/retro/

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>>62139153
Wasn't there a fag who owned this thing?

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>>62139153

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>>62140741
>>62140170
Fuck off Mac toddler

>>62140741
>>62140170
Post something interesting instead of some nu-Apple shit.

>>62140942
>mac toddler
>libretto
the macshit of retro threads

>>62140942
>he was mind controlled by /g/ retro memes into buy a libretto

lol.

>>62139153
Damn sexy. Didn't know this model.

>>62140942
>costs $100 at best
>$100 is unacceptable expensive for me
Sucks to be a third-worlder.

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>>62139459
There are several who post here who own PC's / XT's and AT's.

>>62140942
>Fuck off Mac toddler
>to someone posting a image of a G5
>in a /retro/ thread

>>62140960
>last PPC Macs
>"nu"-apple

>>62141419
Yes, "nu".
Motorola > IBM

>>62140942
>>62140960
>t. phoneposting samefaggot reposting shitty libretto pics that will never even own a libretto because they're too cheap to buy one
>>62141782
Motorola manufactured most PPC chips besides the G5 you blithering dipshit

>>62142004
>Motorola manufactured most PPC chips besides the G5
And which one was pictured you blind cunt?

>>62142023
>well DUH I was obviously just referring to that one exception that's still pretty much the same as the rest of them other than the logo on the chip!
Fuck off back to >>>/vr/ already, you retarded gamertoddler.

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>>62141399
I have one of these but it keeps saying something about HDD controller failure. Used to work.

Any suggestions

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>>62139459
there's like 5 of us at this point
I have 3 or 4 if you count a board-swapped abortion that used to be a 5150

>>62139153
does /retro/ know the best way to clean vinyl records?

>>62142223
cum and tears

>>62142231
now can you stop being a faggot and give me a serious suggestion?

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>>62142243
no because I don't actually have a sure answer, but at least inane shitposting will make your question more visible so deal with it

>>62142223
RIP it to flac and toss it and cry that you'll never ever get better than that single phonographic snapshot

>>62139459
I only have a clone mainboard for it

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>>62139459
>>62141399
(Only photo I have available)

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>>62142309
>facebook filename
>image filter
Are you even 18

>>62142275
>sits in a thread wanking to shitty overpriced useless IBM garbage from 30 years ago
>shits on a format that STILL cant be replicated

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>>62142588
>comes in a thread and asks an off-topic question about a hipster format
>cries when all he gets back is shitposting

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>>62140942
>TFW they're expensive and hard to come by
>TFW these things are dirt cheap and more common

>>62142607
>a format from 100 years ago isnt "retro" or "technology"

>>62139153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWGOLO5HTDs

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>>62142763
not when you're a Massive Faggot

>>62142805
you are the one being the massive faggot, what did a vinyl kill your parents or something?

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>>62142829
it's almost like you've never been shitposted at when you ask an inane, easily googleable question on 4chan

are you fresh off the boat from reddit or something?

>>62142829
>>>/reddit/

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>>62142864
Did i hit a nerve?

>>62142223
Wood glue.
Not even kidding.

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>>62142943
dumb wojakposter

>>62142980
umad?

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>>62142988
mad for your boyhole so I can try out my vast dildo collection

Would you fags shut the fuck up and stop arguing?

>>62143022
would you stop being a little bitch and post old shit already so we have something better to do

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>>62143140
I was.

>>62143012
umad?

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>>62139153
This pic made me wonder how graphic designer battle station looked like in early-mid 90s with com-port tablets, scsi scanners and stuff.

>>62143161
all I see is a bunch of google image thumbnails of shit the people posting them don't even own

>>62139459
calling them that is sure to make them come out and post

>>62143161
wasn't there also one that had analog TV capabilities? to compete with the ATI All in Wonder Pro

>>62140942
that's literally my pic

i have three of 'em

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Comfy devices are the best.

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I would love to have one of those expensive POWER9 workstations in a colorful case like this.

>>62143363
Would like to know this too.

I figure at that time computers were really only available for this type of work at design agencies and printing houses so any necessary devices were networked.

>>62143363
>>62144867
Typically dual monitors, flatbed scanner (sometimes also a handheld like a ScanMan but those were shit) and digitizer tablet with a mundane drafting table and accompanying art supplies off to the side.
And at minimum 20 toys, models or figurines scattered randomly about.

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Nyoom.

