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Node.js forked over alleged CoC violations

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>Reasons for fork:
>"Repeated ToC violations by an authority figure went unaddressed."
>https://twitter.com/alicegoldfuss/status/900109726872068096
>Not sure what ToC is, but the alleged violations appear to be of Code of Conduct.
>Alleged violations are described here: https://twitter.com/ohhoe/status/899748838302302212
>Most links are private, but here are the public ones:
>https://twitter.com/rvagg/status/887652116524707841
>https://twitter.com/rvagg/status/887790865766268928
>https://twitter.com/captainsafia/status/887782785221615618
>https://twitter.com/nodebotanist/status/887724138516951049
(https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15078995)

The fork is at https://github.com/ayojs/ayo.
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>social justice and codes of conduct
>'developers' with pronouns in their twitter bios
>feminists with aposematic hair
>nodejs

All shit that nobody cares about
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>>62114234
>aposematic
If you were wondering, that means "warning colors".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aposematism
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AYO HOL UP
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>>62114276
Exactly.
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>>62114317
>aposematism
>antisemitism

SJW broads confirmed for nazis.
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>>62114234
>>62114173
This Node.js shit going on right now is particularly egregious since the neon-color dyed hair women who are trying to kick out the one developer are using "muh privacy" shit to prevent the accused from disclosing the specifics of their accusation.

It's a SJW/FOSS witch hunt at its apex.
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>>62114173
honeslty node needs to be forked by less stupid people or ECMA needs to get off their ass and make a "desktops and servers" spec that just extends exactly what's outlaid already.

node's dubious runtime choices of doing really stupid shit like wrapping source files in function wrappers now make it at odds with ECMA6 anyhow. fuck them.
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>>62114404
Quality post.
>>62114425
Do you think this is the apex? That would be nice, but I am afraid SJWs won't rest until tech is completely split along the now-forming political lines. Like, if you contribute to project A, project B will scan your GitHub history and ban you on sight.
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>>62114173
wtf I love node.js now
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A fork with no reason of existence. Not that I care since I don't use node.
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>>62114510
D A R T
A
R
T
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>>62114587
And they say National Socialists aren't really Socialists.
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>>62114595
no thanks. I don't want more transpiling aids.

also last I looked dart is basically dead. their binary package link points a 403 forbidden and no distro packages their runtime.

not only that ECMA6 and 7 basically added literally anything good about dart in javascript anyhow.

I just want Joyent to get fucked. their bindings are half assed and their JS is even worse.
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I was thinking of picking up Node on my vacation for API development with Express, but this whole code of conduct shit was giving me the second thoughts (I was almost going for Swing). Let's hope with this fork the node.js becomes focused on real coding.
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>>62114644
>I don't want more transpiling aids.
None is needed on desktops and servers.
https://www.dartlang.org/dart-vm
https://aqueduct.io/
>also last I looked dart is basically dead
It is back because +++Google+++ now uses it internally.
https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/26/googles-dart-programming-language-returns-to-the-spotlight/
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>>62114510
https://openresty.org/en/ is superior to Node.js.
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>>62114672
This fork is by the SJW's so don't expect any coding, lots of issues regarding COC, white males and other bullshit.

Anything these new gen feminists touch goes to shit so please let them all be contained into their own shit repo and we can look at them like they are in a fucking petting zoo.
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>>62114595
Dart is an different language which doesn't allow direct interaction with JS, has no implicit type conversion but meanwhile neither static typing. Also they give no shit of making a REPL.
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>>62114173
>conduct coders create their own feel-fork
>Node devs continue working on Node
Doesn't seem like a bad deal really.
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>>62114778

>nodebotanist

Liberalism bring the worst of us
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>>62114762
>petting
That's rape.
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>>62114704
ya i know but like i said.
apt search dart
does not return dart.
dnf search dart
doesn't return shit either and fedora 26 pretty much packages everything under the sun which makes me wary of using the language.

>>62114746
>lua

ya ok man, whatever.
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>SJW fork maintained by warning color hair "developers"
They will write a whole book of a CoC and nothing else, the fork will die very quickly.
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>>62114805
Is 'botanist' of higher rank than 'artisan'?

>>62114919
Dart also requires some bizarre internal Google build tool (that they built because existing build tools were not flexible enough for certain cross-platform Chrome-related thing) to build the binary.
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https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/issues/17
says here "help wanted". who is better in making logos than /g/
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>>62114953
>that they built because existing build tools were not flexible enough for certain cross-platform Chrome-related thing

now I'm further turned off the thing. lol
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>>62114974
Subscribed.
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>>62114644
>>62114510
so are you sticking with node are you going to switch to something else like go? i want to know where nodejs developers are going.
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>>62114746
this x inf

