Is there another laptop even close to as a sexy as the XPS

>>62090683
Mibook Air

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>>62090683
There's nothing sexy about a bad keyboard

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>>62090880
It doesn't look too bad desu.

>940mx
not bad, better than intel "hd" graphics at lea

>>62091039
It depends if you can turn off the igpu in the BIOS and use only the dedicated GPU. Buggy drivers fuck over mobile NVidia performance and trash compatibility.

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>>62091060
What a shame, here's to hoping raven ridge won't bomb.

11 Vega CUs @ 800 MHz = ~1,100 GFLOPS

Though I'm not sure if this is the 15W mobile part or the desktop one.

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>>62090683

>>62091117
>a teraflop in an iGPU
What a time to be alive

>>62091039
>Walking around with a fake MacBook.
>Not asking to get laughed at.

Inspiron 14 7460

>>62091203
If anything they'll just be like "Ooh is that a Surface thing"

>>62091203
>"hahaha you spent less money for an ultrabook with the same or better specs as an overpriced laptop ultrabook XD."
I'm okay with that beside why should I bother to care what other people think of me? Should I suck cocks too if other people liked that too?

>>62091191
The windows rt thing completely ruined it though.

Also
>4GB RAM
What is this, 2012?

what about a zenbook?

>>62091243
The Surface has a very distinct brand; people know the difference. However, at least in North America Xiomi is a no-name brand Apple.

>>62091277
If you don't care go wild and buy it, or go for a ChinkPad.

>>62091286
It's not Windows RT, it's Windows S. Basically Windows RT but if you hand Microsoft 50 Shekels they'll upgrade you to 10 Pro. For the rest of this year though it's free. However, I'm not gonna lie the 4gb of ram meme was pretty annoying, but most people will be turning this into a Microsoft ChromeBook so it's alright.

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>>62090683
t440s

Less than 400 on ebay

>>62090683
HP Spectre x360 if can live with no dedicated GPU.

Chuwi hi 13 w/ 3k screen but way lower processor

>>62092035
I bought an XPS 13 because I needed a laptop ASAP for work and it was one of the few things I could get shipped very quickly.

I probably should have just gotten a fucking thinkpad; RIP wallet. Might sell the XPS. I just wish there was a thinkpad with a 2560x1440+ screen.

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>>62092279
I've had mine for a good 2+ years. Got it used and fitted it with a 1080 IPS panel, 12GB RAM, 500GB SSD, and a t450s trackpad. Also got the extended 6 cell battery. The thing is tough and lasts all day.

I've replaced the whole body too after dropping it a bunch of times accidentally and taking a few chunks out of the corners. Looks good as new and a new back cover, bottom plate, and top bezel were less than 80.

Some of the newer, larger ones (P series) might have 4k screens.

>>62092035
I might consider buying this one anon, thank you.

By the way the reviews of these seem great, chose the first one and fell in love with it.

https://youtu.be/L6GvbQPwJuo

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>>62092614
NP man, the laptop pretty much sells itself.

No lie, I showed this thing to my colleagues back when I was in my University and three of them that I know of bought one the next week. We're all loving it.

>buying any laptop other than a <xx30 ThinkPad or MacBook

These are the only two laptops guaranteed to have exceptional software support and minimal issues. How the fuck any of you can buy those Xingchow MiBookProNote whatever the fuck gook name bullshit 2012 MacBook Air clone devices is beyond me. You've got to be dumber than fuck to actually purchase those things. Then again most of the people here are gullible retards who don't know shit about computers and have no common sense.

>>62092279
Thinkpad really is a meme. They're fine machines but not better than XPS (except for the keyboard)
What screen res are you living with?

My elitebook 8460p is pretty aesthetic. Plain silver with black underside. Not the thinnest thing, but like my girls, I like my laptops a little thick.
>tfw waiting for ssd to come in
Life is suffering.

