>6 cores 12 threads THANK YOU BASED INTEL AYYMD IS

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>6 cores 6 threads

THANK YOU BASED INTEL

>>62012640
> Supports two channel ddr4
fucking keked

Is it actually soldered this time?

>>62012640
>6 cores 12 threads
Oh look, who is dragging their legs after competition

Wow, it's not even winter yet and the heaters are coming out onto the shelves.

>massively overpriced for what it is
>requires new chipset/rebranded socket
>still on 14nm
>no 8C/16T model so as to not eat into sales of the even shittier, even more overpriced X299 models

ayy

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>>62012640
Wow it does VR too! xDDDDDDDDDDD

>>62012640
Oh look, suddenly 4 cores isn't all you ever need

>>62012640
>Requires 300 Series Motherboard

Intel is finished.

Does this require new socket?

I bet it does

>>62012930
No, but you do require new chipset.
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>>62012930
>Requires 300 Series Motherboard

>>62012953
>>62012944

TOPKEK SOCKET A YEAR KEEPS GOYIM IN FEAR

>>62013255
You think that this was year of the Linux? Guess again, this was year of the socket!

>>62013270
Every year is the year of the socket.

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>>62012749
Anon, I...

>>62013255
Everytime intel changes the socket, they add more power pins, so the power can be spread better and more power can be shoved into the chip.

"Don't worry goyim, the LGA 5600 is a cool, efficient 2KW chip"

>>62013363
B-but 1150 had less pins than 1155.

>>62013363
TOPKEK

>>62013371
So, "same socket" but with fucked up pins to avoid using better parts?

>>62012824
hah

Too late I fell for the ryzen meme thanks to all the r/amd shills

I regret it every single date I should have waited

>6 cores 12 threads
>more expensive than 8 cores 16 threads
>slightly better single core performance
>twice the power consumption
>overpriced boards

>>62013552
Please buy Intel Corporation products.

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>>62013552
shhh...you'll wake the jews. just don't jingle the change in your pocket anymore.

Why the fuck Intel won't let ppl use the new chips with 100/200 series M/Bs. Do they really overestimate their powers that much or they are outright that fucking greedy?

Also, 9th gen gonna need a new EPS 16 pin connector, the 8 pin one won't cut it with LGA 6 GORILLION 500W chip.

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>>62013552

>>62013676
Because none of the previous Z line processors supported more than 4 cores idiot.

>>62013970
definitely something a BIOS update couldn't fix

>>62012640
>I CAN FINALLY PWAY 4K CAWADOOTY
Fuck off back to /v/ gamefag.

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>>62013995
DELET THIS

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>>62012640
Daily reminder

>>62012640
BUY A NEW MOTHERBOARD FOR OUR JIZZ-FILLED HOUSEFIRES EVERY SECOND, GOY

AHAHHAHAAHAHAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

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>>62014178

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>>62012875
w-wait for cannonlake

>>62013474
see
>>62013552

>>62012640

Finally Intel is making up ground. Too bad they're still unjustifiably more expensive.

>>62013474
You actually don't. Ryzen is great and your mobo will last. Enjoy your PC, fa.m

>>62013552
DELET

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>>62013474
>I regret it every single date I should have waited
Work on your English before you false flag, shill.

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Fuck it.

New computer ordered.

I just gotta get Noctua to send me a mount for my U12P SE2 and find a good deal for a Pascal GPU.

>>62015890
Why did you spend extra dollars on 1600X when you could've just bought 1600? They're the same processor except 1600 comes with cooler and 1600X does not.

>>62015960
The X sounded cooler.

>>62016034
baka

>>62015960

Because I already have a better cooler so it's meaningless, the difference is just twenty bucks and the 1600x is at least guaranteed to hit 4ghz without the necessary voltage burning my house down. I'm not even sure yet I'll bother to OC.

>>62013270
More like the year of the suck it, am I right, ladies?

>overpriced CPU
>overpriced mobo
>have to delid
gee thanks Intel

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>>62016034

There is that too.

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>not falling for the i9 meme

>>62013676
Don't worry, you'll have some fancy prototype 10nm chips on cowfee lake platform. Too bad you'll need a new mobo for the real 10nm ones though.

>>62012640
>6 cores 12 threads
So the same amount of cores than 1600/1600X Ryzen. Is it the same price as well?

>>62016196
Hahaha no.

>>62016196
>50% more cores than 7700k
So 50% higher price.

>>62016260
*150%

>>62016335
You're not funny.

>>62016279
so 2.5 times more expensive?

>>62012640
>Requires Intel 300 series chipset
A SOCKET/CHIPSET CHANGE A YEAR KEEPS THE GOYIM IN FEAR

>>62012640
Intel has more A E S T H E T I C packaging than AMD prove me wrong.

I have a brand new 6850k coming today that I got for $150. Any reason to go Coffee Lake?

>>62013474
SOPA

>>62013474
>I regret it every single date I should have waited
The state of brazilian education is really sad.

>>62016490
No, your 6850K will probably be just as fast.

Link to details? WCCFTECH usually has this shit but they only have an article on u series.

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>>62016168
YASSS

>>62013995
S-shut up goyim it's not feasible

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What the fuck OP?
Where did you get that image?

