So, can we like have another /retro/ thread?

>>62029324
I feel like retro threads are the only sane threads on /g/
least bickering of them all

>>62029324
I'll make a confession.
>me, 10 y.o.
>my grandma makes spring cleaning and involves me as well
>find some keyboard
>granny says: don't care, it's shitted up, put that into trash
>i fearlessly put
>years later I realised it was my dad's ZX Spectrum
>tfw still feel guilty for that
My dad doesn't seem even to care about that, though.

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An acquaintance of mine used to DJ using 2x SHARP X68000s. This image is taken from one of his past sets.

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>>62029480
Man I know that feel. I missed my dad's old turntable I threw away years ago because it's late 90s and nobody wants this old vinyl crap anymore.
pic 100% related

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>>62029324
Yes we can.
>>62029467
True

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I have a chance to buy a Toshiba t3200 for a very low price. Should I, /g/?

>>62029454
3D monitors wow!

>>62029642
depends. how low is low?

>>62029717
$10. Have to find/make a power cord for it though.

>>62029780
take it.

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Not exactly retro, just old nostalgic stuff.
Got if form local reseller for ~4 usd (dude even recapped this board).

>>62030422
I might have that exact board in a bin somewhere. Can't be bothered to check right now though.

>>62029642
>>62029780
Go for it, they are hard to find, usually they go for 5x as much.

>>62029560
You know Hizmi?

>>62031153
We share an interest in X68000s, and a long time ago before I knew him I used to work as a DJ on a radio station, just flipping disks (which shows you how long ago this was, radio stations were still using physical media then). That being said, I haven't actually talked with him in quite some time, so I wouldn't say we're friends or anything (actually, I did use the word acquaintance before, which is quite apt).

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>>62031193
Cool.

>>62029602
There are no such things as "old turntables", there are either good ones or bad ones.
The mid 70's to mid 90's ones are most looked after because that's when they actually gave a crap about them.

>>62031227
Mid-70s is when the art of making a everything in an audio stack (including turn-tables) was perfected, and late-90s was when manufacturers started being able to reduce prices without what the manufacturers felt was a quality loss, but which mostly resulted in devices starting to fail earlier than consumers who'd been used to the good quality stuff expected (not necessarily from planned obsolescence like we see today).

>>62031262
>and late-90s
That's exactly why I said only up to mid-90's

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This thing is already retro

>>62031595
It's 3 years old, get the fuck out

>>62031632
:^)
But seriously, will post some actual old shit later

>>62031650
no one cares, fuck off

>>62031984
no bully

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Holy shit I still want this modo.
Late 90s-early 00s asus motherboards were dope as fuck.

>>62029324
No.

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Tape is a fantastic medium.
I don't want reel-to-reel to be as elitist as it is, because it is a damn comfy way to listen to music.
I wish more autists would lay down the ThinkPad and enjoy mechanical devices more.

The price is high already, so the increased demand/interest can only inspire more new-productions.

>>62033631
Stop them from posting then

What's the best software for emulating old hardware?

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>>62033751
>SA-X
Step your shit up, fampai

>>62033631
bump

>>62034335
I already have various metal cassettes. But most tape sounds good if you use dbx noise-reduction.
CromeExtra/Maxima from BASF is really good, good for just relaxed everyday usage.

But damn crome-tape is expensive and rare for Reel-to-reel. Not that it matters at 15ips.
And I would have to adjust the bias manually each time switching tapes anyway.

>>62029642
i have the same one with a dead floppy drive.
good luck finding a replacement for that drive if it dies

>tfw been looking for retroshit for years

What's the best bet for finds? We don't have big swap meets in my metro area. I try to hit estate sales as much as possible, hoping for some hoarders house to show up.

>>62034486
>from BASF
You mean Emtec? :^)
>dbx
>any noise reduction ever
I'd take the interoperability of a UX-Pro with no NR over the dbx placebo any day.
And yes, I have tried dbx.

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>>62034554
Well, this is a sample of some of the stuff I carry around with me.
Since I'm not at home right now, I use the Walkman.

I don't find dbx to be placebo, but it surely limits how many decks I can use a recording on; which is why I only use it for a few mixtape that lay around the specific player with it.

Dolby on the other hand, I have almost nothing left over for, it only distorts with no audible noise-reduction unless you listen to very high volume on headphones.

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>>62034756
>D6C
Do want. This F-33 sounds like absolute dogshit.
Also, why the lack of love for ferrics?

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Could this be a 486?
It seems to have a turbo button on the case but I'm not so sure about this.
Also if a case has a turbo button, does that mean that it takes older AT or Baby-AT mainboards?

>>62030422
>no ISA slot
>bent pins

>>62034896
I have many Ferric tapes, but I just use the crome ones because I have so many, and don't have to change the knobs on the side.

>>62034996
But you have to change them anyway for different tapes to get the best dynamic range out of them. Assuming you use the D6C for recording too, in which case you fell for the meme.

