>>62210418
Agree completely, but at least XFCE functions. And it can look fucking great with some ricing

>>62209136
>install Kubuntu
That's where you fucked up.

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>mfw I really like KDE

>>62210205
An overly-complicated waste of time. Literally just have a separate PC you use solely for gaming if you play them so damn much. I have a separate fully offline Windows 7 machine just for games and I literally only turn it on once or twice a month yet it takes seconds to get up and running perfectly as opposed to hours dicking around with QEMU shit.

>>62210205
running Windows in a VM with gpu passthrough is a completely different game. That's you having fun hacking around, but a pretty weird way of getting something simple done. It's substantially easier to set up a dual boot than a gpu passthrough, it's very easy for most computer enthusiasts to scrape together 500 dollars to buy a windows only computer if you don't want to taint your linux machine, and lastly it's just using the wrong tool for the job. It's like you need to dig a hole, you use a shovel... but you don't like shovels (?) so you take two of those toy robot hands to hold the shovel and then pretend that you're not actually using a shovel

>>62210436
>don't have to be a cuck
>Steam botnet basically required to play most modern games
Yes goyim, Steam is your friend!

>>62209136
>>dpi=2
lolwat?

For some reason I sometimes get this issue where DPI defaults to retarded values on new Linux installs with Nvidia. You can write an nvidia xorg config file that includes a dpi value and that will fix it.

>>62209728
KDE is not a DE. Not anymore, at least. KDE is now the name of the project, Plasma is the DE (kind of like the relationship between Microsoft and Windows).

>>62209366
This has gotten better now that they've made their code more modular. At least now you can install individual KDE apps without having to install the entire KDE ecosystem.

Just for the record, I use xfce on my system.

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>>62209136
That's because Kubuntu is a fucking mess, it also made me hate KDE
Using KDE Neon right now, works great

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>>62209740
>Arch
Use void

>>62210436
Nah i've found gaming in VM to be a surprisingly subpar experience.

>>62211652
That's because you're either retarded or something of the sort

>>62209740
>>62211597
>>62209886
>>62210050

How about FUCK KDE Neon, so dumb they cannot lock down their server so anyone can upload to it..

https://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20161114-1.txt

>>62211688
holy shit!

>>62211608
>bsd meme license
lmao, enjoy your 0 users

>>62209136
I used to love KDE and used it to the point where I could not use any other distro. However once I was forced to use gnome and it just blew me, how easier and more simple things are over there.

>>62209136
Never had a problem with KDE on Arch. Pick a better distro.

>>62211608
Last time I checked, void only had kde 4 in repos

>Is KDE just a big fucking joke or what?

Yes, its bloated piece of shit and no one should use it.

>>62211937
Not a void user but that made me lol so I looked around their site.

>Aside of that I think most Void users are leaning towards tiling window managers in general, hence little to no interest for packaging it.
https://forum.voidlinux.eu/t/installation-of-kde-plasma-5/199/14
https://github.com/voidlinux/void-packages/pull/5316#issuecomment-323552973

tl;dr: Void users only like autistic WMs and there's no official support for Plasma 5. However you can install it from source if you want to.

>>62209136
>>62209740
The best KDE experience is on openSuse.
When I tried KDE on Arch it was really slow. On OpenSuse everything was working out of the box and the lag was gone.
Arch > OpenSuse, though

>>62211994
>no official support for Plasma 5
I'm not a Void user either, but the source based installation of packages in addition to the binary packages is a key point of Void.
So it is officially supported,but not available as a binary package.

>>62212085
Works on my Arch™ Linux® machine.

KDE is okay, but it sucks ass on nvidia because the developers are literally linus cock sucking faggots who say fuck nvidia

Plasma without PIM/Akonadi is kind of OK. I don't know if binary distros allow you to not install them but it's easy on Gentoo at least. It does feel less polished than Gnome though. eg. if I rotate my display the Plasma panel's position gets fucked up until I quit and restart plasmashell. Haven't had such problems on other DEs/WMs. That's especially true for Gnome which is really quite polished, although it too has its problems, eg. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745032 (lmao)

>>62212316
Nvidia is the only vendor with special snowflake apis in their official drivers, the rest uses mesa

>>62209136
KDE is sluggish bug riggen bloatware.

>>62211916
>Any other Distro
:/

>>62209136
KDE is very understaffed I believe, so no wonder bugs are getting through.