Zenbook UX430

>>62092934
>>62092339
I use a 22" 4k monitor for my desktop. I used to have a retina MBP that was gr8. I switch between "hidpi" displays and ordinary ones often enough to have a really strong preference to the hidpi ones.

>Some of the newer, larger ones (P series) might have 4k screens.
True, but my other requirement is 13-14" size. They are also even more expensive than the overpriced XPS. That size is just poifect for me. Larger and it is just kinda awkwardly large for me.

>>62092934
>Thinkpad is a meme
It's not just about the capabilities but the build quality, durability, keyboard and repairability. All areas that most Thinkpads pull ahead of the competition in.

>>62090683
xiaomi air 13

>>62091039
personalize with stickers
CUSTOMISATION EVERYONE

>>62094898
Learn to read the thread faggot

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>>62092678

>>62091277
>Should I suck cocks too if other people liked that too?
that's what iFags do :D

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>>62090683
this beauty. getting it next week

>>62096037
>>62093078
>ANUS
Gtfo faggots

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STOP RECOMMENDING LENOVO PRODUCTS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>62094887
are they still making decent products?

i still use a t500 and have loved it for its years of faithful service but i think it's time to upgrade.

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>when your laptop gets blown out by a tablet

>>62099097
Geekbench isn't a reliable benchmark especially across different cpu architectures. Where's the specint benchmark?

Also that ipad "pro" runs iOS. What if someone wants to het work done instead of just playing angry birds?

>>62091117
That's the mobile part. They hit the teraflop mark with the A10-7850k @95w.

>>62099131
Multiple IDE's and development workflows are available.

>>62092035
>>62092614
I have a T440S with the 6 cell battery and it's great for the price you can find them. One thing that I absolutely recommend that you do is to install an IPS panel if it doesn't already come with one. Remember to disable internal battery via BIOS before replacing the panel.

>>62099097
>he still thinks geekbench is a useful benchmark
lmao

>>62099390
Yes but nothing like what OS X let alone windows has. It's trash, I'm shocked apple didn't use an x86 processor and made it boot OS X. Such wasted potential.

>>62092339
Do you find that the touchpad gets too jumpy in Linux when using libinput? That was my experience running Wayland with libinput on my T440S.

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Hi

Dude, I'd just buckle down and buy an XPS. A little while ago they were selling them at Costco for a spicy deal. I bought mine for 1400 with 16 GB ram, i7-7560u, Iris Plus 640, QHD touch screen, 500gb SSD, etc. The thing is extremely good. The only quirk it's had is that the Killer wireless card crashes my Archer C7. This can be easily fixed by buying a 30 $ Intel wireless card, or just using a USB antenna at home.

The Lenovo Yoga 720 is a nice alternative, especially if you can get it at <$800 (i5/16gb/256gb) when BestBuy puts it on sale. For the price of the XPS, considering the coil whine issue that Dell obviously doesn't two fucks about (it's been 3 generations now), I would get a Thinkpad X1 Carbon instead.

>>62099013
The thing about the way Lenovo is handling the Thinkpad brand is that it's possible to buy a cheap Thinkpad now. Back when IBM was heading it up, there was no cheap one. The lines that Lenovo continued, the X and T series most notably, are still pretty good. Where you run into issues are the lower end product lines. The Edges, the Yogas. A T470 is of comparable quality to a T420 from what I've heard.

>>62099493
>dat bottom chin

Why?

>>62101206
T470 has Linux-compatibility issues that probably won't be resolved for at least several more months.

>>62101342
That's kind of annoying but it's also a relatively new product. Even with a Thinkpad you use brand new hardware at your own risk with Linux.

>>62101247
>>dat bottom chin
What did you mean by this?

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Thoughts?

>>62101428
knock off MacBook Pro from a LITERALLY PAJEET TIER company for MBP prices

this is the current state of /g/

>>62090683
Maybe the ux550? I'm thinking of getting that, but is the 7500u enough for photo editing? If yes, then it will just save myself some money since I have a desktop at home for all the heavy tasks

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>>62101565
>t. mactoddler

>>62101380
That bottom bezel is like 20 centimeters wide!

