Since crypto miners bought all RX Vega i will have to buy a GTX

>>62165341
>Since crypto miners bought all RX Vega
no they didnt you troglodyte

>he's falling for the NVidia meme
GIMPWORKS™

>>62165367
show me an RX Vega for MSRP on a european website you dingus, or are you one of those miners that fucked themselves by ordering a ton of vegas to find out they are shit at mining

>>62165371
what is there to go for? atm i have a gtx 980 and the age is showing, is there a point in buying an RX 580 which is about on par with my gtx 980, AMD wont restock the vega any time soon

I bought 10x vega 64. mining at 37-41 Mh/s each card.

>>62165438
i hope bitcoin or etherum or whatever you are mining crashes really soon

Its either strix or the cheapest one like palit or zotac.

>>62165456
the strix is quite more costly than the gigabyte and the zotac mini is about a few bucks cheaper but i havent heard nice things about zotac

>>62165382
I had a 1070 and downgraded to a 980. Tbh it's not that good of an upgrade for you. What are you trying to play. I just got a 144hz monitor and the 980 can play games like far cry 4 at 90-120 fps ultra.

>>62165500
i want a multimonitor setup and i'd like to be futureproof the 980 is starting to sweat in my opinion

Vega is really good for minning. 35-38 Mhs/s @240W ~66ºC. gaymers btfo. HAHAHAHAHA

>>62165524
I think you should be aiming for at least a 1080. I'm not sure about euro prices but my 980 would probably resell for 200-220 and a 1070 is 450 (which is more then I paid for my g1 at launch). I would rather to to find a 1080 for like 550 at that price and get a real upgrade. Sucks how miners fucked everything up. Luckily for me the 980 still pounds through games that I play just fine.

>>62165524
So will 1070, it's barely an improvement.

My hope is that this RX Vega release takes some of the heat off demand so i'd be able to grab a "somewhat-reasonably-above-MSRP" Polaris card.

I belieeeve.

>>62165606
i was going to sell my 980 and pay for something else that doesnt concern pc hardware, i'd rather not spend all of it on a 1080

>>62165617
yea just about 30% improvement over my 980, its almost nothing

>>62165382
>gtx980
>age showing
Stop playing in 4K max settings 4xMSAA

In fact stop using MSAA altogether

https://www.computeruniverse.ru/products/90705878/powercolor-radeon-rx-vega-64-air-cooled-schwarz.asp

here is 64 for 550, feel free to buy one

>>62165691
i used an hp laptop for 9 years if i wanted to play on low med i wouldnt have build a pc like the one i did, i dont want to lower settings

>>62165450
Doesn't matter. Crashes are irrelevant for miners, as cryptocoin value is destined to pretty much only grow in the long run

shitposting aside, can ANYONE buy a graphics card right now? this is getting absurd

it's been months since there were any on the shelves at any of my local stores. They have some really shit-tier entry level cards which are marked up like 30% and that's it

>>62165709
MSAA kills any card dumbfuck
Literally just use SMAA
>>62165719
>buying PC parts locally

>>62165719
GTX 1080's are close to MSRP. They're pretty much the only non entry level card you can buy.

>>62165719
sure, where are you from?
We also didn't have any GPUs for about a month, now they are back.

>>62165730
>>buying PC parts locally
includes amazon shitforbrains

>>62165341
Don't get the 1070 and skip to the 1080 or 1080 Ti since the price difference isn't much. The price for the 1070 right now is inflated.

>>62165780
thing is i cant afford anything more than 20-40 eur price difference and i have to order from amazon.de or some other eu website that delivers europe wide otherwise charges hit like a fucking train

>>62165761
>includes amazon shitforbrains
What did he mean by this?

>>62165801
Then save up and use SMAA instead of MSAA you overgrown kid

>>62165816
unlike you i dont live with my parents i cant just sell my 980 and waste all the money on a 1080ti, the gigabyte G1 fits perfectly within my budget

>>62165825
I was trying to be helpful but your borderline clinically retarded ass just had to get triggered to no end, didn't it?

Then keeep being a good little wagecuck and waste all your money on a 1070 now and enjoy the 15-25% increase in performance lel

>>62165376
>buying from a europoor website
>he has that massive import tax

>>62165606
If you're talking about dollars though, 1070's are $380 not $450
A $550 1080 isn't bad though, just a $380 1070 is cooler

>>62165876
>import tax
Why is yurop so protectionist

>>62165876
no no you got me wrong i got a massive import tax if i order outside of the EU, if its in the EU i just get shipping charges, but if i order from lets say newegg i get fucked with 20

>>62165935
Your problem, not mine. You thought they wouldn't up their prices if they knew they'd still be cheaper than importing?

