What went wrong? Their market share was like 99%, everybody

>>62100290
Streaming killed it. Shoutcast was ass

AOL bought them and never did anything with it.

A bloated upgrade happened
IIRC, also lacked support for some codecs

>>62100290
the jews did this

File: Dial-A-Song_Sticker.png (45KB, 250x248px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 250x248px

>>62100314
They should have extended it with voice modem features.

>>62100314
>never did anything with it.

you mean they killed it by adding a bunch of bullshit that was unnecessary and bloated like a library manager and skins, near the end it was just a ricing widget more than a media player

>>62100290
aol recently sold it to radionomy and there's rumors of a new release

>>62100290
>>62100314

Winamp 5.666 is perfection. No need to change anything.

File: 83203.jpg (121KB, 1200x900px) Image search: [Google]

121KB, 1200x900px

>>62100290
They tried to make it into a fucking video player and added a fucking web browser and all other manner of shit.

Either way, iTunes was better if you were a rich fag.

File: xmplay.gif (52KB, 557x403px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 557x403px

>>62100658
iTunes was only good for podcasts.

>>62100763
iTunes was great for tagging music, organizing a large library, and for it's complete integration into itunes online music store.

>>62100290
>meanwhile today, there are people browsing this board that has never even used it and most normies have never even heard of it
exacly
users changed plus no one like to use old / not keep with the times / be left behind

>>62100785
>iTunes was great for tagging music, organizing a large library
It was good enough, I guess but specialized programs were considerably better, especially on Windows.

>>62100785
https://web.archive.org/web/20170111060011/blog.vellumatlanta.com/2016/05/04/apple-stole-my-music-no-seriously/
>what itunes was really great at

>>62100290
while op talk about winamp, nobody talk about realplayer

File: realbuffering.jpg (36KB, 600x450px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 600x450px

>>62100966
lol. did you work for realnetworks?

>>62100966
Thanks for reminding me about this piece of shit

I stopped upgrading when it became a memory hog and cpu killer.
I stopped using it when I went linux-only for 10 years or so.
When I came back to windows, I went with foobar2000 for a while because winamp 2 was too outdated and unlike winamp 3+, foobar wasn't a resource-hungry piece of shit full of advertising.
Now I hardly use mp3 players on the computer, I just have my tablet running all the time.

Youtube+Spotify happened.

I used Winamp in every install and format in my PC for the last 15 years or so, same look and shit even after they implemented bento skin and library option, just now i changed for a more modern amarok fork and its beautiful never looking back to winamp again!

>>62100290
No monetization strategy.

>>62100966
I remeber the time before flash when quicktime on the browser was a thing.

>>62100785
The first thing I even learned about iTunes is that it takes every audio file you have and duplicates them somewhere else on the computer
I had all my shit organized perfectly as a normal file system, I was happy

File: 1475557796497.png (227KB, 704x783px) Image search: [Google]

227KB, 704x783px

>>62100785
>>62105154
>iTunes

Anyone have the 3 classic old winamp skins that were from three expired zippy links?

File: Capture.png (32KB, 382x296px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 382x296px

>>62100763
Patrician XMPlay

>>62100290
I still use it. I never used another player in my life.

>>62100334
>>>/pol/

>>62100966
I remember a pokemon movie that would probably fit on a floppy or a few. Quality? But that's what I could get on a dialup!

File: Untitled.png (625KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

625KB, 1920x1080px

I still use it to this day, I like the mascots that you can have on it

I still use Audacious. Before that, I used to use XMMS. Those are inspired by the classic Winamp.

>>62105154
...which can be enabled or disabled in preferences.

>>62105555
I've never seen a Winamp clone that duplicated the best of Winamp's functionality. Two of Winamp's best features were how fast it added files to your playlist, and its single-key player control shortcuts (zxcvb, and j).

Personally I run Quod Libet, which is arguably inspired by classic iTunes.

>>62105572
/g/ is full of people too retarded to hop into a settings/preferences panel

File: 487531_211189569019298_1162982753_n.jpg (29KB, 600x800px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 600x800px

>>62105479
This is hideous

>people defending itunes itt
How is this place any different from reddit at this point

>>62105667
not tolerating differing opinions is peak reddit

>>62105696
Damn you're right. I guess the real reddit was me all along.