>>62102227
What's a bezel? I only know pretzel

>>62099493
Seen too many of these fail for mysterious reasons. We had one in last week that would just shut off after a few minutes or when ever it was jiggled or moved slightly.

Guessing the production process for it was super shit. Then again

>buying Lenovo products

you're asking to have your shit pushed in buy doing this

t. laptoprepairshopowner

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>>62103834
what fanless would you recommend?

>>62103949
>fanless
>recommend

>>62101428
I bought the Envy 13 some weeks ago.
It's okay, it gets kinda hot though.

>>62103949
I'd recommend you stop being autistic and enjoy 5000% higher range of products because of it.

>>62103965
>>62104050
Traveling I don't do shit besides office and webdevelopment. I hardly watch videos. I just need something that connects to the cloud and let's me do very basic stuff. I should be able to use it on the shitter, so the bottom shouldn't get hot. That's all I do. In the rare cases I need power. I power on my battlestation when at home.

>>62104131
2015-2017 Macbook then

>>62104247
>2015-2017 housefire
>lags in youtube
>lags in typing text even

lmao

>>62104270
Not my god damn fault that Apple makes the only fanless system that's worth a fuck. Go jump off a cliff you god damn mongoloid.

>>62104283
>Apple trash
>worth a fuck

lmao

>>62104324
Name a better alternative then. Brand names I don't car about, group think doesn't matter either.

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>>62104024
Did you get the newest version with smaller borders? Looks pretty nice

>>62092678
>exceptional software support
I have never seen software depend on the laptop itself rather than the OS it is running

I am a Thinkfag X230 too but you are deluded

>>62092035
>4 series
The worst Thinkpad gen in history

>cpus slower than its predecessor AND successor gen
>that shitty trackpad with touch buttons
>the beginning of soldered only cpus
>X240 and X250 and X270 only have 1 channel for ram
Dont make me laugh

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>>62090683

>>62104515
He said cheaper anon

>>62091039
A retard in my college has this. It's sad as fuck to go around with a fake MacBook, even sadder that drivers suck ass.

It's fun cause I was almost quoting it in a thread and someone actually posted it

>>62104450
Still Better than a Mac, especially for 400 bucks.

>cpus slower than its predecessor AND successor gen
Also the first thinkpad to actually hit 10+ hours of battery life with 6 cell + internal 3 cell. It runs an ultramobile chip, so it's designed for power efficiency. Does everything I personally need it to.

>that shitty trackpad with touch buttons
Yeah, but you can replace the trackpad for less than 40 bucks. Also, if you don't use a trackpoint, the trackpad is perfectly fine. It has a nice glass surface and a clicky switch.

>the beginning of soldered only cpus
Name one other business laptop today that doesn't have a soldered CPU.

>X240 and X250 and X270 only have 1 channel for ram
Only real con. This series maxes out at 12 GB of RAM, but it's honestly enough.

>>62105222
>Only real con. This series maxes out at 12 GB of RAM, but it's honestly enough.
It's not the size of the ram but the speed
IGPU especially is severely affected by not being dual channel ram

>>62091277
No, it's not better as drivers suck ass as well as it's build quality, plus it doesn't run an optimized system as OS X so your point on hardware is invalid, and it also has the added point of wanting to be like those who suck cocks but unable to get the real thing.

MacBook has a reason why it's liked by people here, this one hasn't.

>>62091313
This is a far better choice

>>62105242
I don't get it

>>62090683
Without CUDA it's useless.

>>62091039
>xiaomi
so the shittier RedMi now also makes shitty laptops. Lol at who fell for this meme

>>62104515
My uncle has one of those. It's pretty cool.

>>62105278
>IGPU especially is severely affected by not being dual channel ram
No shit. I said only real con.