>>62165898
Where do you see 380. Cheapest I see is 430 before taxes that now apply to new york.

Didn't look very hard OP

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/powercolor-radeon-rx-vega-64-8gb-hbm2-pci-express-graphics-card-stand-alone-gx-18v-pc.html

>>62166215
or

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-64-8gb-hbm2-pci-express-graphics-card-stand-alone-gx-387-sp.html

btw they ship international

Literally just ordered a 1080 like in op

Lol do it

>>62166215
not to my country they dont

>>62166265
Have you asked? Someone from the US got one from there. Maybe you live in a shithole.

>actually wanting amd for gaming

>>62166279
i live in bulgaria, and some sites just dont ship there even though all amazons do and even newegg has a bulgarian version(but with the import charges i might aswell buy from EU)

>>62165341
>Since I'm an impatient cuck I'm going to buy an inferior product

>>62166376
Go by Eurostar to their store

>>62166395
I know, right? We already waited 18 months for AMD to make something comparable. What's another 6 months for prices to normalize and then another 6 months for them to ship drivers worth a shit?

Just Wait™

>>62166395
the 1070 is a damn good card, believe me i would love to have a vega but i cant wait for AMD to get up and make more

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>>62165341
>Buying a 1070 when a reference Vega 56 can be undervolted and OC'ed into trading blows with a 1080FE and Vega 64.
LMAO

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>>62166518
>posting single game benchmarks

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>>62166602

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>>62166602
>>62166617

>>62166617
>>62166626
How about another source

>we now live in a world where Nvidia is the price to performance king and Radeon is the luxury brand that you pay more for more features unreleated to gaming
What a strange timeline.

>>62166395
>wait for Vega
>wait for stock
>wait for mining to die
>wait for drivers
>wait for Navi
You know, some people actually want to buy a GPU now instead of waiting forever just to brag abouy their AMD build in Speccy threads.

>>62165341
1070 prices are also inflated by miners.
Go for 1080 for $50 more.

>>62165341
Go for EVGA, you will not regret it.

>>62166732
Yep

What is the best GPU for a 500w-rated 80+ PSU in terms of price, performance and looks?

>>62166960
For a normal amount of peripherals (so practicaly none except disks) 1070 or 1080 in terms of Perf/W

>>62166960
a gtx 1060, its instock everywhere because its not exactly good for mining

>>62167023
>>62167018
Well fuck me even the rog strix variant is almost reasonably priced

Does it make sense at all to upgrade to that from a Sapphire HD7850 2GB?

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>>62166960
What resolution?
the 1060 or 580 are the best price/perf, but with current messed up prices the 1080 or 1080ti are the only cards worth buying atm.
Most GPUs will do fine on a 500W PSU anyways:
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3036-how-far-can-450w-get-you-for-a-gaming-pc-wattage

>>62167048
yea i mean i think 2GB of vram arent enough today for high texture gaming so why not go with a 1060 if you want a solid 1080p experience

>>62166960
oh and also im selling my gtx 980 so if you are interested

>>62167185
Wanna trade it for a 7900GS?

>>62167322
sounds like a good deal but i'll pass

>>62166640
Tell that greasy haired prick Steve to hurry the fuck up with his undervolted Vega 56 results and I'd be happy to provide more.

>>62165524
>i'd like to be futureproof
This is a concept that doesn't really work with PC gaming. The closest you'll get is a 1080Ti or maybe an RX Vega because AMD Fine Wine technology. Futureproof is just another term for "more power than I currently need".

>>62167479
sure if you want to call it that

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Why didn t you just buy an AMD RX vega 56?
I got one for 399€ from Alternate. XD Dude you had literally 15 min to buy the card.

>>62167868
Are the AIBs as shitty as the reference cards

>>62167094
just-wait™ for Navi® my friend!

Try to get Vega sold out in 20 secs went to get a 1070 today only 1 in stock anywhere near me $530 deside to get 1080 instead $630 ... I guess I'm waiting for navi

>>62167064
this reminds me
AMD cards load CPU less
Nvidia gets CPU at least 5C higher all the time
nobody tested this properly

>>62167931
just order one from germans for 550

>>62165719
>>62165341

i dunno, im into crypto but i cant afford mining set-ups.

that said, there were a lot of oppurtunities. earlier this year AMD Saphire cards with HBM were going around for sub $250.

then there are rx480s up for forevery at around $200

I got my gtx 1080 some months ago for a cool $500 when it was on sale.

look around

>>62166960
80+ what? Gold? Platinum?
Whatever it is, GTX1060

>>62165376
>miners are the only reason for price increase
it's a supply issue, not a demand issue. there's and hbm2 shortage

>>62168145
sure but there wouldnt have been such a huge slope between supply if people didnt buy 10x cards for their mining rigs, it would have lasted a lot longer without those people

>>62168166
have you seen vega's power draw? miners dont want vega

>>62168199
yea i can see they dont want vega because a lot of them are listed for upwards of 1k on ebay and other sides its listed at 750 euro on a local site here

>>62166429
Really is your own fault for waiting 18 months in the first place.