>>62114919
nginx is c, you can use plenty more languages in your handlers e.g. java, but lua is pretty comfy
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>>62114173
issues and pr section is mostly trolls
https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/issues/24
https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/issues/29
https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/issues/28
https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/issues/27
https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/issues/20
https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/pull/32
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>>62115075
what do you use openresty for?
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>>62114974
Which one of you did the last one?
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HOLY SHIT.
WHEN WILL THIS FUCKIN SJW SHIT FINALLY STOP? I DONT LIKE THIS MEME. MAKE IT STOP PLEASE.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
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>>62114998
They had to use it because of Dart has integration w/ Chrome to allow build of Chrome with native Dart support enabled.
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$ ayo holUp.js
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>>62115146
kek
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>>62115146
>so u is sayin?
init()
>woah hol up hol up...
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So all the triggered trannies are trying to take their ball and go home? What precisely is the issue? Let them. And then ignore them once they do.
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>>62114173
Quick rundown:

So there are 3 alleged issues against this guy Rod Vagg:
1. He apologized to a user who had been moderated. (He admitted he shouldn't have done this, and apologized for weighing in on the issue without getting context.)

2. He used names of companies when commenting on a public issue, and failed to edit his post. (He says he did edit his post soon after, but wasn't specifically told to remove the company names.)

3. He tweeted an "inflammatory anti-code-of-conduct article", and then tweeted screencaps of responses, which showed his pleasure in upsetting people. (The article was about speech codes on college campuses, and he tweeted it asking people to consider the downsides of CoCs. He tweeted the screencap saying he wanted to start a discussion, and the tweets in the picture were 1: saying they wanted to shit on his laptop, and 2: asking if he was an idiot.)

So basically, the TSC (I think) was asked to vote on whether they should kick him out of it, and they were split, but the majority voted not to kick him out.

Then, some people got angry, including some TSC members, and decided to fork Node.js into Ayo.js. "Ayo" is pronounced "I.O.", and is a play on a fork that was made a while back called io.js whose purpose was to introduce some new technical features to Node.js, and was later merged back into Node. In comparison, Ayo hasn't really done anything of value, and is basically just a fork for political purposes. Someone requested that NPM add support for Ayo.js, but (at least the dev who responded) said it didn't add anything of value. (NPM did support io.js when that was a thing.)
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>>62115097
>As an open and welcoming community, I suggest not stating how "ayo" is pronounced. Instead, let's gracefully accept all pronunciations.
>[Edit by @zkat: Bye ]
>{ Title Removed } #20
>zkat changed the title from [redacted title for intentionally racist content] to [redacted] 13 hours ago
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>>62114762
Yep, I meant that with those cancerous people focused on their own trigger-safe bastion of CoCs maybe that shit will move away from the Node.js repo.
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>>62115175
absolutely disgusting
migrating my project to golang right fucking now
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>>62115232
but this is a good thing. now that all sick people are gone, node can finally be a happy place
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>>62115102
webapps/sites (saas), the available modules and documentations are best in class imo

openresty + postgres, I just copy over the .conf and
>docker build;docker run;
for deployment, ez

currently making a html5+websocket game
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>>62115232
anon, it means that Node is now free of those kind of people, since they all hopped over to their new political correct fork instead.
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>>62114173
All I did was click on a link and saw
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>>62115289
She's a qt tho.
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>>62115216
Thanks for a good post.
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>>62115073
I'm using nodejs because I"m not fucking using gjs or some other bullshit completely different desktop javascript and my life is dependent on fucking javascript anyhow.

also i like javascript, but I'm not a huge fan of Node.js
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>>62115302
She is a 3.5/10 whose only limit on screeching is her anorexia.
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Guys, this is actually a great thing - we will see how TolenUX would be run in real life.
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>>62115289
As if you needed any more proof that web development is irredeemable cancer.
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>>62115216
Article he posted: http://archive.is/9NDIK
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>>62115075
>nginx is c, you can use plenty more languages in your handlers e.g. java, but lua is pretty comfy

ya ok, whatever. I read the project description and it has nothing to do with my complaints of node.js

I don't use node just for webapps, I use it as a full fledged desktop scripting language because I actually like it and find it better than python in almost every way other than the underlying runtime and OS apis.
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>>62115175
https://twitter.com/aredridel
https://twitter.com/nodebotanist
https://twitter.com/maybekatz
https://twitter.com/ReBeccaOrg
https://twitter.com/seldo
https://twitter.com/addaleax

>>62115302
more qts
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>>62115364
also to add on that. gjs use to be ok but gnome 3 has been dropping the ball hard on gjs. I don't want to write GNOME's fucking interpretation of C#/Java (Vala) and GTK+ is gross without using Vala because fucking C.
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>>62115426
>:large.jpg
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>>62115289
lmao that filename
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I can't wait until someone decides Electron needs to support both Node and Ayo. In the future, I imagine there will be a million choices for using Electron, instead of the default Chromium/Node.js/V8.