Regardless, you're not going to buy this to game or do some serious GPU computations. For an ultraportable that's relatively upgradable, has numerous parts available online for repair and replacement, and has a pretty nice battery life for cheap, you can't go wrong with it.

>>62105334
Fuck, meant to quote
>>62105253

>>62104420
he's right about xingchow air being ridiculous tho

>>62096271
ASUS is like the only brand that almost never screws up without being overpriced

>>62101206
Also, BIOS level malware. They got framed once but who knows they're not doing it again stealtierly?

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>>62104131
It's branded as tablet tho

>>62105371
You wish. The amount of ASUS laptops and tablets I've had to repair in the past 4 years outnumbers any other laptop brand.

Also, their customer support is shit. Good luck trying to return their products after your retailer's warranty is up

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>>62105414
>another laptop repair person

Lenovo and HP are my two biggest ones, competeing almost daily for the top spot.

Almost never see Dells.

Get a Dell tablet OP

>>62105414
>>62105469
>my tiny sample size likely skewed heavily by large corporations in my area selling off decommissioned hardware to recycler/resellers is representative of brand quality everywhere

Ok.

>>62105469
Don't like 2 in 1s, they feel really loose and frail

>>62105414
That's true with every brand senpai

>>62105469
Also

oh my

What's this?

http://topics-cdn.dell.com/pdf/latitude-12-7285-2-in-1-laptop_owner's%20manual_en-us.pdf

A FULL fucking service manual showing you step by step how to replace literally fucking everything when/if it breaks?

Lets see ASUS or lenovo put something like that right on their god damn website

protip: they dont'

>>62105513
>What're you too poor to afford a bag of shit?

Keep buying trash, dumbass. I will keep laughing about it. At you.

>>62105532
>the latitude 7285 feels lose and frail
>that stupid shit lenovo doesn't.

lmao. Okay.

>>62105557
Lenovo is even worse
asus is better

>>62105534
Lenovo has repair manuals too.
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht101562

>>62105570
>asus is better

There are only three kinds of people who say this kind of shit

Dumb asses
People who don't know better
And people who are paid.

which are you?

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>>62105636
>dog shit sketches that aren't to scale or detailed
>against actual product pictures

>>62105570
ASUS is consumer shit. Utter trash.

There's a reason why we buy business laptops. They're infinitely more repairable. Replacement parts are everywhere.

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>>62105570
>asus is better

I came here to laugh at your truely undeniably plebian taste.

>>62105664
wtf are you even saying?

I just linked their consumer laptop shit. That's the shit that nobody bothers to repair.

If you look at their thinkpad line of Hardware Maintenance Manuals, you'll see that that shit is easy to repair.

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ITT retards arguing about brand quality without even mentioning product lines.

All of you can KYS.

>>62105751
Fuck off back to /o/ faggot unless you have something meaningful to contribute.

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>>62105745
>there's a dramatic improvement here.

>>62090683
Test

>>62092035
I have a few of them sitting around, it's good for fucking around but not much else.

>>62099444
Libinput sucks. I don't know if they've fixed it, but I haven't touched Wayland in a solid year. Maybe one day they'll fix their trash software.

I use i3 with X11.

>>62105674
>fell for the business laptop meme
A lot of asus "consumer" laptops are just as sturdy and repairable as your "business" laptops. That distinction is just made to steal more money to cucks like you. Maybe you also criticize Apple for being overpriced while you're the worst of cucks.

You're probably just a newfag who unironically believes all the shit on the stickies and wiki

>>62105716
It's not taste they just are the best expecially if you want a powerful laptop for less than 1000 bucks.

>>62105674
Look children, this guy is an autist

>>62105745
They both have BIOS level malware tho and newer thinkpads have shitty screens and keyboards so why buy any of those shits after x230

Lenovo is a crap company who destroyed IBM's good job after living off it for some years

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>>62105876
>A lot of asus "consumer" laptops are just as sturdy and repairable as your "business" laptops.

