Find a valid flaw that isn't the same old recycled proprietary

they ban anime porn because "ambiguous age"

>>62003742
American based, so NSA backdoored

Horrible GUI. Slow as shit.

reminder

https://puu
.sh/xa1Zb/64de0cedfb.webm

>>62003742
Calls are somehow worse than skype
No way to tell what data a bot collects (and they have access to a lot)
Generally buggy
On debian forks it installs two copies of itself, one is non-functional but cant be removed easily. Also prone to crashes on linux
Targeted at normies

>>62003757
who knows how old those pixels are

>>62003742
they want money just so i can use my own image emoji thingies on other servers

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>>62003742
Find a valid flaw that isn't the same old recycled genocide excuses, I'll wait

Starting to become a big resource hog. Video chat in particular is beyond bad.

>>62004052
Was too hands on due to a lack of trust in his generals
Wasted some resources
Didnt take over russia BEFORE trying to fight the rest of europe, even if he didnt instigate that war on purpose he knew taking back ethnically german lands was going to likely start one, and in a germany vs ussr scenario he could have gotten the allied powers on his side since they also fucking hated the USSR.

>>62003742
>botnet dataminer
How is this not a valid reason?

>>62003742
How the fuck is botnet a excuse?

>>62003742
The voice keeps fucking disconnecting so me or my friends have to reconnect to the call

>>62004052
he didn't genocide the kikes, unfortunately that was a lie by them to get empathy so that they can invade Palestine.

>>62003742
>ramhog
>mediocre GUI
>crashes
>meme-spouting
>"stop posting lewd anime images!!!"
>"stop hate speech!!!"

I actually wouldn't mind it too much if everyone in the world wasn't using it just because it presents itself a bit better than irc or ventrilo; it's pretty fucking annoying when my more normalfag friends make me use it when I play games with them. Fuck Discord.

>>62003742
Not Rocket.Chat

Danbooru's loopholes were wontfix for years, but they finally got closed when some programming socks faggot saw Discord previewing a censored post and decided to file a bug over it.

Fuck Discord and its users.

>>62004310
>ramhog
using 150MB on my system. Sum of the three processes
>mediocre GUI
subjective
>crashes
works on my machine
>meme-spouting
true
>"stop posting lewd anime images!!!"
you now have to click "i am 18" button
>"stop hate speech!!!
A valid complaint but id still rather preserve the freedom of a company to refuse service to groups since i dont think they should be entitled to it nor the company obligated.

>>62003742
Can't export chat history

Gaymer boot up messages

>>62003742
*blocks you for thinking the wrong thing*

>>62003742
It's still impossible to link voice channels together like in literally every other decent voip software.
When someone lags for a bit it tries to fix it by stretching out the voice sample and it ends up worse and harder to understand than if it just played nothing for 20ms or whatever the length of the voice packet is. Which also happens to be what every other decent voip software does.
Permissions are laughably bad compared to Mumble ACLs.

It's a decent text chat client.
It's a horrible voice chat client.

>>62004310
IRC itself is fine and remains a classic example of a good, well designed standard. There's no reason someone can't make an IRC client with modern features like inline media, and the protocol could easily be extended without needless cruft. Most chat clients are garbage because they're designed to be a brand, not a tool. Everything is reinvented for no good reason and design is mangled into an unholy mess by committees, even open standards like XMPP, which only exists at this point so we can beat people over the head with it when they say XML isn't horrible.
The Discord devs aren't stupid, they knew to build their server infrastructure on Ericcson's magical no-crashing autism language. The client is shit for reasons they deliberately chose. It was built on Electron, the spawn of Satan, just to give it a gaudy (sorry, "polished") user interface. As a result it's so ludicrously overengineered that they can't get WebM to play inline... in a web browser.
It's a classic case of the Cathedral and the Bazaar.

>>62003742
> Find a valid flaw

They don't monetize it correctly, and never will be.
This means they are bleeding money and will bleed money until the day their investors give up, then the service will end and the entire user base will have no where to go because there's no competing service (for obvious reasons).

The great flaw is that it will die within couple of years, unless Amazon or some other large company with big resources offers to front them the bandwidth and dev costs forever with little to no return.

>>62003742
They don't allow underage porn sharing.

>>62004493
You can write a script for that easily

>>62003742
>Can't preview voice to set volume / check quality
>Automatically set to AGC so shitty mics will pick up everything if VAD is on
>Clunky UI

>>62004854
If you already have programming knowledge. Still a flaw

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so what exactly is this?

