>/g/ defend the ban >/g/ think adblocking is evil >/g/

I don't want an ad blocker that wastes bandwidth loading ads

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>Nissenbaum
>Zer aviv

Don't come to a hasty conclusion and don't generalize. /g/ is not 1 person and the vocal minority of any community does not make them representatives or ambassadors.

>>62135195
Probably either /g/ooglers or NEET furries who rely on ads to make a living feeling threatened. It's only a tiny handful that's very vocal and antagonizing making threats such as reporting us to the FBI. Never seen anything like this in my 10 years on 4chan /g/. It'll be fun.

>>62135195
stop shilling your fucking jew funded shit extension and fuck off back to /pol/

>>62135452
We're making our own plugin, wanna help?

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I installed this meme just now.
It's hilarious.
>TFW when I saw 4chans disgusting ads for the first time ever in the ad vault.
Certainly not a light weight ad blocker though.

>>62135280
>/g/ is not 1 person
No, it's two and they fight each other like retarded /g/irls.

>>62135212
>>62135452
this
>>62135195
I don't think I want my shiternet wasted clicking ads constantly. Also the point of adblock is so you don't get tracked. If you have an addon or script that clicks every ad on every website you visit then they already know where you are. That isn't the point of ad blockers.

yes we fucking DEFEND THE BAN BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BAN ON FUCKING AD BLOCKERS, it's a ban on anarchy that would destroy most websites. IT'S NOT A FUCKING AD BLOCKER.
You're so fucking wrong about what this thing does.
YES, capitalism and advertising fucks stuff up. Why don't you just fucking run a valid credit card number generator tied to a bot to make millions of false Amazon purchases?
you fucking irredeemable retard
fuck I'm upset

>>62138023
>clicking on an ad without looking at it is like a false purchase

>>62135195
>call us nerd virgin aesthetic faggots all day
>some how he expects us to be activists now
now you what our autism powers? fuck off

>>62138023
wtf I love ad nauseam now.

>>62138023
I get to do what now? I'm sold, Downloaded.

You aren't going to stop us from breaking adsense moshe.

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>>62138023
>t. salty webdev currently making $300k on ads

>>62138023
I'm going to install 6 copies because you deserve the best. Thanks, Rajesh

>>62135195
whats the intensity of the clicks that I should set it as so that google doesn't detect my IP as invalid traffic?

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>You know the current ad economy of the internet where total retards and tech illiterates take all the brunt of the advertising and all I have to do to avoid all that shit is install a single extension?
>yes, I'd like it destroyed
>thanks

>>62139937
We don't know for sure at the moment, just set it some low-level if you're concerned. I'd set yours at 50% if you're so concerned.

Everyone in this thread is arguing over a moralfag non-issue in order to distract you from the fact that the entire concept doesn't account for TCP/IP protocols as you send your fucking IP address to Google a million times a day. Adnauseam is anti-privacy software due to the nature of the how network communication works. And don't listen to newfriends who claim browser obfuscation and script blocking is enough. Its not.

Don't use this software unless you know how to edit packets and send bullshit IP information to Google. Or you use a VPN.

>>62140071
>g-guyz stop, it's not working. You're only hurting yourself

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>>62135195

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>>62140071
>guys im so concerned for you, please dont hurt yourself and dont use this daaangerrous software. no really, listen to me!

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>>62140147
>completely misses the point

>>62139967
name 5 things that aren't botnets that this would affect

>>62135195
Astroturfing by companies.

A safer alternative instead of making your browsing habits known to Google is to construct a multi-deployable bot that just randomly browses the internet and clicks. The added benefit is that you can run as many as your CPU will allow and you wouldn't be letting Google know you visit Furry Foot porn websites.

This too requires a good VPN strategy though. /pol/ needs some technically minded people to keep them safe from themselves

>>62138023
>capitalism
>>>/r/eddit

>>62140151
>>62140133
>Tries to keep you safe by telling you to use a VPN while running adnauseam
>Doesn't comprehend and completely rejects any new information in order to "win"

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>>62140179
You're right, this is too much. I give up.

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>>62140233

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>>62138023
>>62138079
>>62138916
>>62139215
>>62139742
>>62139769
There is a thread on Infinity because of AdNauseam.