Go ahead and tell yourself whatever lies you want to help you sleep better at night.

Used business laptops are the absolute best bang for your buck you can possibly get. If I had any laptop other than my t440s, I would have had to throw it out a year ago when I completely wrecked the chassis. I dropped this thing over a dozen time and rebuilt it for less than 80 bucks.

Go on eBay and try to find new, cheap repair parts for any consumer laptop. Good luck with that, since they don't manufacturer and sell individual parts for those laptop models. You have to buy a used model, pray that the part you want to replace is still intact, then remove the part off the used one.

New business laptops are expensive because of the support and extra administrative features that are provided with them. It makes no sense for a consumer to buy a new business laptop.

Used business laptops are cheap because business replace their hardware more often than not and dump them even if they're barely used, which people buy for a fraction of the cost. This is the kind of good shit that lasts forever.

If you're just going to be running shit on a Linux terminal and ssh to your powerhouse desktop/server at home, then there's nothing better than a sleek, used business laptop.

>>62105876
Yeah it's ridiculous how some people here actually think "consumer is shit, business is better".

While Latitudes are indeed nicely built, there's also well built "consumer" laptops that give you better performance for their price. and while buying a used Latitude or Thinkpad may not be that expensive, it's also hit and miss (remember abput the guy with bed bugs in his refurbished thinkpad who got his house infested?) and it's not the solution for anyone who needs power on his laptop as a "business laptop" with decent power is like 2000 bucks.

Or you can get a 800 $ Asus that's all metal built, sturdy as hell, easy to repair and also with all the power you need.

>>62105876
>>62106077
>ASUS
>easy to repair

At my shop, we had to actually apoxy a hinge mount back to the screen assembly because the parts literally weren't available any where. This happens quite frequently with all the so-called better-consumer brands. Vaio, Samsung, ASUS, etc ...

It was the most pathetic thing I'd ever seen. Guy was begging us to fix it. So we did something we never do, and were forced to 'jerry rig' the shit out of it.

At least with business laptops, the parts are almost fucking standardized, and in some cases purchasable direct from the manufacturer.

>>62106066
>If you're just going to be running shit on a Linux terminal and ssh to your powerhouse desktop/server at home, then there's nothing better than a sleek, used business laptop.

You keep missing the point. Your chinkpad (a shitty one to be accurate) is no answer for anyone who needs some power on his laptop

Not everyone has the same needs, "business" laptops may be good for salarymen or students who only need to write some code or write documents on word, but if you need power a mid-high range ASUS is the best bang for buck and has the same build qualities your "bisiness laptops" have

Heck mine's 4 years old and still kicking after carrying it around everyday and taking bad hits, if it's build quality sucked as you say it would be dead by now

>>62106170
If you need power get a workstation

>>62106066
>Go on eBay and try to find new, cheap repair parts for any consumer laptop

Found both front panel screen and plastic bezel for a shitty old acer i wanted to repair for less than 25 $ complexively some years ago. Your bisiness meme is dead

>>62106170
>I have no idea what a used Precision is

M4800 says hello faggot.

>>62106170
If you want something with a bit more power, then get a workstation business laptop. It's going to last way longer than any consumer-shit product on the market that's designed with a 2-4 year lifespan in mind.

>>62106159
Depends on what ASUS.

I repair them too and generally the ones with more decent graphics are better built and easier to repair, not much difference with chinkpads.

The ones with the GTX 610M or shit like that are garbage though

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>>62106202
>Found both front panel screen and plastic bezel for a shitty old acer i wanted to repair for less than 25 $ complexively some years ago. Your bisiness meme is dead

Neat.

Now find me a replacement keyboard and trackpad. Also, a main board while you're at it. Oh, of course, we can't forget a new, oem battery.

Good luck.

