Holy fuck that 8 TB drive is dirt cheap AGAIN, $160 for 8 TB

>>61980859
Anime is shit.

WHY CAN'T I BUY THIS OUTSIDE OF THE US

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61981018
Kys.

>>61981035
I wish.

>>61980859
And I was about to ask /g/ about this. Does anyone know if the 8TB drive can be swapped with another drive, specifically seagate? If it's possible, I'd like to shuck this drive and then use the interface as a sata to usb adapter.

>>61980859
As an Ausfag I'm insanely jealous.

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>Geek Squad is still in business

>>61980859
Sho sho paid shill

Is it the worthless WD reds again

>>61981073
Why wouldn't you be able to? As long as it's the same size, which I assume is 3.5".

>tfw you bought five of the 4tb versions a few years ago for $100 each
now that's a spicy rigatoni

>>61981018
Refugees are allowed to illegally jump the border into Canada without much consequence, you might as well return the favor. Just beware of the CBP drone at 30k feet if they happen to have one doing duty up north instead of down south.

>>61981113
Well, I dunno if the interface is designed with WD pcbs explicitly in mind, and thus won't work with a seagate. Firmware on the interface might explicitly expect a WD hook or call or something.

I think there is a good reason why these things are on sale.


rememeber that anything above 2 TB in a HDD is unstable.

my theory is that most of the memory it touts is actually due to a compression algorithm directly on the hard drives.

if you fill this thing up the data will get corrupted.

if you get this then expect to get a back up drive for it.

>limit: 2
Trash

>>61981174
It's cheap because the flood waters finally receded in Thailand after 5 years

>>61980859
>WD
garbage, no wonder seagate doesn't even think about WD anymore my shitty 5 year old barracudas are probably faster than this thing if you took it apart and ran it in sata 3

>>61981138
I'm European.

>>61981159
It probably has a SATA power+data adapter inside the unit that connects to the HDD as any other would. I'm 99% sure of it.

>refurbished drives
Lmao

How good are the WD Reds in that thing? I tend to hear that high capacity HDD's are prone to failure, and I don't mind shelling out money for server-grade HDDs if I ever feel like making a backup.

>>61981213
For instance, the MY BOOK drives actually have structures in place to prevent other drives from being used, and you have to rip out two pins to make it work.

See here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9785ysBA_0

>>61981270
Oh, sorry then. I didn't know that was actually a thing.

>>61980859

I bought one of these. Backed up about 5TB of data and write speeds were about ~160MB/sec

>>61981270

This is not a MyBook.

>>61981213
>I'm European.
im so sorry for your loss

>>61981336
>MyBook
Thus why I'm asking, if it was a my book I'd already know the answer.

>no warranty
ROFL

>>61981543
>what are credit cards
>what is Magnusson-Moss

>>61981174
>my theory is that most of the memory it touts is actually due to a compression algorithm directly on the hard drives.
>if you fill this thing up the data will get corrupted.
Do you have a source to back your claims?

>>61980859
Fuck off shill

>>61981089
>>61981095
>>61981203
>>61982238
>t. Seagate internet defense force

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>WD Reds

lmao there's a reason why it's being used in these cheap external enclosures.

>>61981174
WD drives are PMR drives.

You're thinking of shitty seagate SMR (Shingled magnetic recording ) drives.

>>61980859
It it one of those "helium" drives that fail after some years?

>>61982577
just dumb really dumb.

these are WD Red NAS 256MB

>>61982464
>WD fags
WD is literally even more behind seagate than AMD is behind nvidia, there is no defending incompetence at that level

>>61981086
I used to work at best buy. Geek squad and accessories is where the store makes profit (name brand products are sold for no profit since they price match with Amazon and Wal-Mart), so sales associates are told to relentlessly shill geeksquad services when selling products.

>>61984376
I always had issues with wd had +10 wd disks fucked but till now Seagate Toshiba and Samsung running fine.
Had a raid 0 with Seagate barracuda even upon sector fail stayed strong for 5 years.

>>61980859
Wouldn't it be better to buy 4x2 TB hard drives for stability than 1 8TB hard drive?

>>61984430
WD is laughable shit, its why no OEM will touch them

>>61982627
>seagate
>shitty

well lets run down the list

seagate is
>faster
>more reliable
>quiter (then blacks)
>higher capacity
>better price to performance
>cheaper
>more valuable as a company (seagate is worth 80 billion WD is worth 25 billion)
>more profitable as a company
>more OEM contracts
just face it the reason WD is buying sandisk and HGST is so they can avoid bankruptcy

>>61984997
wait, wasn't western digital the top dog in everything and seagate the ones that broke after 2 days?

what happened.

