If you want help: >Assemble parts list https://pcpartpick

Whats a cute itx mobo + case that I can put my spare 4670k.
Something with an m.2 drive maybe

trying to make a cute little computer

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How easy is it to replace a CPU cooler? I'm technologically retarded and had my computer built by a friend who's no longer in town. I figured out how to replace the GPU/install a new hard drive, but the cooler scares me a bit.

My biggest concern is the bracket on the back - would I have to replace that as well, or do most coolers work just as well with any other?

>>62090243
hey cutie,

what cooler you gonna get? What mobo and cpu you got?

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i want to play hearthstone and league of legends on low to medium settings, will this do the trick?

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>>62090283
I don't really know, I haven't put a lot of thought into it past wanting to replace the old one yet. Thinking about replacing it still makes me anxious

CPU is a 4670k, the motherboard is a Z97-G45 according to the box in my closet

>>62090310
my dude you gon have to spend another gpu to hope to get better frames. those games are very hard to play atm

Looking for suggestions on a new case from my NZXT Phantom 410.

I have a Kraken x41 water cooler which has a 140mm radiator and an ATX motherboard

ssds are a meme prove me wrong

>>62090364
>new case from my NZXT Phantom 410
What's wrong with it? Just bored with it? A Phantom 410 will accept a 140mm rad in the roof.

>>62090350
>Z97-G45
oh yes bb. I want to slide my penis inside you.

just get a cpu cooler with LGA 1150 compatibility maybe hyper 212 evo or go all out with corsair 115i for maximum overclocking

>>62090193
>subject in the name field
kys

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>>62090386
I'd argue they are one of the most important parts of a modern system. You can throw all the CPU and RAM at a computer, it'll still be slow as fuck without an SSD. An SSD makes literally everything you do on a computer faster. Shit installs in seconds, shit loads in seconds, massive files are able to be moved in seconds, and your system will start up in seconds. It's incredibly refreshing to be able to boot up your PC in less than 15 seconds and immidiately start using in. On a HDD system you have to wait a minute or two for it to load into the OS, then another minute or two for it to sort itself out before anything will actually open.

t. been using a 1TB SSD as my only storage since 2013, every time I use a system that has a HDD these days I'm reminded why it was such an excellent investment, even at the massive price it cost back then

>>62090405
It was a temp case with half the panel cables are either missing or broken including the power switch.

The gpu is pretty tough to screw in as the back of the case seems warped

If I put a windows 7 pro license into windows 10 enterprise, will it become windows 10 pro.

>>62090446
See, I made a /pcbg/ before this thread, I wondered how I missed this one and shamefully deleted it. That's why.

OP sure is a dumb retard.

Which 1080ti do I get? I'll be upgrading from an MSI 480 4gb 'cause I was dumb and

>wait for Vega

>>62090310

full retard mode; engaged

>>62090453
If you ask NZXT 'how do I source X part', there's a good chance they'll just ask you your address and send you a new PCB with all the power stuff on it.

My 410 has had the USB port PCB go bad, and the front LED die. Both times out of warranty they just sent me new parts for free.

Too bad about the warped chassis though.

>>62090469
Asus Strix is king, it vastly outperforms the rest of the field in terms of quietness/temps. It tends to be pretty expensive though. If it costs more than you're willing to pay, the MSI Gaming and Aorus are also good options.

>>62090469
>>62090499
Also forgot to say, they all do the same clocks, so if you don't give a shit about noise, just buy the cheapest.

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Is it worth getting a CaseLabs case (close to $600 after customizing how I want)?

I have a single CPU and a single GPU. Neither of which I overclock. With the Mercury case, I can have 2x 480mm radiators (1 at top and bottom). Low flow optimized system with dual pumps/flow rate alarms. I want to passively cool my 1700X and any future graphics card. I'll put low RPM/high static pressure fans on the rads just in case of course.

Or should I spend that money on building a standing rad rack externally from the case I already have?

>>62090460
No, the free W10 upgrade was a couple of years ago

>>62090517
so you can't use a windows 7 key to install windows 10?

>>62090506
I do kinda sorta care about noise and, more importantly, heat.

Thanks my man.

>>62090499
>>62090506
The EVGA FTW3 card is actually on par with the Asus in everything but noise I think. Also doesn't look half bad. Usually the same price or cheaper. I personally prefer EVGA > Asus whenever possible.

>>62090482
Hmm that's interesting I'll look into that.

Yeah it's a bit annoying but I may try and find a solution.

>>62090447
I can't wait for SSDs to be affordable enough to be used as storage. Don't really feel like dropping same amount of cash on SSDs as I did on rest of the parts.

