>http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7- 8700k-cpu-benchmarks-

Jesus, this is pathetic. For a company with the resources Intel have, I expected a much stronger response to Ryzen. Not this fucking trash, tiny increase in performance from last gen.

Looks like what little performance benefit they have is from clock speed increases.

>>62107342
What is there to expect? Everyone already knew that it's just going to be a 7700k with two more cores.

>>62107358
>tiny performance increase from last gen
This had been ever iteration of Intel processors for a while now. I'm on 4th Gen i7 and will not have to upgrade for a very long time. Hell 2nd gen won't have to for a while.

>>62107342
>Ryzen 2 in 2018
>5GHz
>15% higher IPC from picking low hanging fruit
>50% lower power usage

Intel is
DEAD
E E
A A
D D

>>62107475
>also no drivers so you can't use it

>>62107530
>cpu
>drivers

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>>62107475
>>62107418

It has to be a joke right?

Surely they have come up with something better than this?

>>62107612
B-but imagine overclocking it... and not burning down your house...

>>62107342
for all of 8 seconds

>multithreaded performance only slightly better than Ryzen 1600X
KEK so glad i got a 1600x

FINE WINE

>>62107612
that's pretty much what you'd expect from just adding two more cores. a decent upgrade for most people who weren't stupid enough to buy gayby lake.

Time for some more napkin math bullshit.

(((4000*1.125)*6)*1.275)/25.4
1355
(((4200*1.125)*6)*1.275)/25.4
1423

At 4.2 GHz all core it'd hit those numbers. However that's only 100 MHz less than 7700K's all core. Possibly the 14nm++ lets them push it harder. But I'm not sure the results on temp and power draw.

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>>62107342

>no gaming benchmark

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I guess we shouldn't have really expected more....

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>>62107723

>>62107695
Some games will actually regress in performance.
It's inevitable, some games simply don't like that many threads and there's still the issue of increased access and core latency with 50% more cores, on top of that the chip now has 50% more cores but the same memory bandwidth the 7700k had, synthetics are fine but games are sensitive to latency and bandwidth changes.

>>62107342
>tfw the 1600 is still the better choice at it's price point

Hm.

>>62107358

complacency kills

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>>62107743
A lot of people already did. lul

The original link https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/28803237

Translated estimated pricing : 2699 Yuan. About $406. That's even higher than previous estimates of $380.

>>62107759
God damn that 1600 has killer value

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>>62107735

In another word, AMD performs extremely poorly in games.

Oh well, I should expect that.

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>>62107783

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>>62107790

Ryzen is dogshit compared to i7 in emulation.
AMD GPUs are dogshit compared to Nvidia GPUs, especially their drivers.

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>>62107732

Ahh.... AMD has facilities in (((Israel)))

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>>62107783
>b-b-but muh gayms mommy!

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>>62107819

B-b-b-b-but MUH VALUE

>>62107819
Now that CEmu is better optimized there's really not anything that doesn't run well on Ryzen in terms of emulation.

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>>62107342
How are those GPU drivers coming along Rajesh?

Favela monkey started shitposting at 5AM CEST time? Really makes you think.

>>62107552
There's microcode and other similar updates that in a way are drivers , but both sides have had those types of updates

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>>62107825

Then no game for you.

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>>62107853

huehuehue

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I wonder if Brian has a crying wojak shitposter folder on his work PC.

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>>62107834
>CEmu
How about good emulators?

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>>62107883

Literally Who?

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>>62107819
Yeah gotta love those NVidia drivers.
>>62107918
>pre-alpha emulator
lol. It runs anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwZTyhmFgJo
>>62107923
>Instant deflection into RTG
Nice try.

You gotta love it when 30% of the thread is furious attempts at damage control.

Also
>42 posts 15 IPs
Someone's pooper peeved.

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Why do intel get butthurt at their shitty processors? Why they get so mad, it just a processor.

>>62107954
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>62107342
Wow that article is really sucking Intel's dick while the numbers are no better.

>>62108145
Has wccftech ever not sucked both Nvidia and Intel's dick?