I have a 250gb western digital blue 7200rpm that use as my primary drive since 2009 and it still works flawlessly.

>>61985025
>wasn't western digital the top dog
no, they never were and probably never will be

>>61985025
Seagates are the most failure prone piles of shit you can buy, ignore the shill and look up failure rates yourself.

>>61983858
And?

WD Reds are bad drives.

>>61983758
Helium drives fail after some years? Source or get the fuck out. The helium in hard drives won't run out after you become old.

>>61984997
Seagate offers better warranty but they're not that quiet. I hate that annoying click noise it makes once in a while.

>>61981018
Because you have medical coverage

>>61985340
You're the first person I've ever seen say that. Seriously.

I don't think you're right about this one.

>>61985382
Sorry to clarify, you're the first person I've seen saying that WD Red are bad drives.

>>61985340
>>WD Reds are bad drives.

Except these are actually HGST Ultrastar He8 drives, just rebranded for WD with their firmware.

>>61985340
>WD Reds are bad drives.

nah

I've bought tens of reds myself, not a single problem since like 2012, not a single failure since

Of course they're not samsungs, which I had running on one server for ten years straight and then moved to a test bench and is running still to this day, but quite good nonetheless

bring this deal to yurup and I'll buy a set of those for my homelab, I only have 12TB currently available

>>61985396
Don't trust /g/. There seems to be Segate shills here. I don't see how you could otherwise recommend a company that released a drive so bad they got a class action lawsuit for failure rates. Also that would find SMR performance acceptable to even release to market. There's a reason why Hitachi dropped the tech.

Missed out on this the first time, nabbed two this time. Was considering 3 for raid 5 but this will keep me for now, I think. Won't even be mad if they aren't Reds.

>>61981192
?

>>61981018
agree, we need such deals in EU, too

>>61980859
Does stripping the drive out void the warranty? Why are these going for so cheap?
I'm planning on buying 5 8tb wd reds, and these are $120 cheaper than just the bare drives. There has to be a catch.

>>61985680
>Does stripping the drive out void the warranty?
yes, that's why you put it back in when you send it in for a replacement if it shits the bed
>Why are these going for so cheap?
WD Red is a really shit model, no warranty and they're refurbished drives.

Buy Ironwolf or N300.

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>>61985715
People have successfully sent in the drive alone and gotten a full enclosure back. YMMV.

>WD Red is a really shit model

See >>61985399

>>61985746
No dude, these aren't the same as He8 Ultrastar drives. Different firmware, different components. The only thing similar is the build and the circuit board which means nothing.

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>>61985761
Only thing different is the firmware. Please source otherwise. They run the same.

>>61985791
Not that guy but maybe they're hgst rejects?

>>61985715
>WD Red is a really shit model, no warranty and they're refurbished drives.

what?

>>61985746
That picture is a year old and from a different drive model. A quick google shows that this one has Reds.

lmao have fun shucking these pieces of shit
protip: it's a pain in the ass

>>61985822
It's the same case with these.

>>61985840
All you need is a credit card. I don't understand the videos I see people taking 6mins. It literally takes me 30 seconds to open one. I've done 20 of these.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa7QTWRhiUs

>>61985761
>different components.

Where did you hear this?

in4one

i wish 6tb reds would fucking go on sale, i need 6 more of them. even though i wouldnt only buy 2 at most from the same person, id like to save some fucking money

>>61980952
fpbp

>>61985805
People have speculated that they could be "binning" drives but that's all it is, speculation.

>>61985791
>>61985808
No. You made the claim that HGST's Ultrastar He8 is being used as WD Reds. Not only is that illegal, but that's also the fastest way to lose money because Ultrastars ARE NOT the same as NAS drives. You've never owned or heard Ultrastar drives, have you?

>>61986496
What? Why the fuck would that be illegal? Is this a joke?

>>61986679
>Enterprise drives that sounds like a engine is the same as WD Reds because they look the same on the circuit board and outside

Is this a joke?

>>61980859
>256MB cache
Anything below 512MB is worthless in today's computing environment

>>61981018
10% the size of the population means products being sold at a markup because less people buy them

>>61986679
>say product is one thing that meets certain standards to be called said product
>it's actually a different product that doesn't meet those standards to be called said product
gosh i fucking wonder

>>61980859
pretty cheap but i'd prefer the mycloud version

>>61985025
You're right, its just a shill

>>61980859
>2 Rajeesh have been deposited in your Rupees, account.

>>61988065
Owning an Indian seems like more of a burden than a reward.

>>61986950
I have He8s. They sound no different.

>>61987350
Except they exceed those standards. Who is going to complain for getting a superior product?