>>62035041
I record with the D6C, but I primarily use my Denon or Technics decks. (The Technics one being the one with dbx.)

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>>62035056
Noice. I use a Technics RS-B18, which has DBX too. Surprisingly good deck for being a single motor transport.

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>>62035098
Right now using this as we write.
Technics M233X

>>62035224
Looks like both use pretty much the same transport. More integrated electronics in yours, though.

>>62035327
I have noticed that most Matsushita's tape machines use almost the same transport system, and the same motors.

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The 2 (two) Denon decks I have.

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>>62035224
>>62035098
>tfw I miss my tape recording days

>>62035625
>Playing on the three head and recording on the two head
You're doing it wrong.

>>62035708
no
Because the erase head is out of alignment on the 3-headed one.
So it is on purpose why I'm doing it.

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There is just something about taking a new tape out of the foil and thread it on the machine.

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>>62033751
>>62033795
>>62034335
>>62034756
>>62034896
>>62035098
>>62035224
>>62035625
>>62035629
>>62036583
>using magnetic tape for audio
>not digital data

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>>62036609
>using DAT
no thanks

>>62036609
They tried to put lossless digital music on a tape format.
Music industry got assblasted and never used it because "muh piracy"

>>62036643
>PDP-125
it makes me think of an alternative universe, where minicomputers stayed the norm and so did tape media, so now we have things like Sony making data cassettes for the PDP-125, a big home minicomputer

kind of like Fallout

>>62036683
Lately I've found myself wishing that Moore's Law had died much, much sooner than it did. Internet of things, monopolistic control of information, self driving cars, AI...these things are not going to end well for humanity.

>>62036718
>these things are not going to end well for humanity.
Humans are not going to end well for humanity, IoT and self driving cars are the least of worries

>>62036754
we don't need to accelerate it with these dystopian inventions

>>62036795
a governing AI and robotic labor force is the only possible utopia though

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Digital tape recording did take place in studios. Big time.
So the tape manufactures actually started the whole transformation from analogue to digital.

I like retro things but I live in a tiny apartment so I can't keep any of that stuff around. I junked all of my old computers and game consoles and run everything on VMs / emulators.

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>>62029324
Who else fucked around with the registration cards for their games?

>>62039966
Nobody filled those out ever. Not even you. You're only imagining that you did.

>>62029642
If I remember correctly, those have ALPS keys, right? $10 is dirt cheap, regardless. I'd pay that.

>>62032814
I can't be the only one who actually soldered a jumper.

>>62042250
No, I meant putting fake info in them like I did.

>>62034913
Oh wow, I remember that.

>TFW dad wired the turbo button backwards so the light would be on while I played Doom

>>62038308
that's boring though

>>62034520
the hdd and floppy are standard

>>62042405
There was no standard for Turbo buttons, some showed Turbo ON when it was running at default speed, some showed it ON when it was running at slow speed and vice versa. My Turbo XT and 486 both show it ON (light on too) by factory default when it running at default.

I recently acquired a IBM 5150 and it is in great condition however, the floppy drive doesn't work and I get 601 on boot before loading basic. I have taken it apart and cleaned the rails with some rubbing alcohol but nothing. what can I do try and fix it?

>>62044073
>601 Diskette power on diagnostics test failed.
How about you Google?

>>62043165
It was all in how you plugged the case button into your mobo. The idea was supposed to be that you turn it off to emulate old hardware though.

>>62044073
PICS!

>>62044310
No. It depended on the motherboard, some sped down with Turbo activated, some sped down with Turbo deactivated. Some wanted the connection closed for it to be active, some wanted the connection to be open for it to be active. It didn't "emulate" anything though, it was a finicky way of downclocking the CPU and bus. You mostly always needed to manually disable caches also for it to be of any use for actual programs that where very dependant on it.

>>62034913
looks pentium era to me from the curvature of the case, maybe a later 486 or 5x86 system

could be whatever though, anything from late 486 to some piece of shit K6-2 board swap

>>62034963
>no ISA slot
No problem, Vortex2 do the job quite well.
>bent pins
What is long-nose pliers.

>>62044417
I think he means for DOS sound compatibility, PCI cards suck for that.
But I wouldn't use it for DOS games anyways, only Win9x so I don't see the problem.

>>62044479
Aureal cards have the best compatibility for DOS sound emulation over PCI, but an SB Live's DOS emu also definitely works 100% on the TUSL2-C.

>>62044591
Not really, they are no better or worse than Live! cards in DOS.
PCI cards with their compatibility drivers suck for DOS games, period.

Also awful sample based OPL emulation.

Every now and then I think about how the first computers would fill an entire room and it makes me laugh

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>>62044712
>first computers would fill an entire room
no?