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>>62107342
>New Coffee Lake 8700K
>New
wait are they releasing ANOTHER line of cpu's? again?
are they really planning to gas kaby lake x after like two months what the fuck

>>62110489
you need a new motherboard too

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>>62107342
>tfw Xeon from 2014 is same speed as Threadripper

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>>62110646
as I said

>>62107342
But there is nothing wrong with 7700K. It's a fucking fast CPU with 6 cores. How is that bad, Mr. Shitposter?

>>62107612
It's a real solid choice for anyone who haven't bought a 7700K already. If they did, good, they have a solid CPU that will last 5 years (2500K all over the place again.)

I missed the 7th gen (had to spend money on else), so lucky me, +2 cores.

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>>62110626
Which is the best part: same socket and pin count, different pin configuration for maximum market griefing.

>>62107342
Title says faster than EIGHT core ryzen though

>>62107759
> tfw i9 topped sell lists in my country
I never expected people have that much money. And they skipped AMD and went for i9. lmao.

>>62110718
if you check the page, yes it is faster.

>>62107342
Wow, Intel is rebranding their CPU since fucking Maxwell, just wow.

>>62107783
>he plays games
>>>/v/

>>62107418
I would say 2nd gen is beggining to see its ends. But 4th gen is intel barrier, little to none improvement from there.

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The 8700k is the perfect upgrade for the smart users who are running older gen CPUs such as a Sandy Bridge variant at 1440p or higher and looking to upgrade to be future proof again in a similar fashion to the 2600k with even better modern upgrades like the M.2 NVME modules.

>>62110799
I would compare it to the Q6600

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> vir/g/ins discuss about super processors
> they still think that high-end processors aren't a meme
> i'm happy with my my shit i5 6500
> mfw

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>>62110745
>Maxwell
> Intel
Ouch, the shitposting, it hurts!
Btw that's Nvidia and indeed Maxwell was a rebrand. But then let's go to AMD GPUs. How many did they rebrand? Every fucking generation since the 6000 series? (And now it finally stopped with the Vega housefire.)

Good job.

>>62110856
7700K / 8700K is not exactly high-end. It's actually quite affordable, and basically the pinnacle of desktop computing at the moment.

High end would be Epyc/Threadripper/i9/Xeon Platinum.

>>62107342
>beats a 1700 in both single- and multithreaded
>this is somehow bad
It's not a particularly interesting article as it's just a small amounts of benchmarks and we have no idea about the overclocking (while 1700 pushes 3.8 all cores easily), but the results that are there are fine.

>>62107853
it's like 6 or 7am in monkeyland, so yeah

>>62110704
you could have 8 cores 16 threads with a 1800x for what this shit will cost you

>>62111323
I just checked and an 1800x costs 1.5x more than a 7700K. And no matter how many cores you put into one CPU if it's weak as fuck in single thread.

>>62111336
Single thread is a meme and it's not even a good one. Autists literally only like it because it means the cpu can feed the gpu more easily at very high framerates, but even this is rapidly changing. At least "wait and see" before committing so you don't get cucked. There's no way this thing is going to cost as much as a 7700k especially not at launch. And don't believe lies that "single threaded is better for gaming". It's temporarily better at feeding very high end graphics cards to their limit, only.

>>62110704
The 7700k is not going to last 5 years if Zen-2 is able to take full advantage of IBM/GloFo's 7nm process.

Double the transistor density, 5Ghz+ clock speeds, 40% reduction in power consumption, nevermind IPC improvements and bugfixes, and it'll be on the same AM4 socket everyone bought for Zen today, making upgrading trivial. I wouldn't even be surprised if they bumped the core counts up some.

Now it remains to be seen whether or not Zen-2 will actually achieve what's claimed, but if it does, someone buying a 7700k today is only going to have that performance edge - that they payed a pretty premium for - for about a year.

Are MSRP drops a thing in the CPU world? Like how likely would it be we see Ryzen go down a bit in price if Coffee Lake is good? I know AMD hasn't shied away from price drops on their GPUs before.