>Do you want Node.js or Ayo.js or [third meme competitor].js?
>And are you going to use V8, Chakra, Nitro, Spidermonkey?
>And Chromium or Servo?
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>>62115426
NPM is run by know nothing trannies. This explains so much.
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>>62115232
> golang
https://golang.org/conduct

C++ is where it's at.
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>>62114173
another meme project
http://my.pronoun.is/
https://github.com/witch-house/pronoun.is
there are few nice trolls in issues/pulls
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>>62115510

> Microaggressions

ay lmao
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>>62115509
that's why it's slow as fuck. and that why i'm migrating to yarn
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Yes! I've been waiting for this to happen. I didn't know if it'd be nodejs or golang, since those two groups are very infiltrated. I was betting on nodejs just because it collects shit like a boot when coming back drunk at night.

I hope we get more of these events so that people finally wake up and notice what these parasites are doing. I remember github from 6-7 years ago and it looked like a great, young company. Now it's more of an indoctrination camp / platform for hurling abuse.

It's interesting to see how radicals have converged on the biggest code publishing platform - wouldn't be surprised if they added a button to report projects for triggering them.

Everyone that gets burnt by this kind of attack is one more person that will stand against them.

A few years back, anti-SJW comments on HN were downvoted into oblivion. Now they merit thoughtful replies because more and more people are getting scared that the carpet's being pulled out from under their feet.
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>>62115480
>not %28%28%28engineer%29%29%29
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>>62115556
protip, no one uses yarn because it's even dumber.

also package-lock.json now so yarn is basically deprecated.
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>>62115521
>that design
>Hu brought hus frisbee.
>Thon threw the frisbee to thonself.
Holy shit, I think I got transported to the living meme dimension
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>>62115572
>%28%28%28engineer%29%29%29
>uri encoded bracket.

do people actually do that?
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>>62115592
seems that it's abandoned. i'm probably gonna make pr and replace thon with thot
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>>62115574
>package-lock.json
shiggy diggy
that shit is so broken, and noone cares to fix it
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>>62115651
what's the problem?
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>>62114173
found this guy somewhere in ayyyo issues
https://github.com/lewiscowper
"feminist ally trying to improve"

has this nice repo
https://github.com/lewiscowper/shitty.men
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Someone pls propose this logo
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>>62114628
Conservashits are also socialists. Everyone's a socialist about things they really care about more than money.

Turns out though, most of the self-styled "liberal democratic socialist," type are now totally comfortable being the spearhead of hyper-violent post-apocalyptic capitalism because they get to victimize white men first.

Weird.
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Node has been 'forked' almost 8000 times already.
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>>62115676
package-lock is:open sort:comments-desc
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What is node.js license and what is the forked projects license?

If they aren't GPL compatible why are we even talking about them??

>using a language with a TOS/COC

WTF???
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>>62115730
but this fork is most likely to fail

>>62115709
you do it. don't be a faggot. i'll give you a thumbs up emoji
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>>62115574
>no one uses yarn because it's even dumber
If that were true, it would be quite an achievement considering https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14979522.
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>>62115701
He should be reported for running a harassment website off GitHub.
https://github.com/contact/report-abuse
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>>62115840
i doubt they will remove it, but i'm gonna try just in case
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>>62115714
Today's conservashits are 1950's progressives, duh.
>Everyone's a socialist about things they really care about more than money.
Either you have an unusual definition of a socialist, or you need to study pre-20th century history.
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>>62115800
ok, fair enough.

does yarn actually work then?
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>>62115956
Bake that fucking cake you libertarian cunt.
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>>62115994
I am not a libertarian. My political views are actually easy to infer from what I said about conservatives and the fact that I am telling you to study history on a technology board.
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>>62115960
Yes. It's built by transgenders from Facebook, which are waay better than npm transgenders
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>>62116081

ok, I'm fully convinced. it's like 1000x faster too. good shit right here.

thanks for letting me know my man.
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>>62116051
You need to check your privilege and stop mansplaining to me fascist.
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noone posted a logo? you guys are weak
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>>62115730
thats just idiots that don't know how to star
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bumping for meem potential
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>>62114317
I mean, I think you're right, but your image shows two girls or whatever they are with natural hair color, at least, it could be natural
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>>62115709
proposed it

https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/issues/17#issuecomment-325212971

like it faggots
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>>62116654
KEK
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>>62116654
the madman
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>>62116654
Ayyyy
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Leaving aside, entirely, the inevitable shitstorm that this board will conjure over who forked it, it's a near-universal truth that forking something - a project or a community - for a negative reason tends to produce negative results.

Blackjack and hookers... ah, screw the whole thing.
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the stupidest shit i ever read
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>>62114425
he's not even a developer, the guy just writes doc. They do even less.
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>>62114919
I am a Fedora packager, you want me to add dart to the repos?
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we should do something like "gayO" colored in lgbt flag, and add all gender symbols on the O letter
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>>62116654
rip
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>literally one of the dykes who left because "he called me a she instead of a xir REEEEEEEEEE"
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>>62114762
I hope they start doing this self-containment thing more often.
Also nice to see Node (which I thought was super-cucked) sticking to its guns. JS might not be so bad.
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>>62115289
she's kinda qt tbqh f.am
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>>62117141
does someone have any old throwaway account? i might do this, but i want it to seem legit at first, and later edit post to add letter g
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>>62115105
kek, the mods are butthurt as fuck
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>>62117231

She must have such a distorted view of the world due to everyone around her having to step on eggshells all the time out of fear of offending her. It's funny just how clueless these people are.
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Friendly reminder that this person will be hired over you because tech is no longer a meritocracy.
It's not only about who you know, but what your political stance is.
And being "normal" is no longer acceptable.
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>>62118056
i liked indians more
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>>62117081
Up to you my man.
I don't really plan on using it.