>>62106189
>>62106222

And go around with a tank on my table after paying 2500 $? Just why.>>62106248

>>62106267
Trackpad, battery and keyboard were all available you faggot. dunno about main board but I think I'd buy a new one if that broke. Thinkpads are not that "built as a tank" if you end up breaking the main board

>>62106211
>paying more than the ASUS to have a worse and used product

>>62106302
Used will be like 1200 $ and who knows how's the conditions

While I can get a new good, more powerful ASUS for less than 1000.

I don't understand your autism guys. Try harder to convince me that I need your memes.

>>62106066
>I dropped this thing over a dozen time
Spaz. Toddler's opinions are discarded.

>>62106305
>Trackpad, battery and keyboard were all available you faggot.

Neat. Probably none of those parts are OEM though.

The problem is that you're not going to find that shit for every consumer laptop. If it's a business laptop, you're pretty much guaranteed to find original parts down the line if shit ever hits the fan.

>>62106322
You literally cant find an ASUS product new for less than the price of a well specced M4800 and have it be even remotely close to the same power and quality.

Fuck off, kindly.

>>62106348
Heck am I the only one who treats his laptop with care? It seems everyone here drop them, hit them, don't you sit on them too?

>>62106373
You can. Unless for you "quality" is the Dell logo and the feeling that you belong in a group of people who share the same autism for "business laptops" and that makes you feel better. Not gonna judge you for that, only I prefer thinking with my own mind rather than doing what some anonymous people on an anime website tell me.

>>62106348
https://www.amazon.com/Osprey-39022-502-O-S-P-Packs-Daypack/dp/B00DUO6AFC

A bad backpack purchase decision was made. There's a reason why they discontinued this bag and updated it with a version that puts the laptop compartment on the inside of the flap.

Check the comments.

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>>62106426
>Literally cannot tell what a quality product is

I should've known when this discussion started you were a fucking retard.

>>62106432
>A bad backpack purchase decision was made.
A dozen times? Did you put your backpack on upside down?

>>62106489
You didn't read the comments. The bag has a side compartment for a laptop. If you forget to zip the side of the bag up, which several people forgot to, your laptop will fall out.

Like I said, they discontinued that version of the bag.

>>62106471
Is that your argument?

a refurbished m4800 is 800 bucks on ebay ok?

It has a midrange i7, only one SSD slot and nvidia quadro which already isn't that good for any task which isn't using autocad. For a little extra dough you can get this baby:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071ZL3996/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503796511&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=asus+i7+7700hq&dpPl=1&dpID=512sYinkCrL&ref=plSrch
>better i7
>full metal built but also slim and light (which is quite important for a laptop since you have to carry it on your shoulders all day)
>both SSD and HDD
>gtx 1050 that owns your little quadro

Why should I not choose this if I need a good and performing laptop and I have 1000 bucks?

>>62106531
What about not doing it after it fell the first time? And you complain about "consumer laptops"

Look I'm gonna complain about the thinkpad's build quality cause I hammer the screen and it breaks

>>62106630
Wtf, I love the thinkpad's build quality

If I didn't have a thinkpad, it would have been destroyed after the first or second drop

>>62106652
Don't drop it and you're not gonna need that autistic chinktop

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>>62106603
I am defeated.

You got me.

Go ahead and buy that garb- I mean, Clearly superior product.

>>62106659
I already have something quite equivalent from some years ago and I'm perfectly cool with it.

Nice scene anyway

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>>62106657
>Buy a shittier product cause you don't need quality

What the fuck

>>62106603
>It's cheaper AND better for magical reasons!!!!!

One day you'll learn that quality costs, buddy.

But only after you waste a lot of money on your stubborn opinion.

>>62106682
I mean, build quality is overrated imho. I'm a poorfag and I always had plastic stuff which never broke cause I'm careful

and yeah, if one doesn't need quality he's gonna buy a shittier product. Will you buy a ferrari if a renault is all you need?