>>62145170
Right: Fully started and into a game already
Left: Still booting...

>>62145186
Oh come on be fair to it, the right machine I just turned on. The left machine was left on for.. weeks i had to guess. They're just public retro boxes in an education facility I go to. I put doom on there of course, and people love thrashing the pinball.

My newest project:

https://youtu.be/kRyLvyoCplg

My most recent project: repairing a needle from a 1978 Fisher Price vinyl player I got at Goodwill for $3 by using the needle from a crappy record player I bought from Target years ago. Took maybe 2 hours in total to get it all working. Still need to attach the new needle to the player's speakers.

Does /retro/ have an IRC?

Do just the OSs count as acceptable, because I've been running FreeDOS on one my my T60s and that is proper comfy.

>>62147198
Not retro enough. It should be a 2400 baud BBS.

Is "moderately out of date" allowed in /retro/?

>>62147273
I think we are talking pre www internet items.

>>62147255
Look up FozzTexx's BBS

>>62140942
Triggered.

>>62147336
Pre-WWW or near the birth of the WWW IMO. Mid-90s and before.

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>>62147311

>>62147388
I have one similar I still use with an old printer.

Then there is the 286.

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>>62147311

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>>62147362
Not mine but I still have some AM Stereo tuners.

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>>62147501

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>>62147487
Tfw the battery door broke off, gonna have to get the super glue off of the tab

Any classic amplifier fans in here? I have a problem with my old amplifier, a Marantz 2216.
I get a hum in my speakers whenever I hook my laptop up to the amplifier and my TV. Strangely, the hum stops whenever I lightly tap my TV on the side, only to return after a random amount of time. Any ideas what this might be, and how I could fix it?

>>62147744
You sure it's not just a loose signal cable?

Try swapping that out first if you haven't already.

>>62147744
Sounds like a ground loop.

>>62142223
Soapy water and then play it through once when the record is covered in the solution.

>>62142588
>>62142607
Faggots. Both of you.

Maybe you want to go to /vr/ if circlejerking comments and rules are your thing.

>>62147198
It has several. Not that there's much going on. 4chan's IRC under /g/retro/ is the "official" one.

>>62147273
/retro/ is mostly for _old shit_ that does not fit anywhere else on /g/. So sure.

>>62147336
>>62147373
Where did all this new-, and /vr/-blood come from so suddenly?

>>62147311
every time

>>62147273
If it's old enough that you can't just casually post about it in an average thread without looking like a troll/attention whore, it goes here.
>>62147336
>>62147373
That was pretty much the /vr/ rule and those threads were boring as fuck, just a bunch of banal autists jerking off to the mass market 8-bits and PC clones they had as kids and nothing else. Fuck nostalgia.

I mean, there's not really anything wrong with either of those, but all those stupid ass rules and restrictions do is scare away people with actually cool shit because they're afraid of getting shitposted out of the thread or just feel they won't get any replies.

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>this triggers the retrotard

>>62151074
>That was pretty much the /vr/ rule and those threads were boring as fuck, just a bunch of banal autists jerking off to the mass market 8-bits and PC clones they had as kids and nothing else. Fuck nostalgia.
Not only that, but those threads are dead now. That's how much they sucked. They where full of argueing, bait and shitposts.

Nostalgia is nice, dumb rules aren't.

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>>62151075
>5MHz processor
>1MB of RAM
>on an original IBM PC in 1980

>>62151075
>150ghz ever

>>62151075
The fact that only 2017 is period accurate and 2034 is physically impossible speaks volumes about the artist.

>>62151369
1980 is also wrong and 2001 is more like 1996

>>62151146
Millennial are the most stupid when trying to be funny.

>>62151369
>and 2034 is physically impossible speaks volumes about the artist.
RAM is possible, but the CPU is impossible or either scaling all the cores together

>>62151531
>t. born in 1990

>>62151120
I guess I meant "nostalgia" in a more strawman-esque way as being a narrow-minded cunt that thinks retrocomputing is just playing games on cheap mass-market shit you had as a kid and shutting out anyone who wants to post about something else. It's what that kind of bullshit always sounds like to me, and it makes me feel overly bitter about it because I love late '90s and early '00s shit just as much as the older stuff and tend to work on a lot of it, since it's a great blend of old-world quality and new-world practicality. I also don't care much for games either, not that I don't play them occasionally anyway.