With AdNauseam, advertisers suffer and greedy jewish webmasters suffer.

>>62140233
The VPN is a given in any situation, not just this one. And that post or something similar gets posted in every thread on this. Thanks for the concern though

>>62140269
They're just baiting us and waging subtle psy-ops.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare

>>62140251
Am I telling you to stop using adnauseam? Are you being contrary because you're not sure what a VPN is?

I remember the days before the net.
>Installed

>>62140292
I know, I use that too but for cuckqueaning because it's far superior and beneficial to humanity

>>62140294
Why are you still posting salty webdev? Get back masturbating to your online porn.

>>62135195
what ban? just install it yourself, why should google be forced to host it?

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>>62140294
AdNauseam is great because greedy webmasters like yourself suffer too for running GooLag ads.

>>62140346
Most of my haul are non google.

>>62140321
You can use a VPN to connect through the internet through a virtual network. So when you spam your ajax and http requests to Google, they will get some IP from a VPN, not from you. Additionally, you want to make sure you randomize your IP in some way. By using a static IP, Google is more likely to build a profile on you.

I know you want to be contrary because you're not sure what I'm saying. You think I'm saying "stop using adnauseam", what I'm saying is "use it safely". We're actually trying to help you. If Google starts to go after people for this, you don't want your IP anywhere near this mess.

>>62140390
What's your website?

>>62137867
Its to produce dirty data. Its not about being untrackable its about confusing the tracking bots.

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>>62140391
>We're actually trying to help you.
>We
>help
>you

>>62138023

you write, read and act like a beta cuck of jewry origin

>ANARCHY

Anarcht is order

>>62140443
Why not use a VPN?

>>62140443
Implying this will work

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>>62140464
Nobody said you couldn't. Now go back to your online porn.

>>62138023
Fuck off /pol/tard loser

>>62140433
Because of the nature of TCP/IP, you're sending shitty data all with the same IP which defeats the purpose. You need to a.) alter packets give Google bullshit IP information, or b.) use a VPN ideally while switching networks constantly.

>>62140417
My advault haul

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>>62140467
>being this desperate

>>62138023
>Why don't you just fucking run a valid credit card number generator tied to a bot to make millions of false Amazon purchases?

Isn't this more like getting your phone number put on a telemarketer list so all the telemarketers call you, and when they do you just have the Lenny bot answer and waste their time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5IKbFATKLo

Oh but I guess it's really some fag (website) who is signing your number up to the telemarketers who will lose their cut in all this as well, and somehow that's wrong now.

>>62138023
t. google employee / adcuck

It'll track you more.
They can easily detect fake clicks; but your data matters more

>>62140477
Generally, paid VPNs can guarantee better privacy. But for your use you should do fine with something free. Here's a starting list. Good luck:

http://archive.is/6VmNC

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>>62140500
They're spreading FUD, like >>62140482 and >>62140391

This is the only time I've seen /g/ genuinely care for the safety and well-being of others. Too bad they're faking it.

>>62140523
Its pretty shitty fud considering they're telling you how to use adnauseam in a way that's harder for Google to track.

>>62140492
Ah never mind, I thought you were the salty webdev.

>>62135195
its a jewish trick. anyone who falls for the adnauseum lie is an idiot

>>62140514
We've been telling them that but they don't understand network protocol. They think protecting their privacy means they can't use their meme.

>>62140523
>Pol is retarded


I cannot wait till pol get Blu pilled degenerate ads cause they click with ad nauseum,and they will once again blame Google for spreading degeneracy.

>>62140607
It's like brave all over again.

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>>62138023
>installing this fucks with advertising companies with no effort on my part
so now you need to explain to me why I shouldn't do this

>>62135195
Webservers aren't free. It's either ads or paywalls, and I can't foresee any of the NEET fucks on /g/ (myself included) paying for every bit of online content they consume. That said, I still use uBlock, but the ban is perfectly reasonable.

>>62137117
It doesn't block anything and clicks everything instead. Enjoy your freshly downloaded malware.