>>62090562
The EVGA card is also good yeah. I forget what site it was did a 40db normalised test (like Tomshardware used to do), but they found the Asus card to be quite far ahead of the rest.

Honestly though, I doubt it makes much difference. I've got the Aorus card and at around 2000Mhz it's practically soundless so long as you're happy to run it above 80C. I'm super autistic about noise too, I'd have bought the Asus card had I known it was better at the time.

Just avoid the blower cards.

>>62089634

>My biggest concern is the bracket on the back - would I have to replace that as well, or do most coolers work just as well with any other?

Most brackets are model specific so you will probably have to remove the bracket before you install a new one, see if you can find the manual online

>>62090447

>1 TB SSD in 2013

I'm curious as to how much did it cost you back then

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are these band things memes? I always use one, but do they genuinely make a difference?
asking for a friend.

Is now really the worst time to build a new PC? With high RAM prices for the next year or two, inflated GPU prices, and so much bullshit in terms of such upgrades in hardware happening in the next year.

>>62090603
you realize that that pic is not grounded and makes the usage of the band useless?

You need meme grounding bar for your case to make the band work,and at that point you would directly connect the band,

will a good cpu increase fps in most games even if there wasnt a cpu bottleneck to begin with?

>>62090595
>I'm curious as to how much did it cost you back then
Can't find the invoice in my email search history, I think it was more than 400 pounds (UK). It was the Samsung 840 Evo, luckily haven't had any reliability issues with it.

When I first got it, it was making a whining noise, I contacted Samsung and they did an advanced RMA straight away without me even asking. Some postman turned up to my door, asked for the old drive and handed me the new one right then and there. Pretty damn good service.

>>62090603
on static electricity
>"As you keep walking across the floor, you become full of electrons," said Todd Hubing, from the Electromagnetic Compatibility Laboratory at the University of Missouri-Rolla. "Eventually more electrons don't want to come up on you because you're so charged up. You end up with a high voltage, about 20,000 to 25,000 volts."

t. some science mag

>>62090635
depends on the games. Also depends on what CPU you're coming from. If FPS goes up or remains more constant with less drops than before the CPU upgrade, you were CPU bound/bottlenecked.

I know all about CPU bottlenecking. I bought an FX-4100 when they first came out.

>>62090603
Static is a meme. I've tried to destroy a 900 series GPU I didn't need anymore and it wouldn't die. Shocked it over 100 times with a balloon and blanket (backplate off), even ran paperclips over the exposed solder where the PCIe connectors were in while it was under load, it made sparks and shutting down. Still working perfectly to this day in my second system.

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>have had my x99 set up for like a year and half now
>always had problems quad channel configuration
>could never figure out why there's always problems
>finally 1.5 years later and at my wits end about to trash the computer
>i realize i've been using slots A1,B1,C2,B2 instead of C1+B1
i feel like legitimately the biggest fucking idiot ever, i'm pretty sure that x99-a mobo i returned over a year ago was working perfectly but i used the same messed memory configuration, which ended up costing me an extra $120 to get a new one.

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>>62090643
>20,000 to 25,000 volts

>>62090603
>>62090643
ever touch a metal doorknob and get zapped? Congratulations, you just grounded yourself. Literally just touch anything metal after walking on carpet or before touching electronics, and you don't have to worry about ESD

t. guy who has been building PCs for almost a decade now and never, not even once, even CONSIDERED wearing a static wrist band. Fuck those things.

>>62090193
>no i5
bought i5 7600k for $170, discount enough? asking for a friend...

>>62090510
Just get a 900D and some extra thicc rads. Just be warned, you need at least one case fan to vent the inside unless you want cooked surface components.

>>62090684
Too impatient for Coffee Lake?

>>62090655
well you can just check if the cpu is maxing out before the gpu to check for the bottleneck
lets say im playing gta with a 6700k and it's gpu bound
would my fps increase if i upgraded to a 7700k and all other components were the same?

>>62090691
coffee would be out of my budget

>>62090671
> itty bitty amperage
>>62090677
> remembering to do things

>>62090712
>well you can just check if the cpu is maxing out before the gpu to check for the bottleneck
It's not that simple. Sub-100% core usage doesn't always mean you aren't bottlenecked. For example my CPU usually shows a max usage of around 75-80% per-core in CSGO, but I still get around half the framerate an OC'd 7700K is capable of.

>>62090720
8700K is rumoured to be $385 Canadian, so $300 US. The 6-core i5 should be similar to what the current i5 is.

>>62090733
is there any way you can know for sure before you upgrade the cpu?