>>62004975
Buttnut

>>62003742
>find a valid flaw except for the valid flaws it has

>>62003757
>>62004852
Wait what? I've been posting 2D lolis since forever there and never heard of this

The blocking feature
Inability to delete account

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>>62004975
they had that shit here before

>>62005597
>2D
>not real girls
Pleb

>centralized
>proprietary
>uses electron
>went full virtue signaling

normie shit

sage

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>>62004975
How do I convince normie friends to walk away? I crave the pitiful human contact with the few friends I have left.

>>62003742
Centralized shit that could be closed/become paid at any moment and likely is selling all data is can get

>>62005694
> WHY WON'T THIS PRIVATE CORPORATION LET ME HATE ON NIGGERS ON THEIR SERVICE MUH FREE SPEECH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Americans everyone

Hates free speech and is American

>>62005853
>American

You mean chinese funded?

Why is free speech such a hard concept to grasp for americans?

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>>62005898
I meant American as in made in America

It's better than skype which is what everyone used before.

If you guys hate it so much, make something better that is as user friendly. Problem fucking solved.

>>62005935
Doesn't change the fact they are funded by Chinese investors making a trojan voip program introducing spyware

Just like how Kaspersky is Russian controlled software injecting malware in American (and more) computers.
https://www.cyberscoop.com

>>62006063
I messed up my link

https://www.cyberscoop.com/fbi-kaspersky-private-sector-briefings-yarovaya-laws/

>>62003742
if you're fine with text chat only and want to be anon, check out hashtags.chat

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>>62003742
>tfw matrix is still shit
>tfw matrix will always be shit

>>62004274
Wrong.

>>62004852
so does 99% of the internet. Go hide in the darknet where you belong

>>62005838
>yes, yes goy we are very inclusive please use our botnet
It was a pathetic publicity stunt and looks like it actually worked.

>>62003742
It's a fucking webbrowser.

>>62006319
Edgy. LGBTP should be legal and uncensured, and probably will be.

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>find a flaw
>inb4 its biggest flaws
that's not fair OP

>>62003757
Furthermore, KYS is a bannable offense. Even sarcastically. They don't seem to be actively enforcing any of this though, thankfully.

>>62006578
And?
It works smoother, uses less ram and looks better than Skype.
It has more functionality than any IRC client.

And... it is actually used by people.

>>62004975
>LISTENING

>>62003742
>SJWs
>commies
>muh HATE SPEECH when they're known to host share-blue,antifa,BLM

>>62006902
>It works smoother, uses less ram and looks better than Skype.
And?
>It has more functionality than any IRC client.
And?

>And... it is actually used by people.
And?

>>62004098
>Didnt take over russia BEFORE trying to fight the rest of europe, even if he didnt instigate that war on purpose he knew taking back ethnically german lands was going to likely start one, and in a germany vs ussr scenario he could have gotten the allied powers on his side since they also fucking hated the USSR.

Read the Icebreaker by Suvorov.

>>62003742
Calls and client lags more than fucking Skype..
S K Y P E
K
Y
P
E

>>62003742
Shit logging. Unless you have a bot that logs chat history to a text file it's nearly impossible to find a specific moment. If the client supported native logging I'd use it more.

>>62004274
That started with the Balfour declaration in 1917 which handed Palestinian sovereignty to Jewish settlers and handed no political rights over to the natives. Know your history, dammit.

>>62003742
It requires an email.

>>62003820
Why can't you just show it here?

>>62003742
They blocked all the alt-right chat rooms...

FUCK ASSCORD!

>>62003742
>botnet dataminer
How else do you think they're still alive? They're going to just live off the initial investments until the end of days? Lol

>>62003742
>Webapp shit
>Forces you to give them your phone number if anything at all happens to your account
>Worst support team on the face of the planet
>UI insists on taking up your entire screen
>They gave it a HUGE set of new dependencies a few weeks ago and didn't tell anyone because "lol Ubuntu users already have this installed" which kept half my friends offline for a week
Discord is literally the biggest piece of shit on the planet, and this is coming from someone who uses it.

>>62009372
Why not just change your chatroom names to buttlovers or something instead of direct names where someone undoubtly report it?

They ban you for (((hate speech)))

>>62003757
pedophile spotted

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They have no security.