>>62111857
Intel doesn't really do this

>>62111862
I know that much, but then again Intel never had competition so it wouldn't have made any sense to do that.

>>62111654
it's 60% reduction in power consumption at the same clockspeeds and >40% higher performance at the same power compared to their 14nm process

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>>62110626
new socket twice a year keeps the goyim in fear

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Brian, we're running out of TIM!

>>62111869
Intel never lowers prices. Ever.
They didn't lower against Athlon 64 and they won't lower now. Chances are prices will go up, instead.
Gotta cover the costs of bribing OEMS, retailers, etc, again.

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>>62111909

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>>62111857
pretty good chances considering the prices are already dropping and coffee lake isn't even out

probably $250 1600x by christmas with deals/sales/promos

>>62107342
>get rekt by arm last year in mobile
>get rekt by ryzen this year in desktop
>get rekt by ibm next year in server

i guess we give the laptops..... for now

>>62107342
IT'S NOT FAIR DELET!
FUCKING AYYMD

>>62112008
They are literally about to get raped in laptops by Raven Ridge.

>>62107342
so wait
8700 has LESS single thread perf than 7700k
BUT
it has 49% more multithreaded perf than 7700k
with only 2 cores?
yeah knowing how well intel cores scales i call BS

>>62112045
They'll bribe people until there are people to bribe.

>>62110874
every card after keple is a fucking rebrand with updated microcode only
for amd every card since 2011 is literally a rebrand with updated microcode plus tahiti that introduced hws and now vega that brought hbcc better culling and ncu(ncu=updated hws which was an updated ace engine)

>AMDrones lol CEO is a woman!!!

You know Intel has truly been caught with its pants down when valid observarions (>>62107723) are only countered by namecalling (>>62107732).

>>62107358
This isn't a new gen. Notice it's all the same process since Skylake?
The real next gen, in terms of architecture and process, will be after Coffeelake

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>>62110856
>i5 6500
>mfw he fell for Skylake meme
>mfw still on 2500K

>>62107918
Wouldn't that work bettet because it loves MOAR COARS? I saw Persona running well on a 6c12t Intel one, saturating all cores.

>>62112338
RPCS3 needs not only cores but also single threaded performance. That's why Ryzen is dogshit for it right now. That might change int he future when the emulator is more advanced.

>>62110646
>>62110656
>CPU-trash
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/new-cpu-z-upgrade-lowers-ryzen-performance.html
It's 25-30% faster overall in non-retarded benchmarks. Even in single core.
>>62110887
>It's actually quite affordable
At $380-$400? lol.

>>62112067
It's probably only 40% more multicore.

After getting demolished by the Vega release it seems that the AMDrones are in full blast in agitprop against Intel again, despite the Coffee Lake CPU looking like an extremely good chip.

Can't wait for the price/performance meme being shoveled into /g/ once again.

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>>62107342
>>New Coffee Lake 8700K
>single threaded performance as high as a 7700K
>multithreaded performance higher than a 1600x

Sounds like the perfect chip

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>>62107342
This triggers the poo

>>62107342
why should I waste my time with Intel?
you need new mobo for each new gen and for what?

fuck it i'm going to buy ryzen at least I will use same motherboard in case of upgrade

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Lol AMD can pack up and leave

>>62113114
threadripper firestrike physics score: 24k

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-review,27.html

the CPU i linked: 25k

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/21793177?

But I guess you AMD shills don't believe this either.

>>62113280
>melting overclock vs stock
HAHAHAHAHAHA. DOA

>>62113219
>Sounds like the perfect chip
concider this
>higher TDP
>atleast 100$ more
>if you wanna overclock enjoy buying a 150$ board
>not out yet

>>62113584
Literally none of the points you mentioned are issues to me

>>62113235
>wccfturd garbage
Yep, so triggered right now.
>>62113513
>muh gayme benchmark
Literally who cares?

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>>62113280
AMpoos BTFO once again

>>62113617
Physics score is purely a CPU test, but whatever.