>>62209136
ubuntu is special because it often gets broken packages in the freeze but never ever fucking fixes them
use opensuse/fedora/neon

>>62209740
>>62210050
KDE Neon is the most unstable KDE distro. And KDE devs didn't implement a proper crash reporter so good luck having your crashes fixed anytime soon.

>>62209136
KDE has some very good features but the design is very poor. It looks tacky and there's no consistency or design basis.

Just look at that OP screenshot - everything has this 'copy/paste in to the GUI' thing going about it. It's like they forgot to design the thing and it's an afterthought.

As an owner of a QEMU Passthrough machine, these anons are correct

Fuck it

>>62213064
I meant to quote

>>62210980
>>62211049

Tell me about it. I've been raging at Mint KDE for days, there is unrelenting screen tearing and performance issues (especially scrolling in Firefox and lag in all videos including VLC and youtube). Honestly I've given up. Windows may be spying me but at least it werks, besides, on Windows I'd be able to tell if somehow I got a malware, on Linux since I'm a complete lazy faggot I wouldn't even notice, most likely (also on Linux I can't seem to find a reliable way to encrypt my drive, so much for security, if niggers break into my house and steal my PC I could buy a new PC but I couldn't buy back my stolen data).

>>62213093
1. You can encrypt your disk
2. You should enable the compositor, or change compositor settings. This will remove screen tearing.

>>62213114
>1. You can encrypt your disk
How? I was only offered the option to encrypt my home folder, too bad doing that broke the ability for the system to resume from hibernation permanently.
>2. You should enable the compositor, or change compositor settings. This will remove screen tearing.
You missed the part where I said I tried for days. I copypasted all sort of shit off Google but nothing worked. And this is on a desktop GTX1060, not some nigger tier hybrid laptop GPU.

>>62209136

>Is KDE just a big fucking joke or what?

Yes. It's basically Windows 10 re-imagined as a Desktop Environment, fucking eats memory and cpu and also crash-prone.

The Gnome guys can fuck their userbase over with every release and never have to worry about losing users to KDE, that's how bad it is.

>>62209136
So you only play minecraft?
Because so far pretty much every other game either doesn't work with wine or runs at 1% performance

>>62213093
about:support is compositing enabled for Firefox? It isn't by default for Linux although some distros enable it
layers.acceleration.force-enabled;true

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>>62210081
>Implying that vidia games are not waste of time in general.
>>62210436
>Implying that you are not cuck for installing Steam on a last ethical OS out there.

>>62209728
>>62209740
This. I think Gnome is >>>> KDE, but if you're going to use KDE do it on a real distro, not memebuntu.

>>62209882
Nigger what are you talking about? KDE is a heavy environment.

>still no properly packaged DE with tiling window manager

guarantee the first person to make this properly will be successful

>>62213233
Everything is a waste of time considering that you only live once and everything you have ever done will not be remembered

>>62213179
I run league of legends under wine at higher performance than I do on windows. Between 180-90 FPS on windows, stable 250+-300 on wine.

>>62213284
Tell that to Alexander the great.

>>62209136
KDE is pretty good. Stop using Kubuntu.

Don't fall for the Gnome meme. It's literally just a basic wm that eats a gig of memory for no reason.

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>>62213310
Let's see how great he is once the universe has run its cycle and is extinguished

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>>62213297
>league of legends
Wow, it's fucking nothing, try running a game that actually uses any resources

>>62213179
I play Warcraft 3 and WoW. They work perfectly under wine.
>1% performance
The performance loss is around 0-20% for dx9 and older games.
DOOM actually performs better in WINE than natively on windows.

>>62213208
Yes, I tried that too, same with hw acceleration, and adding all kinds of additional lines off Google to the nvidia configuration file. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. I think I'm going to reinstall or move to Cinnamon, or Ubuntu.

>>62213341
>try playing unoptimized garbage games
Not an argument.

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>>62213353
>I can play games from 1995 with good performance, linux is good I swear!

>>62213366
>my computer is shit, therefore the game is unoptimized
Nice try, lincuck, but you can't steer from the fact that your operating system is trash

>>62213373
>DOOM
>1995
It was literally released last year, idiot.

>wc
>wow
>1995
Your underage is showing.

>>62213323
I don't understand your argument, of course a game is going to run worse if you have to emulate an entire OS to run it, that's not the fault of the operating system (which in case of nearly every native port runs BETTER than windows native) it's the fault of developers. Jesus man, are you okay? I gave league as an example because it's the only game I play that doesn't have a native linux port.