>>62090744
Well what have you got right now and what are you planning to move to?

Even if Coffee Lake is good, I think a Ryzen is worth it just because AM4 will be supported for a while.

>>62090469
They are all the same because the voltage is locked

>>62090752
4690k
one of the ryzen 7s or maybe a xeon

>>62090712
no. The 6700k and 7700k are very close in performance. The only thing the 7700k offers is higher out of the box clock speed and slightly more headroom. I.e. 6700k tops at usually at 4.7 to 4.8ghz while the 7700k will do 4.8 to 5.0ghz.

What GPU are you using? What frame rates are you getting that are unacceptable? GTA5 is one of the games that actually benefits from MOAR COARS. Are you experiencing constant low FPS, or just dips? I had a 6700k which I sold for my now R7-1700X. On my i7, I'd get FPS drops to the teens for a couple seconds when running in grassy areas or driving too fast, but get a max FPS of 140FPS with a 980ti at 1440p.

On my 1700X with the same card and monitor, I get lows of 48FPS but a high of only 100FPS.

>>62090761
Coffee Lake is a huge leap, it's 50% more cores after-all. I get the point that it's shit Intel changes their sockets so often, but really, I can't see too many people buying 8700K's and being butthurt when Ice Lake releases and is 15% faster, if that.

>>62090761
BUT

what if AMD jews us, they expect to do this but it is not guaranteed???

8700k also has good single thread performance for those shitty optimized games from the past to be played with high fps and the current games. Also multi thread performance boost

>>62090778
Unless you're having trouble with what you've got, just wait. Haswell is still a good architecture, there isn't a huge difference between it and Baby Lake.

Ryzen would be a sidegrade/slight downgrade in single-threaded titles, and would be a minimal upgrade in heavily multi-threaded ones, it isn't worth the expenditure. At least wait for 8700K.

>>62090796
yes but the 8700k and all Intel chips run like furnaces. Even at stock clocks. And when AMD talks about their CPU line, they're usually on point. Look at how long the AM3/AM3+ socket lasted.

And currently Coffee Lake and whatever comes after is only ahead of Ryzen gen 1 because of optimizations and tried/tested architecture vs a brand new one still getting it's footing. AMD's SMT multi-threading is more efficient than Intel's hyperthreading. AMD chips run cooler, use less juice, and cost less. The only thing holding AMD back is the low clock speed which if rumor has it, Ryzen+/2 will fix that. All while being able to keep your current motherboard.

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What's the best CPU cooler under $100?

>>62090843
If you care about looks, Phanteks whateverthefuckitscalled, if you don't, NHD15.

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>>62090843
Cooling what? At what speed? Do you care about noise? Many options anon. Many doors Edd Boy

>>62090837
Ryzen 7 is pretty hot at 4 GHz. It is also possible Zen+/2 will be also be running hotter too. I wouldn't say the AM3 socket was that well off it did not compete well with gaming performance compared to intels lineup.

We do not know what AMD may do in the future.

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Please help, I don't know what I did wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWT4tFo9-Vs

>>62090882
have you tried clear cmos.

CPU fan is good in place?

>>62090882
RUN ANON, ITS GONNA BLOW LIKE FUKUSHIMA

>>62090901
OHHHH FUCCCCCKKKK

>>62090877
4GHz is even a guarantee for Ryzen, so of course it'd be hot. 90% of Ryzen chips cap off at 3.8ghz at a reasonable voltage.

And the socket has little to do with gaming. I was referring to how long AMD kept the AM3/+ socket around. Meanwhile Intel has been through a shit load of sockets, many of them offering nothing new over the old one other than to force you to buy a new one.

You're right though. Can't predict the future. I'll stick with my AMD and hope for the best. Nothing felt worse than having to retire my FX-9590 and swallow Intel dick for the 6700k. Thankfully Ryzen wasn't a flop.

>>62090882
does it ever make it past post? And look at what that speaker code means in your handbook anon. What motherboard is it?

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>>62090855
4770k, this thing seems to run stupid hot even after reapplying thermal paste and making sure everything is seated correctly
Stock
Noise is my number one concern, as long as it keeps the temps safe I don't care

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Opinions on my first build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nightlyskill/saved/rRznQ7

>>62090929
I am just playing devils advocatetbh

I'm scared though. Will you hold me?

>>62090949
I want to cum all over it. No hdD?

>>62090949
You pretty much got it all perfect minus buying Windows. Dump that shit and put the money towards a 1080Ti, or just dump it and treat yourself to some nice peripherals, or a 24" pizza.

>>62090962
Not them but doesn't ryzen 7 bottle neck 1080ti in some games?