>>62113280
It's going to cost $400. It's not even in the same price bracket as those other CPUs anymore.
>>62107775

Also see >>62107694

>>62111871
Realistically you're not going to see Zen go over 5ghz without a radical redesign. It was designed targeting the available processes. So ideally we'll see a 20% improvement in clock speed and a decent power reduction, though probably not quite 30% because of disproportionate power scaling. Still, IPC improvements can make a big difference, iirc papermaster talked about they could get low hanging fruit on Zen before

>>62113640
You know the CPU you compared it against has two more cores, cost $2700 when new, and still barely wins, right?

>>62113648
When will you people learn that some people don't care about 50 bucks more or less, some of us just want the fastest best products. Obviously you pay a price premium for that

>>62113672
When you stop running around posting dumb shit like
>Lol AMD can pack up and leave
and
>AMpoos BTFO once again

When it's not nearly as cut and dry as your shilling is trying to make it look.

>>62113668
Doesn't change the fact that it's from 2014.

>>62113672
>50 bucks
Don't forget the expensive new Z370 mobo and watercooling/delid kit, goy.

>>62107342
but does it use less power than ryzen? electricity is not almost free everywhere so that matters to some people.

>>62113687
It will be pretty clear cut for most people shopping in that price bracket

>>62113699
is that supposed to be a good point?
all it does is show that intel's unable to bring anything new to the table unlike AMD

>>62113711
AMD didn't bring anything new either, they just brought something cheap

>>62113711
It means that AMD can barely compete with 3 (5) years old intel architecture. Altought you are right on the part that intel cant come up with anything new either.

>>62113721
You fuckshits have such a hard-on for hating AMD that even when they bring the most powerful, most affordable consumer CPU to market while Intel is still busy trying to rip everyone off, you still hate on them for it.

>>62113721
AMD brought more cores, a higher IPC, and better power efficiency.
They just couldn't get those clock speeds up.

Why am I not surprised?

>>62113725
>barely compete
look, for the price of that xeon you'll be able to get a 32 core EPYC
how is that 'barely competing'?

>>62113704
No, it won't, because the 1700 isn't even AMD's highest end 8 core, and on top of that it's still all just Chinese rumors until anything is actually confirmed.

>>62113749
The 1700 can OC to exactly the same speeds as the 1800x you dumb cunt

>>62107342
>>62113280
Don't know what OP is ranting about those results look very impressive.

>>62113744
*for the new price

I got this off of eBay for $700

EPYC is nice tho. I plan to upgrade to that in 2019 or so.

>>62107358
That's not how it works anon. You don't make a new architecture over night. They probably wouldn't have a proper answer to Ryzen until 2 years from now.

>>62110720
it goes by value , aka 1 2k$ i9 = 10 200$ Ryzen 5
so one fag buying 3 i9's can top the charts for a week

>>62107342
Don't expect anything until they stop using "core" in their naming scheme.

Guys, how long until 4k HDR screens are mainstream?

>>62107475
>>5GHz
Don't count on it

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i dont really have any reason to upgrade from 2500k before the motherboard dies.

>>62113813
>a proper answer to Ryzen
Upping the core count on their i3, i5 and i7 cpu's was the only answer they needed.

>>62113755
no it fucking can't

>>62113891
And destroying their margins?

>>62114064
Sure they will have to settle for smaller margins, but they will still make good money from the cpu's

>>62112384
Suck my ass dude, I have an 1800x and it handles demons souls on rpcs3 as well as any system can at the moment.

>>62114084
if retards keep agreeing to getting gouged en masse, then yes of course they will

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>>62107835
hows the red herring coming along juan

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>>62114092
>y-you are just a p-pajeet

>>62111336

check what the mainboard costs for each platform

>>62113611
Because you have infinite money, right?
Well then, why even care about Ryzen and Coffee Lake, just order a custom CPU for yourself with 128 cores!

>>62113672
>50 bucks
100, i.e. 33% more.

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>>62113611
>Literally none of the points you mentioned are issues to me
insurance fraud?