>>62105659
I am doing multiple things, when I am done I tidy it up

How in the fuck did a laggy piece of shit like iTunes even get popular? There's no way to stop it from auto launching if you happen to connect an iPhone. It even runs like total ass on Mac OS.

>>62105597
>Two of Winamp's best features were how fast it added files to your playlist, and its single-key player control shortcuts (zxcvb, and j).

Foobar2000 could do both of those for over a decade.

>>62100290

I miss the radio stations it had around 2005.

>>62100290
Foobar became the music player of choice for people who don't want to use itunes.

File: llamasass.jpg (149KB, 760x859px) Image search: [Google]

149KB, 760x859px

Still using it with the same skin I had in like 2003

AIMP is just better in every way

>>62100290
>normies
ur a fuckin fagget m8

>>62105873
Not up to par with Winamp. Winamp's add-to-playlist speed is second-to-none, and foobar2000's default keyboard shortcuts are seriously pathetic. Even if you tried to configure winamp equivalents, I bet there are issues with single-key ASCII shortcuts. Applications not designed with them in mind often have QC issues around them.

https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,86827.0.html

modifier    key    action/menu-command    
Ctrl    F    Edit/Search    
Ctrl    N    File/New Playlist    
Ctrl    O    File/Open...    
Ctrl    P    File/Preferences    
Ctrl    S    File/Save Playlist...    
Ctrl    U    File/Add Location...    
Ctrl    W    File/Remove Playlist    
Alt    Enter    [Context]/Properties    
Alt    A    View/Always on Top

>>62106058
Foobar is much better at managing playlists.

>>62106058
>Winamp's add-to-playlist speed is second-to-none,

Er, how is Foobars any worse? I just click on a file and its on the playlist. Same behaviour as I used to have in Winamp.

And for the key configs, you can set up any command you want, and even set them up as global commands.

>>62106091
>some random off-topic bullshit
Okay?

>>62106124
>a file

>a file


>a file

Yeah for that matter even clicking a file in google play music is just as fast.

You're an idiot. You think there's any noticeable delay in adding a single fucking file to any of the music players we're discussing?

>>62106129
>"What went wrong with Winamp?" thread
>Foobar objectively did some things better, grew in popularity and pushed Winamp out
Random off-topic bullshit, sure.

>>62106166
>You're an idiot. You think there's any noticeable delay in adding a single fucking file to any of the music players we're discussing?

You never specified that you were doing anything more than that. I add folders, not files though.

>>62106204
You responded to my post with a statement completely unrelated to my post, so yes, off-topic bullshit.

>>62106209
>you never specified
>i have no common sense

who remembers deliplayer?

>>62106249
>i have no common sense

Well I add music by
- downloading or ripping the full album
- right click -> enqueuer in foobar2000

and it loads instantly in foobar all the time, unless the folder has a half gig ZIP file first that it needs to pre-parse. I don't know what exactly you mean by common sense here, would you care to elaborate how people normally add music to a music player?

>foobar
literally who?

File: post-7-1092005082[1].jpg (57KB, 365x237px) Image search: [Google]

57KB, 365x237px

Step aside.

>>62105943
This.

>>62100290
Still use XMMS 1.2.10

Was using 2.91 up until 2006.

I'd still be using it if it weren't for foobar existing.

>>62106727
Grotesque.

>>62100290
Foobar has great global shortcuts and is much lighter.

>>62108227
>much lighter
Sure, compared to today's Winamp. Not compared to pre-AOL Winamp.

>global shortcuts
What are you talking about? Like how it responds to multimedia keyboards? Or are you saying you add custom keys to your configuration?

>>62100763
>>62105418
Still running this due to the insane amount of audio format plugins I have for it that aren't available on foobar yet.
The closest player that has as much format support is a fucking android application.

File: mpxplay.jpg (463KB, 1600x1200px) Image search: [Google]

463KB, 1600x1200px

Who remembers this?

>>62100290
I use foobar2000 now.

>>62108310
>The closest player that has as much format support is a fucking android application.
Let me guess. Newtron?