>>62044654
Don't exaggerate. Both the Live and Vortex2 worked just fine until you hit boards that dropped NMI/DDMA support (late P4, early Core2), with the Aureal compatible across a wider range of boards due to not needing DDMA.
Also the Live's OPL2 was garbage but OPL3 was alright. Aureal synth was meh.
Gamers would have strung these companies up by their testicles if their cards didn't work properly for the large number of dos titles still being played on the hardware of the period.

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>>62044712
>fill an entire room

>>62044737
>Don't exaggerate. Both the Live and Vortex2 worked just fine until you hit boards that dropped NMI/DDMA support (late P4, early Core2), with the Aureal compatible across a wider range of boards due to not needing DDMA.
I'm not talking about hardware compatibility, I'm talking about game compatibility, which was "okay".

>Also the Live's OPL2 was garbage but OPL3 was alright. Aureal synth was meh.
Don't exaggerate, they where shit compared to any good ISA card in retrospect, that are widely available nowadays.
Maybe it was okay when you just didn't know better.

>Gamers would have strung these companies up by their testicles if their cards didn't work properly for the large number of dos titles still being played on the hardware of the period.
Not really, most people still used ISA sound cards with 4 year old boards when those cards even came out.
Also people really where disappointed by the shit quality.

I know this is the wrong thread, but what is the best USB brand?

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>>62044314
I'm currently away at the moment, this is the only picture I have of it

I recently picked up a DOS machine with a missing hard drive. Anyone tried using one of those SD-to-IDE adapters as a DOS boot drive? I've heard the CF ones work, but SD would be slightly more convenient for me.

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>>62044712
It wouldn't if you appreciated the context of it. They were huge because they were incredibly powerful for their time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vTu0KekGOc

>>62044924
Fine looking machine you got there!

>>62044949
>blonde using a computer for something that isn't facebook
miraculous

>>62045330
maybe cause it was the 60s u fucknugger

>>62045464
>the VHS is SONY
Maybe SONY doesn't like VHS so they make it fuck up on purpose?

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Dumping some pics of my collection. Most of these now have shit on them because I bought this shit to use, not to hoard. (fuck me if suddenly old cassette tape becomes bitcoin level valuable)

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>>62046146
Not as big a fan of Sony tape in use, but they certainly look cool.

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>>62046158
These motherfuckers might be the best ones I've laid hands on personally.

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>>62046170
Another tape I wasn't very satisfied with, but with this vintage stuff there's no telling if it was stored on top of a radiator for a decade or not, so it's hard to really tell.

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>>62046181
Don't really like going beyond 90 minutes because the tape gets thinner and thinner, but this one also looks pretty cool.

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>>62046212
Last one from me, I found XL-II to be pretty dogshit in later years while SA started using cheaper shells but still decent tape, but older XL-II and XL-II-S is p. good.

>>62046181
The BASF CR-E 90s that I have sounds quite nice.

>>62046212
The DENON HD8 is really nice, they are metal tapes made to work in Type II instead of Type IV.

>>62046231
It is annoying that tape is such a mystery box of what you get.
The manufactures started to maxi-jew the stuff in the 90's which is sad.
But it is even worse on R2R, because tape-rot is so common, that certain series of tape like the Ampex 406 just disintegrates when you use it.

>>62032814
>2x USB
we got some high tech right here

>>62046478
USB stopped a lot of interesting dedicated hardware.
It made a lot more stuff to be handled in software, which from a "retro" perspective is a little sad.

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bump

>>62050707
nice

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>you ditched all your comfy early 00s setup stuff
>finaly replaced it with all new c2d rig in 2009 because "now I'm big boy with my own money"
>few yars later nostalgia kicked your balls and most of the period accurate stuff either gone forever/FUBAR or just priced like it's made of gold
Well shit.

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>>62050942
We all know that feel. I gave all my beigebox equipment in the mid-00s to the Salvation Army.

On the other hand, who was putting together c2d rigs in 2009?

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>>62051344
Looking at this picture, I have to ask...
How come lan parties aren't a thing anymore?

>>62051358
Games got developed to make people sit at home.

It lame really. Never before have it been easier to get small form factor computer to take with you, and flatscreens doesn't weight anything.

>>62051358
Damn, it was so much fun. Even when I was the"Party Grandpa" who brought in the infrastructure components and spent the most of the time giving support...

>>62051358
But they are. I'm having one this weekend. Albeit with first gen Xboxes and not PCs, but that ought to happen soon as well.

>>62045446
Reminds me programming of Soviet calculators.

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behold my stereo rack

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>>62052431
Very nice, baby. But that's nothing.

>>62052431
>>62052734
I'm too autistic to listen to radio. But some of them are really nice looking.
Sad though that I can't find any usage for CD players anymore.

>>62051358

Just had one, played Quake 3 arena at work.

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>>62045464

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>>62052734
That is really super

But wait, you ain't seen nothing yet.