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>>62151075
>>62151531
That's literally the level that qualifies as a tech person / developer these days.

http://www.commitstrip.com/en/?

Those actual people who are this dumb as praised as smart techies in the world around you right now.

>>62151621
he is a webdev, what do you expect? quality? no Node library for that' I'm afraid.

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>>62151510
>1980 is also wrong
I mean, if you had enough money to throw at it you could have a system with 1 MB of RAM easily
>and 2001 is more like 1996
and I mean, if you had no money to throw at it that wasn't completely outlandish

(they're still retarded but I want to be autistic)

>>62151543
Is like those cyberpunk games and stories that assumed dialup modems would continue scaling into the megabits.
>dit deet doot dit dit doot deet
>eeee eeee eee eeee screech
>Connect 1120000

>>62151726
>I mean, if you had enough money to throw at it you could have a system with 1 MB of RAM easily
No, original PC in 1980 maxed out at 256KB. There also was no EMS.

>and I mean, if you had no money to throw at it that wasn't completely outlandish
It was pretty obsolete. A 17 year old might have had one in his bedroom, but not someone who actually uses a computer.

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>>62151621
There used to be a time that when you where working with computers, you did mostly everything yourself.
Nowadays a webdev won't know how to install RAM, the C guy won't know how to install an Operating System. The sysadmin won't even know how to make scripts. etc.
Worse of all, they all are closed minded and can only do one thing one way, they have no creativity because they all learned in the same school and the same things.

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>>62139459
I dont have an AT, I do have this PS/2

>>62151879
that's Pretty Sweet / Too.

>>62142422
sauce on grill

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>>62151908
k

>>62151879
>LCD on proper PC
Why would you do that.

>>62151930
i can't fap to this

>>62151946
Because CRTs take a lot of space and are heavy as shit. Ive got limited room on my shelves anon.
Also IBM VGA monitors are expensive as shit, and if I went full CRT, id want an original CRT.

>>62151075
>200MHz
>24MB of RAM
>In 2001

>>62151986
He too a loan and blew all his money on the magical IBM PC with a 5MHz CPU and 1MB of RAM. He's still in debt and can't afford better.

>>62152106
>too
took*

>>62151969
>take lot of space
>Placing the monitor on top of the PC

>are heavy
>Look, I'm moving my monitor every other minute!

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>>62142004
Better luck next time Autism Alexis!

>>62152137
He dosen't have an original CRT for it anyways.

>>62152151
Common, look at the filename, it's saved from another thread.
https://warosu.org/g/thread/61482216#p61485900
With the picture there being saved from another thread again.

Google won't show you all threads this picture has been in.

>>62152151
https://rbt.asia/g/search/image/zXdF2IW-2UgjcSqnmjUMiw/
retard

>>62151969
the 8513s those PS/2s shipped with aren't really that big or heavy actually

>>62151946
I use a flatscreen over S-Video on a C64.
Fight me.

>>62151782
>No, original PC in 1980 maxed out at 256KB. There also was no EMS.
I just meant in general, I know the PC didn't get the 640K revision for another couple years
>It was pretty obsolete. A 17 year old might have had one in his bedroom, but not someone who actually uses a computer.
Shit, most of my 1996-era systems were still used well into the 2000s until they were replaced, it's not like there was much of a reason for the average person to dump another three grand on a nice system before the internet started ramping up demand.

>>62152292
>I just meant in general, I know the PC didn't get the 640K revision for another couple years
Not only that, he has a IBM PC in 1980, a year before it came out. That makes the picture in itself "useless" to discuss.

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>>62152254
I thought about getting an 8503, theres on on eBay for 60 bucks. But really I dont use the machine. I'm trying to sell it. I got it for 10 bucks thinking it wouldn't work, it would be a fun project at best.
But it works, I really don't have any use for it and I dont collect these kind of things. Which is why I'm using an onmitech keyboard and not the 5$ model M I found, which would also be fun to restore but again, not my thing

>>62152292
>Shit, most of my 1996-era systems were still used well into the 2000s until they were replaced, it's not like there was much of a reason for the average person to dump another three grand on a nice system before the internet started ramping up demand.
A 200MHz Pentium with 24MB RAM in 2001 was choking. Even most of the games at the time would have minimum requirements that where double that and XP on such a machine would have been a joke.