>>62108310
>the insane amount of audio format plugins I have for it that aren't available on foobar yet.

Yeah, that's probably bullshit.

>>62108776
*Neutron, I meant.

I still use winamp to this day.
Never found any reason to replace it, it just works.

I switched to foobar years ago because it has tabbed playlists.

>>62108310
>the insane amount of audio format plugins I have for it that aren't available on foobar yet.

Such as?

>tfw just found out songbird has been defunct for years now

why? it was a nice audio player

>>62100290
winamp were good ~ 10 years ago.
It had reasonable hotkeys and didn't take up too much resources in terms of screen space, RAM and CPU.
It went downhill because it is proprietary.
It couldn't keep a way to make money that didn't screwed over the users, so the users abandoned it.
Other music players could do more things, so the core essentials stopped to matter.
Today, most music players are on phones.
There is only one music player on a phone that even closely resembles this, so I can only assume that no mobile programmer has ever used a music player and that touch is just too difficult for most programmers.
It is good (for programmers) that phones are basically useless and something like winamp is the best they can do. Even though it will take them 50 years to add the functionality that makes it good.

>>62105418
Is Snacks still making his podcasts? Last time I saw then was on r9k years ago
>>62108788
>>62108880
Not him but there's some tracker and video game music that fb2k won't play, even with plugins
I don't listen to any of that but there's some anons that do
Though I don't believe there's an Android application that works for stuff that fb2k can't
>>62105871
Apple kept iTunes as a requirement for any iPod/iPhone, third party software would get cucked by Apple shortly after release

File: winamp.png (10KB, 430x89px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 430x89px

Using it right now, winamp GOAT

I keep an win7 vm in my FreeBSD install just so I can use...

iTunes.

Don't even have an Apple device. iTunes is just the best player Imo.

winamp is for hipster faggots that are stuck in 1997-2001 for some reason

>>62109317
its simple to use.

>>62109220
>Not him but there's some tracker and video game music that fb2k won't play, even with plugins
I want examples.

>>62109348
Check the /g/ archives

>>62109363
No. Its not on me to find out if someone else's claims are true.

>>62109331
If /g/ really cared about cimplicity they'd all be using macs and iphones.

>>62100966
>take two days to download a feature length movie in rm format
>whopping 20 megabytes

>>62109369
Neither on me, if you care check it yourself

>>62109397
I don't care, but >>62108310 sure does.

File: 1479161894110.jpg (49KB, 700x700px) Image search: [Google]

49KB, 700x700px

>>62105177
Hate on me all you want, but I was using iTunes back then because of its simplicity and I perceived it having better audio playback. I quit iTunes once it started becoming bloated with its stupid Apple Store crap.

I couldn't stand WinAmp, felt like a shoddy piece of software and all of their skins were absolute trash. I used foobar briefly though.

Before iTunes, I think I used Windows Media Player to store all my music and thought their music visualizations were amazing. I still remember staying up late at night with an online friend continually refreshing the Microsoft page for the new release of Windows Media Player 9 to come out or something. I was such a normie even before it was a thing.

>>62109451
>I still remember staying up late at night with an online friend continually refreshing the Microsoft page for the new release of Windows Media Player 9 to come out or something
Why? Did it live up to your expectations?

i still use winamp with the classic skin since 1997

>>62100290
pretty sure some big company bought it and added all the kinds of bloat that we were glad it didn't have
If it wasn't for foobar, i'd probably still be using Winamp 3 lmao. Been toying around a bit with Clementine after learning of it here a few weeks ago, but it's not really my thing.

File: 1502901517008.jpg (126KB, 540x792px) Image search: [Google]

126KB, 540x792px

>>62109916
Because we were young and stupid, this was like 2003/2004 and it was just brand new software and we wanted to be the first to get it. My online friend was a Microsoftie as well.

I think around midnight, the webpage briefly became inaccessible, then the download link appeared and both of us rushed to install it.

Yeah, back then I thought it was the coolest thing ever and was so happy to have the newest software, plus it was free as well. Being a poor kid living with his parents, what do you expect.

>>62100290
Wow, XMMS had 99% market share?