>>62016629
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/products/hero/foreground/processor-box-8th-gen-core-i7-1x1.png

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/products/hero/foreground/processor-box-8th-gen-core-i5-1x1.png

From Intel's own website

>>62016481
19whatevers called, they want their neon colours back

>>62016540
*more of a joke

>>62016481
look at the thread ripper retail packaging , its amazing

>>62013255
>A CHIPSET A YEAR KEEPS GOYIM IN FEAR
FTFY

>>62016941
Smooth.

>>62012640
THANK YOU BASED MINERS

GAYMERS ARE FINISHED & BANKRUPT

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HAHAHA BTFO
AMD IS THE BEST
HOW CAN INTEL EVEN RECOVAR?
S
O
P
A

>>62012646
>6 threads

cringe, even r3 has more threads

>>62016941
rofl

>>62016196
finally I can upgrade my 7 year old intel processor to get more cores
>tfw 980x

>>62012640
is it worth upgrading over i7 860 ?

>>62018189
You could buy anything made in the past several years and it'd be a good upgrade over that.

Very interested to see the 6/6 performance and how much of an upgrade from the 7700k it is

>>62016983
d-d-d-delid d-d-d-d-dis

>>62016941
The absolute state of Intel right now

>>62018320
Probably a 40% multicore boost. Zero single core boost (4.7 GHz is still just a rumor)
>>62018626
Even their room entrance is delayed.

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>>62012640
Ugh, it's coming in october (acording to the japs at PC Watch).
I hoped it would launch this month.

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>>62016481
>Intel has more A E S T H E T I C packaging than AMD prove me wrong.
AMD packaging has cats.
You are already dead.

>be losing customers to Ryzen products
>instead of offering cuts and incentives they actually INCREASE anti-consumerist practices and fuck over customers even more than usual
>kiking even more when you're LOSING

Are they fucking retarded or something? Why are they operating backwards?

Remember when your motherboard wasn't obsolete in 9 months?

>>62019117
Yes, I'm on my first Intel rig, I always used Amd before.

>>62015960
Because binning

>>62012640
Did they really slap a fucking VR sticker on their processor?
Hell in this day and age my fucking oven is VR ready

>>62016941
that stutter wouldnt be there if it was ryzen

>>62016941
>Coffee
>October written on it
So it's confirmed for october after all.

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>>62019326
Oh shi...

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>>62018956
>>62018980

>>62019456
Was that a Fermi before the Photoshop? Or wait, GeForce 260 - it has that weird external IO chip.

>>62014870
>ryzen is great

LOL

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>>62012640
>>62012646
TY BASED BRAZILIAN SHITPOSTING

>>62016999
>Mad that people have hobbies.

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>>62016344
"OYYYYYYYYYY VAVOYYYYYYYY GOYIM STOP MAKING FUN OF US"

>>62016941
they stutter in real life too

>>62019509
Katto know it's shit
Thinks it's the shit try to bury on litter box

>>62016941
POOTEL STUTTERFIRES
>POOTEL STUTTERFIRES
POOTEL STUTTERFIRES
>POOTEL STUTTERFIRES
POOTEL STUTTERFIRES
>POOTEL STUTTERFIRES

>>62018189
>i7 860
Lynnfield is pretty shitty by today's standards. Even Sandy Bridge kicked it in the dick.

>>62019078
Cute, Intel releases a better product and autists from /pol/ and pajeets screeches.

How dare a company release a better product, those slimy Joos!

>>62020989

let the SOPA flow through you.

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Wait so this isn't compatible with z170, even though socket's the same?

So I should just buy a 7700k before they go out of stock?

>>62020989
Just like when AMD did it in march/april, anon.

>>62021042
I'm going to assume you have a 6700k, because you sound retarded. Also no, you shouldn't. Upgrading from anything 6000 series to 7000 series is stupid unless you're watching 4k netflix on microsoft edge.

Otherwise, it's the same fucking chip.

>>62012640
That box looks really great.

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>got a 7900x
>happy as fuck with my purchase
>great Performance and Temps even under heavily games/video/or simulation work
>actually kinda love Intel now
>hoping the best with coffee lake
>peeking coffee lake stuff for my new Lil server build
>haven't gone amd since 2009
Anyone else relate?

>>62017305
no it doesnt
that said, intel got rekt

>>62021749
it really does look fantastic doesn't it

>>62012640
>Intel uhd graphics
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Can't believe it's happening
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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So AMD won after all?

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>>62021765
This is bait. No one bought an i9 unironically.

>>62021765
Most people were waiting for Threadripper honestly.

Is that it?

>>62013552
>slightly better single core performance

3.8ghz vs 4.5ghz is more than "slightly better", and that's before either is overclocked. 8700k will kick a 1700's ass in gaming and single core tasks

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>>62023192
>4.5 6 core

>>62022124
How upset are you gonna be if I said that I actually did unironically buy a 7900x for vfx/video/gamedev work and that I unironically enjoy the performance it has been giving me

>>62023222
Not him, but why not. It's not like it has hugely worse price/perf than 1950X - the disadvantage is there but it's not making the Intel look completely stupid - and has the perk of better single thread.