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>>62107342
REMEMBER 1000 WATTS

>>62114966
apply HV Generator output to the Motherboard for even more heat = Profit
Thats how you make money with a cpu

>>62114966
but does it produce enough heat to replace electric heating systems?

>>62107918
Someone only got 8GB of ram with their nvidia gpu.

>>62107342
This page is bullshit
It shows the 1700 getting a 1420 in cone bench when it actually gets around 1700 (coincidence right)

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I went with the 6850k for $150 instead of waiting.

>>62113611
since its no issue you should have gotten the 1600

oh wait you cant

>>62113280
so after kaby lake being a whole 1% faster than sandy
now intel wins by 1% over amd!
how amd is going to even compete? zen2 is kill zen 3 is scrapped zen 4 will literally bankrupt amd

>>62113513
shit i guess gamers that will buy TR4 to play games are on suicide watch
all 3 of them

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>>62116147
That's overclocked with high speed memory scores. Bone stock with 2133mhz memory it scores between 1400-1500.

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>>62107342
COFFIN LAKE
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>>62116286
I could have, but I didn't because I didn't want an inferior product with 2005 clockspeeds


Whats with this constant AMD cocksucking on this board holy crap.

Some people don't mind spending extra to get the best, deal with it already

>>62116524
>Whats with this constant AMD cocksucking on this board holy crap
Blame Intel for being overpriced housefire trash.

>>62114871
>Because you have infinite money, right?
Spoiler alert, you don't need an infinite amount of money to get an Intel cpu

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>>62116537
>overpriced
You're right, get a Ryzen cpu goys, don't buy Intel it's overrated

>>62116524
>spacing
lol this isn't your blog you wanker

So 8700k has single core performance of 7700k and beats 1700 in multicore? How is this a bad deal?

>>62116573
Stay triggered you dumb cunt

>>62116524
since when paying more equals better perf?

is 7700k better than 1600?
is 6900k better than 1800?
is 7900x the prototype housefire is better than 1950x?
is any xeon better than epyc?

spending money on intel means only one thing
you really have no idea about tech

>>62116591
no substitute for the IMAX experience

>>62116591
ok newfag

>>62116583
Any person in their right mind is impressed by these results

The average AMD fanboy can't handle this fact, and resorts to autistic screeching and meme spamming as you can see in this thread

>>62116570
oyyy macaco its nice using a day 1 bench to shills
but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfNMn7RWgLw&t=1084s
what happens when you use benches from NOW?

>>62116603
>is 7700k better than 1600?
For gaming, absolutely

>>62116583
knowing how intel scales and knowning that the numbers for 1700 is wrong id say this leak is so "leak":

>>62116488
My 1700 isn't overclocked at all and it scored around 1650 with 2993 memory

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>>62116631
Those aren't day 1 benches you disengenous cunt

>>62116639
>>is 7700k better than 1600?
>>62116631
explain those results

>>62116627
>stop shitting on overpriced housefires

>>62116660
>explain those results
That's a video of a 7800x not a 7700k

How stupid are you?

>>62115780
1000 watts is about the same as a space heater so yes

>>62116631
DELID DIS, GOY, BUY INTEL

>>62116658
>yes
>literal whos

>>62116720
>that benchmark doesn't count reeeeeeeeeeee!

>>62116688
you obviously miss the point by light years

>>62116738
The point is you're retarded

I stated that a 7700k is better for gaming than a 1600, and you point me to a video of a 7800k versus a 1600

tl;dr, you're thick as fuck

>>62116648
Yeah but

>Multi-core doesn't matter!
>Price/performance doesn't matter!
>Power usage doesn't matter!
>Temperatures don't matter!
>Soldered dies don't matter!
>Stutters don't matter!
>Streaming doesn't matter!
>Data centers don't matter!
>OEMs don't matter!
>Hyperscalers don't matter!
>Upgradeability doesn't matter!
>*NEW* Locked platform features don't matter!
>*NEW* Synthetic loads don't matter!
>*NEW* Burnt pins don't matter!