>>61988442
>less durable
>better product
NAS drives run slower but last a shitload longer you twit

>>61986496
The only thing that makes RED "NAS" drives is TLER support. Something that's enabled in all of Ultrastars.

Also I posted more proof than what your word is. It's up to you to provide something of value to support your claim.

>>61988466
What joke is this? Running slower doesn't mean anything. I guess Green drives must be the most reliable out there? You can have a faster drive with a longer MTBF, which is pretty much made up by the manufacturer anyway.

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>>61985271
>Seagates are the most failure prone piles of shit you can buy, ignore the shill and look up failure rates yourself.

Alright, let me do th-

>>61988497
NAS drives are designed to last longer, not because they run slower you fucking retard

>>61988559
No shit. That's what I said.

Feed me - why are single platters capped at 2TB? They've been there for a while.

>>61981018
Use a courier

>>61988584

physics

>>61981192
kek

It's almost certainly a 5200 rpm drive

256MB Cache
5400RPM

>>61990473
>5400RPM
Oh so its fucking nothing.

>>61990607
>wanting your RAID to be louder and hotter

No one is using these as their main drive.

> WD black
> black

It'll run off with all of your bits!

Seriously though - that's a low quality drive.

>WD vs Seagate bullshit
>sitting here with 3 Hitachi Ultrastars
Enjoy your bickering between two shit HDD manufacturers.

>>61990673
nobody likes waiting 17 seconds for a fucking 5400RPM drive to spin up

>>61990795

I have 10 of these, it doesn't take that long. These drives aren't designed for speed anyways, that's not what NAS drives are for retard.

>>61981113
I've read that modern external drives have the connectors soldered directly to the pcb to avoid this kind of thing

very good desu

>WD Reds are getting a negative light in this thread
I bought new 3TB WD Red in the same month last year. How bad it is??

>>61988544
I love Toshiba's. Own a few of them and still kicking years later.

>>61990916
WD Mybook didn't have this problem, I use a 4TB driver from one of them on my home server. Uncertain about this thing, though. It's newer I believe so...

>>61984882
That is the issue. Had +20 machines on a customer, WD OEM into dells. This was around 2011-2012. After 4 years, a lot of WD failures.
Other WD brands also the customer used: WD green, this one is a big piece of shit.

I seen several USB HDD WD failure at alarming rates. I simply dont trust WD.

Seagates are loud, but i had zero issues with my barracudas. 5 years after raid i donated the hdds and another guy is still using those.

>>61990939
As long as you can exchange they, as every HDD not much issues.

As other anon put thru, if you really want reliability go for hitachi or toshiba, never seen those giving errors.

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Is there a guide on taking the drive out of the case? I don't see any screws and when I tried pulling, I couldn't get a good grip and stopped because the whole thing almost went flying

Bought this a few days ago with a credit card. What's the thing you do when you get the difference back if there's a sale of your purchase up to a week after?

>>61984426
not surprised. Geek squad and accessories are the services you feel the least satisfied with what you got for the money spent.

>>61985865
cool

>>61985356
Ayyyyyyy, you get it

>>61990916

They just have a SATA to USB adapter in them

>>61991073
What would you recommend other than Seagate

>>61991908
>hard drive
>recommend
Literally anything but Seagate.

>>61981192
the thailand flood was a cover up. HDD's were expensive and scarce because the NSA was buying them all up.

>using spinning disk ancient technology in 2017
How embarrassing.
if you aren't using SSD for everything you need to wake up. you can buy a 1TB for a few hundred dollars and it'll be way more stable and last you for your entire life so really you're saving money, yes.

>>61980859
how come those ones have a two year warranty, but the mybook ones have a three year warranty?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-my-book-8tb-external-usb-3-0-hard-drive-black/5605510.p?skuId=5605510

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>>61980859
Thanks OP. Good looking out.

>>61991276
Revenue

>all these greedy fags on ebay driving the price down
Neck yourselves you impatient fucks

>>61980859
I got a 5TB as...you culd say a "gift" to myself and I can't even fill that up so far. I'm even going back and collecting old black and white monster movies and cartoons to occupy the cunt I am screwing so I don't have to listen to all her bullshit post-sex (until she leaves the next morning)

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>>61993458
Why did you include that last part you fucking loser.

>>61993458
You must be a rally cool guy.

Seagate 4TB are also dirt cheap
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/seagate-backup-plus-4tb-external-usb-3-0-hard-drive/5425900.p?skuId=5425900

You can get a refurb 3TB for $54.

$54 x 3 = $162 for 9TB.

Not a deal.

>>61994811
>refurb HDD
If you actually want to keep your data then you have to spend a little more.

>>61994837
This is why RAID/backups were invented.
I've bought 10 refurb HDD's and they're still running strong 7 years later, continuous use.