>>62053985
Nice themed setup

>tfw blank beta tapes are expensive as shit
>tfw I have to sacrifice brand new VHS tapes just to spool them into Betacam SX shells because I want to use my Betacord without destroying the video drum

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>>62031595
Not as retro as this.

>>62054445
That better be an overclocked 300A, son.

>>62044924
>XT

I bought a 5150 with an XT case and a 5161 with a PC case. Purely coincidental, I'm going to swap them.

>>62044924
Also I see you have the period correct keyboard. Fuck that mother fucker, I got a silver label Model M too.

>>62044949
>portrait orientation monitors

hel yeah

>>62054445
>192mb
>XP

Welcome to suffering.

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>>62034756
>falling for the d6c meme

>>62055767
It certainly isn't the last cassette player I'm getting.
But I have been buying more decks instead.
And it mostly comes down to what is available when I look at the used market, and I don't really want to pay a lot of taxes to import stuff from USA or Japan (to EU).

Mods please delete this if it's spam.

So, I have access to brand new VHS tapes, and some Betacam SX tapes too. See >>62054372
Do you guys think that if I recorded compilations of my videos on them and listed them somewhere for around $15, they'd sell? I'm ITTFami btw. Also, do you guys think I should make a tripcode?

>>62055888
Don't spam up the thread with a tripcode please.
It creates drama to no end.

>>62055816
You have to pay taxes to import e-waste?

>>62035224
>has dbx
god tier

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>>62054445
>TFW I have a C2D and 2GB of RAM.

>>62055816
I live in Japan and buy from overseas. It's cheaper for me to buy something from like ebay than it is to buy here.

I did buy a wm-ex631 from a hard-off for cheap, but I don't like that player.

>>62056165
I have to pay 25% VAT + some extra fees for the courier to import stuff to here (Denmark).
But the entire EU is quite big, but searching eBay can be mess because of all the different countries doesn't always include all the items from each other.

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>>62029324
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx6Uh9oQvEE

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I was shocked when i saw there is actually opera browser for windows 3.1 i didnt know the opera was that old company.

>>62056026
>D620
Mah nigga
Unfortunately mine is an Nvidia one and it runs absurdly hot. I cleaned it out and replaced the paste and thermal pads but it still gets pretty bad. Found it in my office's dumpster, with a Windows XP installation full of viruses. One man's trash, I guess.

>>62055501
>not running XP below minimum requirement of 64MB

>>62058113
Someone got it to run on a Pentium Overdrive underclocked to 7MHz as well as 20MB of RAM. Another person got XP to run on a 2MHz CPU.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3wkhDfzqlo

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>>62058054
Mine was a used one running a pirated XP with only the Wi-Fi card driver installed I got over 2 years ago. It also has no RAM door and is missing the "4" key.

>Pic related, how my desktop looks now

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finally found a wifi card that works properly on a Pentium 2 running win98se. gonna need a better browser for it though; Firefox 1.5 lets me ~kinda~ browse /g/ but not shitpost or view the catalog.

>>62058316
3310?

>>62029324
what's that NEC device?
>inb4 webcam

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I bought this the other day. I don't know what to do with it.

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:^)

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>>62058535

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Just finished these, such a satisfying process..

>>62058559
How were you able to purge that yellowing so well? How much effort was it?

>>62058283
God damn that's comfy.

>>62058459
turn it into a portable dwarf fortress machine.

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>>62058591
>How were you able to purge that yellowing so well?
40% peroxide, pic related or your local equivalent. Paint it on, wrap the part in cling wrap, expose the lot to UV for 48 hours rotating each part every 12 hours to ensure good exposure, bam.

>>62058685
That's a great solution. Won't have to worry about buying yellowed equipment on ebay from now on. Would something like this work, or would I need something stronger?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gledto-Black-Lights-9LEDx3W-Blacklight/dp/B06XPFQNZW

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>>62058736
Heat seems to be just as important if not more so than UV, which is why most people suggest just leaving it out in the sun for a few hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZYbchvSUDY

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>>62058736
I'd recommend two separate, non-directional lights, sure the innards are reflective but want to avoid shadow to ensure even UV exposure. My CCFLs are 45* offset ensuring all four sides of each part are exposed, but as I say, I still rotate every 12 hours or so for dat coverage.Pic related is my setup. Some giant triple laminated cardboard boxes, gaff tape, alfoil and spray adhesive plus an hour of time. The giant base was from something else but was hastily deployed when I reslised I'd need a floor but was out of cardboard. The whole thing folds and stores flat along the gaff tape "hinges"

I plan on rebuilding with 5mm ply and better adhesive, the foil is starting to come off, which could just as much be about the cardboard flexing I guess. Either way it needs improvement.