>>62090976
Absolutely, if you're playing older titles Ryzen will bottleneck like a bitch.

Most likely though, the guy isn't buying a 1080Ti to play Company of Heroes and Arma 3.

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>>62090948
Choose from pic related. All of them perform decently enough and both Be Quiet! and Noctua are nice and quiet. Phanteks is known for their more aggressive cooling at the cost of noise.

However, the 4770k was known for having its internal thermal paste crack over time. My friend's did that when he was under custom liquid. Maybe you should consider delidding that CPU all memes aside. That same buddy saw a 27C decrease in idle/load temps after a de-lid.
>>62090976
Bottleneck how? You mean max FPS? Are you playing on a 144hz monitor? If that's the case, you shouldn't be buying Ryzen. Literally ANY use case under 144hz gaming is Ryzen.

And buying Windows isn't all bad. It's a system you intend to use every single day. Fuck it. It's a one time purchase. Fire and forget.

>>62091016
>144hz monitor
yes

so I go to jewtill?

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Help pls.

>Budget: ~$2000
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz ($226.48)
Cooling: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid Pro 280 64.2 CFM Liquid Cooler ($99.99)
Motherboard: MSI X370 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 ($151.88)
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($254.99)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" SSD($139.99)
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X ($329.99)
Case: ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX ($113.88)
OS: Windows 10 Home ($89.89)
Wired Network Adapter: Intel EXPI9301CT PCI-Express x1 10/100/1000 Mbps ($34.99)
Display: Dell S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz ($429.99)
>Current build cost (including new display): $1877.06

>Purpose: Casual gaymen (PUBG, Overwatch, Civilization, etc.)

>Advice: Performance improvement, case selection

>>62091046
>GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X ($329.99)
amazon has the PNY for 300 last I checked but they had like 3 left earlier today

>>62091043
unfortunately, yes. The 7700k will be the only thing to give you 140+ FPS. And that's only because of the high clocks. Invest in a very good cooler, a well ventilated case, and hope you can hit 5.0ghz.

Or maybe just turn down the AA in your games?

>>62091046
post your pcbuilding link so I can edit. I see some stuff that can be fixed to drop the price. I can help you really improve that build.

>>62091072

Oh, I don't really know anything about PNY.

>>62091107

Sure, here you go: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sFGLZ8

>>62090960
O yea I have one already picked out. A 4tb one its just not on the list.

>>62091089
fuCK
I just want a CPU that can 144Hz 1440p gaymen and watch my animes and browse my internets at the same time without autistic stuttering.

>>62090622
>you realize that that pic is not grounded and makes the usage of the band useless?
How can you tell that it isn't grounded? You can't see the PSU and whether the PSU is plugged into the wall.

Recently upgraded my R7 1700 build to an L9x65 Noctua cooler. I purchased the NF-A9 PWM separately and latched it onto the CPU. I put the 14mm variant that came with the cooler on the 92mm slot on my case. Whenever I ramp it up past 40%, it starts making a whining noise like you'd expect out of a fan that's spinning too fast/is old as balls, but it's brand new and rated to 2500RPM. What gives? Did I get a bad fan?

>>62091226
Oh but just wanted to say the L9x65 is pretty great, but it's only a marginal improvement over the stock cooler (75C peak [email protected] P95 load stock, 72C peak L9x65). I might have put on too much thermal paste. I'm RMA'ing my 1700 for a 30+ week version (I'm a Linux dev) anyway but those are my temps.

>>62091124
here you go friend. I cut down on various things and added to others. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HVFg6X
>Changed overpriced X370 board to B350 board
>Removed Intel NIC
>1060 to 1070
>Better power supply, less money
>less ram, less money (why did you have 32GB there anyway?)

With your price point of $2k at a max, technically if you cut more corners (drop the monitor to something cheaper, maybe get a smaller SSD or something) you could squeeze a 1080ti into this build. I left you room for a case of your choice though.
>>62091137
what kind of monitor do you have? Have you already purchased the 144hz monitor? Maybe consider a G-sync monitor. You can then go with a Ryzen build, and run 75-ish Hz and have the same smooth feel in games. Again though, you can always decrease the AA in some games to achieve that 144hz. Ryzen multi-tasks well but its top end FPS is lacking. I have no problems as I'm a 60hz 1440p pleb, but that's me. I see the glaring cons of current Intel CPUs and steer clear.

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does anyone just spend some good money on a new machine and then feel like doing nothing at all with it besides watching streams/listening to music and browse?

feels bad when the gaymen inside you dies when you're only 27

>>62091262

Many thanks! Initially I had been planning for 16GB of RAM, but I thought it might be useful to have the extra capacity. If not though, then never mind.