I just use MPC-HC. Anything that properly decodes almost any format, and properly sends it to the audio subsystem buffer (eventually), generally works for me. Bypassing the bulk of the OS can be nice though.

Lack of gapless playback is bad though. I'll possibly attempt to add it to MPC-HC eventually.

File: ..jpg (2KB, 125x112px) Image search: [Google]

2KB, 125x112px

>>62109969
>plus it was free as well. Being a poor kid living with his parents, what do you expect.

>>62100491
fuck off satan

>>62100785
>This
iTunes was basically WMP but with a not as hideous interface

It also had a greater sense of ease of access. It was quick to move left to the screen, pick an artist and see all their music sorted by albums

Windows, it was exit the player, go into artists, scroll for a week, find them, pick an album, then play, move onto next album by clicking back, picking the next one, pick a song...

It merely came down to the interface. iTunes did so much more by keeping things so simple. When you listen to music, most people want to listen to one artists discography or at least have access to it all at once, to have a long playlist for background sound or to have quick access to their favorite songs from a artist.

Apple won purely from interface, because ultimately that's the one thing that will be the deciding factor, how easily can I access things? Being an engineering student you see this with AutoCAD and solid works. People hands down, 999/1000 times will pick Solid works even though it's a harder program to learn, because it's also a easier to use program. While I'm messing around with interfaces and line types, in solid works I simply click and scroll to get the view I want. And that's why people use Solidworks for their 2D CAD work even though it's primarily a 3D program.

File: 13585837528.jpg (27KB, 399x385px) Image search: [Google]

27KB, 399x385px

>>62100290
>His proprietary media player goes to shit
>All he can do is come and moan about it on online forums instead of just using a fork
When will you ever learn?

Use AIMP

>>62108776
Nope
>>62109348
Look at the Delix plugin for xmplay, lots formats that plugin provides is not available in foobar. Also random shit like .kdm and mod packers like .wgm.

File: Sonique.jpg (162KB, 740x555px) Image search: [Google]

162KB, 740x555px

>>62100290
You now remember Sonique.

>tfw Lycos bought it and took it to the grave with him

>>62110972
the spokesperson for lycos was Anna Kournikova.

File: 1439750722908.jpg (46KB, 590x604px) Image search: [Google]

46KB, 590x604px

Listening to music with Winamp right now.

Is there a better non-bloated alternative nowadays?

>tfw never seen another player with the "jump to" function

>>62111088
Foobar2000 is the best desu. Has a jump to function too.

File: frodo.jpg (43KB, 600x599px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 600x599px

>people unironically sucking off itunes

yes oh great apple cock, coat me with your proprietary formats and codecs jizz, I love you Steve Jobs, please knit me a turtle neck with two neck holes.

You're all either too young or trolling.

>>62105622
Literally the state of apple right now
Kekking so hard

>well yeah our stuff IS shit, but you can disable the shittiness manually! But youre probably too dumb to do that anyway!

>>62111307
Stop projecting.

File: Captura de pantalla 2017-08-27 a las 11.55.11.png (1MB, 2784x1642px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2784x1642px

>winamp
kek. Are we in the 90s again?

I bet you pathetic poorfags don't even use streaming services. Go on and keep stealing, children.

I'm just using musicbee v2.5 (since v3 turned it into fucking shit)

I used to have the same winamp version since like 1999 but I had issues with flac at some point

>>62109220
Yes: http://midnightsnacks.fm/ - he even apparently had a live show earlier this year. Being freed from 4chan's coding slavery seemingly had a positive effect on him.

>>62111403
>pathetic poorfags
>Captura de pantalla

How many years will you need to cut off grass to pay for your i-thing installments?

>>62108947
Nightingale

Enjoy songbird was my favorite also.

>62111403
(you)

Audacious supports WinAmp skins. I would probably use some really funky 00s skin if it wasn't for the fact that I'm so used to the GTK interface.

>>62105659
I'm a weeb and I agree.

>>62105659
>>62112291
The player is cute, the rest is ugly.
That 4chins color scheme is beyond retarded.

>>62100290
It died because everyone is now streaming music you fools. Theres no need to waste 500gb on mp3s now. Also it looked hideous even with skins.