>>62058817
Heat has nothing to do with it. Thermoplastic contains flame retardant, which breaks down and releases bromides, which yellow the plastic. Peroxide breaks down bromides, and UV acts as a catalyst, doing exactly what it does above the ozone layer, smashing apart atoms. Apart from all this I have seen sun exposure shouted down everywhere I have seen it, and I wouldn't waste my time with it. The heat buildup can turn thin parts brittle, and the directionality and variability of the UV source means you often get shadows on unexposed parts. I say if you're going to bother, do it in a controlled method. The results speak for themselves.

>>62058817

i have to chuckle when 8 bit guy does a retrobrite video and clouds appear out of no where

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>>62058989
action shot from a previous batch.

>>62058989
>Heat has nothing to do with it.
Well, actual results appear to prove you wrong on that.

>>62029324
I've stopped coming to these threads because they make me too sad.

>>62035820
>So it is on purpose why I'm doing it.

Surely there's a better way to say what you're trying to say...

>>62058685
Is the process dangerous at all?

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>>62059044
I am quite familiar with 8bit guy, the video where he sends one of his commodores off to a greybeard for some board level work is one of my favorites, but my own experiments and results disagree.

Pic related is a peroxide/sun exposed face plate. Note the yellowing evident deep in the grooves because the sun never got to it. If heat were an element, this effect would not occur, correct? I'm not saying he's wrong, but my experience suggests otherwise. What have you personally found to be effective?

>>62059093
Not really, peroxide will bleach your skin but people whiten their arseholes with it so it can't be that bad. Just don't go splashing it around, it will pleach your shit. There is also a certain stench that occurs as the bromides break down, I assume it's non toxic but I remain out of the room that contains the box unless I have to move parts etc.

>>62059208
Well, if those parts are in a shadow, they're receiving neither heat nor UV.

I mean I'm not saying you're wrong either, clearly UV is an important part of the process, and if your method works for you it's probably a good way to do it. It seems likely that heat is just speeding up the reaction so you can get the job done a lot quicker, in hours instead of days. But sure, if you use the sun method you need to be more careful about getting even exposure.

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>>62059258
What is the risk to the hardware? I have a lead on a DTL-H1000 PlayStation debugging system that is severely "yellowed" to the point it is turned nearly black. I have thought from time to time of using this process to attempt to bring back the original colors. It's much worse than this example.

But then again, I'm not sure if I should do such a thing to a relatively rare piece of hardware.

>>62059360
It might be a combination of both, heat accelerates the process perhaps? Even without direct exposure a section like that in an enclosed space will warm with the rest of the piece in no time, makes sense that without direct UV it may have "sorta" worked. Would also explain why sun exposure doesn't take a full 36-48 hours, the heat speeds up the chemical reaction. I should pipe a space heater into it and run a batch at ~60C/120F, see if that speeds it up.

>>62059379
Next to none, massively thin (like, clips that hold 3.5" drive faces on) and old pieces of plastic may go brittle and break on reassemble, but we're talking 40+ year old plastic here, not 20 like in your PS. If you have another toy to practice on before the main even I'd go for it, you may find you need to vary your exposure time based on what lights you get etc. Make sure you lay on the peroxide thick before you wrap it, and give all the surfaces a smush around at the 24 hour mark to circulate the peroxide around a little. Make sure you scrub the everloving fuck out of the thing with some windex and a rag before you start, focusing on the seams where the shell comes together and recesses. Do the controllers, do the power brick if you can get it apart. Rinse with hot water in the sink once done.

>But then again, I'm not sure if I should do such a thing to a relatively rare piece of hardware.
Retrofags all over the world do it to shit much rarer and older than your PS. Do it faggot. You'll shit brix.

>>62045330
You.. You do know before the PC computer operator was considered to be a womans job right?

>>62042250
Thanks I had a good laugh at that, you are totally right.

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>>62032814
wheee

>>62059379
>minami azabu
rich fuck.
quick order pizzas for him.

>>62058989
>>62059208
>>62059472
Thank you for such detailed explanations mate. Definitely going to try this when I get more equipment at the next car boot.

>>62059604
Fuck off Louis

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>>62058010
Opera's last version for 3.1 is also the most functional browser available for that OS today, for whatever that's worth.

>>62058113
Fucking thing was agony with anything less than 512MB. I can't believe they had the audacity to even suggest 64MB could possibly be okay.

>>62043154
oh no no no no the floppy arent standard i have this exact model.

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maybe some other day...

>>62060692
werent there a 32bit compatibility layer you could install to run win9x exe on 3.1 and 3.11?

>>62059472
>It might be a combination of both, heat accelerates the process perhaps?

What you've got going on here is just a chemical reaction. Anything that accelerates reactivity of the chemicals involved will accelerate the process. This includes both heat and UV light, whether together or apart.

>>62060774
you're thinking of win32s

>>62060774
win32s and it was actually compatible with close to fuck all
Opera 3.62 does need win32s iirc

>>62060774
if you have a 32bit cpu, you're better of using nt 3.1 or win95
i'm not actually certain if you need a 32bit cpu for win32s, but i would assume so

>>62060831
>if you have a 32bit cpu, you're better of using nt 3.1 or win95
>win95 on a 386SX

wew lad

>>62058596
These are still made with new components today.