<---
loli is banned

>>62003820
Who is this talking? Why didn't you just link to the youtube video or whatever?

>>62003858
>calls worse than Skype
stopped reading right there. You ever even use Skype?

>>62003742
Its so hard to delete ur account.

u need to request it to the support and wait like 2 weeks until they remove it.

Also electron.

>>62006063
>>62006063
>tries to counter argument
>drops spaghetti

>>62004442
>using 150MB on my system. Sum of the three processes
This is a massive amount for VOIP software.

And fuck you, you can't just inb4 valid arguments, they literally have access to every single thing you send through their service. I'm not giving up that amount of privacy just so I can see some 13 year old spam unfunny images at me.

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>Is everyone too fucking retarded to fucking run an .exe and install teamspeak? (The far superior VoIP client)

I blame the surge of retarded gamer YouTube channels and teenage faggots demanding pc gaming rigs from their pushover parents.

There's only one client for desktop and mobile, with the latter being buggy shit
There's no self hosting
They remove features and put them behind paywalls
They prioritize shit like emojis and facebook reactions instead of support for webm/mp4 or audio files
The client lacks features like highlighting and logging that were standard in IRC clients for decades
Search and tab complete are complete garbage

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>>62003742

>>62005838
It's a text message/voip service they shouldn't fucking care as long as its within legal boundaries of their server locations (US mostly). How did they know what messages were hateful? They either had people on psyop duty to sniff out the nazis or were botnetting everyone and found this gem with minimal searching. I'm guessing its number two you dipshit.

>>62010371
It's about to be a video service too. It won't remain ad-less for long after.

>>62003742
Why should I use this over IRC or Wire?

>>62010519
epic emotes!

>>62003742
>chrome

>>62010527
Wire has those.

Banning alt right channels

Fine with alt left/blm channels screaming kill white people

Wonder who could be behind this hmmmm

>>62010909
>Fine with alt left/blm channels screaming kill white people

Prove it.

>>62011037
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2017/8/14/16145858/discord-alt-right-server-statement

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>>62003858
That's why you build your own? Fucking pleb.
I made three for my discord users, one for their fucking memes, 1 for their fucking music and 1 random that assist me with some commands.

>>62011166
How about you tell me why I should use it over Wire or IRC?

>>62004310
1.8% CPU usage and 104.5MB, what's your excuses as a ramhog?

Are you poor and running 512mb of ram on a 40GB mechanical disk with a Pentium 4?

Or am I in the future?

>>62011174
We still need IRC but Discord is better for the normies. Less complicated for their mind.

>>62003742
Electron

>>62011253
What's wrong with electron?

>>62011166
This. It takes like 10 minutes to look up a tutorial and set up a bot.

>>62011230
>We still need IRC but Discord is better for the normies. Less complicated for their mind.
I wish we could get an improved IRC. Something that doesn't give your IP away by default, has encryption by default and more reasonable commands for the user.

It's hard to get somebody to use IRC when they first need to read a 15 minute guide on how to set it up so it doesn't broadcast their IP to everybody.

Don't respect my wishes to shitpost.

If I could host a discord like server somewhere for cheap it'd be nice.

>>62011291
Thanks and yes. I wish I could go back in years to IRC when friends didn't mind the hassle.

IRC needs some love.

>>62011259
Lazy fucks who can't even be arsed to learn Python want to make software, so instead of having a compiled solution that runs fast and takes advantage of the host OS' native abilities like any normal developer, they go the "JavaOS" route and piggyback off of chromium's source in order to use their fucky framework (last I heard the discord fucks use elixir/phoenix or some other meme shit framework). Problem is, chromium is bloaty web-dev tripe, like any other browser, and most of these meme languages interpret, not compile, so you're running 2 "VM's". Running a VM is always a slow, ram-intensive, ineffective experience, which should only be used to test data and script bullshit, not make software.

tl;dr: When you run discord, you're running a gimped web browser; the equivalent of playing a shitty PC port of a console game, or emulating macOS through a windows 10 emulation on a Dual Core A8

>>62003742
I don't accept the terms of service.

>>62003742
>Javascript API (Electron) on the desktop
Literally the worst possible cancer.
Enjoy your extra Chrome tab open while gaming and enjoy those fps drops ;)

>>62011562
Someone's on edge.
Linux users perhaps?