I imagine someone might want one. let me know if you need help; I can make the rpm spec file
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>>62116654
dude did github banned you?
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>>62118299
Nah purged the account myself after some consideration.
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>>62114173
>https://twitter.com/nodebotanist/status/887724138516951049
>They/them, DevRel Engineer @iopipes. NodeBots addict/author. >@tesselproject OSS group. EE @ASU. Autistic Goth NB . >Attempted/Alleged Intersectional Feminist

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>62115601
What does the RFC say about parentheses?
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>>62118519
>Autistic Goth NB .
>Attempted/Alleged Intersectional Feminist
wtf does that even mean
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>>62117785
bump
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>>62118613
Tumblr. It means Tumblr.
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>>62118519
>devrel engineer

So not a dev not an engineer and barely an HR person.

Wew.
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>>62118540
I don't know. i know Wikipedia doesn't give a shit for instance

and to be honest, everytime i regexp links i just fucking match all non whitespace.

hell a lot of webservers will accept pretty much fucking anything.

so who gives a shit what the rfc says.
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>>62117255
I like the Titanic symbolism.
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>>62118056

why the fuck are you posting the censored version
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lmao
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>>62115521
https://github.com/witch-house/pronoun.is/pull/61
classic
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>>62119956
>we made our own version
>but we will continue shitting up yours anyways
...
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https://github.com/varjmes/notes/tree/master/compsci Variames, this guy is really retarded wtf. He's self-learning first year compsci material and thinks he's a genius.
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>>62115709
Someone do this
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>>62120206
> He's self-learning first year compsci
Learn basic algorithm ideas.
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>>62117141
>>62117785
i made a few designs, but they disabled commenting for new users
so if someone has older throwaway account, or just doesn't give a fuck, please post them
the idea is to make it look as legit as possible, get all updoots, and later (maybe day after) just edit that post with something triggering (add g so it spells gayO, or some shit like that)

images are here:
https://my.mixtape.moe/quozxn.png
https://my.mixtape.moe/jfsddw.png
https://my.mixtape.moe/igyait.png

>>62120214
someone already did that, but it was deleted
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>>62114173
Ayo begins name black women singer.
http://www.ayomusic.com

Nothing is better to fight white men using ayo as diversity speaks.

Just some cartoon version singer as symbol diversity as logo.

A lot software projects begins name in honor singers.
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>>62120265
https://github.com/varjmes/notes/blob/master/compsci/learning.md
No he's a fucking retard who doesn't belong in this industry
> If you can recognise an algorithm as part of NP (or, not part of P), you can avoid it
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>>62120473
Yes he just read basic Wikipedia algorithms begins unable to solven algorithm problems or use basic proof
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>codes of conduct, multiple different committees like steering committee, more bureaucracy than any proprietary project
>obsession with inclusiveness, everyone can contribute, increasing number of contributors when in reality less is more, too many chefs in kitchen etc.
>my vote didn't win lolresign, lolfork
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>>62120298
Don't stop at the logo. Remember to update the code of conduct and maybe remove all insensitive variable names in a new PR
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>>62120616
>>>>open-source
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>>62120298
bumpin for this
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>>62120537
>>62120473
>>62120265
>>62120206
>he
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https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/issues/17#issuecomment-325055204
this guy is absolute hero
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>>62120206
https://github.com/varjmes/notes/blob/master/compsci/data_structures.md#hash-tables

This hashtable implementation is kind of fucked. I assume he just copied it from a book, so it's not entirely his fault.

Basically it just hashes a key to get an index, and then stores the value at that index, without any consideration for space. I understand the need to simplify things, but I worry that someone is gonna try and implement a hashtable like this.

Oh, also, the hash algorithm sometimes produces negative numbers, so that would break everything.
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>>62116654
> on an image board
> posts link to an image
Kill yourself.
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>>62120206
>polyam transmasc queer
>agender
what is this shit. where should i put my penis when i fuck they/them
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>Ubuntu's repository right now has both nodejs-legacy and nodejs
>Will now have nodejs-legacy, nodejs, and ayo
>All do the same fucking thing, but will have slight incompatibilities because "yolo let's make a new fork"

God damn people are retarded.
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>>62121077
All male penetration is rape
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>>62121100
but he is they. one of them is probable female
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>>62121077

Everyone has an asshole, Anon.
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>>62121080
>SJW are retarded
fixed that for you
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>>62115146
zozzle
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>>62121112
"transmasc" means "assigned female at birth"
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>>62121080
What are you talking about? Forking is the healthiest way to handle disagreements, even, and especially, stupid ones. If Debuntoo can't install nodejs-legacy, nodejs, and ayo, ayo2 and byo at the same time, Debuntoo's simplistic dependency management is to blame. Nix/Guix can handle as many versions of a single piece of software as you want.
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>>62121506
what a waste
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This is the most positive outcome for NodeJS. If all the SJWs leave, they might actually make it, you know, not suck.