>>62050942
I had that same case but it was silver. I was a kid and I thought the door sliding up and down was neat.

>>62058591
That's pretty standard.

>>62029324
>>62055665

>>62058559
does anyone know if this works on white power cables?

>>62051358
Still pretty popular to have LAN parties in Scandinavia.

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>>62059830
I lol'd
>>62061409
Absolutely soap.

>>62058319
too dumb for google i guess
see readme.txt
ftp://ftp2.palemoon.org/3rdparty/IA32/

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>>62058387
Telephone system Nitsuko TX-2464.

>>62059830
We used liquid nitrogen in 2002

>>62062262

awww man ... total tron aesthetic there

what does the wheel do on the upper left ?

>>62062530
spins you right round

>>62062363
>Intel Pentium
>XT
pick one

Anyone else like classic boomboxes? I just got a Hitachi TRK 8130e delivered today and it's absolutely fantastic. Fully cleaned & belts replaced for an absolute steal. Some broken ones cost twice what I paid for it by comparison.

Really *really* considering buying some kind of tape deck so I can record some good albums onto tape from my PC.

>>62063826
Why? The quality of recording on a boombox and playing back is horrible. Just put a bluetooth receiver in it.

>>62064129

that's not very retro.

>>62064159
the boombox is still retro
do you also shit on people who use modern storage expansions on old computer?

>>62062363
How do I get one of those LED segment displays for a modern computer?

>>62064129
>just put a botnet receiver in it.

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Borrowing this baby from my dad. It's a bit old and worn but it works like a charm, love taking pictures with it.

New Techmoan video on portable cassetteplayers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9wT2Y4W-T0

>>62064841
fuck off tinfoil retard

>>62062346
Doesn't work on 98.

>>62065195
https://sourceforge.net/projects/kernelex/

>>62065205
Still doesn't work. Doesn't matter what extensions or settings you use. KernelEx is not magic.

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>>62064925
>don't waste resources repairing stuff
>just buy new stuff

This guy is /g/ as fuck.

>>62065301
>Still doesn't work.
Bitch please, I'm running Opera from 2012 fine with it.

>>62065319
you mean neo-/g/
the consumerist one

>>62065325
You can get all the way up to FF 11 on it too but more modern like palemoon 26 is right out.

>>62065339
Yes.
And sadly we have to share the board with these shitters jumping every bandwagon they can find.

>>62065530
Well, there's only that much you can push an extremely outdated closed-source OS.

>>62065319
>Wow people get a life, you are just wasting precious time, money and earth resources.

I rate 4/8.
Techmoan can't hear him anyways over all the enjoyment and money.

>>62060760

>ThinPad

>>62060760
You didn't buy it? It's worth more than a 100€ easily

>>62060760
>finfag can't get into thinpads

>>62065939
How did you do that?

>>62067323
http://calormen.com/vnIIc/

>>62059472
Is it ok if you dont have it in uv during the night, or do you need an uv lamp for the night

>>62067478
If you're doing it with the sun you won't need that long anyways, if you use a UV light you already have your answer.

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retro_irl time

post old tech found out in the wild

pic related, it's a Sun Ultra 5 that I saw in a lab on campus today

>>62067790
KEK

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>>62064925
lol

>>62067307
But isn't that Estonian?

>>62034486
>dbx
>not dolby S

>>62068850
>Dolby S

>>62068790
it is t. finnfag

>>62068850
>lol i watched the techmoan video about cassettes and i know so much about tapes xD

>>62062262
German HP?

>>62044404
>some piece of shit K6-2 board
Well, I just bought it and you were right.
However, can't complain over a slightly yellowed AT case which cost me 5€ + approx. 5€ gas.
The motherboard is SY-5EAS, gpu is PCI Trident and soundcard a ISA AD1845. None of them is what I really wanted.

>>62067347
looks awesome, nice apple IIc, been trying to get my hand on one but PAL regions are a pain in the ass when it comes to retro computer. I have a PC9821-Ne, had to buy 100€ worth of adapter and step down converters.

>>62060706
256MB was sufficient for XP (at least before SP3).

>>62065530
I think FF 10 is the limit. FF 11 is unstable.

>>62034913
Could be anything from a 386 to a Pentium III. (There were Slot 1 AT boards made, usually from PC Chips though.) Although that looks like a Pentium or newer.

>>62062530
wild guess: screen brightness?

>>62060706
My father at one time had XP SP3 on an old Celeron 533, 384MB RAM, 10.2 GB HDD tower of his. He really only needed XP for newer business programs and it ran fine for him.

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>>62070506
The first computer I installed Windows Xp on was an AMD Duron 750MHz, with 256MB SDRAM.