>>62140688
Clicking everything is the point, it makes tracking meaningless

>>62135452
This
I don't care about killing ads. All that will accomplish is the rise of paywalled content.
Now fuck off shill

>>62140633
If google's adsense can detect it (which is likely), it's a waste of time.

The concept itself is neat though.

>>62140688
They drank the koolaid. Now just sit back and watch them get fucked by the botnet. You're not responsible for willful idiots.

>>62140607
/pol/ is full of gullible retards

>>62140633
goog already takes it into consideration and filters it
and you aren't compensated even though YOUR RESOURCES are being used

at least with brave when you view an ad, you're compensated
dont be a retarded jew, uninstall that malware and just use UBO plain until brave gets out of beta

Thanks boys my adsense account just got locked. For fucks sake boys

>>62140695
>Give ip
>I click everything
>I give my unique browser fingerprint
I am untracable!!!!!!

>>62140688
>>62140797
>They get a virus
>The have to buy a new computer
>No adblocker
>Rages about degenerate ads
Cannot believe /pol/ will make the self fufilled prophecy echo Chamber

>>62140835
The profile is so filled with garbage that the tracking data they receive is basically useless. What is wrong with what I said? You're not even making any counter arguments you're just memeing and using arrows as if that'll win you the discussion

>>62140880
>a bunch of useless data with your static IP address

i hope google enjoys their valuable profiles containing the browsing habits of guillible retards

Can I just edit the hosts file? Can google ban that somehow?

>>62140926
There goes the arrows again. What data do they get from me when 400 ads are clicked and I've actually viewed none of them? What if I just go into random sites that I would never actually visit? They get nothing valuable besides garbage data.

>>62140880
>uses jew talking points from their website
Anyways, your profile isn't filled with garbage. Google, the data behemoth, is pretty fucking good at filtering shit out. Who would have known! It's pretty simple to reference other data points in relation to your fingerprint to understand what was a real click or not. And in situations where they cannot, they'll just add it to your profile. Oversimplified obviously.
How does that actually benefit you? You're now being served yacht ads and world of warcraft ads, and clicking on them. Now tell me again how this destroys Google? You're giving advertisers more profiles to advertise to and this ... hurts them?

>>62140688
>It doesn't block anything and clicks everything instead. Enjoy your freshly downloaded malware.
AdNauseam doesn't download anything, just simulates a click. They spell it out here:

Does AdNauseam's clicking put me at risk for malicious Ads or ransomware?

Absolutely not. AdNauseam simulates clicks on Ads by issuing an AJAX request to the adserver in a background process. This request is made without opening any additional windows or pages on your computer. The text-only request is safely discarded by AdNauseam before it has a chance to execute in the browser (no DOM is constructed and no code is ever allowed to run). Further, all cookies from AdNauseam's visits are automatically blocked before they reach the browser's local storage.

https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam/wiki/FAQ#does-adnauseams-clicking-put-me-at-risk-for-malicious-ads-or-ransomware

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>>62140968

>>62140977
>tech illiterate shills for a jewish extension that uses his resources, doesn't compensate him for it, and is snake oil that supposedly kills a corporation
Peak /g/.

>>62140970
And when Google says your data is private, you believe them? :)

>>62140968
Doesn't the extension continue to prevent ads from being shown? I'm pretty sure it works in alongside ad blocking software. And there was an article recently about "click fraud" because of this extension or similar practices. So clearly, something is going on with lots of clicks that have nothing to show for them that advertisers do not like.

>>62140999
>And when Google says your data is private, you believe them? :)
I don't believe you.

>>62141001
Click frauds come from indian web farms, these are effectively entire rooms full of people browsing the web and clicking, and they don't remain static in a way that Goog can just ban x range to solve that problem. You're talking about thousands of rotating staff per day clicking on n quota. That shit adds up much faster than an extension install base that isn't even on the chrome web store.
Realistically what happened is adnauseum shills caught wind up the news and took credit for it to get more users to install.
It uses tuned down fork of UBO.

one thing's for sure, the jews really don't like this addon.

>>62141034
>Taking credit for someone else's work
How jewish of them

>>62141034
And wouldn't you know it, the shilling started at Reddit and "magically" made its way here. They spazz the fuck out too when you say anything bad about their literal botnet full of static filterable IPs.