Sure, a normie who only read emails or played DOS games, sure, it would have performed just as well it did 5-6 years ago. Just like most of the hardware we are talking about in those threads.
Still, his picture implies about technology of that specific era, it's wrong anyways, same for the 2001 one.

>>62152366
Man, how come Model M's got so popular and overrated/hyped in the hipster community?
Don't get me wrong, it's a nice keyboard, for actual old machines with AT keyboard ports, that's about it.

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>>62152454
They're good boards and they sound good. Personally I prefer IBM's KB rubber dome boards. Same comfy, less noise and slightly smaller.
There's a lot of interesting boards there, lot of stuff that uses that jack that looks like a phone line I can't remember the name of.
Some professional workstation boards (judging by excessive macro keys and solid steel bodies), a lot of apple keyboards from varried models, and a bunch of mediocre tier beige boards from the late 90's
There's an SGI granite board there but it looks like someone rested a curling iron on it once

>>62152563
I'm talking specifically about the Model M.

>>62152621
For a while hipsters liked them because they were mechanical, cheap and abundant, and had an IBM logo
That's really all there was to it, theres plenty of quality boards from that time out there, just that Model M's were everywhere. Now that theyre popular most are thrown up on eBay when theyre found and they get price gouged.

>>62152271
Well, considering that there is no 8:5 AR CRT that accepts the semi-NTSC/PAL -signal (its never standard, because of the 8:5 AR) of the VIC-20/C64, that is somewhat reasonable.
Still, you won't be playing any games with sample and hold blur and all the other crap following the tech and especially not enjoying it.

>>62152454
Wish the Model F was more popular.

>>62153270
Why? Then they would be even harder to acquire.

>>62153322
Full key rollover.

>>62153430
You didn't get the post. Why would you want them to be more popular, they would be harder to acquire then.

>>62153465
You're still right about it being harder to acquire if it was more popular.

>>62152322
Yeah, it's still retarded.
>>62152408
Of course, it would have been hopelessly outclassed even a year afterwards, but there were plenty out there still running it. Most of my Pentium boxes are full to the brim with 2000-2001 dated emails and last modified stamps, it was hardly unheard of for people to still be running that gear despite the great leaps and bounds the market had made since it rolled out of the factory.

But yeah, the whole thing's pretty stupid, I don't even really get what it's trying to convey.

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>they don't manage their UltraSPARC homeservers using a pizzabox serial terminal

>>62154840
kek

>>62154878
>12192768 pixels
>all of them blur

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>>62154878
psssh...nothin personnel...kid...

>>62154912
I had one of these running deskside for a while, eventually scrapped it as the power supply went bust.

>>62154955
>scraping something because one part is bust
WHAT

>>62154955
>scrapped it as the power supply went bust
>>62155001
It's just bait, this thing has redundant PSUs. /v/ doesn't like having quality threads in their consumer advice board.

>>62155057
>/v/ doesn't like having quality threads in their consumer advice board.
so true

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This is just in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHbhH7ISL_Y

>>62155001
I didn't feel the need to put 40-60$ into something that I was given for free, took loads of power anyway, I still have a few sparcstations/Blade 1000/ IPC / Ultra 1
>>62155057
I only had one installed dipshit

>>62155379
>I didn't feel the need to put 40-60$ into something that I was given for free
That's a hilarious meme!

>I like this old computer shit
>but nooo way I'll put money into my hobby

>inb4 I don't really care
Wrong thread.

Also your trip fell off, faggot.

>>62155407
I'm sorry my lack of money offends you, mind paying for the rest of mind broken electronics? I'll email you my PayPal.

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So an internal source told me ITTFami got this thing and is looking for suggestions as to what to record with it, apart from a planned train trip to the mountain.

>>62155456
I doubt fixing that PSU would have cost 40-60 bucks.
For 10 bucks you could already replace all of the most usually failing parts on a switching power supply with parts from a local electronics store.

>>62155477
Famicom! Record your old shitboxes, like they would be in their native era.
Also a trip to the mountains would look cool for sure. I don't think there's even a better idea then that.

Also, remember, you're only 51 subs short from camwhoring.

>>62155505
I'm thinking of LARPing as an 80s sysadmin if I ever make the camwhoring video. Not promising anything, though.

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>>62155485
Part of the PCB was charred and black, repairing that was absolutely beyond my scope of experience.

41$, this is the cheapest result.

>>62155566
Except that's for an E450 and those never came with a single PSU.