More importantly, brand preferences are just there. Intel fan won't feel well with AMD chip. It is silly but it works like that. More with some, less with some, to a degree even with many people thinking they are unaffected and "jsut pick the better stuff".
For example, AMD is better for the stuff I do but if it was suddenly changed and it was Intel, I wouldn't like it.

>>62012875
truth

>>62016185
don't forget about the 5% performance improvement

>>62023222
id say your actually retarded

>>62012640
>300 series motherboards
jews dot jaypeg

>>62012646

Merci Docteur

>>62012646

Grazzie dotore

>unlocked K CPUs will have soldered IHS
AMD btfo?

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>>62023320
It actually has terrible price/performance. By far the worst out of any of the X299 CPUs.

You'd be better off getting the 7820X if you wanted max price/perf out of X299.

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>>62023959
They aren't even soldering their premium $1000+ CPUs. The beancounters are running the show. No solder for you.

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>>62021042
I have an i3 6100. Which I bought with intentions of buying an i7 down the road.

>>62024107
opps, meant for
>>62021232

>>62024107
7700K is already down to $300 or something. I don't think it'll get much cheaper until after Coffee Lake is actually out.

x99 was a good investment

>>62024148
Intel doesn't ever discount, so you have to relly on second-hand and the like.

>>62013676
I'm not sure, but if there is any reasoning besides wanting to sell moar chipsets, it could be that the IGP is supposed to support newer HDMI versions. That might be related to the chipset interface.

>>62012640
>requires Intel 300 series motherboard
Ayyyyyyyyy

>>62024148
I was more wondering if Coffee Lake would work with my motherboard(z170).

Which apparently it won't. But Kaby Lake should?

>>62024107
>I have an i3 6100. Which I bought with intentions of buying an i7 down the road.
>buying an i3 ever
well, whatever. Depends on what price you can get for a delidlake. If the 6700k is much cheaper buy that, also if you're running win7 you can't use kaby lake without a "patch" or running WSUS offline. Also consider a used skylake. They're not that old yet and unlikely to be degraded to shit. There is seriously almost no difference between 6700k and 7700k barring a few hundred mHz.

>>62024247
Yes, but if you have a Z170 you're already running Skylake, and Kaby Lake isn't an upgrade at all.

>>62012749
DELET

>>62024307
The i3 6100 / Z170 combo was actually a good value because a specific BIOS let you overclock.

>>62024387
why not just get a 6400 then?
if I'm remembering right it was also overclockable in the same way, and was a quad core.

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>>62024419
>>62024387
>>62024307
I was coming of an old 775 socket(Q9500). Couldn't get anymore memory(4x2gb DDR2).

So the 6100 in a decent motherboard with 1x16gb DDR4 was a decent jump. At least in power/heat reliability.

Wanted to just wait to upgrade to a more powerful i7/i5. But looks like Coffee Lake isn't compatible and Kaby Lake looks like hot shit apparently.

Just want to hold off, though don't want to wait too long and be stuck buying used 6/7600k.

>>62024247
If you update to the latest BIOS and confirm it has Kaby Lake support, it should work.

>>62020057
>I play gaymes
>and that also at <1080p
>and I dislike the ability to upgrade my CPU without changing my motherboard every 2.5ns

LOL

>>62024554
the used market is utter trash right now and will continue to be until a complete collapse of cryptoshitters. Until then you're pretty much limited to new parts without being gouged.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kYH48d/intel-cpu-cm8066201920506
If this is compatible with your modded bios trick you could use this or a 7700
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7V7CmG/intel-cpu-bx80662i76700.

Or for the entire price of this you could get a b350 board, and a ryzen 1600.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8t3gHN
which has a guaranteed upgrade path for a long time, AM4 will at the very least have zen+ and zen 2 as choices.

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>>62024658
Yeah I just expected to get the life I got out of my old Q9500/775(8 years).

I guess a 6600k/7700k might last as long, just shitty that I can't get the more cores from the new gen to make it last longer.

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>>62024691
6c12t ryzen will last you longer than a quad core, but neither will last you 8 years.
Ignore the /g/ shitposters and shills though, ryzen while good is not the second coming, and kabylake and skylake are also quite good, but not furnaces.
Ryzen simply has better multithreaded performance by quite a bit and if you're not relying completely on single threaded performance it's a no brainer, being cheaper yet better at what it does.

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>>62024739
It's just that I already invested into the z170 board.

So rather than having to buy a new board+CPU, just buy Intel I guess.

Thanks. There's not too many... rational posters in /g/eneral or at least ones taking time to post/respond.

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>>62024874
Or you could sell the parts and use the recouped costs to buy AMD. You already have the RAM which is by far the most price hiked thing you can buy besides SSDs or GPUs. I'm relatively sure it's a sellers market right now. Or buy Intel and save yourself hassle. I don't know what I'd do in your situation but I'll admit I have slight bias upgrading from a quad core sandybridge to AMD this time around, but good luck on your CPU adventures. I like to use old shit for a long time as well, this was my mouse for literally 11 years, and when I replaced it with a steelseries mouse it broke within a year. If I could find this thing for less than 100 dollars I'd get another one in a heartbeat.
>buying gamershit
>any year

>>62025073
>this was my mouse for literally 11 years
Nice! I have a Genius that I have been using since 2004 or 2005, too.