If it dies, it's as easy as swapping it out and buying another refurb. No data loss.

>>61994887
Well RAID is another story.

>>61981174

WTF are you taking about.

2+ TiB are perfectly fine. The main issue is that they aren't well suited for RAIDs because it takes too damn long for them to regenerate since HDDS are so bloody slow (Taking 8-24 hours) and in time frame there's a good chance that a second HDD will fail on the RAID which will kill it.

Data corruption is entirely from system memory (running non-ECC) and older file systems that don't do hash checking and other advanced data integrity checks on the fly.

>>61994892
Not just RAID but a sync backup does the job too.

If you don't care about performance than a simple mirror backup is best

>>61992159
t. WD shill shilling for his irrelevant shit company

>>61994914
> The main issue is that they aren't well suited for RAIDs because it takes too damn long for them to regenerate since HDDS are so bloody slow
Nah, you got that wrong in a not very small way.

The thing is, not every RAID level only has one drive's worth of redundancy.

With, for example, RAID6 (2 drives worth of redundancy) and eight or so drives, there is still very little of a chance that THREE drives would fail in the same, say, 48 hours (time until you get a replacement drive from a store + then the 24h rebuild).

> Data corruption is entirely from system memory
Nope.

> and older file systems that don't do hash checking
RAID6 with regular "scrubbing" (re-checks) also catches most realistically occurring errors on your home setup.

And actually most srs production data integrity checking is with some cloud data thing like Ceph now, not the ZFS meem you're probably hinting at.

>>61981073
>Western Digital
I go through a lot of portable externals, and when one fails for some reason or another I always open it up and see if I can salvage it. WD portable drives, in my experience, always have the interface as part of the hard drive's PCB. I am not sure if that is just for their portables or not, but I'm just saying it might not be swappable. SATA to USB adapters are like $10 though so I think you should just buy one by itself.

>>61985663
bought and slaughtered this for cheap. recertified but still, 109 cuckdollars for 6 TB

https://www.wdc.com/en-ie/products/wd-recertified/my-book.html#RWDBFJK0060HBK-EESN

>>61981203
wd IS WAY BETTER THAN SEAGATE THO

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>>61988544
After buying two ST3000DM01's and having them fail, get returned, and fail again, I have gone to HGST and never looked back

How long will this last?

>>61988603

Recommend me one plz.

>>61980859
>buying a harddrive when ssd's exist
>storing your anime porn collection when it can all easily be found online again

You're a tool if you usemore than 1Tb

>>61980859
>Amrican price

>>61985121
My three WD Blues from 5-6 years ago are still going strong.

I did quite notably have a Seagate external drive in the past though that probably only lasted a year or two before it developed an abnormally high reallocated sectors count and eventually stopped being readable by the PC. I did very briefly manage to get the OS to recognize it and salvaged some of the data but most of it was lost.

>>61996091
Well yea, it's an offer in an US shop.

Too bad we can't get it - but I'm ultimately not sure what you're complaining to OP about here.

>>61996064
>storing your anime porn collection when it can all easily be found online again

Did you already forget when nyaa was killed? We're very fortunate someone was interested in setting up an alternative and we shouldn't get complacent and figure they will never close up shop, either by choice or by force, as well.

Sure there are private trackers but they are more restricted and generally suck, also they aren't much less volatile than the public ones and it would be fairly trivial for a company interested in shutting them down to do it. Anyone can get an invite, even a copyright lawyer, as long as they know the right shit to say.

>>61996239
>We're very fortunate someone was interested in setting up an alternative
In a way, yes. Nice that it was recreated.

In another way, file sharing WASN'T going to die. If there had been no new anime tracker, other trackers or magnets or whatever else would have been used.

What was the actual problem was not having the exact database nyaa ran off. We almost lost the index of published releases with their checksums.

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>>61988544

also

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>>61981174
>anything above 2 TB in a HDD is unsta.........

Maybe when (you) were sucking your momma's tits in 2012.

>>61991189
There's 4 clips around the edges. Use some guitar picks to hunt for them and once you hit one, stick one in there. Old cut up debit/credit cards should work okay too. Then, pull away from the back and it should separate from the front.

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>>61980859
>best goy
Fake news

>>61997806
Cry me a river, europoor.

>>61997928
>t. 42%

>>61996049
Courier Six.

>>61997950
>0% german
>even though german is the biggest single ethnicity in the US
2/10 you tried

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>>61996049

>>61997928
t. WD shill
why is seagate 4 times more valuable as a company than WD?

>>61998135
>Radiant's courier has been killed.
Now what?

>1x 8TB drive
buy two for when the first one fails within the first week

>>61998537
[citation needed]

>>61998593
crashplan make data about drive failures public