And I would like to upgrade to a 1080TI if possible, so I'll see what I can do. I'm not really interested in an extravagant case, so that should help.

>>62091342
lemme take a look and see what I can do. Although to warn you, I'm helping this anon >>62091137 and Ryzen doesn't do 144hz gaming well. Let alone 165hz. You may have to put up with lower FPS than 144hz (think 120-ish) or turn down your game settings.
>>62091265
it's called you're feeling burnt out. Find a new hobby/something else that isn't gaming. I posting from my main machine powered by a 1700X, Asus ROG X370 board, and 980ti. I've literally done nothing but post on my favorite Tibetan Throat Singing Forum and watch Jon Wick.

>>62090193
since when did RAM sticks get so big?

sorry, my last build was in 2010

>>62090671
No really, that's actually how much voltage you get. It's just got such a low amperage all it does is zap.

>>62091374

>You may have to put up with lower FPS than 144hz (think 120-ish) or turn down your game settings.
To be honest I'd be perfectly happy with 120. I'm going with Ryzen more because because as far as I've read it offers the best balance of performance.

>>62091384
Slap more metal on them.

>>62091342
Here's a 1080ti version. Technically you can save more by downgrading to a non X 1600, and getting rid of the Hyper 212 EVO, and relying on the stock cooler. The 1600 and 1600X are the exact same chip. One just comes faster out of the box. As for the case, it's $60. Cheapest I could find that wasn't complete garbage. There's the Corsair 200r, or Carbide 270 (windowed or not) all in the same range.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZQGLZ8

>>62091374
yeh its a weird feeling tho, I have a giant urge to play when I am on the process of getting my new computer and it goes away pretty fast once I have the machine, well you're right its time to look for something else to fill dead time.

>>62090193
Did OP's pic go out of their way to get a White power supply just to end up putting it under a shroud?

>>62091438

That looks very promising. Could be my final build, as I'm not overly concerned about skimping on the CPU and cooler to save a few bucks. Maybe I'll dick around with the tower options for a while, but that's it. You've also saved me the trouble of setting up liquid cooling, which I appreciate. Thanks again!

>>62091384
Those are the biggest you can get I think, it is just a overkill heatsink, all aesthetics.

>>62091501
>tfw got a CX750 because corsair case
Kek, gotta keep that rear end of the pc color matched.

What's the absolute cheapest PC I can build? I know you'll all say to just buy a used piece of shit, but I really like building and have not a lot of money.

>>62091482
I forgot to mention. That doesn't mean you have to leave gaming forever. Simply take a break. Start working out. Go for nature walks. Ride a bike.

I noticed after a physically exhausting session of working out, or running, or whatever, I look forward to the feeling of getting home, taking a shower, being all fresh, and ready to play some comfy PC games with a cup of coffee nearby.

However with no physical anything, I feel like an uninspired, worthless slob after having done nothing but play games for the last 10 hours.

>>62090531
Why would you want to?

>>62091384

>big
I believe the technically correct term is 'thicc'.

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>>62091508
no problem anon. For ryzen, their OC ceiling is so small that high end AiO units are wasted on them. Was the first thing I cut.

Hope the build goes well!

Should I really avoid building now? I heard there will be a new RAM standard come next year.

If I get a Ryzen 5 1600, would there be a MOBO that supports the new RAM with the same socket?

>>62091265
Bought a 1080Ti a few months ago for no reason other than I won big on ETH, you aren't alone.

>>62091588
don't do that to yourself anon. Just buy if you have the money to. New standards are coming out everyday/month/year. Just get something that will do all of your needs well.

But yes, supposedly ddr5 will be mainstream in about 2 years or so. As for motherboards, doubt it.

>>62091581

>Hope the build goes well!
As do I, especially since I've never built a PC before.

>>62091517
Get used parts then. You can piece together an LGA1155 i5 or i3 for cheap. If you don't care about the heat you can go for an AMD build, that will probably be even cheaper because nobody cares about AM3+ anymore. If you buy new parts at the lowest price point you'll be getting very poor performance per dollar. New parts are worth it for mid tier or high tier peformance.

>>62091625
When in doubt, consult the manual or youtube video. Like the only time in history where manual is actually useful.

>>62091632

Yes, I will be doing just that.

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>>62091517

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Guys I have an issue; I'm a poorfag but I have expensive tastes. My PC build has reached the 5k mark and I literally skimp on everything possible to save for my PC. How do I get in the mindset that I don't need to have the most powerful machine ever?