>>62069902
You can actually go all the way up to 14 with the right stubs but it's unstable as shit.

>>62070648
You post these pics in literally every retro thread lol

>>62070574
Are those browsers better than Opera 12.02?

>>62070558

Would you say that a Duron 750Mhz a good Win98/DOS gaming platform? I feel like the 1998-2001 era PCs cover the widest range of old and new stuff. Like you can play Doom 1 and 2 without hickups, and also partake in some early 3d-accelerated games, maybe even use the internet. 386-486es look cool and all, but they're nowhere near as usable and just end up as decoration most of the time...

>>62071260
It was good enough for the time. But surely there must be some Athlon or Pentium things viable that has more features.
It was pretty shit in many ways.

>>62071407

Duron was just like Celeron was for the PIII, wasn't it? I don't recall it being bad exactly, just a "cheap athlon".

>>62070756
No.
There was an attempt to modernize mozilla for win98 called retrozilla but basically all the author did was fork it, search and replace mozilla/retrozilla and then abandon it. It's even more stillborn than /g/'s netrunner browser.

>>62071260
Computing and graphics power was doubling yearly in that era. The gap between 1998 and 2001 is enormous compared to a similar time span today.

>>62071468
It was just an Athlon with half its L2 cache disabled. MaximumPC at the time recommended them for budget gaming machines because games weren't really heavily bottlenecked by CPU cache.

I first played Morrowind on a Duron 900MHz and it was fine once I upgraded from 256 to 512 MB of RAM.

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Would my dual Pentium III machine be considered retro? It's running Gentoo right now and I use it quite often for day-to-day use.

This is the kind of equipment I dreamed of owning when I was younger. I've always admired the aesthetics of 90s and early 2000s computers (but not so much for Apple stuff). But now, it's the kind of equipment I own because I was able to get it for free from some cool people I know. This particular machine was given to me by an old Electrical engineer I know, he's probably in his 80s now. Probably one of the smartest people I know IRL.

Also, notice the AMD heatsinks in this computer. I accidentally broke the latches for the original heatsinks (oops) and so I had to improvise with what I had, which turned out very well. Plus I get lower temperatures now, too.

>>62071988
I had a IBM with dual Slot 1 PIII's as a kid, when it was new, got it thanks to my moms work

>>62071522
That project doesnt seem that dead though
>mfw ppc still has browser support

>>62070558
I miss the old days. I have a Duron 800, 512MB DDR400, and a sweet sweet GeForce 2 MX400 32MB. However, I swapped it out for a Radeon 9200 128MB.

I miss my childhood. Throwing together computers, testing them, overclocking them, recombining them into every combination I can think of.

Everything is so expensive, and all the data is out there already these days.

I never thought this would be me, but I am wanting for a simpler life. I have an i7-7700HQ in my Alienware R3 and an AMD FX 8370e. i have PCI-E storage and huge hard drives out the wazoo. The internet! It is fast.

I remember when I was 11 and I put together a sweet Socket 7 Pentium system. P75 overclocked to ~100MHz! 32MB of SDRam. 6GB PATA HDD. Oof I loaded that bitch with Win95 and played Starcraft like a boss over my 28.8 modem connection.

A beautiful time.

>>62069273
it looks like his is a european model also

>>62071988
Reminds me of the richfags on usenet bragging about their dual-cpu rigs and how it doubled performance across the board.
Rigs which they ran Win98 on.

>>62072526
>win98 on SMP machines
OH GOD WHY

>>62072562
is classic mac os SMP capable?

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bumping with a retro meme

>>62030422
>Three ram slots

What

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>>62073880

>>62074621
>Disrespecting elders
Hello, Tranny

>>62074572
What about it?

>>62033795
How much do these go for?

What would it be like to browse 4chan right now with top of the line computer hardware from 1997? The way I see it it would not be that different. Compare it to the Thinkpad X201 I am typing this from.

>1280x800
easily doable with CRTs of the time, although you would probably prefer 1280x960 1024x768 on a 4:3 screen.
>24 bit color
Also easily matched
>responsiveness
I assume you'd want a powerful CISC based system. Something like a SGI or Sun workstation. Or is that going too far past "top of the line" to be reasonable? How about a 450mhz Pentium II system with 128mb of RAM?

>>62070506
I used such a set up until around 2006 and never thought of my PC as underpowered.

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>>62075275
when I was working on top-of-the-line PC hardware from 1996 (2x200 MHz 512K PPro/128MB) I was shitposting from it all the time, really the only issue is that they can't handle the catalog and you have to manually copy and paste post numbers to quote, otherwise it's perfectly doable

with high-end RISC systems you'll probably run into compatibility problems more than anything, sometimes it's hard to find a good browser unless you install a later OS version or pussy out entirely and install some boring BSD or Linux distro

>>62072831
to a limited degree, the OS won't do shit with it but individual applications like Photoshop could utilize additional CPUs by themselves

>>62029324
Pqowirbfn

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>techmoan makes a video about some good old shit

>ebay bids and prices skyrocket


I fucking hate modern internet.