>>62209136
finally a thread on leenux and not one thread about gaymmur intel vs amd vs nvidia shillfest

>>62213384
>wut is a hyperbol ? ? ?
Brainlet detected, please uninstall your life from this universe

>>62213411
Except for the fact that games that have a linux port still run worse than they do on windows
Until you get actual professionals working on Linux instead of some retards that just cobble together random lines of code, it will never be good enough
I mean fuck, you can't even install 90% of programs on Linux without going through a metric fuckton of shit and piss

>>62213093
Don't use VLC, it's shit now, MPV on the other hand, is far better, I have no screen tearing or any other bullshit with MPV, the /g/reatest video player.

>>62213384
ignore the winfags, the day of the gnulag awaits them, tell them GNO and move on.

>>62209136
i had same problems with ubuntu
if you want distro with KDE and apt use KDE Neon

or try arch with KDE (just dont say its buggy because i use it for like a year now 0 problems)
or go with antergos KDE and debloat him to be near pure arch

>>62213455
Which games run worse? The native ports I have (CSGO and Dota 2) both run far better under the opensource AMDGPU drivers on Arch.

>>62209136
kde is absolutely fine, the problem is that you installed kubuntu. I dont know why but kuduntu devs are retarded and everytime they release new version its broken

Download mint kde and, its like kubuntu but with all the broken shit and errors fixed

>>62211916
Retards like you need only a few options

>>62209764
i use bunch of keyboard shortcuts and alt-tabing with kruner

so i only use top slim panel for clock and wifi/battery indicator

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>>62213528
>Works for me haha :)

>>62213564
I don't know man, your anecdotes are as good as mine, you won't even list any native ports that run worse on linux.

>>62213629
Both of which you just listed, numbnuts
I get over 200 frames on both on windows yet on Lincuck I barely got over 30 frames

>>62210287
The plasma desktop is developed by a project called KDE.
KDE makes some software, ubuntu takes the code from a ton of sources (including KDE's software) and then ships it to a ton of people.
Kubuntu is a distro that takes the ubuntu software and sets up a plasma desktop and makes some configurations to align it with the aims of ubuntu.
KDE neon is working directly with the KDE team, which means you get updates faster.

Stability in a software world means no change in functionality.
This means nothing will stop working if it was working when it was tested.
But if it wasn't working and there is a bug that requires new features to fix, it takes more time to fix.

People who use kubuntu find something that doesn't work and then blames KDE, but the issue might already be fixed if they had used neon.
If you choose the git-unstable version you are asking for problems, but using the stable branch is fine.
I believe that the KDE suite improves over time, and the only way to get these improvements is to update it.

>>62213455
so what!?!?!?! still using linux instead of windows

>>62213650
Then you must be a fucking brainlet who can't install drivers. The ports are basically on-par.

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>>62209136
XFCE and LXDE are really just that based.

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>>62213713
>Works for me haha :^)))
Face it, anon, your operating system is trash and pretty much good for nothing but browsing the internet
Fuck, even doing anything with text editors is hell on earth because all the keybinds are cryptic as fuck and there is literally zero documentation about any of them, so programming is a no-go
But don't worry, maybe one day GNU/Linux will grow up to be a big boy once Stallman dies and someone with actual competence takes over

>>62213528
on my hardware dota runs better on linux than win

its 60fps but on windows i it drops to 40 when we are in base

>>62213756
low IQ detected pls go to facebook

>>62209136
nobody cares you whiny noob cunt

>>62213756
U fukn wot m8? If you're going to talk shit about Linux at least list actual faults, not issues that stem from you being too retarded to use it.
>I couldn't figure out how to install my graphics drivers, therefore games run like shit on Linux REEEEE
>I can't work out the keybinds for text editors and don't know how to google, therefore they suck! REEEEE

>>62213848
>lmao u cant figur out how 2 instal driver xDD
Except Linux automatically does it for you, retard

>le google xDDDD
If you have to refer to the entire fucking internet to learn how a text editor works instead of simple documentation that comes with it, it's trash
And with that same argument, the entirety of Linux is trash, go figure

>>62214163
>Except Linux automatically does it for you, retard
Yeah wow, you actually are retarded. Linux(babby distros like Ubuntu)installs the bare minimum open source driver (radeon if you've got an amd card) you need to replace it with either AMDGPU or AMDGPU-PRO(proprietary) if you want actual performance. Brainlet confirmed.