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>>62091691

>>62091517
used Dell server/workstation with Xeon
used GPU

>>62091711
oh.

>>62091691

Fit your build to your budget, not your budget to your build.

>>62091711

I yeah, but the bigger problem here is that I think this guy has depression.

>>62091501
Well that is a reason, just not a very good one.

>>62091648
nucs aren't cheap at all

>>62091711
You have to get into some seriously degenerate consumerism to hit $5kCAD unless you're including a desk and chair as peripherals.

>>62091517
buy several used cheap computers and play frankenstien

>>62090193
>SSD Kingston
You fucked up.

>GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz
lol nah

>>62091628
I tried used parts, they didn't work.

>>62091648
>>62091722
Read posts before replying to them.

>>62091832
Sounds like it could be good, thanks.

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Pulling the trigger tomorrow if the hurricane doesn't drown us all.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LRC6wV

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tdgbJV

Have the 1080TI's, motherboard, and power supply all from a previous project. Going to stripe the 960's, because I already have zero touch installs ready, and system is backed up to network storage.

But I'm not sure I want a desktop AND a laptop. May just buy an Alienware 15 + graphic amp, and sell one of the 1080ti's.

All I really play is World of Tanks, Heroes of the Storm, and occasionally WoW.

>>62091959

Stay safe with good nudes.

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I need a x220
I have $15
What do?

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How to into ryzen, retard edition:

-update bios
-download ryzen master
-drag sliders to desired MHz
-click apply
-pc restarts
-get better benchmarks then trying to OC from motherboard menu

>>62092069
>6 core RYZEN hanging in with 12 core mac pro spec
Based AMD.

>>62092066
Suck some dick on Craigslist. All it took for a 1080ti was give or six takers, depending on where you live you might even only need one for an x220

What chair does /pcbg/ recommend?

>>62092104
your moms lap

>>62092086
i should have mentioned this is at 3.6Ghz, stock cooler, and only 1 intake fan.

it literally just werks.

What's better for cooling, positive or negative pressure?

>>62092164
You want negative pressure so air is forced out of the case. 2-3 fans in, 1 out not counting your psu.

>>62092187
say I get 4 in, should would I need 2 out?

>>62090310
Just buy a Mac Pro

>>62092216
I'm not 100% sure. I don't think you can build too much negative pressure. The fans would struggle at a certain point to push in more air.

>>62092164
negative but you'd be sucking in dust like a vacuum

>>62090193
What kind of a radiator would I need to cool a Nano and a 6700k? 1x120mm enough?

Gonna try and fit it in a dan case

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>>62092374
>Positive case pressure
>Not sucking in air even worse

>>62092428
do you actually know the difference or are you just shitposting

>>62092448
More or less, shitposting, it does take a long time for dust to build up if you've just got one fan exhausting.

>>62090949
If your not connecting your PC to a domain, then there is no reason to buy Windows Pro. Save yourself some money and buy Home.

Anything that's not a Vega and Vega cost that can play everything that'll come out in the coming year or two on max, and high for longer?

>>62092584
For 1080p@60hz you should be fine with a GTX 1070 for 2 years. AFAIK they're still not down to a reasonable price though.

>>62092607
So the Vega is the only way to get 1440 120FPS?

>>62092613
Get 1080 Ti for that.

>>62092613
You never mentioned resolution or refresh rate in your original question. Be more specific when asking for help.

Get a 1080 Ti, Vega is useless.

>>62092613
depends on the game but the 1080 can do that currently, in the future not so much

>>62092613
What no.
1080 > Vega 64
!070 = Vega 56

>>62092620
>>62092626
>>62092627
>>62092634
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127942
Thoughts?

>>62092656
>600 dollars for a 1080
dude why

>>62092466
>using home
>ever

>>62092656
For 600 dollars. Simply get a 1080ti instead

>>62092701
What actual (generic use) advantage do you get from Pro with 10? Genuine question as I might be getting a license in the near future.

>>62092766
Actually disable telemetry

>>62092766
nothing, it comes with pre loaded software and the ability to join a domain
get ltsb or pro education if you are able to

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>>62091559
that's something I just don't get about these times

whatever happened to the 0.7 hip-to-waist ratio?

>>62091711
>all out
>1080
>$5000 maplebucks

Oh boy.

>get new computer
>install some basic things and pull some files off backup
>going well
>browser randomly opens up a dozen tabs of asian porn sites
How in the fuck do I even get malware already? I've used my backup dozens of times before this and it was never infected. It hasn't happened again but I imagine I'm getting keylogged as I type this.