>>62003742
It lags on my c2d

>>62011291
>Something that doesn't give your IP away by default,
Almost every modern IRCd masks hostnames by default, and if not it's just one line in the config to enable it.

>>62003742
>tell me why thing is bad, but you have to do it without using any of the reasons why it's bad
>oh, can't do it? guess i win again heh!
And people actually took this bait. That's what's truly amazing.

>>62012109
Learn to English? OP never defended Discord.

>>62012131
Nah, I read it just fine. It's just really old bait, and I'm baffled as to why anyone bit on it.

cant selfhost

>>62012188
The only downside to Discord

>>62007487
thank you for correcting me fellow Goy.

>find valid flaw but remember not to mention valid flaws XD
truly epic meme bro!!!

>>62003742
If you ignore the facts that the program
* is proprietary
* is a botnet
* data mines you
it is a decent piece of software.

Why you would choose to ignore this though... I don't know.

>>62003742
not encrypted
bans whatever content they don't like

>>62012484
Does the job on the machine that I'm using.

Why nobody here uses multiple OS and machines for their everyday life?
If I want to get sketchy I'd go with IRC on my other network using my other machines in the basement.
>>62012507
proof? (the bans) because my Discord is pretty filthy, using slurs all over the place and is highly racist.

>>62012527
>proof? (the bans)
literally type discord bans in your favorite search engine

(why can't you /v/ kids just follow news like adult people?)

>>62012560
Why should I follow news?
Please enlightened me.

>>62012639
im wondering like you
>>62012560
why? i'm 26 and I don't give a fuck about your news outlet lmao it's just depressing id rather have a blast on 4chin

>>62003742
Proprietary botnet. Mines user data.

>>62004746
IRC just isn't made for mobile usage, it really sucks for that, and the only decent android app for it went out of development two years ago and it flat out doesn't work on iOS. Mobile usability is huge for a lot of people

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>>62003742
"I can't refute that its a botnet, so I'll just say the argument is too old to convince me!"

really activates the almonds OP, you're a thinker

>>62012639
So that I don't have to waste time pointing out basic well known facts.

And when I say follow the news I don't mean watch CNN, but subscribe to some decent RSS feeds. It will take a few minutes of your day to keep up and not look ignorant in conversations with people.

>>62012652
>id rather have a blast on 4chin
It was all over /g/ as well.

>>62003742
>Somehow get millions invested, no revenue stream except a turbo plan that 1 percent off all user will buy.


Matrix.org

>>62003791
time to upgrade your computer anon.

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>>62003742
>Dude, get on cam

>>62009498
they have algorithms to find innaproprieted servers i think. They have all the messages, not only severs names

>>62013206
If you trust their official statements, they say they only take action when it is brought to their attention via user reports through their support email

>>62012784
Do you have some example of reliable RRS feeds? I might have interest to broaden my knowledge if you're willing to give me some hotshot tips that aren't bullshit news.

>>62003742
Overrides every single shortcut I use in my browser for its own bullshit. Fuck websites that do this

>>62003742
Why do you feel the need to talk to people in a non text based format? This is good enough.

>>62003742
Terms of Service claim that they own any IP passed through their servers, which is unenforceable in court but also a massive overreach.

>>62012764
>non-square bingo

its popular

>>62012560
I just found a White Supremacy server that got ban. What else? That server got snitched. End of story, they ended the channel to make them look good.

>>62013492
W-what? How does that even work? Lmao, it's not like the ISPs would agree to that.

>>62013537
Like I said, unenforceable. But they shouldn't even have it in there.

>>62009372
Not true.
They blocked a few, but there are dozens of them still there.
If you don't want your server deleted you should have a nice server name, give invite permissions to admins only and consider vetting people carefully.

>>62013557
Yeah, that's kind of messed up.
>>62013646
+1 just don't invite random people and get some against you then get reported lol common sense

It's spyware

>>62013139
teamspeak works just fine.
even while they claim "ITS FASTER!!!"
liars.

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>>62012764
>foobar2000
>botnet

come on, this is straight fucking paranoia.

>>62011291
Matrix seems pretty good, but is still very early tech.

>>62014155
>software is free
>no monetization
>but it's proprietary
>expecting it not to be botnet
How naive are you? I bet you use uTorrent.

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Data Usage.
I live in a shithole and can only get mobile wifi and discord just being open chews 3/4s of my bandwidth, rendering it pretty much unusable.