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>>62012875
>>still on 14nm
Wait, what? I thought this was supposed to be the first shot at 10nm, not fucking 14nm+++

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>>62012824
You are a gentleman and a scholar.

>>62025180
I would infer from this that intel is having some serious issues getting their 10nm node together at all. Probably horrible yields or some such issue. They're saying it's a whole new arch, I think? So no more bingbus?????? If this is mesh it'll have the same problems inherent to skylake-x but we'll have to see.

>>62025221
No, Cannon Lake, the first 10nm chip, would have been/is with ringbus, no big changes, basically die-shrink. At best it will have slight improvements like Ivy Bridge from Sandy.

>>62012892
Read this.

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Can you imagine being a retarded 4-corelet and buying a Kaby Lake i5 with mobo, assuming that a 2017 release wouldn't immediately be replaced and obsoleted within the year? Having to shill the pains of buyer's regret away, only to be confronted with this fuckery? It's the most brutal cucking since Jackie Kennedy had to listen to Jack fuck every woman he encountered and say nothing about it.

>>62012640
>literally add moar coars

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>>62025180
>>62025221
And while Intel is still having trouble getting 10nm functional after years of development, Samsung, TSMC, GlobalFoundries, and IBM are all on-track with brand new processes coming out next year. Zen 2 is supposed to jump straight into GloFo's 7nm node.

What's going on over there, Brian? What's your master plan? Things are starting to look a little bit uncomfortable.

uma delicia

>>62025531
They got double cucked, really. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-ryzen-5-1600-1600x-vs-core-i5-7500k-review

>4chan tried to tell me the 7900x was weak and slow as fuck
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Nice try AyyMD but I'm not going to give into your wattage

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>>62025719
>pissmark
Add 15% to any AMD CPU to get it's real performance. It's ridiculously biased.

>>62012640
>2 channel DDR4
lmfao

>>62013552
Add him to the Jewtel watch list.

>>62025738
this is the only benchmark i can find praising ayymd
besides I need to virtualize OSX which is only possible on intel

>>62021765
Why you no breadripper?

>>62025834
>this is the only benchmark i can find praising ayymd
This is an absolute load of shit and you know it. Fucking every review site on the internet is praising Threadripper. Pissmark's bias is well documented.
>besides I need to virtualize OSX which is only possible on intel
Hackintosh is already working on Ryzen so I don't see why virtualization wouldn't be working either.

>>62025565
>pant-shitting intensifies

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>>62025834

>>62012640
>BUY ANOTHER MOTHERBOARD GOY
Sage for being another shill thread

>>62025890
>10.12
what year is this

>>62024036
>The beancounters are running the show.

How did Intel end up like this? Massive R&D for each chip, shitty yields, skimping on solder, Jewing people for new mobos & 5% gains... Meanwhile AMD has infinity fabric, top yields, massive gains (40%!), sweet cheap overclockable mobos with a chipset that will last... Also AMD is wise to Intel's market cockblocking for the 64 days.
I wonder just how bad things could get for Intel?

DESU they look like a company so infested with parasites it needs a bankruptcy to clean them out.

>>62024198
This except my X99 mobo takes forever to boot because of how shittily X99 handles RAM.

>>62025834
No you dumb nigger. Virtualization entirely abstracts your CPU from the virtual machine. The only time the processor matters is if you're running OS X bare metal.

>>62025883
are you gonna tell me this is biased too
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Comparison

>>62024739
Jut buy a 6c 12t Ryzen today and get the best value AM4 chip in a few years time at the end of its cycle.
(Like clever annons grabbing a Q9550 for 775 at the end of it's cycle.)
The Ryzen/AM4 platform is fantastic value. I buy a $250 chip now and a $250 chip in a few years time. Both come with fantastic gains and are affordable.

>>62025988
Only time will tell if Intel can manage to pull its head out of its ass and stop skimping on its products, given the premium they charge.

>>62026092
Do they have to release a new socket to mainsteam octo-core?

>>62026070
Their entire comparison results are based on single and quad core speed. It's useless for comparing HEDT CPUs. Yes, it's shit.

>>62026131
>this is how desperate amd loyaty is
>every benchmark that doesnt say AMD is beautiful is fake and "that doesn't c-count!!!"

>>62026070
>userbenchmark
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>62026214
>It-it's all fake!!!! only accept the marks that say amd is good!!!!!! Don't believe intel lies!

>>62025719
>>62025834
>>62026070
>>62026207
>>62026232
Shit like this is why mods just need to delete threads made by this copypasta spamming fuck on sight.

https://rbt.asia/g/search/text/%22AYYMD%20HOUSEFIRES%22/
https://rbt.asia/g/search/text/%22AYYMDPOORFAGS%22/
https://rbt.asia/g/search/text/%22AYYMD%20IS%20FINISHED%20%26%20BANKRUPT%22/

>>62026214
whats wrong with userbenchmarks

not loyal to amd enough for you?