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If I get this MOBO, can I install the GPU on the second or third slot? I need the PCI slot under the first for a wifi adapter, but with the GPU it wouldn't fit.

>>62092931
>get iso and check md5/sha
>install
>install drivers
>install updates (if you didn't already patch them into iso)
>activate windows (if using Windows Loader (formerly daz loader, make sure the hash is valid so you aren't installing some virus)
>install FF (don't sync) and immediately install ublock origin, disable IE
>continue installing programs as necessary, try to avoid cnet and the like amd only use installers from official channels, check hashes if something's sketch
Idk where you got your virus from but follow this and you literally can't get infected

>>62092998
yeah it's fine
might be a mobo out there that has that slot on top vs under

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xb9rkT
What can I do to make it better and cheaper?

Any suggestions for a reasonably silent smallish cooler for a low TDP processor (G4560)? I figured this being a budget build the boxed one would suffice, they usually have somewhat, but the sound is rather..distinctive even at low fan speeds inside a dampened case. Easilly the most grating fan sound I've EVER heard from inside a computer.

So far Noctua's NH-L9x65 caught my eye, but maybe that'd be overdoing it. Any others, maybe comparable but cheaper?

>>62090517
Nope it still works!
>>62091526
It has better battery performance.

>>62093069
>better battery performance
You're thinking of 8.1.

>>62091588
DDR5 probably won't become a standard until 2019 or 2020

>>62093068
212 Evo

>>62092998
you can put the adapter in the longer slots too
x1 pcie devices are compatible with x4, x8, and x16, it'll just look a tiny bit weird thats all
>>62093068
if you need low profile, cryorig c7, if you can go with a tower cooler, gamaxx 400 is cheapest reasonable option, something like a cryorig h7, coolermaster hyper 212, or something from thermalright would serve you much better

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HEY YOU GUY WHO TOLD ME NOT TO GET A TAICHI X370 FOR MY MUSIC PRODUCTION BECAUSE I DIDNT NEED IT. FUCK YOU. I GOT IT YOU LITTLE BITCH WHAT NOW. H8 ON A PLAYA I DARE YOU

>>62093335
straight savage
i hope this turns into a legitimate shit storm

>>62093335
congratulations, you fucked yourself on upgrading to Zen+ because that mobo is just about the only one that won't work for it
but you probably won't even need Zen+ because Zen is a monster in the shape of a CPU

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>>62092463
Okay. Let me restate this.

Dust being on the front of your fucking case grill and filters is fine. Just because you need to clean the fucking filters doesn't mean the filters aren't working. It means the filters ARE working.

Airflow = dust. Good airflow = MORE dust. Good airflow + Good filtering = FUCKTONS of dust ON THE FILTER.

>>62093400
>just about the only one that wont work for it
source? what the hell?

>>62093049
Not much to stay in the same performance range

>>62093088
>>62093243
Thanks I'll look into those.

>>62093416
that one Asrock low tech faggot technician that posted here damage controlling the taichi

>>62093437
damage control? what?
I thought this was one of the better boards, i missed this. not fucking memeing quit being fucking vauge and give me at least some details or an archive link or something

>>62093400
Thanks for your shit contribution

>>62093448
Hes damage controlling himself and/or is envious because he has a b350

>>62093335
A whole 120 dollars there m8

>>62093419
Is it a good price/performance ratio?

>>62093522
And i could have still bought your mom 12 fold

>>62093412
On this note, how do you clean the front dust filters? On my case the filters have different shades where the fans are because of the dust. Even if I clean it with canned air, the shade is there. Do I need to wash my filters on running water?

>>62093547
You're awfully upset about someone who tried to save you a bit of money.

>>62090243
Protip: Don't remove the processor to play with it, bend half the fucking pins putting it back, ignore the bent pins then boot it up.
RIP friends computer. Fucker couldn't wait for me to come over to show him how to do it.

>>62093606
Hahaha. Well anon ive played guitar for a while and have met many that are afflicted with what you have. Poorfag syndrome. It actually physically hurts your colon when someone else can spend some money without worrying. They come up with all kinds of empty justifications and reasons but they kniw deep down if they could they would get the good shit too.

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>>62093490

What's wrong with the B350?

>>62093582
One way is to use a small paintbrush to loosen caked on dust.

>>62093748
Its for poor pedros and pajeets

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4dyKjc
will be used for virtualization work as well as video editing and encoding, compiling and general use. also needs to be able to manage with live audio recording, needs to run the DAW and be able to handle at least 16 channels of input, which it should handle no problem, everything in listening, etc. will be handled with a DAC.
I'd like to game as well, but the 1080ti will be just fine for that
thoughts?