Who am I kidding. It's JavaScript. It will always suck.
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>>62115281
Man, if this happened, I'd be so happy.

But sadly, I heard the SJWs have been making plans to change the rules for electing members of the TSC and force the TSC to merge with another committee, in order to trigger new elections, according to (((their))) rules.

I hope this won't happen. These fucks need to be purged from the node community. They give a bad name to node and to everything they lay their hands on.
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>>62114173
Again?
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>>62121901
TJ switched to Go, and so should you.
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>>62121064
It was literally the image from the post he replied to, and he posted a link for people here to promote it.
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>>62122017
>I have no personality, gotta follow some hipster-programmer who will change languages every two years, just because he needs to keep his edginess
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>>62122221
Sticking to server-side JavaScript === less personality than following a hipster.
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>>62122479
Serverside Javascript is doing it the hard way.

Only pussies choose the easy, convenient way.

Gotta carve your way using a Swiss knife.
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>>62122532
>Digging ditches with appropriate hand tools is a simple and almost ennobling, in its own small way, form of manual labor which is ideally suited to the condition of most humans, delicate aristocrats perhaps excepted. ... Digging ditches with spoons is a degrading punishment appropriate only for refractory pedophiles.
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>>62122017
>Go
Yeah let's switch from an hipster language to an even shittier hipster language regardless of merits based purely on social trends.
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>>62122532

>Serverside Javascript is doing it the hard way.

The retarded way
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>>62115510
C++ has a natural filter simply because you can't do a two day bootcamp on it and then call yourself a developer.
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>>62115521
Anybody want to fork this project and restrict it to just male and female pronouns, with a description that it's the fork with only the real pronouns for real people?
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>>62122590
Real men dig ditches with their bear hands.
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>>62122602
Then switch to something else if you don't like Go There is no lack of choice.
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>>62122602
Worse even, let's switch to a language made by Gewgle which is more infested by SJW shit than even JS.
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>>62122664
kek. will do
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>>62122681
>Go
>more infested by SJW shit than even JS
Justify your claim.
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>>62122670
Human beings use their minds.
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>>62115390
>Regarding the request for me to resign from the CTC: in lieu of clear justification that my removal is for the benefit of the Node.js project, or a case for my removal that is not built primarily on hearsay and innuendo, I respectfully decline.
>There are two primary reasons for which I am standing my ground.
>I cannot, in good conscience, give credence to the straw-man version of me being touted loudly on social media and on GitHub. This caricature of me and vague notions regarding my “toxicity”, my propensity for “harassment”, the “systematic” breaking of rules and other slanderous claims against my character has no basis in fact. I will not dignify these attacks by taking tacit responsibility through voluntary resignation.
>Secondly, and arguably more importantly for the CTC: I absolutely will not take responsibility for the precedent that is currently being set. The dogged pursuit of a leader of this project, the strong-arm tactics being deployed with the goal of having me voluntarily resign, or my eventual removal from this organisation are not the behavior of a healthy, productive, or inclusive community.
>My primary concern is that the consequences of these actions endanger the future health of the Node.js project. I do not believe that I am an irreplaceable snowflake (I’m entirely replaceable). There is reason to pause before making this an acceptable part of how we conduct our governance and our internal relationships.
>However, while I am not happy to have the burden of this decision being foisted upon all of you, I am content with standing to be judged by this group. As the creative force behind Node.js and the legitimate owners of this project, my respect for you as individuals and as a group and your rightful position as final arbiters of the technical Node.js project makes entirely comfortable living with whatever decision you arrive at regarding my removal.
Respectable.
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>>62122900
>He's going to get removed because they are going to scream loud enough that no one else wants to put up with it anymore
I don't like this timeline
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>fork a project because someone didn't call you xir
>people defend these groups on /g/
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>>62123112
No one is defending them seriously
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>>62123122
It's there's a single truth to 4chan it's that the ironic brings the unironic.
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>>62123146
Definitely. I don't necessarily agree with people defending them ironically, mind you, but I don't think people in this thread are actually defending them yet
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>>62114317
Red hair is beautiful when it's natural, only time you need to worry is when it's obvious dye job.
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>>62115216
quality post
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>>62114173
Some girl start fight post this on twitter
"Men are fragile, often incompetent babies with no sense of humor, and I like reminding them of their inferiority."
Answer :
you literally crawled my twitter account for whatever seemed incriminating and quoted it out of context.

have you considered that maybe you were creepy, and there's a difference between tweets being public and creepy dudes creeping on my TL for the dirt? I'm less bothered that you found tweets that I'm perfectly fine having made, and more like holy shit who's this dude being stalkery

maybekatz
https://www.reddit.com/r/node/comments/6w1sv3/after_governance_breakdown_nodejs_leaders_fight/

"hi

do you use node -at all-?