>>62141034
That's pretty neat, but I still wouldn't get serviced ads because my ad blocking software continues to block them

>>62140592
So are you a mod here? If yes: This is big.
If not, you'll get banned you can't impersonate a moderator.

>>62141255
>>62140592
Stop samefagging.

Why the fuck would I have an extension that clicks ads? What the the fuck stupid little brainlet are you?
Gtfo and back to pol/reddit, scumfuck.

>>62142064
>Identity politics

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>>62142105

>>62135195
please stop the shilling

>>62142154
>if someone uses an extension I don't understand or don't agree with they must be from/pol/ or Reddit
That's exactly identity politics

>>62142166
>politics
HAHAHAHAHA
>the current state of slash gee slash

>>62142241
Okay, how about false identity labeling? It's just a phrase. Regardless it's stupid and childish to resort to that type of argument when faced with something you don't like or don't understand

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>>62142261
>redditor this mad for being called out
el em ay oh
Welcome to 4chan newfaggot
I suggest you browse more boards other than /pol/

>>62142318
Curious why these redditors are so angry about this plugin?

>>62142318
I don't use Reddit or /pol/, but thanks for playing.
>>62142351
False flags and people pretending to be idiots which brings actual idiots to the conversation

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>>62142385
But aren't you the one false flagging because you've got something to lose here?

>>62142401
I have nothing to lose, I don't know what gave you that idea.

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>>62142424
Then why is there so much resistance and false-flagging against AdNauseam? If it bothers you so much, why not start a thread to create a plugin ourselves to ensure privacy and security? Instead, all I see are petty ad hominem attacks and threats to report us to the FBI.

>>62142351
If you want to make a redditor mad, tell them Rick & Morty Season 3 sucks

>>62142443
I wouldn't even care if AdNauseum gave Google my home address and blood type with every click. What do I care? Google knows everyone already. Look up Highland Forum

>>62135195
People against it are probably cucks using google adsense.

>>62142443
Are you now trying to imply that I'm against using the extension? The only thing in this entire thread that I commented on was some anon lumping people he didn't like with boards or sites he didn't like simply because they are both things he doesn't like.

Anyone else find adnaseum never gets any hits because they're using an adblocker?

>>62142502
You're supposed to disable all other adblockers. That's why we recommend you install it on another profile or separate browser.

>>62135195
Fuck off man why would I install bloat add-ons.

I have dedicated hardware ad firewall take your nigger shit out of this board

>>62142730
>I went into a thread about something I dislike and now I'm upset. How could this be happening to me?

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>ads become ineffective
>sites stop using them
>they aren't neets living off their parents so they start charging people to use websites like 4chan and youtube

thank god these uninformed anarchist wannabes are a minority

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>>62143008
>thank god these uninformed anarchist wannabes are a minority
Yep, now you can go sleep safe and sound now.

>>62143008
>Sites that do that die because people who use paywall sites are far fewer than those who don't
>The internet becomes less corporate because of this
This can only be good things anon

>>62143038
>charge you for everything instead of letting advertisers pay for you
better save for the 4chan pass if you want to keep shitposting

>>62143056
>Don't use the sites that put up pay walls
>They go under
>No longer have to deal with ads tracking you either
Where is the negative in this?

>>62143056
>>62143008
they are already charging you to use the internet you retarded fuck
unless you are living off your parents
go back to red dit

>>>62135195
>"/g/"

"/g/" is a very small subset of /g/ that is crossposting from /pol/ and /v/ they are very vocal and they endorse the botnets out of easy of use

expect advocacy of proprietary software and windows my default

>>62143008
>Everything is great so long Google keeps making money off me

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fuck ads they allow a open attack vector and prevent access with legacy hardware/software

>invasive in screen location and also blocking specific content or hypertext link/button
>steals bandwidth
>robs memory/cpu/gpu cycles
>depletes filesystem writes
>if enforced requires use of proprietary protocols ie JS or flash or access is denied
>identifies you across multiple sites and platforms based on window size/language ect
>data-mine and sell to 3rd parties even if they dont get clicks
>used in the past and also frequently this past year to implant malware

turns out anyone can sign up without verification or auditing to have their ads broadcasted to reveue

google themselves have been combating these types of ads by delisting them from google sites