>>62209136
I never managed to like KDE
I like gnome, despite how it's somehwat bloated, it looks good and consistent, and most of the applications I use are in a terminal anyway
The bloat doesn't bother me too much since the two machines I use a GUI on have intel i7s and 16 or 32G of RAM. And since one is a laptop gnome makes a lot of that easier, like special keys,
I run XFCE on a virtual XRDP terminal server, but obviously you do not have to worry about the hardware things there unlike a laptop.
other than that everything else runs without X, which you might as well do if you don't use graphical applications.

>>62214352
Well guess what
[spoiler]It worked for me, faggot :)[/spoiler]

>>62214462
Nice argument I guess, believe whatever you want. You were too retarded to set up drivers and drew conclusions from that. You're beyond saving.

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>>62214474
>projecting this hard
I'm terribly sorry that you were dropped on your head at birth, anon, but not everyone has had to suffer the same fate as you

>>62213169
>fucking eats memory
It uses less than half the memory of Gnome.

I'd just like to interject for a moment.

What you're referring to as KDE, is in fact, KDE Plasma, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Plasma shell. KDE is not a desktop environment unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Plasma desktop made useful by the KDE Frameworks, Applications and Qt libraries comprising a full DE.

Many computer users run a version of the Plasma desktop every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Plasma which is widely used today is often called KDE, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Plasma desktop, developed by the KDE project.

There really is a KDE, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. KDE are the frameworks: the libraries in the system that provide UI and desktop functions to the other programs that you run. The framework is an essential part of a desktop environment, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete desktop environment. KDE Applications are normally used in combination with the Plasma desktop shell: the whole desktop environment is basically the Plasma shell that makes use of the KDE Frameworks. The so-called KDE desktop environment is really Plasma desktop shell.

>>62214163
>installs literal retard distro for retards
>can't even use it
anon, I...

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>>62214778
>installs literal retard distro for retards
A redundant statement given that Linux is made for literal retards

>>62210205
Not playing games on Linux.

>>62214814
>he thinks he's being clever but he's actually confirming how unbelievably stupid he is.

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>>62214904
>I can't accept that my operating system of choice is shit so I'll project my failures unto someone else in an attempt to display myself as a victor
What a fucking beta you are

>>62209366
>search for "Terminal" for 5 minutes
>it's Konsole
Kubuntu should die in mortal kombat

>>62213756
>But don't worry, maybe one day GNU/Linux will grow up to be a big boy once Stallman dies and someone with actual competence takes over
/v/scum in a nutshell.

Why KDE feels so unresponsive? It's more lightweight than Gnome but it seems that everything has a bit of a lag to it.
Or is it just me?

SO WHAT FUCKING DE AM I SUPPOSED TO USE? Sorry for yelling but what can even compete with KDE??? You all say Gnome is trash, XFCE is outdated and everything else is a meme. Tell which is objectively best DE technically wise. I want something with the least vsync jitter.

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>>62210980
Hard to setup and a non gratis solution I agree, but I wouldn't call it a waste of time.
I find it handy. Dual booting is a pain in the ass since I have to reboot the PC when switching and can't do jack shit while windows is updating.
With a VM I could mess around on my host OS switching back and forth on a whim regardless of the VM's state.
That way all my main activity email client, torrent client, browsing, etc... is contained in one place on my preferred working environment without rebooting while windows VM is used for a few select applications for compatibility reasons whenever I want without breaking workflow.

>>62209894
BILL COME BACK PLEASE

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>>62214989
Big fat lie detected. If you type for "terminal" in the menu the it gives you konsole as the first or one of the first results.

>>62215265
Gnome is the future (like it or not).
KDE is going to be bankrupt and finished in a couple of years. It's already abandonware town with most of their applications.

>>62211688
True but this was a lot ago, got fixed and it has been fine since them.

>>62215463
>Gnome is the future (like it or not).
Because its default desktop in Ubuntu now? So should i just install Ubuntu Kubuntu, Xubuntu and other shit?

>>62209136
Kubuntu relies on backport ppas to fix the version of QT and Plasma 5 it can run.
The Kubuntu team do their best, but the limitations of what packages make it into Ubuntu really fuck them over.
When you try out a Plasma 5 distro, pay attention to what version it is compared to the latest release out. Chances are the bugs you're running into have been fixed.