>>62116755
Well memed

>>62116726
>>that benchmark doesn't count reeeeeeeeeeee!
>7700k needs to be on edge under water to beat ryzen

ITS A WIN
ITS A WIN
ITS A WIN

>>62116748
7800x is 8700 which is the replacement of 7700k
get it?

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>>62116658
I can do that too

>>62116755
Are reviewers really just shilling this thing because it's intel?
They allow the 8700k to hit its boost but they force the 1700 to stay at 3.6 with low memory speeds?

>>62116769
it's not you dingus
8700k will still have the bingbus instead of the 7800x' mesh, which makes a huge difference in a lot of cases

>>62116769
>7800x is 8700 which is the replacement of 7700k
No, how fucking stupid are you.

The 7800k has an entirely different cache structure and mesh architecture.

The 8700k is a 'classical' intel cpu in this recarded, and the true succesor to the 7700k.

The fact that you are naming the 7800k as the succesor to the 7700k shows how little you know about this subject

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>>62110489
shut up this is fine i have money to spend on intel to make sure they demolish amd i would buy their processor just to keep it in the box, one sold intel cpu = dying amd i am doing my part

>>62116748
low iq nigger monkey reading comprehension

>>62116755
>>62116769
jesus christ are you guys for real

>>62116779
shhhhhh

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>>62116815
Are you?

>>62116798
It's the successor of 6800k, and 6800k is shit.

>>62116793
>>62116798
holy fuck i could go all jim keller on your asses for not realising how stupid pr raped you both (or one) sound
just like the idiot yesterday that said EMIB is better over IF because its intel tech

>>62107918
I can run Demon's Souls on i7 960@4Ghz full speed most of the time. Ryzen is fine for emulation

>>62116917
I'm not sucking Intel cock, you absolute sperg. I'm saying a CPU having the bingbus vs it having the mesh makes a difference in how it performs in different circumstances. It's a simple statement of fact.

>>62113280
looks good to me better single thread then 7700k better multi thread then a 1700(8 core)

>>62116819
I feel dirty for owning a 6700k for two years

>>62117133
could be worse

>>62117090
It's 10 points off from the 1700 which is of course within the margin of error but then again they are using bare bones stock memory and not letting it reach any higher boost than 3.7 compared to a 4.2-4.5ghz intel chip in cinebench

>>62113280
>4.30ghz vs 3.00ghz
>tfw oc r7 1700 to 3.9ghz and get 1722 score in cinebench

your mother sucks dwarf cock

>>62117218
it does seem kinda fishy considering the single core isn't much faster and the multicore is somehow better than 8 core 16 threads weve seen leaks like this before

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>>62117244
IT'S NOT FAIR INTELBROS

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>>62107342
I understand the point of keeping everything stock clock but the 8700k is boosting .5ghz and they are comparing it to a 1700 which isn't the price point, the 1700x is
which boosts to 3.8 and can easily get 3.9

So factoring this in, both getting an equal boost clock of .5ghz the 1700x scores around 1700-1750 and we haven't even factored in memory speeds yet. Not to mention this is yet another "leak" using c15 which is known to massively favor intel chips due to "genuine intel" shit
I'm just being purely objective here and trying to put them on an even playing field with their boost clocks and price point. Along with of course the single threaded is higher because it's boosting to 4.5-4.7 and might even be higher in it's six core boost than what we are being told.

So this 8700k is what most people were waiting for.
7700k IPC and overclocking
6 cores to avoid being a corelet.

>But but it I'll be $350+
So most people don't care about an extra $59-75 price tag.

>But but Mesh buss house fire
This will still use their ringbuss. It scales just fine at 6 cores. Anymore and shit goes bad.

>But but there Mobo will be $200!
Again, people don't give a fuck about an extra $50.

This 8700k could be trash, only benchmarks will tell.

>>62117498
So if you had the cooling, you could get a 8700k up to at least 4.7ghz on 6 cores.