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/21/technology/google-advertising-apologizes-ad.html

https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/302213/can-google-combat-annoying-digital-ads.html

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/21/technology/google-advertising-apologizes-ad.html

maybe someone can make a picture dictating their hypocrisy

All memes considered though, the ONLY reason 99% of the web exists is because of profit from ads
Imagine the internet goimg back to an early 2000s state population wise with only hobbyists around
This really makes me happy

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>>62143154
>"Google Tries to Stop Ads From Appearing Next to Hate Speech"

>"Google's Chrome browser to block some ads starting next year"

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tn-google-chrome-ad-block-20170602-story.html

What dictates "hate speech"?
>Chrome blocking sites
>Demonitizing "hate speech" platforms.

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"George Soros Buys Google, Liberty Global, Sells Citigroup"

"George Soros Acquires Stakes In Alphabet, Netflix As Both Corps"

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/george-soros-buys-google-liberty-global-sells-citigroup-aig-ge-apple-cm246602

https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/02/george-soros-buys-stake-in-netflix-google/

THE BOTNET GROWS

>>62143191
>What dictates "hate speech"?
I-don't-agree speech
>>62143263
As if I didn't need any more reasons to wage a war against Schmoogle

Is this add-on useful if you want to support a website while still blocking?

>>62143333
Yeah definitely. They get all of their ads clicked

>>62135195
You need to understand your opponent's point of view. You do not have to agree, but try to understand. Seeing that we are in [current year], that means that you need to curb your urge to call your opponent a Nazi, and use The Brain(r)(tm).

Ads are universally hated by people. They are distracting, can carry malware, use bandwidth, and can be animated/with sound. When you block ads, you are doing yourself a service. However, you are also doing a disservice to the people who bought those ads, as they paid for them. We tend to think of this disservice as being minor, as tonnes of people do not use adblock, and ad cost-per-view is quite low.

Adnauseam, also does a disservice to the people who bought ads, but the disservice is greater. Cost-per-click is significantly higher than cost-per-view, and as such the damage can be significant. If adblock blocks an ad, the advertiser loses 0.01, but if the user blocks and bot-clicks the ads, then it costs the advertiser 0.25! One adnauseam user can do as much damage as 25 adblock users!

This is why some browsers/users are fighting back much more against bot-clickers, when they were cool with adblock before. Maybe you do not agree, but at least now you understand.

And before you call me a Nazi: I am anti-ad, and I think adnauseam is fair. If it can force advertisers to change their business model to something less annoying, then it will make the internet better for us all. I hate how ad-infested the internet is, and I encourage everyone to use adblock.

...but I understand why some people disagree with adnauseam.

>>62143403
t. soros shill

>>62138023
Considering most of the internet is either amateur bullshit, porn, and advertisements, nothing of value would be lost.

>>62135195
There's no free lunch. That's a cornerstone of economics. Ads are fine. However being profiled and your data being mined is not, at least to the section of people who care. It's laudable what these guys were attempting to do, but it makes sense for Google to not be on board. It devalues online advertising which is a very bad thing for Google.

>>62143431
t. google/soros shill

>>62135212
only a problem if you're american

>>62140179
I feel like my unbridled porn consumption would overpower the bots ability to mask it

>>62143431
>That's a cornerstone of economics.
I'm not some sniveling business major, I just want free stuff.

>>62138023
It only fucks with advertisers that tracks users. We are voting with our browsers that we like to click shitty ads from companies that track, until that practice is unprofitable. Adapt or die is not anarchy.

>>62143403
So what is the solution?
Use a virtual machine with a browser that goes go a list of sites, then spams the advertising?
Setup a bunch of servers to do the same thing?
Should we all go for a specific site to take down or is the goal to end all advertising (not gonna happen)

>>62143403
Telling; how a namefag is one of the few voices of reason on nug/

Everything you said is true, but there is one more factor in this equation. Every click goes to some kind of tracker, and you click a lot.

Right now the trackers aren't designed for it and adnauseum will make your data worthless, but at some point the trackers might account for adnauseum, and then they can make money off of selling your extremely-detailed browsing habits. That's why people are screaming botnet. Adnauseum is botnet, but it does hit the advertised target. It's a tradeoff you can decide on yourself.