You're running my code. Every day. You're also running the code of about a dozen of the folks involved in the fork. A lot of it.

It's funny that you think this is done by a bunch of folks who do nothing but sit around a room doing nothing, yet here you are, on reddit ;)"
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>>62114308
seriously underrated post
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>>62115510
C++ truly is a bastion of truth in these difficult times

what will happen to computer science when we lose Linus and Bjarne? their struggle against each other holds the world in balance.
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>>62121751
agreed
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>>62118744
What's a devrel engineer?
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>>62120298
noone?
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1kasper, are you /ourguy/?
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>>62114173
Is using Ayo instead of Node going to get me laid? No, it isn't, because nobody cares. The sourcecode doesn't change because of politics.
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>>62114173
This is a literal nothing.

A bunch of attention whores and weak willed men forked the project.
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>>62125693
>Is using Ayo instead of Node going to get me laid?
In San Francisco? It may, but you probably won't like it.
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So, ayo.js is a fork that tries to enforce code of conduct? It's hard to make any sense of things from links.
>>
Business opportunity: try to outcompete GitHub on SJWness. For example, you can apply machine learning to detect and report CoC violations by contributors, both on and off the website itself.
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>>62115224
leld
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>https://www.reddit.com/r/node/comments/6whs2e/multiple_coc_violations_by_nodejs_board_member/

I am sure the board will kick her out, right? Right?..
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>>62127727
i updooted
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>It seems vastly more likely that Newton, a gay asexual neurodivergent man, would be bullied out of academia without a CoC to protect him.
What the fuck did I just read. How exactly can someone be homosexual and asexual at the same time?
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>>62127834
he is asexual, but if someone is going to rape him, he hopes it will be a man
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>>62127834
Does it matter? That means you're in two (2) minorities because of your sexual orientation, which means you have more oppression points than others.

But seriously — asexual just means you're not interested in sex. You can still have a romantic relationship and enjoy things like cuddling with others, hence it's possible to have preferences who you'd want to be in a relationship with.
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>>62127861
Homosexual - sexually attracted to the same sex.
Asexual - feeling no sexual attraction.

You can't be both by definition.
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>>62127902
are we seriously gonna argue about that here?
you also can't be a female if you have a penis
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>>62127902
>sexual
That's the thing. Sex isn't necessary to have a relationship with someone. You can be attracted to others without having it revolve around sex.
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>>62127834
>>62127834

>he didn't take gender diversity class in uni

lad how ignorant are you lmao @ urself
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This whole thread makes me want to leave technology, the industry is too tainted. All these garbage cunts latching onto the industry because there's lots of money in it and their incompetance and mental disorders obligate them a free ride.
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>no.dejs
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>Complete list of contributions to Node by Ashley Williams
>https://github.com/nodejs/node/commits/master?author=ashleygwilliams
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The cunt made a fair point. Spergs are fuckin tards when it comes to normal people, how the fuck are they supposed to deal with this treading on eggshells bullshit? What will end up happening is spergs will get driven out of these projects, leaving them fallow and full of cunts. Meanwhile the nolife spergs will continue to pump out the goods until politics usurps their next project and the cycle continues.
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>>62128018
nodejs has 112 repos
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>pronounced like io
like the goddess?
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>>62128041
>112 repos
>1 commit in master
your point?
>>
https://thenewstack.io/node-js-forked-complaints-repeated-harassment/
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>>62128060
repo != branch
my point is your point is retarded
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>>62128041
>>62128060
Oh, repos, not branch. Fuck me
>>
post rare day9s
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>>62128513
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>>62127727
God i hope she gets kicked
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>>62128020
Huh it's forced evolution in that sense,maybe it's a good thing. The sjws jumped from Ruby to node and now here we are. The spergs just need to promote a new successor. Notice how none of these people are older, though? I've worked with some really talented women in tech that acted the same way they would have wanted everyone else to treat them, like a normal person and not a witch hunting sjw.