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>>62155583
oops

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Not really my cup of tea, but since Fami posted a camcorder, I remembered this I got recently.
Just something someone gave me because they knew I liked old shit, the whole bag with all the things.

I actually have (camera and charger only) another one of them since the early 2000's when I actually used it for home videos, but never had the entire things with bag, etc. Guess I'll use the old one for spare parts if needed as it's not in the best shape anymore.

>>62155633
Fami here.
I've had two of those and both ate tapes like motherfuckers. Wouldn't recommend. Cheap late 90s crap.

>>62155778
You must have gotten real unlucky then, the camcorder tape in the picture is my original one that I used in the early 2000's and it's in great condition, never had the camera trying to eat it up.

>>62155810
It'll eventually start doing it. From what I found out from tearing them down, the two tape guides that wrap the tape around the video drum get their structural support from two pieces of plastic that run inside the guide rails. These of course wear down and shrink with time, so the guides get all wobbly. This in turn makes the tape go sideways against the drum, which of course wrinkles the shit out of it. One of the cameras I had even managed to rip one of the video heads out of the drum. At least I got the CRT viewfinders from them.

>>62155895
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Good it never got to that with me. It's not like I'm ever going to use them again for serious things. Plus they have normal composite out too, that's enough for me to record something just for the sake of recording with an old camera straight into a USB A/V converter.

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>>62155218
After watching that I feel pretty thankful for getting one in great condition for cheap. Specially with floppy drives.

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>>62154840

>>62156359
10/10

>>62151908
elsa jean i think
good faps ;)

>>62154840
...is that Wii getting molested?

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yeah boi /g/, motherboard sold
which means im up 15$ and a 33mhz 486dx

>>62156595
Well, all of its rear ports are filled, so...

As a side note, an European Wii makes for a great media player with RGB out.

>>62156666
Any luck with dvds? Mine seems to have a lot of trouble, and the A/V sync drifts.

>>62156684
Not a single problem over here. I use WiiMC. I run latest wad version from NAND, to be exact.

>>62156751
Hmmm, maybe I should install to nand then. Not like I don't have three spares. They keep showing up in thrift shops.

>>62156809
You can never have enough Wiis. Man, I miss the homebrew community the thing had back in the day. I'm surprised nobody managed to port Mac OS 9 to it, considering it is pretty much a late iBook G3 with some custom stuff on top.

>>62156666
Wii U is literally godlike over HDMI and using Plex from your home server on it to view shit.
Wii is great for emulation over RGB and 240p.

>>62156901
I'd love to get a Wii U, but I just can't justify spending €150 on a machine I'd use for two games and what I already do on the Wii. I'll get one if they get as cheap as Wiis or PS2s are right now, which I highly doubt.

I actually thought of making a little distcc cluster out of some Wiis, but the USB to ethernet adapters cost more than the consoles themselves.

>>62151075
>Win9x MS-DOS shell
>terminal

>>62151879
Also while I'm listing stuff, anyone here want to buy this guy?
You're paying shipping for the 20lb bastard though, and it sure as hell wont fit in any flat rate boxes

And if I'm selling to g anons, its coming in pieces so shit doesn't break

>>62156976
They will go down over time. I've already seen them going for 50-70€ occasionally.

>>62157208
Where are you located and how much would you want for it?

>>62142223
Buy a microfiber brush with the cleaning solution. You just apply the cleaning paste on the record with the turn table set to the highest speed. Then take the brush and drag from inside out but don't press down hard. The brush should barely glide over the top. Make sure the fiber on the brush is going the right way they usually have an arrow indicating the correct side.

A cleaning kit is like 10-20 bucks on Amazon.

>>62157371
Northwest Indiana, Porter County, ive gotten a local offer of 100$ but the guys wife wouldnt let him buy it *whip crack*

>>62157554
Dayum shame, ain't gonna ship over the pond.


>the guys wife wouldn't let him buy it *whip crack*
Kek

>>62157554
Do you think he's gonna buy a $100 computer just because you make that noise?

>>62157736
Don't front. You know full well that works.

>>62139459
I do but I'm not sure if it works and it's in storage

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>get Compaq Deskpro with onboard Cirrus VGA gpu
>It's so shit that it sometimes produces errors on the desktop, every time in the same spot
Good thing the system allows you to use a better GPU. I'll probably install NT4 and finally test GLquake with muh enterprise-grade 3Dlabs card

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>>62151946
Is a 4:3 beige LCD allowed? I know I'll never be one of the kool kids here, but still

>>62139153
I have a 1998 IBM thinkpad I acquired recently.
>Where can I get a charger?
>Should I try installing Arch on it?