If you want to make a better plugin you need it to google for stuff like mortages, holidays, and everything else you can think of; visit a random page; and click on ads there. That will disjoin the data sent to trackers from your actual browsing habits.

>>62143522
>So what is the solution?
As long as the advertising agencies can do whatever they want, there will be no solution. Online ads are currently unregulated, unsupervised, and unchecked. As long as this continues to be the case, then anything that users do to fight back is legit IMHO.

>is the goal to end all advertising
This is not realistic. But getting advertisers to behave ethically IS realistic.

>>62143728
>, there will be no solution

Don't be a fucking smartass, smartass. He's asking for something actionable, and I don't think you're implying the only thing he can do is call his representatives.

>>62143873
What exactly can a person do vs multi-billion advertising companies?

>>62135195
>We should be able to use google's own product to harm google's profit margins.

I don't think ads are good. I use Ublock Origin and NoScript. That said, you're attacking Google's profit margin, using one of google's products. What did you think would happen?

>>62143979
You're on a forum. You're not one person.

>>62143979
Actually, exactly what everyone has been doing until now. Just use ad-blockers and/or bot-clickers, recommend them to everyone.

Last week I heard an interview of the CEO of a famous advertising agency: he was criticizing the whole internet ads industry and how fucking terrible it is because people are so sick of it that everybody has an adblocker now. And then basically explained how he's trying to push for more "ethical" ads (i.e. ads that actually don't prevent you from watching the content you want, aren't as bloated, etc.).

It's just one shitty jew responsible for the state of the internet and his only reason to be mad at his peers is because he makes less money, agreed. But I consider this a step forward desu.

>>62143403
>This is why some browsers/users are fighting back much more against bot-clickers
Google blocked the extension it because it can get away with it - not because of the extent of damage. It can't block adblockers since that would cause people to switch browsers.
Firefox is fighting against it because Firefox does what google tells it to do.
Palememe was probably bought off. Labeling Adnauseum as malware is just laughable.

>>62144526
>Firefox is fighting against it because Firefox does what google tells it to do.
Why though?

>>62144730
My guess is Google infiltrated Firefox upper management.

>>62135195
Ads have always existed and will always exist. This shitware you're shilling will just make things worse. They'll start additionally charging you per website you visit, or the internet will become an even more invasive shithole. Because something has to pay for the webdevs and servers. Fighting against ads is retarded when there are better things to fight against, for example make an uprising against ISPs. They shouldn't exist in the first place and everyone should be able to access the internet without them. They're a much bigger concern than ads which you can fucking block anyway.

Are you trying to devalue the cost of an ad so you can purchase ad space? Are you trying to fuck over Google? Because Microsoft is a much bigger concern than Google. What's the point of that shitty addon when it will not do anything in the short run and destroy everything in the long run?

i tried months ago, it before it was in vogue with your political activism justice warriors troupe
i didn't like it, it let ads through for me to view, i stopped using it the second day

i'm even less likely to use it today, as i don't need to be associated with your group
i am pro-privacy, not pro-self politicizing

>>62140482
t. Desperate Jewgle engineer who doesnt understand how the internet works.

>>62145853
what did he say wrong?

>>62138023
I don't defend the ban.
BTW I use Firefox because I am not stupid and Adnauseam is a pretty good exetension if only it weighted less

Trying to kill ads is fucking retarded, you have already been able to just block them with ease while tech illiterates keep viewing/clicking them. Why would you want to get rid of ads altogether? What do you think will happen to free sites when there's no way to generate passive revenue through ads? We have the best setup right now, we get to use sites for free without ads while normies keep supplying them with ad revenue.

>b-but it will hurt g-google!
Way to cut off your nose to spite your face.

>>62140654
It is false.
Neocities is free and has no ads.

>>62140766
How much is your daily wage? To they pay you a tot for post?
Torrents are not paywalled.

>>62135195
>/pol/ hates jews
>extension made by jews being extensively shilled on /pol/
something doesn't add up here
>>62138023
it's not a ban, it's raising of the security level of a shady addon