>>62106694
It's cheaper and better for the same reasons Apple products are not better just because they cost more you shill

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>>62106700
I probably spent less than you to get a better quality product.

I won before I even won

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>>62106715
>He's defending ASUS of all companies as the cheaper better alternative

This is reaching abot and costello levels of ridiculous.

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>>62106603
>3 star average review

Yeah, they sure did skimp somewhere

>>62106722
wtf cares about winning, and anyway I have a 300 $ HP which yeah, sucks if for you quality is just resistance to hits, it would be for me too if I were a toddler who drops his laptop never learning to close a zip, but unlike your chinkpad has an AMD A12 with a decent graphics card and an SSD so I can work in Maya decently. It's simply what I needed wtf don't hate me just because my superior quality of being an adult who takes care of his stuff lets me focus on power rather than build quality

>>62106736
>reading amazon reviews

>>62106603
>seagate hard drive
>sata ssd
>cheaper than cheap tn panel
>tin foil build quality
>fans that never. shut. the. fuck. up.
>would literally bend in half in your bag if all you had in there was books and a pencil
>the worst keyboard you can ever type on
>throttling, throttling every where
>No warranty
>No seriously, good luck getting Support from ASUS

I used to support ASUS

I did.

I loved them. Thought they were a great company

Then their shit kept breaking on me

And they kept finding new and exciting reasons and ways to fuck me out of my warranty

You'll learn eventually. Or you wont, because you're either lucky or a dumbass.

Doesn't really matter either way.

>>62106730
Tell me of a laptop of the same specs and lower price and we'll all be happier.

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>>62106794
>specs are the only thing that matter

you keep missing

are you even aiming for the target any more?

>>62106790
>seagate hard drive
perfectly fine
>sata ssd
just like the inspiron
>cheaper than cheap tn panel
as the inspiron
>tin foil build quality
absolutely not, they're sturdy as hell
>fans that never. shut. the. fuck. up.
not this model
>would literally bend in half in your bag if all you had in there was books and a pencil
completely false
>the worst keyboard you can ever type on
always better than the DELL ones
>throttling, throttling every where
yeah I'm sure the 2 in 1 tablets are not throttling
>No warranty
>No seriously, good luck getting Support from ASUS
only for you americucks, here in europe (yeah I'm a german masterrace despite using US prices and links to make you understand easier) laws give us 2 years warranty and I personally had good experience with asus support (a friend of mine got his defective Zenfone 3 replaced with a new one after 4 months from purchase)

>>62106802
The build quality there is good too, and yeah specs are quite important but since your beloved business shit isn't really better in any of them you're playing the fool

>>62106802
Yeah who cares about specs let's buy a rose gold Macbook

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>>62106883
>muh "quality"

The business meme was dead when the consumer XPS was alot better than it's meme Latitude and precision counterparts

If only Dell keyboards didn't suck that much...

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>>62106951
Dell realized that their business laptop quality was inferior to their XPS line, so they just copy pasted the XPS exterior and put better quality hardware on the inside.

Pic related is the precision 5520. Comes with a Xeon CPU and quadro graphics.

I have a last year XPS 13 and I love it. It's a top spec setup with the 4k touch screen and whatnot. The only problem I ever have had with it is that the power brick died and had to be replaced, otherwise it's pretty good.

Have it set up to dual boot with kali and windows 10 and it just flies. If there was one change I'd make it'd be to have 4 or more cores on it. If raven ridge APUs make it to the XPS13 I'll definitely upgrade.

Oh and I ripped out the shitty factory installed wireless card and put in an 8265. Works much better.

>>62090986
ooboontoo

What do you guys think of the HP Envy x360 i5?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-envy-x360-2-in-1-15-6-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i5-12gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-silver/5873909.p?skuId=5873909

>>62091039
I am honestly thinking of getting one of these but fear I may get memed.

There's a new model with an upgraded graphics card and all, specs also look nice.

Give me a reason why I should/n't get it.

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>>62090683
>dell