>>62113114
>New AMD processor dramatically outscores competition in cpuz
>Oh wow, there must be something wrong with our benchmark software, let's "adjust" it to bring AMD's score "back in line with reality"
>AMD processor now behind or barely ahead of similar Intel CPU's despite trashing them in reality

what a shit program and a shit company

I noticed also that all the big normie benchmarking places like userbenchmarks pull similar bullshit, and can't help but be reminded of Intel's past anti-competitive and anti-customer practices >>62107723

>>62118487
Possibly I assume, it atleast says that's the max boost but who knows if the chips can actually reach that. Along with that, even though intel has had a good track recored of hitting high clockspeeds the fact that this starts at 3.6 leads me to believe that if it's boosting up to 4.7 that has to basically be the limit. I just hope reviewers keep them on decent playing fields

I have zero understanding of microprocessor technology so don't BTFO. Could it be we're hitting the limit of what is physically possible with monolithic architectures on silicon?

>>62118637
This is the main reason nobody uses CPUezekial

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>>62118050
Let's be honest, this is what Intel should have released 3 years ago.

>>62118663
No, it's just that Intel hasn't done much research because they seemingly assumed AMD will continue selling Bulldozer forever.
And the monolithic thing has nothing to do with it. It's more economical to "glue" dies together because you get better yields, but the actual die manufacturing process stays the same whether it's one big die or several smaller.

Why do some people here still mistakenly believe the Coffee Lake 6 core will be the same ringmesh as Skylake-X? It's weird how fast incorrect information spreads on /g/. Coffee lake is ringbus, just like the Broadwell-E 6 core, so it has none of the disadvantages in gaming as the 7800K. The real issue for Intel is that the 8700K will likely destroy the 7800K in gaming making the 7800K pointless. It's just annoying how people deliberately spread fake information here.

>>62118050

Remember that Jewtel won't include a cooler either.

So at least another $150-200 for a good motherboard and $70-150 for a good cooler.

>>62116985
>emulating demon's souls

>>62118830
People are mainly just pointing out bingbus which is the cause of the majority of issues with the architecture
Stuttering is primarily due to the massive bingbus

>>62118863
Where do you live, Australia? You could cool Skylake on a $30 Hyper 212 Memo. Granted Coffee Lake will probably run hotter so maybe a $50 one would be better. Also Intel's Z boards are competitively priced with AMD's X370 boards, my Ryzen board was more expensive than my old Intel board with less features. Yeah, blame AMD's partners for jacking up the price, but I'm disappointed in my Ryzen mobo despite paying $160, while my $130 Intel one was great.

>>62118863
I have a feeling that this is due to
1. cutting cost
and, but longer
2. higher heat output would require a new fan to deal with the heat dissipation which would cost some dollars to engineer and then add to the CPU which would then increase the price making it even less attractive

>>62118830
7800 already seems useless. I really don't see why anyone would buy that thing. If it's for gaming Z270 (and Z370, soon) makes much more sense, there's no purpose in dumping money in expensive X299 since you won't really get anything beyond 7700K performance. If it's for multithreaded applications - a Ryzen 8C is a better deal and still quite decent in games too. Skylel-X is hot, expensive, mayo-jizz'd, the PCIe castration is fully retarded and even regresses in comparison to its predecessors in certain benchmarks.

>>62118982
What old intel board did you have?
My crosshair vi has nearly an uncountable number of extra features compared to my 370 dollar asus z170 deluxe and the crosshair comes at around 240

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>>62114966
WTF HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO POWER THAT AND THIS AT THE SAME TIME
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>62110874
>>62112082
No it fucking isn't you literal autists. Maxwell BTFO AyyMD's 290 and 290x which were at the very least on par with the more expensive 780(ti). It was a significant improvement over Kepler. Pascal is the rebrand one, it's literally just Maxwell on speed and I don't blame them, it was/is a superb architecture, they had their HD 4870 moment and you can bet your sheckles they're gonna sit on it for more than half a decade like AMD did back then. Expect the gaymen GPU market to massively stagnate like the CPU market has for the past 5 years.