>>62166518
>>62166617
>>62166626
Hello Raja, stop post the the same fucking shit and fix the fucking drivers and the power draw of the future Navi.

Thanks :3

I thought everyone was going to LOWER power draw. That's where the industry was headed. What the fuck is AMD doing? Goddamn space heaters

1000w PSUs are supposed to be a thing of the past.

>>62168651
AMD has always tried to get ahead with the brute force aproach, stuff as much raw power into it as possible

>>62168651
Vega suck so they factory OC it to the limit for match with 1070 and 1080, that's why the power draw is crazy. Say good bye to the laptop market.

>>62168757
as if vega was ever fit to be a laptop GPU

>>62168770
The desktop 1080 fit in a laptop. With HBM, Vega was supposed to be awesome but they fail. Vega 56 is not that bad for the price tho but still draw too much power for the performance.

>>62168827
how huge did the laptop have to be to properly cool the 1080? imagine Vega in a laptop

>>62168841
Since Maxwell, they make some desktop GPU for laptops

Look the list of laptops
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080-Laptop.171212.0.html

>>62168886
Due to the high TDP, the mobile GTX 1080 is only suited for large laptops with high performance cooling solutions. The power consumption is ranging from 150 to 200 Watt (according to Nvidia, up to 220 W in the Asus G701VIK, G800, GX800). A low power version (Max-Q) is available beginning summer 2017 with a reduced TGP of 90 - 110 Watt (at a reduced performance).

>>62168911
I know, it's alway ~5% slower but it still the same GPU with the same clock and bios. Only the boost go lower because of the TDP limit in a laptop.

>>62168757
No.
They tried to salvage every damn card they had so even the most fucked cards can pass their standards. That's why you undervolt, and get better results.

>>62169043
>can pass their standards
So he is right, Vega suck

>>62169137
When you unfuck AMD's settings, you get the performance you asked for (even the Vega 56 outperforming the 1080). Vega is a year late, but I wouldn't say it sucks. RTG and the economy suck.

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>>62165341
GTX 1070 is better than RX Vega for mining..the ratio power/consumption is on the 1070 side.

The real question: WHERE ARE THE VEGA AIBs????

>>62169289
Sold out
Just wait™

>>62165367
Read Raj tweets, he got back from vacation and flat out said that it was a demand issue and that much of that demand was from miners. The reality of the matter is that even at this price, power draw, and hash rate it is still viable if not slightly worse than running two 580s. So as long as it is cheaper to buy one vega 64 than it is to buy 2 580s, expect them to be sold out.

>>62165719
All nvidia cards are in stock, only amd cards are sold out. This is obviously a play to garner free advertising by limiting supply and generating news stories about vega being so popular it is sold out.

>>62169316
I talk about custom cards

>>62166376
Can't you just hop on one of those awsome euro trains i keep hearing about and make a day trip to some other country and buy one at a store?

>>62166429
Which is why I got a 1080 at release then did the vega step up for $250 to 1080ti at release. Once 1180 ti comes out I will sell my 1080ti and buy that.

>>62169693
no lol bulgaria is eastern europe

>>62169686
I know. They're sold out.
What, you're expecting to get them the first day, or even month, at a good price?

>>62169751
>They're sold out

What? Where is the review of the Sapphire Nitro?

>>62169810
Wait for the embargo to lift.

>>62169043
I wonder just to what point this is true, regardless I take it to mean more waiting until the production line works out its kinks out. Not like we didn't already have to wait for drivers. Maybe count on finding black Friday sales

>>62167369
You'll never get a deal with that attitude

>>62165341
1070 isn't out of stock everywhere in your country? I just got a 1080 because 1070 pricing was such bullshit. The cheapest 1080 cost 45 eurobucks more than the cheapest 1070.

>>62170694
its not out of stock but its pretty overpriced even more than the usual price, i saw it costed pretty decently on amazon.de

>>62170755
Yeah on amazon it wasn't too bad actually. But I couldn't pay with iDeal so I just ordered a 1080 for €545 from somewhere else.

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>>62165780
1080 is meme, either get 1070 or go straight to 1080ti

>>62171450
Going to a 1070 from a 980 is begging for buyer's remorse

>>62169928
>nda for aibs

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will partner 56s have DVI?

>>62173001
480s and 580s did, so Vega should too. It's still pretty popular.
That or at least they'll include an adapter