>>62016511
Just because our colleges are "starting the year" in September due lack of pay, don't necessarily means it is that bad.

>>62026207
>>62026232
>>62026242
Reminder to report shitposters.

>>62026263
>if you dont praise amd in an intel thread then you're a shitposter that needs to be reported
Sorry i made you feel insecure about your AMD purchase man!

>>62026296
Reminder to report shitposters.

>>62026326
wtf i hate intel now!

really makes you think

>>62026242
It's not accurate or representative of actual workloads. That should be reason enough to ignore it.

>>62016168
>3.3Ghz base clock
>14MB L3 cache
>140W TDP

FUCKING KEK

>>62026504
I dont get it whats so "kek"

>>62026530
Skylake-X had a bunch of changes (mesh, cache) that resulted in general performance regressions, mostly stemming from the fact that they're rebadged Purley Xeons.

>>62026569
TL;DR Skylake-X are Xeon abortions

>>62021867
>8 is not more than 6
?

>>62026569
>>62026644
whats wrong with that though if i honestly need that kind of power on my workstation

Is it just that intel got legitimately panic-y at AMD after their recent releases that they rebranded some xeon afterbirth out for the i9 demographic because the 7900x still seems pretty performant out there in the wild despite being a little behind, it's still up in the clouds compared to everything before.

I was able to get a 7900x for free and I've been enjoying it and the performance it gives me and never had a reason to go AMD

>>62012646
AMD did it like 5 years ago


nice I suppose ?

>>62012640
If it wasn't for AMD intelfags would still be under fucking slavery.

>>62026687
>I was able to get a 7900x for free
Good for you. Everyone else who had to spend actual money bought the better product and platform with better performance, more PCIe lanes and less jizz TIM.

>>62026406
b-but it is?
They test everything individually, but that doesn't make it a poorer representation of actual power, if anything it's a more acute means to test hardware, allowing regression testing across generations for feature specific performance, and allows a user to select the optimum components based on their individual scores in comparison to other components rather than just assuming compound scores are the end all be all of benchmarking.

>>62026747
amd has hardware level bugs when under load thanks rasheesh hajab for designing such a processor

>>62026747
I hate intel now you won

>>62026777
http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-Segv-Response
>AMD engineers found the problem to be very complex and characterize it as a performance marginality problem exclusive to certain workloads on Linux.
>AMD was also able to confirm this issue is not present with AMD Epyc or AMD ThreadRipper processors, but isolated to these early Ryzen processors under Linux.

Fuck off.

>>62026797
buying amd now!!!!!!

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>>62013615

>>62024691
Yeah you kind of run the risk of even game programmers waking up to better multicore support eventually since having more than 4 cores is getting really affordable

>>62026754
Regression testing a parochial metric that doesn't equate to real-world workloads is utterly pointless. Do you know of any enterprise that would use a nonsense benchmark like this to make a business purchase decision? If you do then they're probably out of business. I've worked for large IT companies making systems assessments and these sort of suites are absolutely useless exactly because they do not test anything of merit. If you just want to compare e-peens on the basis of numbers then it fits the bill, but for anything serious they're just noise.

>>62024739
AM4 might as well be the second coming to semi-poorfag pc builders since the same boards that support the cheap chips support 1800x and there are probably more chips coming for it down the line unlike socket-a-year etc etc

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>>62012640
>6 cores 12 threads
I've been enjoying this for almost half a year now for only $200, and I could overclock out the box

>>62016481
I always thought the Ryzen boxes looked cool because it's trying to tell you it's the perfect balance of price and performance with that jap circle on it, but the more aggressive intel core boxes of late do jump to the eye faster I'll give it that. Not that it really matters though, people either chuck them out after installation or use them to store stock coolers in.

>>62024107
>He's actually trying to future-proof with Intel boards
Either accept you need to buy a new board every time there's a new core release or don't bother going up a generation when you need to upgrade.

>>62026659
r3 is a four core four thread cpu

>>62027031
How well 1600 non-x versions overclock with stock cooler? I could replace my i5-4590 htpc/living room gaming pc with a ryzen setup.

>>62027645
There's no point replacing a i5-4590.
Ryzen's great, but coming from the i5-4590 all you're getting is more cores.

>>62027645
pretty well, it's a decent cooler and the chip runs pretty cold stock

I'm not buying ANOTHER new motherboard for this. Not gonna fucking do it.

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>>62012640
>dualchannel memory

>>62018189
even bulldozer would have likely been an upgrade and that's saying something

>>62027645
i have it at 3.7Ghz @ 1.275v, I could push it more it only goes up to 75c but I see no reason to.

>>62012640
>6 cores 12 threads
How's this impressive? I'm running 8 core 16 thread ryzen 1700 and it's awesome, having 16 threads.

>>62018189
No since Ryzen is better.
And Zen2 will actually blow it out of the park.

What kind of TIM is it using? Soldered or GTFO here.

>>62027645
generally every cpu is able to hit 3.8 without suicide voltages, and stock cooler is able to handle that, however as other said, you don't get a whole lot of benefit.

When do they come out? I've been waiting years to upgrade from my FX-8320.