How much of a difference am i gonna see between a noctua nh-d15 and, say, a kraken x62 and corsair h115i in terms of temps when overclocking? I dont care too much about noise.

>>62093902
probably about the same, maybe 2-4c warmer
the main advantage to air cooling is noise, followed by the fact that you 1 dont have to deal with potential pump failure and 2 dont have to worry about your fluid which has slowly been evaporating through your tubes running out in 5-6 years killing your pump
most expensive repair on a air cooler is a 25 dollar fan if you get another noctua, or if you're not an idiot a 8-15 dollar fix

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>>62093902
oh what a coincidence, i just had to swap my old NH-D14 back into the PC because my h115i was acting up, i hope corsair help me out here or i'll have to buy a new CLC.
>in terms of temps when overclocking
i'm going to say realistically about a 4-6c improvement under load. which to me is very worth it as long as you buy your CLC on sale, and in your case only if you get it on sale because you already have the best air cooler.

>>62090193
Fuck the basics, building a PC is easy as shit. It's motherfucking cable management guidance I need. There a guide for cable management? What items do I need? What are those black things in rolls in pic related, I'm assuming they're used for cable management. I want a clean rig bro.

>>62094017
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2144766/the-beginners-guide-to-proper-pc-cable-management.html

>>62093539
Meh. Any gpu that's not a 1050ti is inflated so it's hard to judge. At current market prices, I'd say it's the best you could do

>>62094035
Bookmarked. Thanks anon.

>>62093748
kissy kiss kiss

>>62090232

Asrock itx 1150. But at the moment I can only find used. I'm looking for an itx for my 4670k as well.

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Store fucked up my ram order so I'll get a replacement after my mobo arrives ,how can I install windows without fucking ram how can i know I didn't fuck something up without being able to turn the pc on?

>>62095710
you cant. you'll have to wait for your ram

I remember someone in this thread saying he is looking forward to playing Star Citizen in 2 years and that is why he is upgrading his rig. Looking at this gamescom demo, it is clear that is it 2020 Beta minimum.

Is it time to upgrade my i5 2500k?

>>62098520
Depends. I would wait for the GPU prices to drop and then do a full rig upgrade.

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Anyone have an experience with dust blowers like pic related? It's $90 which seems excessive, but if it's quality and stops me from buying compressed air ever again I might jump for it.

There's an older model, but it's only ~$15 less.

>>62090603
You can just keep your forearm touching the metal. No need for the grounding jew.
If you are actually getting paid or running a repair business do it just for the hell of it.

>>62095437
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97eitxac
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-h97iplus
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-maximusviimpact
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-maximusviiimpact
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z97iplus

trying to find a good case and power supply too. First time in the its world but I'm hoping to keep the form factor very small with an m2 drive and maybe a gt 1030

>>62098520
u still good bby.

>>62099560
When do you guys think they'll go back down to normal?

>>62100376
We don't know

>>62099633

I love these, I have the same model but in white. Works awesome for cleaning out computers. Yes they are pricy but I run a computer store and don't have room for a compressor so this is a godsend. My last one ran for about 5-6 years because the idiots ran it without a filter. If your blowing out once in a blue moon, then yeah its expensive, but I use it several times a day and it's worth it for me

If I have a 85W CPU + Mobo and a 750W power supply will it only draw 85W and not cost me a fuck ton of money or should i get a smaller 450W power supply

>>62100376
When ethereum dies or becomes too difficult for most people to mine. that's just how I understand it, I don't know much about mining.

>>62100536
your system will only draw as much power as it needs regardless if you have a 450w psu or a 1600w psu. if you're wonder how much power you need, put your system specs in the link

http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

You want to get a power supply around 100w more than you need to make up for power spikes or something, I forget.

>>62099633
I have a Compucleaner. Cheaper and does the same thing.

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>>62090517
>No, the free W10 upgrade was a couple of years ago

C'mon anon

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>>62090193
What GPU is that? It's beautiful.

>>62103282
asus gtx 980 ti strix it would seem.

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>>62090193
I want to get an M.2 SSD, but my computer is pretty old and doesn't have a slot for it. I've seen PCIe to M.2 adapters and I'd like to know if it would be worth the jump. I have 4 SATA ports and all of them are being used and one doesn't work for reasons. I want to just get a small one for boot and maybe then I could move it to another computer when/if I upgrade.

M.2 sounds convenient and I don't really care for NVMe. I just want a slightly snappier system without having to do an overhaul since my shit is still pretty comfy believe it or not.

TL;DR can an H61 mobo use a PCIe SSD as a boot device?