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>>62107342
>65 watts
I dunno man I got a bad feeling about this
Getting deja vu

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>>62112239
>mfw missed out on Sandy Bridge
>mfw didn't go with Haswell because muh futureproof
>mfw got a b150 with i5 6500
>mfw 2 generations later (((they're))) using the same socket but I'm still not allowed to upgrade unless I give them more sheckles

>>62119031
Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI, it was fine for a budget mobo, overclocking was decent, only complaint was no LLC. My new Ryzen mobo is the Gigabyte Gaming K5, it's honestly the worst motherboard I've ever purchased and has turned me off of Gigabyte products. Despite being $160 it has terrible VRM cooling, no LLC, no manual voltage control (only offsets). Because there'ss no proper voltage control, it's all automatic, voltage spikes all the time making it difficult to figure out what to use. RAM compatibility was horrible as well despite being on the latest BIOS. The VRM's were much worse than any Intel board, they're practically x299 tier.

>>62118643
4.7GHz cannot be "the limit" unless you get an utter shit CPU in the silicon lottery. There is always some variability, if the absolute worst dies are still good enough to boost to 4.7, there's basically no way the mediocre (or the best) ones won't get higher than that, when sufficiently cooled of course.

>>62119154
I'm just assuming because it is already boosting by and extra full 1.1 GHZ you might really not be able to get much more
there is a reason the base clock is 3.6
>>62119152
Shit that sounds pretty bad, I wouldn't shark you for your purchase it just sucks buying a new motherboard and having less features cause the company jewed out on it. Hope it hasn't been too inhibiting

>>62119154
boost clock is 4.2, the absolute max hex core boost clock is 4.7 meaning the boost clock is also based on the silicon lottery

>>62119035
SOUP MONKEY
AN DELICIOUS

>>62119073
There is a chance that navi going to be successful with mcm. The main problem of vega is that despite it being fuckhuge chip it's still not powerful enough at power-efficient clocks, the same problem that ryzen has. Imagine gpu with 4 half-sized(=cheap) vega-ish chips at lower clocks wth optimal power draw with every chip being roughly 35% of vega 64 at something like 250 bucks. But i really don't think navi will be that much of success, it's goung to be small-time failure like vega.

>>62119225
Sopa de macaco uma delicia
Basically doesn't mean delicious, it means roughly "Monkey soup, a delight" or more precisely "a delicacy"

t. took spic speak in highschool a few years ago

>>62119189
Intel CPUs basically never run at their base clock, it's an irrelevant number for practical purposes in terms of performance. It will never run at 3.6GHz under load unless it is forced to thermal throttle or is power limited.
>>62119219
That's wrong, the 6C boost is 4.3GHz, 4.7 is not 6C (at stock), it's going to be 1C or 2C at most. Mobos will probably once again come with "all core" boost though, which will run all cores at 4.7 and disregard the TDP.

>>62119282
>disregard the TDP
oh no

AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>62119320
This is pretty much a standard feature nowadays, I remember even the mobo I had with an i5 750 used the single-core boost multiplier for all cores.

>>62119354
I am aware it's a standard feature I'm just getting 'nam flashbacks from skylake-x

>>62107723
2. actually isn't resolved. You can still get performance boost on AMD just by spoofing as GenuineIntel.

>>62119514
Good luck explaining that to a tech-illiterate judge against Intel's squadron of lawyers

>>62119743
They put a warning on their website so now it is (((legal)))

>>62107342
>4.3 GHz all core

It's gonna be a housefire, folks.

>>62119095
>200 watts
more like 1000 watts

>>62120828
A little outdated, want me to fix it? it's been a few months since I've made it

>>62118863
Again, we aren't poor.
Only AMD fans care about their free cooler that preforms the same as a $20 hyper 212.
If you want to overclock a 1700 to 4.0ghz, you need a good cooler.
That price argument is completely invalid

>>62107723
Do you know how many programs are compiled on Intel's compiler? It's not particularly popular.

>>62111438
How long have you been saying 'wait and see' for? 10 years? Single thread performance requirements are not going away any time soon.

>>62119279
Delicia can also mean or be used as delicious though, a more adecuate word for delight would be deleite.
t. actual spic

>>62120841
sure

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>>62122909