>>62027774
Why would you want to upgrade from bulldozer to intel's bulldozer?
Why not skip the garbage processors this time

>>62027786
>8320
>bulldozer

>>62027732
ryzen is better value
we'll have to see about performance. 6c12t would be quite good from intel, but they're still overcharging for it.

>>62012749
They don't even have to solder it (though that would be best) just better paste would work.
The problem is Intel are using the shittiest paste ever, even Unick paste is better.

Am I better off going with this over Ryzen?

>>62016335
lol

>>62027967
for a lesser price (around 270 dollars often) and with a cheaper, but still sufficient platform which will almost assuredly have upgrade paths to choose in the near future you can get an 8 core cpu and motherboard for around 390 dollars. If you go with the 6 core for both it'll be around 300 to 320 dollars. Consider that one of these 6 core 8700k parts will likely cost upwards of 370 dollars, and will also have an expensive platform to buy into, added up will probably be upwards of 500 dollars minimum.

The value is pretty obvious, if you're not dying for single core speed (ryzen has plenty, it's just not killing clockspeed records anytime soon) the multicore performance is top tier, and the value is also great.

>>62027967
no get a 1600/X

>>62027744
Jizz TIM for the rest of eternity.

>>62027967
If you're happy to pay a ~220% premium for ~15% more multicore performance (~2% IPC, the rest is due to frequency - this should clock to ~4.5ghz on all 6 cores pretty nicely, anything more is overvolt 200w+ territory)
and/or
If you need excelling single-thread performance for older application it might be useful too, 4.5ghz OC is for all core, you should be able to get 5ghz+ on single thread turbo, which is excellent.

Then get it instead of Ryzen.
Ryzen is the value king at every price level and the IPC with good ram is close enough that i'd consider it parity - but Intel's chips scale better on clockspeed (and also cost ~220% more)

>>62027967
No. Intel and the "performance king" is a meme. Don't let the LE EPIC SUPER FAST CLOCK SPEED fool you, ryzen can go toe-to-toe with intel without boasting about it, and it's cheaper and actually won't jew you out with new motherboard requirements every year. Intel hasn't been noteworthy since Sandy Bridge. Ryzen is just the beginning of intel's downfall, coffee lake is their damage control response but it's already too late with Raven Ridge and Zen 2 around the corner.

>>62028034
Is it worth getting the 1600 for the included Wraith Cooler?

>>62028143
if you don't give a shit about overclocking it's good. It can actually get you to 3.8 easily on all cores and is a great added value since you're saving an extra 20 or so dollars on top of the price difference between the 1600x and the 1600. (and the 7600k, which is more expensive and also lacks a cooler)

>>62028170
People tend to not factor in coolers and motherboards in CPU costs. When you add in a $30 more expensive mobo for intel, and then you need to get a cooler that isn't garbage, that's another $30, so you're spending an extra $60 on top of the intel tax to get worse performance.

>>62028131
An 8 core barely keeping up with a 4 core below 5.1ghz

>>62025221
Node shrinks and their xbox hueg die don't go together, intels yields on 14nm were shit to begin with, I can't imagine what their yields on 10nm must be like

>>62024307
>friend bought skylake pentium and Z270 board
>planned to install a 6c/12t i7 once it gets released, obvious after ryzen shaking up the market
>intel turns around and makes coffee lake locked to 300 series motherboard
I bet he's fuming right now, he had everything planned out, a nice ITX case from Japan, GPU installed and everything, for when he went back to Russia. Intel cucked him hard and it makes me laugh so much.

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>>62027651
>Ryzen's great, but coming from the i5-4590 all you're getting is more cores.

As I already got 4590 as a living room pc and 4790 as a personal server, I'm kinda thinking about replacing either 4590 with ryzen or replacing both with a single threadripper pc. I currently run a bunch of VMs on 4790 and have run vga-passthrough on both earlier.

I kinda want something new and I'm not interested in intel's lineup. Maybe I'll build a threadripper setup for those pci lanes

name ONE reason why you need a new CPU. i bet it's something retarded.

>>62029732
microstuttering from intel

>>62029736
i bet you macrostutter you fucking nerd

>>62029768
>yes our processors do cause microstutters but you're just a dumb nerd goy so fuck you

>>62029654
HOW CAN SHE BE SO SMUG?

>>62029878
Drinking JUSTnich's tears for breakfast sure helps.

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>>62029878

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>>62027031

>$200
>runs every real world program better
>runs every game faster

>>62016652
>Intel removed the boxarts
Someone's getting fired.

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>>62029996

>>62030277
Hopefully, HOPEFULLY, it's JUSTnich.

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>>62022124

>No one bought an i9 unironically

I actually know a diehard Intel fanboy that bought 2 (yes, two) 7900x and a 7820x.
For home use.
That do nothing more than gaming.

>there are people in this board who consider themselves fans of a chip maker
>there are people on this board who consoder themselves fans of one of the most anti-consumer corporations in the tech industry
https://youtu.be/osSMJRyxG0k

Reminder amd basically invented x64 cpu architecture and multithreading while intel stagnated. Intel fanboys are in for a damn rude awakening.AMD, I don't worry for it, as it has endured intel's unjustified abuse for so long, but damn, intel will fall and I doubt it will get back up

>>62030380
>AdoredShill

OPINION DISREGARDED

My 2500k has lasted me nearly 6 years now. Will the 8700k last just as long?