>>62011291
>install irc client
>type /nick faggot
>type /server irc.freenode.net
>type /join #linux
So hard.

>>62012762
It's not ideal, but it works, which is all that matters, considering that can be said for most mobile things. I keep irssi running in tmux and connect from my phone with connectbot irssi. I don't have auto correct or anything, but it works in a pinch if I want to read some chats on the toilet.

>he doesn't use mumble

>ban whatever they feel like
>throttle VPN connections

>>62005757
Honestly, consider making some new friends. Shame the old ones for using Discord. Present alternatives. Present help for moving to them. Give them the info they need and then some. Resist using their shitty choices. Use IRC, Mumble, Wire, Matrix. Whatever it takes. Stay off Discord. You can either fine like-minded individuals or try to convert your friends. Maybe if you have a fun IRC channel with some new friends, you can talk about it to the old ones sometimes and they'll want to come check it out.

>>62014308
this... they will never be a true successor to IRC if some faggots can just ban things when their fat woman ally gets run over with a car.

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>>62003742
>Find a flaw
>Except for these flaws, don't find these in particular

>>62003742
>find a valid flaw
>except for this obvious, gaping flaw

How do I find comfy IRC servers?

>>62014698
#studygroup @ irc.rizon.net

>>62006847
Who? Moderators of a server you got kicked off or Discord's staff?

>>62014679
t. /r/le_donald user mad that his fascist buttbuddies got banned for spreading hate and inciting violence

>>62003820
Who is this? Cr1tiKaL? The deep voice YouTube gamer man who won't shut up about politics now?

I like it because it got my normie gaymer friends off skype. It's still a piece of shit, though.

>>62014400
t. guy with "online friends" only

>>62003742
Not open source.

>>62014665
He turns into a KKK Grand Wizard.

>>62003742
>its flawless apart from being proprietary, no respect for privacy and datamining
kek

>>62003820
I didn't even know Mumble was open source, thanks.

Botnet, centralized, perpetuates censorship, oh and botnet

>>62012764
>systemd
>botnet
Complain about systemd as much as you want, but it is still free, open source software. If there was a botnet in it, why don't you remove it?

>>62003820
>jazz in the background
I'd rather let them have and sell my information than listen to jazz

>not using open-source mumble

what did you do with my /g/?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>62005599
You can delete your account but you need to contact the support

>>62014400
no friends - no problems

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>>62003742
The fact that it is proprietary is valid. You can't self host it either, so you are using someone else's server to communicate. It's obvious your conversation isn't private on discord. I use mumble it's free software, self hostable, can be themed, uses encryption and has superior audio quality. Seriously why don't more people use mumble?

>>62015243
I have both IRL and online friends. I have less IRL friends than I used to.

>>62003742
you can't delete your account, they keep chat logs and PM logs forever

>>62018960
Because mumble is just voice.

Really at the end of the day what people want is a single application to handle communication while gaming, not have 3-4 different programs open when 1 of them is decent at all the things(image sharing, voice, chat, etc)

Then you have the more tech issue of things where auth is done over certs and not the normal user/pass with 2fa. Your hard drive crashed? Well time to bug the admin to revoke your old cert and create a new one. Then there are some people that just don't want to(or can't) self host a VoIP service.

>>62019066

You have never worked in IT have you?

>>62019083
what are you trying to say here?

IRC is literally the because fucking botnet ever. Everyone is logging conversations 24/7/365 openly and your IP/Hostname is fucking broadcasted to the world unless you go out of your way to hide it.

The large servers that everyone uses, like freenode are spammed and attacked constantly. Net-splits, outages, and staff that are slow to respond.

>Hurr Durr it just werks guys

Horse and buggy works as well, does not mean I should use it over a car.

>>62019070
mumble is not just voice

>>62003742
It has a shit load of connection issues all the fucking time, servers are shit.

>>62004854
you shouldn't have to. there is zero reason for a chat service not to let you save logs.

>>62019115
idiot poster

>>62003858
This ^

>>62019070
Valid points, but I personally prefer a program that is good at one or two things and doesn't try to be much more.

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while we're talking about logging, has anyone ever poked around in skype's log system? it's of nuts how overdesigned it is

it's an sqlite database that stores every single message as a complicated db entry rather than just writing a line of text

my logs from a couple years of usage is almost 400 MB

>>62003772
Literally anything that runs in windows falls into this category