>>62158131
Those machines are solid shit.

>>62158203
Rude. They are alright pentium systems.

>>62158173
Pics!

>>62158173
ebay
arch wont run on it

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Muh onboard OPL3

>>62158885
>Vibra 16
Into the trash it goes.

Also, onboard sucks.

>>62158895
Were the regular chips of the SB16 ever used for something useful, aka not speech synthesis bullshit? Don't think so

>>62158885
I have the exact same board hanging on the wall.

>>62158944
VIBRA is cost (and quality) reduction over original SB16. Never owned another sound card that sound as awful as VIBRA 16's did.

>>62159064
So you never owned the actually awful SB pro clones. Also you probably only used the shitty later vibras.

>>62159104
Nope, never owned awful SB Pro clones. Most SB clones like Yamaha OPL-3SA that I have owned sound even better. Probably the closest to the Vibra 16's is a Sound Blaster 2.0 in an XT, it only sounded shit because of dirty power that I fixed, then it was still a better card quality wise then the Vibra 16 at the same bit and sample rate.

I might own shittier sound cards, I have boxes full of hardware, but I never needed to use them.
As far as I know, all the VIBRA 16's I've tried have always had shit sound, from early revisions to late ones. One series of cards I have tested just because of the Sound Blaster name. Original Sound Blaster 16 sounds way better though.

>>62158131
I have one of these fuckers in a tower format. Video cuts off after 30 seconds and power light blinks red. Tried every damn thing under the sun, only thing that changes anything is a PCI graphics card (no AGP) keeps the display on but it just freezes. I think the chipset got damaged by heat.

>>62158885
>>62158944
>>62159104
>vibra16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hzxE1_nl0k

makes my ears bleed

>>62159171
It's a s370 Pentium III 600 MHz, 128 MB SDRAM, onboard video and sound. Found it in a thrift store for $10 missing RAM and hard drive, haven't bothered to add a HDD because of the turning off problem.

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Tamagotchi clone for your palm.

>>62159207
At least you can turn it off...

>>62159217
You can't actually. It beeps and wakes up automatically.

>>62159225
Rip out the battery.

>>62159198
That Vibra 16S sounds pretty similar to the AWE32

>>62151963
Step up your game.

>>62159256
Listen again, the AWE32 is way louder that and masks any noise it has, it also has much nicer highs.
The AWE32's feature though was it's EMU and not the integrated OPL3. This is just comparing the OPL3 chips, the EMU made the AWE32 shine. Only with compatible software though, not all games sound good with it.

>>62159256
Listen to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFgkjTA1-Pc

>>62159313
>>62159299
Yeah, I know that the AWE cards had a soundfont synth too. Yamahas XG synths are better though

>>62159366
Both are beaten by a DreamBlaster X2 though.

Anyone know if a raspberry pi 1 is capable of running Munt (the MT32 emulator) at usable speed?

>>62159425
Try? Probably though. Pi 3's are cheap also.

>>62142198
Incomplete PCjr owner here. Do I count?

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my AAs died :/

>>62151621
>Every strip is a wall of text with an unfunny "punch line".
Wew lad. Is there a market for this shit?

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>>62159411
>Yamaha XG
>beaten by a DreamBlaster X2

>>62156873
I still use mine for retro games. It kind of a meme at this point, but the Wii really is the best retro emulator.

>>62159619
You don't own one, do you?
It's cheating because it's new and FPGA based, but it's the best soundfont synth you can stick into a old shitbox.

>>62159664
I don't, but I've heard comparisons. XG has a more balanced sample set, and higher quality effects. More effect variety, too, but then that doesn't really matter for GM.

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>>62159746
forgot relatively relevant pic

>>62159746
Unlike S1 the X2 is fully customizable though, sample sets and effects.

>>62159787
Oh that's interesting. I'd have to look into that. Can you change anything about the effects engine though? These Dream synths always sound rather dry and artificial.

What pre-2000 ThinkPads have the best screens?