>>62214989
krunner searches on desktop files, including the comment, program name etc.
If you can't type for some reason, the applications are categorized in the menu.
If that didn't work, the first results in any search engine could tell you.
Spending 5 minutes because you don't know anything about gnu/linux is on you.

>>62215332
tutorial please

KDE is a buggy piece of steaming shit.

>>62210205
That's using Windows while pretending you use linux.

>>62215265
To be honest in my experience the best DE was Unity. You can still use it with Ubuntu LTS which is perfect for home use. After that it will get Gnome, which is the future and its not that bad, my only concern is that the animations lag even on a machine that can run Unity or KDE Plasma completely lagfree. I hope the Gnome devs will work on it, then it will be perfect. Until then, Unity

>>62215463
Free software doesn't need people to use it, it needs people to develop it.
I would personally never use gnome, I can't stand the mentality that the users should not know about the system.
The system should be good for the powerusers as they are the only ones who matter.
People like you will never use gnu/linux anyway.

>>62215678
this tutorial should cover the basics.
>https://www.evonide.com/non-root-gpu-passthrough-setup/
The arch wiki is a more thorough reference once you get the hang of it.

There should be simpler guides out there that use the virt manager GUI instead of writing your own QEMU script.
Maybe have a look at one of the level1 or other videos on youtube on setting it up.

If you are looking to set up a device like HTC vive which uses more than 4 USB devices then you will need to passthrough a USB controller as well since QEMU has a limit of 4 USB devices passed through individually by device ID passing through a USB controller bypasses that limitation.

>>62215332
>wanting to break some anon's neck

>>62215768
Unity felt like a locked down gnome3 and I didn't even like gnome3.
The search is really bad, the hotkey system is really bad, the application switcher is really bad.
I don't see what was good about it.

>>62216004
I liked Unity's look and performance and I didnt have any problems with the things you said. In the end it's personal preference unfortunately, it would be nice to have just one DE that pleases everyone.

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>>62215814
>Free software doesn't need people to use it, it needs people to develop it.
looks like we got a new meme about FOSS here.
>People like you will never use gnu/linux anyway.
What do you mean? I should stop using my comfy openPEPE install now?

>>62216193
I don't care what you do

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>>62215835
there

>>62216244
just stop making assumptions about people you don't know.

>>62216290
Nah you're a stereotypical freetard.

>install KDE Neon after having enough with Gnome 3.24/3.26
>everything just werks
>KDE software actually has features unlike Gnome software
>actually have thumbnails in the file picker.

>>62216076
I have to use unity on a few systems at work where I can't touch the settings so I have to use the defaults.
Alt tap is grouped together, so if I use 3 terminals on the same desktop, I have to click around between them, because alt tab just hides them all.
The search is slow as fuck, doesn't give you relevant results and takes up a ton of screen space.
The menu search is kinda cool, but I don't know who would need to use this. Accelerators and hotkeys are far superior.

> it would be nice to have just one DE that pleases everyone.
I actually liked that about unity, you could instantly tell that they used ubuntu and if you had to, you could use the system.

I think having a standardized set of hotkeys makes sense, that way, I like that they do that through all ubuntu flavors

>>62216586
Wait for a few days until it starts crashing.

>>62215451
I can confirm this. Also, my plasma desktop never gives me any trouble.

>>62216662
and then update to make it go away.

>>62215083
The slow animations make it feel slow. Turn them off.

>>62209136
I was a GNOME user until GNOME 3. I was so disgusted, I had to force myself to switch to KDE. I've been using KDE ever since.

>>62215768
Agreed. Way better than Gnome, and to this day it still has killer features that no other DE has.

>>62216004
Locked down? It has way more features than Gnome

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>>62216004
>I don't see what was good about it.

The meme is that most packagers and distros don't ship KDE configured properly. The one time that KDE was usable for me long term was on Fedora. But it's safe to say that it's pretty unstable when compared to GNOME and XFCE. The real answer is that all DEs on loonigs is shit and if you want a 99.9% stable desktop experience you have to go with a standalone WM like i3 or a naked DE like LXDE, LXQT, and just maybe XFCE. Also, Ubuntu is so shit with handling two DEs coexisting on the same installation for some reason. Use Fedora or Debian.

>>62216694
>he thinks it will go away
It can't since they don't have a functional crash reporter.

>>62215265
XFCE

I already said that the searchable menu is a neat feature, but once you know where stuff can be found, discovering where they are is only something you do when you don't know the application.
Certain applications like gimp, inkscape meshlab comes to mind as applications that have a horrible menu system and where the search would be useful.