The only truly toxic women I've encountered in tech, was surprise, completely incompetent and tried to hide it by blaming the men of the group for being sexist. Meanwhile the other two very talented women of the group had no complaints and hated the other women as much as the males.
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>>62128018
>>62128041
>>62128060
>>62128087
>>62128094
>https://github.com/search?q=org%3Anodejs+author%3Aashleygwilliams
>literally no code contributions in the whole Node.js org
What now repos fangays?
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>>62131419
In contrast, Vaag's contributions to the org as a whole
>https://github.com/search?p=2&q=org%3Anodejs+author%3Arvagg&type=Commits
>2663 commits of actual code mostly
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>>62115216
thanks anon
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Id put my CoC in the Vagg if you know what I mean
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>>62118056

Irregardless of the gender crap, this person is a grade A sack of shit if they want to get coworkers fired over a few simple words that have no intentional hateful thought behind them. This thing is probably an outcast that no one wanted to speak to in the beginning anyway.
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>>62114173
A fork forged on emotions, sure it will get far.
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>>62131882
>Irregardless
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>>62127960
i'm sorry, anon. they're everywhere, even on vidya. no one is safe, it's only a matter of time until these abominations invade anime too
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>>62118140
Lol yeah you guys shit on pajeet but pajeet is not a whiney fucking bitch. Pajeet actually just wants to get work done instead of wanting his/her/xer coworkers fired for using the wrong pronoun.
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>>62128065
Nice spin.
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>>62127727
beautiful
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>>62115510
pirate engineer in 2014
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>>62131419
you are dumb as fuck, like the rest of that reddit shithole you came from
a person on board is not supposed to write code
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>>62115146
fucking kek
ayo wewuzkangs.js
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>>62133673
yeah that's true. but still, it's funny when a person with no code contributions wants to kick out a person with shitload of them when the project is 99% code. it would probably survive without any bureaucrats
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>>62134427
agree. shit like that prevents people that just want to write code from contribootin'
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>>62114173
>https://twitter.com/ohhoe/status/899748838302302212
"The vote came down 60% against removing Rod from the TSC and 60% against asking Rod to voluntarily resign."

TLDR: mentally ill people are crying because they want to remove a maintainer with different opinions from the project, the authority over the project voted against.
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>>62134814
Yep and then the dissenters quit. Lol imagine if everyone in congress just quit when a vote didn't go their way.
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Git gud and ignore the dingbat social justice warriors. With them it's like wrestling with pigs, you know the quote. I still think getting good has better return for investment than building a portfolio of sjw medium posts or angry sjw twitter following.
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https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/15011

Really good discussion regarding the COC.
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>>62115073
I'd use Elixir
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>>62136801
Elixir is a great language, but slow. If you can tolerate the poor error messages and the JVM, Clojure is much faster.
>>
FUGG :DDD
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>>62136925
they seem to get lost in details easily
could someone point out that COC should be changed to something else since it youd be interpreted as something highly offensive?
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>>62136985
>>>http://lgbtq.technology/
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>>62121080
reality: the fork will die in a month tops and nobody will use or package it
>>
What languages HAVEN'T been COC'ed yet?
>>
>the guys behind ayo are tweeting a bunch of anti-trump nonsense
>barely anything about development on their soc media accounts its literally all politics
literally wtf is going the fuck on
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>>62137028
archfags will
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>>62137028
That would be sad. I want them to virtue signal at least a few crappy startups into using it first.
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>>62137029
Haskell?
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>>62137029
ansi c
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>>62137029
I'd like it if you COC'd me.
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>>62137107
Are you wearing ProgrammerSocks?
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>>62137135
ones with pink glazed donut holes yeah
>>
>>62136903
True, it's single core performance is quite underwhelming, but it's very easy to parallelize.
Clojure is also a great choice, but I don't like the JVM
>>
https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/issues/34
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>>62137272
Literally npm take over node.js
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>>62137398
nah. npm people left nodejs
and considering npm is getting worse with every release, and people are using yarn, seems like things are getting better in js world
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>all these quasisexual agenderous fluidkins
Holy shit. I've interned in a few large software houses here in Germany during my undergrad days and while there were weirdos aplenty, I've never once met a tranny-clown. What is it with the whole gender autism and USA?
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>>62137499
autism manifests itself in really strange ways
in germany it's through furfags
in usa its through genital mutilation
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>>62137533
>in germany it's through cuckolding
fixed
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>>62137582
Ebyn, my fellow redpilled 'pede.
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>>62136801
>>62136903
>EliXir
is this some kind of special preferred pronoun?
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>>62137692
Uma delicia
> creator is from Brazil.
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>>62137774
Just like Lua, which is great
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>>62120298
>Ikea table
>weird molecule
>@
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>>62137853
i posted it
>>
just use PHP7 and Laravel
>>
>>62118613
>retarded, twilight fan, imaginary gender
>trying to believe that white woman "struggle" is the same as a black mans
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>>62137921
>PHP
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>>62137921
>implying I use node on the server
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>>62137499
San Franciso
>>
>>62137921
>>62138199
Laravel is fucking great though
>>
>>62140047
yes. i use it with javascript
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>>62136472
They don't often get jobs a major companies unless it's some sort of token sjw job, not normal engineering jobs. No one is going to risk hiring someone like that. I bet even github has learned its lesson .
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>>62114974
id like to put my logo in there but the comment section is closed to new members. im a github member since june2016. how long would it take to become a non-new github member?
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>>62141293
They closed it to contributers only, it's in one of links in this thread
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>>62141293
they closed it for everyone. i think you can only edit posts now. share it here, if it's a good meme i might update my post with it tomorrow
>>
>>62141293
https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/issues/34
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>>62114173
>most recently, Rod tweeted in support of an anti-code-of-conduct article

Someone disagreeing with me makes me a victim!
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They have a discord channel now

>https://github.com/ayojs/ayo/issues/12
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>>62141442
Are we in?
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>>62141949
Oh yeah, we're in. I'm hacking their Gibson as we speak
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>all these UGLY trannies

Did /g/ lie to me?
>>
>>62114173
We've already been through this. Over similar issues with mismanagement.