>>62160268
Post 2000 (+17) ThinkPads don't even have good screens

>>62160268
Not the 380's, I can tell you that much
600E has a great TFT panel in 1024x768, bout as good as any other tft up through the T4x era
760's have a great screen but its 640x480

>>62160327
>Not the 380's, I can tell you that much
What about the 380Z? It's active matrix.

>>62160327
Thanks.
>>62160311
Nah, some have been good.

>>62160268
What's "good" to you? Any active-matrix model is going to be okay, resolution-wise you're looking at 1024x768 on average for high-end models with 1280x1024 if you can find a nice 770 with that option.
>>62160327
Not even the shittiest 760s shipped at that 640x480, they all bottomed out at 800x600 while the good ones hit 1024x768 later on.

>>62160376
>a nice 770 with that option.
1280x1024 would be awesome, but aren't these very rare?

>>62160376
>>62160385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK0dbYisjwI

>>62160376
The 760L in particular only had an 800x600 run for a very limited time, the rest were 640x480
And the other 760's were the same way, 640x480 was way more common and thats pretty much all you find nowadays

Youre thinking 770's, they hsd much better screens

>>62160385
Yeah, just the 770X/770Z shipped with it and it was undoubtedly expensive as fuck.

I used to have a running list of what the best shitpad flagships were from year to year but I lost it forever ago. Just pick up a good 600E and be done with it.

>>62160425
ThinkWiki needs to revise their shit, a lot of the earlier ones list 640x480 options in the Personal Systems Reference but I never saw any of them, all of my 760s are 800x600 or better, later ones had 1024x768 options.

I don't think a ThinkPad has been compelling on a screen quality basis since the 750 series though no matter what you go with, they all seem shittier for their time and price bracket than they should be.

>>62160334
Pretty much everything except the XD had some kind of problem.
The E and ED have ghosting out the ass and the backlight burns the edges of the screen, the Z had quality problems, a lot of the ones you find now have dark spots or part of the backlight is dead. Otherwise good panels but only because of the tech they used. The 380 and 380D had god awful DSTN panels, but the 380D also had a decent TFT optiom

>>62160464
Well thinkpads have always been the same. 800x600 then is 1366x768 now, lmao
Just be grateful STN is long dead

>>62143434
yes

>>62157173
typical "i'm familiar with the cli, i used to use DOS!", as if DOS is remotely comparable to a modern *nix shell

>>62159229
you do realize many old pda's used ram for user storage, right?
you'd effectively factory reset the unit by pulling the battery

>>62160521
Not the coin cell that keeps the volatile memory, just the battery of the unit

>>62160487
Aside from scripting it's not really that different at all once you set up aliases for common commands. On later Windows versions you'll even get tab completion, and you can add in GNUshit utilities if you really want to.

For a while I had a pretty nice shell+vim development setup going in Win2k on my SGI, kind of want to pull that out again, maybe when I finally get a 1600SW for it.

>>62159366
AWE32 had more/better support though in games

>>62160585
AWE32 was just general midi in 99% of all games anyway

>>62160573
I have one.
>No coin cell

The book even tells you the time you have for replacing the batteries and keeping the memory. It seconds.

>>62160487
If you used 4DOS and, say, Rexx for scripting, then it's pretty comparable.

>>62160573
>>62160604
Jewing out on the backup battery was more of a Palm thing, WinCE shit especially usually did keep a backup battery.

>>62160617
Yeah, I have a old Palm, it's pretty shit to not have a backup battery, specially because my battery once dies, goes totally zero charge

>>62160636
Guess they just figured you'd sync it enough that it didn't really matter.

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>>62160377
>not having a real one
I have this Roland music PDA which works as a Sound Canvas. I also have several Yamaha music PDAs.

Dedicated MIDI composition music PDAs were a thing for a brief period. Of course laptops and eventually the tablet and phone killed them.

>>62161284
That's fucking awesome. Too bad I cannot into making music like that. Were there any tracker PDA?

>>62161539
(Or decent PDA tracker applications?)

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>>62161539
Yeah it has a sequencer as well as being a sound module. Yamaha ones work similarly but no touch-screen.

I prefer the Yamaha's UI because it has a little mini keyboard you can use.

Both have built in effects chains too.

>>62141399
What is the addres for the 4chan bbs?

Hey guys, does a Athlon 750MHz Slot A machine count? I just got some parts to build one.

>>62162475
There's no public server afaik, you need to run it locally.

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>>62162785
Totally. Don't forget to share some photos after you finished.