>>62209926
WINE

>>62217120
Why XFCE?

>>62217401
It's the boring DE. Thus it is also the best.

>>62217575
What does it use for composition?

>>62217588
A shitty compositor which has screen tearing on most modern hardware. But you can just sudo apt install a compositor you want and enable it on startup. This will take only 2 minutes after which you'll continue to use the most stable DE out there.

>>62217668
Should i delete the default one? Whats the best compositor in your opinion? Compton?

Should /g/ write a new desktop environment?

>>62213179
>he doesn't know about gallium nine

>>62209136
>using anything else than the default ubuntu desktop on ubuntu
>complaining
-_-
For KDE, go with Arch, or something else non-ubuntu.
>nvidia
kek

>>62217995
i've got some good logo ideas

>>62217995
Can we write it in Rust?

>>62218407
Show me.

>>62213297
>league of legends
Kill yourself, seriously.
>>62213353
>I play Warcraft 3 and WoW.
You also need to kill yourself.

>>62213297
>league of legends
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF FREETARDS

There is a reason nobody serious uses KDE by default, and no OpenSUSE doesn't count because if you buy SLES/SLED it comes with GNOME and KDE is not even packaged! Lmao!

>>62218664
delete this!

KDE Plasma works fine your problem is your hardware and/or Kubuntu. Try a different distro.

>>62215265
Cinnamon

>>62218598
MUH GAYMS ARE STUPEED XD

>>62218634
Freetards would play dota2 since it's native to Linux

>>62219257
Freetards are playing Battle of Wesnoth or OpenTTD

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I swore by LXDE until I recently installed Plasma, this shit is crispy as fuck, works great even on my shitty little $200 Acer laptop (I didn't mean it bby pls dont die on me i luv u), I love it.

>>62214163
vimtutor you fucking loser

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>>62215265
Properly configured XFCE is pretty good
i3wm (or any other tiling window manager) is maximum comfy
Budgie is also great and looks really nice out of the box, so just install solus

>>62219771
I just tried Xubuntu on liveusb after KDE Neon. Holy shit the desktop feels so smooth. Almost like on my Win7. In Neon the desktop feels so sluggish... XFCE tears hard out of the box though.
>i3wm (or any other tiling window manager) is maximum comfy
Im still too stupid for things like that.
>install solus
Inst it just a meme? Also what compositor do you use?

>>62218664
Yep, GNOME is backed by Redhat, SUSE, Canonical and Oracle. I don't know who backs KDE, apart from Qt receiving lots of enterprise backing.

>>62220251
Canonical is actually a negative in that regard as they are still heavily in debt and haven't made any money yet, the way they're doing they won't even be here in a few years.

>>62220341
Actually they got a nice check from MS so they're fine now.

>>62220376
I did not know this, I wonder what they wanted in return for the financial support?

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>>62220454

>>62220474
Deary me, what a conundrum.

>>62220474
This is literally useless

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>>62220641
Potentially

KDE and Qt in general is a joke.

Just use a window manager instead of a full fledged desktop.

openbox or i3wm

>>62211688
>One mistake from a long time ago that hasn't been a problem since then means the distro and company can never be trusted ever again

k

Why XFCE even tears? Why any DE even tears? Do system with wm only tear? I dont get it.

>>62209136
Ubuntu and KDE are both jokes.

Ditch your 'desktop environment' and run Windowmaker like a real man.

>>62221473
Configure your shit properly Pajeet.

>>62209136
I use KDE on Arch and it works.
Kubuntu is shit.

Try KDE neon if you want a easy to use KDE distro.

>>62221831
Windowmaker is the best WM.

>>62221831
>>62221831
You sir are a true god I thank you for your service to windowmaker

>>62221957
I think netrunner is a better implementation of kde, yeah yeah, I know neon is by the kde folks, but it feels kinda wonky to me. I guess because they shoehorned in a bunch of shit just to showcase everything

>>62221831
>windowmaker
faggot! jwm masterrace comin through

>>62221943
I dont really have this issue (only with XFCE), im just curious why that might happen.

>>62222077
Outdated compositor.

>>62218664

OpenSUSE fucks up their KDE anyways, kwallet is still fucked and demands to be unlocked at every login and networkmanager can't actually save any wifi passwords.

On GNOME you need root to enter a wifi password.

SUSE fucking blows.

>>62222221
Duuuuuuuuuuuude~