It was io.js, and had partial victory

This, i believe, will be even less short-lived
>>
>>62128579
>>62131419
>>62131510
i was on /d2g/ for TI man I gotta know dude, are you one person? how are pumping these out so fucking fast
>>
>>62115216
what the fuck does any of this post even mean

>He apologized to a user who had been moderated

why is this important/controversial

can someone explain what happened and what the big deal is to me (i use node at work but don't follow the contributor drama at all)

did a maintainer send someone a dick pic or something
>>
>>62142598
Basically some rules committee smacked down a user and that guy apologized to the user for the smackdown, which seems to have sent said rules committee into a tizzy.
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/node/comments/6whs2e/multiple_coc_violations_by_nodejs_board_member/
>>
>7703 forks of node.js
>Node.js forked over alleged CoC violations !!!
>7704 forks of node.js

ha ha ha

> aqrln commented 6 days ago
> > Has anyone left the project?
>As far as I know, only nebrius and pup decided to leave the Node.js project. (Not @-mentioning them because I'm not sure if they would want to be involved in this thread.)

ha ha ha
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>>62127851
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>>62114953
Aristotle would argue yes. The artist no know thing of what he is imitating
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>>62142598
Yeah, I was just directly quoting what the complaint said. From his and other responses, I guess it means something like >>62142618. Parts of this whole thing aren't even public, so it's hard to tell what actually happened.
>>
Why do all these people collectively seem like a never ending bad trip, some sort of dystopic pseudo-cyberpunk idiocracy?

Remember when I.T. used to be populated by socially awkward workers who dressed bad not because they actively did their bests to look as weird as humanly possible but just because they were utterly clueless?

I miss those comfy days. What terrible monster has this world become? How much worse will it get?
>>
>>62143144
Does she think that will ever pass as a bomb? Clockmed did it far better, and years ago.
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>>62114173
i never want to judge people too much because of their appearance, but all these cunts really change my view overtime
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>>62115701
>https://github.com/lewiscowper
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>>62120006
WHY did the author need clojure (which is butt ugly btw) for this shit
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>>62127727
>Ashley Williams
of course
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>>62143144
>used to be populated by socially awkward workers extroverted programmers (I guess IT in general) really strike a nerve with me.
It's even more awkward when they are giving a talk.
>>
So what is node.js exactly? Ive messed with it and I still don't know what the fuck it's used for. And why would I use it over traditional php/ js stuff?
>>
>>62143634
don't

webdev is a huge toxic meme
>>
>>62143640
I know. Ive done web dev a couple of years ago when I wanted some money on the side at college. It's stupid how many people suck at websites from working freelance. Now I use sweet c++ and continue to tell bosses that they suck at programming so they can stop thinking they know whats going on.
>>
>>62143634
It has a really shitty concurrency model and uses that shit language that is JS, I'd take Ruby, Python and even Java any day over that mess.
>>
>>62143668
My experience with it was stupid as fuck. I first had to download libraries which werent in the right place so I couldnt "reference" them in my node client. Then when I worked with the server side, I had to get that going. Just getting a test server up took longer than it should have. Apparently, some files were not in the right place, I had to do something to fix it...it was just downright infuriating of a software. I'm not touching it again.
>>
>>62143685
And to add this, apparently, you have to set variables for file locations, as long as those files are in the place of the class...except half the time, it wouldn't recognize their place. And then I had to fucking...I cant remember but it was something I had to do where I had to configure a file to recognize a directory, and it still didnt work. And there's absolutely no documentation on niche problems for node.
>>
>>62143329
kek
>>
>>62143634
It is a standalone program which can run javascript files. It is useful with having it connected with a javascript front end because everything is using the same logic, and objects are the same.
The biggest difference from php and node is:
PHP: A php script is ran every time you request a php file
Node: 1 Script runs on the server and each client connects to the one script
>>62143685
It sounds like you weren't using the package manager. For installing node, you can either use your built in package manager, use nvm, or download a prebuilt binary. None of those options should take more than 5 minutes.
>>62143706
It sounds like you are just bad

The stupid thing about people who use node is that they think that it should be used for everything. It's like trying to shove a circle peg through a square whole.
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colored hair is a sign for mental illness
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>>62143218
So entd hasn't heard of intersectionality. Babby's first social rhetoric.
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>>62114173
Women ruin everything
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>>62143913
I'm sure he is just trolling
>>
I love watching the left cannibalize itself.
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