>>62075488
Assume you do install a boring Linux distro like Xubuntu or even Puppy Linux. Would that take care of compatibility issues?

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>>62059026
>still wrapping shit up when it already is in a fucking closed cardboard box

You're doing it (partially) wrong.

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>>62075275
98se w/kernelex kind of works. Earlier than that becomes even more of a shitshow.

>>62075640
Well, I forgot that you probably can't install Xubuntu on that kind of hardware. What Linux distros exist that run on it and are still updated?

>>62075600
>not having a bot that automatically buys everything that he recommends as soon as he publishes a video and republishes it with double the price

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>>62075671
>Adam Sandler

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>>62075696
The track playing before that was pic related. :3

>>62030422
>3 ram dimms
What the fuck

>>62075721
That's better.

>>62075742
caps need room and it was a time when 192MB Ram was a meme

>>62075671
>>62075721
What else did you get working under KernelEx?

>>62075821
Not much.

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while taking this pic, i realized my desk is starting to bend

received my 8042Q trinitron today

the dell box i intend to eventually dual boot windows 95 and nt4

and the hp was a dumpster find now running win2k w/ kernelex for older games. tried to put a xeon in it but the system rejected it and i couldn't mod the bios, also has an hd 5450 card

also have a few other retro tech pieces, oscillating fan, tape deck, stereo receiver, stereo console, vcr and crt tv...

>>62075640
maybe if they actually bother to maintain the port
>>62075679
maybe OpenBSD or Debian depending on the platform, most of that shit is stagnant or server-focused anymore though probably, but I don't really know since I've never bothered to install it, since at that point I'm just getting the same experience I can get out of any old shit PC but even slower and less compatible, a lot of the more proprietary platforms like SGI and earlier HP systems run Linux/BSD like fucking garbage too since freetards couldn't get their dicks up due to lack of documentation

probably better off just picking a good period-appropriate version of the operating system it was built to run and X-forwarding a browser from a newer, more conventional system honestly, if you managed to find something with a newer browser it would absolutely fuck whatever system you picked right up the ass anyway, even the old version of Firefox I ran on that NT4 system could bring it to its knees sometimes

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Found this piece of poo in the dumpster last night. Latest file was dated 11 Nov 2004 so it's probably been sat around for over 10 years. Battery obviously dead and the HDD had seized. It did spin up the third time but fuck was it load. Sounded like an ear raping alarm. Other than that is in pretty good condition.

>>62076204
That keyboard looks comfy.

>>62075275
You don't even need top of the line. I browsed 4chan two years ago with a Dell Latitude CPX with a 400mhz Pentium II in it with Opera 11 and it was fine. However,
>>62075488
same deal with no catalog and having to copy/paste quotes.

>>62076428
yeah I'd say pretty much anything with >64MB of RAM and a compatible browser can shitpost here, 4chan doesn't have that much overhead

>>62076628
looks like something someone would use as backdrop for a boards of canada track he uploads to yt lol

>>62029324
Fuck, macs were so god damn comfy in the 90s. Now they just feel like soulless machines just like everything else.

Is it possible to dual boot Windows 95 with Windows 10?

>>62078349
sure, though you might have trouble finding a machine that can run both

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My WM-D6C in operation.

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>>62079021

>>62074572
>>62075742
how old are you??

>>62060760
kek

>>62075874
nice

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Started building this a couple of years ago, had the frame sand blasted to remove rust and repainted in the factory colour by a paint shop last year. Been looking for original IBM parts and building it up since then. Need to find a working MFM hard drive and IBM Model F keyboard next.

>>62079727
Very nice anon

>>62079727
what's wrong with the drive? it shows a C prompt, so you're running it with a hard drive?
VGA? are you going to go EGA with a IBM 5154?

>>62033299
what's that?

>>62076204

Nice poo. Older hard drives, and especially the early 2.5'' ones whined a lot even when new. I have a laptop from 1999 and when you turn it off it feels like a jet engine winding down into complete silence.

>>62079843
looks like a machine language monitor with code that's when executed says "hei retro fags"

>>62079833
Drive went bad about a week after that photo was taken. It's a Seagate ST-412, severe vibration and bearing whine. It has an IBM CGA card installed, and I have 8-bit MDA, EGA and VGA cards around so sure, if I find a 5153 or 5154 in Australia then I'll get it.

>>62080156
ST-225's at least are still quite widespread and pop up from time to time

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>>62079727
I have a drive with controller and cables just sitting on the shelf.

>>62079843
That's PETSCII, I can tell from the pixels.

>>62075275
No idea about 97, but i can post perfectly fine from a 550mhz TiBook running OS9. I have the same issues as >>62075488, but that is just because of browser issues.