Also how the shit has it taken 6 years to finally standardise 6 cores?

>>62030376
>7900X
Okay, okay, so maybe he just wanted a space heater, that's fine.
>7820X
WHAT THE FUCK

>>62030277
I'm assuming the 300 series required statement was supposed to be removed since backwards 100 and 200 compatibility was a huge priority for their loyal fanbase and they are surely going to implement it and didn't want a misleading box on their site.

THANK YOU INTEL

>>62023914
is this thanks doctor thing the new uma delicia?

>>62030473
i always thought 6 was a bit of an odd number of cores to have. 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 and so on just feels right

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Is a 7700k still worth it? I feel like we've been stuck on four cores forever.

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>>62012640

>>62030687

yes, only the i7-7820X is superior

>>62030836
>>62030691
Top kek

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>>62023192
>he doesn't know about the intel® turbo boost® 8.0****
>**** 4.5Ghz achievable only on 2 cores

>>62030687
no and it never was

>>62030687
Nothing intel is worth it.

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>>62016168
>>62030376
>>62030691
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>62030435
you should try actually watching his videos
he's pretty far from a shill

Whats with the vaporwave theme

>>62030950

99% of programs only use 2 cores

>>62025565
Please don't take the fab node marketing names seriously. While it is true that Intel's fab advantage seems to be eroding, that doesn't mean that they're a whole node behind.

>>62026694
7 (Phenom II X6 - 2010)

>>62016185
>cow fee

I didn't know Intel had a diversity quota.

>>62030687
Picture ruined my day

>>62028695
>m-muh clocks
Literally all you fags have left to blubber about.

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>>62012646

>>62029996
lol. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-ryzen-5-1600-1600x-vs-core-i5-7500k-review

>>62030546
7820X is actually decent price/performance. But if all he's doing with it is muh gaymes, both are a waste of time. Intel fanboys are dumber than shit.

>>62024009

>>62031114
>8 cores? what do you need 6 cores for? 4 cores should be enough for anyone! help, this man is trying to kill me over 2 cores!

>>62031114
t. intel

>>62031968
Dual cores are overkill kek

>>62031911
delid dis, you stupid goy

>>62031901
Thanks, doc.

>>62030473
Thank AMD for bringing 6-cores to the mainstream and making Intel start doing shit again.

>>62032288
Intel is doing stupid shit now. Overpriced 6 core jizz tim housefires, Ryzen wins.

>>62031949
Skylake X is a complete disaster because of the dumb mesh shit.

>>62033216
It's less mesh and more cache.
Larger L2 is useless since anything consumer was optimised for 256KB L2 (it was this way from fucking Nehalem).

>>62030435
Still true though.

>>62020057
SOPA DE MACACO

>>62012640
>>62012646
>Designer: "What design do you want?"
>Intel: "Just fuck this whole series up."

>>62015890
Where to cop the "Réduction -50€" ?

>>62030608
/v/ee meme
the box is green and purple

>>62021042
The i7 is being replaced with an i3

Should I buy this over Ryzen for gaymin?

>>62034540
On paper, yes. But we don't know anything about temps and stuff. Also you can buy a ryzen right now, while this is not even out.

>>62034625
I'll be saving for 2 months for the build I'm aiming for right now.

>>62013411
They might not even need to go that far. My 170z didn't work with my 7700k until I upgraded the bios with my Skylake part.

>>62012646
This. Feels fucking great I waited this long with an upgrade. Time for a new i5 to replace my first gen i7. Sweet-ass single thread perf here I come!

>>62012749
desu its kinda sad AMD gets this hot with solder. not defending Intel, not soldering is fucking bs. but yeah, AMD HAD TO solder, it would fucking fry with paste.

>>62036151
>first gen i7
You could move up to a potato chip and it'd be an upgrade over that shit.

>>62036171
Where'd you get that time machine? Why did you travel here from 2011 just to post this?

>>62036194
Nah, I mean...

- You have an application that's threaded. Battlefield 1 for example. Even an i3 will run it, thus my i7 runs it perfectly fine.
- You have a shit application that runs on one thread (any Korean MMO). Only the 7700K would run it on mediocre speeds, but it will never run fine.

I mean, this is why I am not getting Ryzen. It's got really mediocre single thread perf. Multi thread performance is a meme, I got memed into the i7 years ago, and Core2Quad back before. Guess what? Parallelization - the one they touted - never came.

>>62036239
>It's got really mediocre single thread perf.
It's at most 20-25% slower in real world workloads compared to Intel's absolute best (i7-7700K).

And it goes without saying any heavily parralizeable task or doing multiple tasks at once, the i7-7700K gets flattened like a pancake.

Coffee Lake might be a better trade-off, but it's not out yet and we don't know the final performance numbers, temps, OCability, or prices.

>>62036239
I hope you are happy with your shill paycheck.
The only reason single core ipc is that important is because Intel forced everyone to stay on 2/4 cores. Now that the world is free from their bullshit things will change. Possibly in 2-3 years your precious quad core i7 will struggle with everything, not just most tasks like now.

>>62036283
> 20-25% lower
Yeah, but we are talking about gaymes. And in shit gaymes, that means 60 fps instead of 40.
I mean render? Compilation? You use servers and bots for that. But hey, let's cut out use case and just concentrate on performance.

> any heavily parralizeable task
Again, render, compilation. All tasks for renderbots and shit. That market is servers. (Epyc)

> Coffee Lake might be a better trade-off
It's been already stated they will lower max clock and use high turbo. No company can defy physics.

>>62036344
You seriously think no one does anything productive on their pcs? It's all server stuff? So why do even have anything better than a single core Pentium? I hope you are not that stupid.
>20% is somehow 33%
Okay.

>>62036337
Nigga, Intel was the fucking NUMBER ONE that pushed this dual/quad core bullshit. Then Hyper-Threading. And I am not saying that's a good thing, it's fucking cancerous.
> Core2 time
>> oh nigga buy a Core2Quad because threading is the shit, threads up your ass, threads are everything
> buy CPU
> of course nothing is parallel on market
> gotta use ffmpeg fork, everything is slow, nothing is parallel, games run like dogshit
> time passes
> nothing

> Core times
>> oh boy, it';s right around the fucking corner, MUST BUY i7!!!111
> get i7
> literally everything runs like shit, have to disable HT, no OC at all
> wait years
> it's the year 2017
> there is still nothing fucking parallel, even browsers still do work on one single thread
> it's time for a new CPU
I will buy some massively parallel for my grandkids. Fool me once... (Actually I did get fooled twice, fuck me.)

Friend also had the same problem, he bought an X6. It's absolute dogshite.

>>62036398
> anything productive
I did work at bigger firms too, I cannot think anything that requires a massively parallel CPU.
But I am all ears.
> render
Renderfarm.
> compile
Buildbots.
> 3D
Quadro/FirePro.
> Video making
Even if you have a RED camera and shoot in 8K, you just need a 1080TI.

>>62036344
>And in shit gaymes, that means 60 fps instead of 40.
ARMA 3 is the only one I can even think of that reaches that level of shit. Runner-up PUBG but that's been getting a lot of patches lately.

>>62036449
When we're talking about personal renderbox/compilebox, the kind that consumer CPUs are aimed at, Ryzen does pretty well. Threadrippers are selling far better than i9's. Not everyone has their business's render farm on 24/7 access.

>>62036449
>intel was the first
Lol! LOOOOL!
And Intel was fine with 4 cores because it was easy for them to manufacture. Why do you think their server chips have so low specs and high price?
I won't even comment on everything in your post, you are just dumb.

>>62036458
PUBG, ARMA, or any survivor shit. Korean MMOs. Any F2p game. But that's games. On desktop it's literally 99% of what you use daily. The only time I meet parallelism is when I open my 7-zip once every 6 months to compress folders when I reinstall my PC or something.

>>62036487
But you don't put an i9 in a buildbot or renderfarm, that would be retarded. That's Xeon, Epyc. The i9 is just as retarded as the Threadripper. I mean, if you MUST build this special unicorn machine, then yes, buy a Threadripper. Though, in my country, the i9 7900X became the NUMBER ONE top seller. I am also shocked, I don't know which retard would buy one...

>>62036564
> And Intel was fine with 4 cores
Son, what is Xeon. Now they will push 6-8 cores, but with lower speeds and serious turbo. I.e.: There will be no magical improvement anywhere.

>>62036449
Biggest, most retarded post in this thread. Congrats.

>>62036589
Straming is also much better on the CPU, and people need VM so intel is complete trash with their four cores.

>>62036589
>what is xeon
didn't I mention server cpus? Do you have an actual mental disability? Intel deliberately put out 4 core i7s for years because they didn't have to compete, it was the easiest to manufacture for them and they had the power to hold back software development to cater to single core ipc. Why do you think they are so scared that AMD can now lego up 32 core server cpus for dirt cheap that they won't be able to do in the next ten years?

Why are there so many people here brand loyal an what not? Shit this companies dont even know you exist and they dont care.

>>62036786
What is brand loyalty in discussing products?

>>62036924
People gett8ng pissed for no reason because other buy certain brand and not their.

>>62037050
Nah, no one cares what do you waste your money on. Just don't really stupid things on the internet. Someone may believe them.

>>62036239
>good applications are threaded
>therefore having more threads is bad
???

>>62025921
Early 2008?

>>62015890
>asrock

>>62036337
>Now that the world is free from their bullshit things will change
this is a shit argument

There are thousands of old (and current) programs that only use 1/2 cores, they will never ever use more cores. Every single program/application/game engine that has "shit" coding/programming benefits more from a super fast single/dual core speed. These applications aren't that uncommon

Yes, you could make an arguments like
>they should learn how to optimize better!
>they need to get better at programming!
etc

But that's not gonna help the current situation, you as a user will have to hope (and wait) that they will go back and fix/patch their applications

IPC is always important, that old Intel will always perform well when it comes to such applications (also things like emulators)

Of course most people should get a Ryzen these days because they have such good bang for your buck, but I think you're underrating Intel single & dual cores