/mkg/ - DIY Edition >Buyer's template: http://paste

this general is so fucking dead

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Love my RAMA!

When will matias get their fucking PBT keycaps going?
I can't take it anymore!

>>61977782
>>>/r/MechanicalKeyboards
>>61977783
Where did you get those caps?

anyone recommend a good ansi 84 key cap set?

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>>61977744
Made it myself from a Filco and a package of key caps!

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I have this one.

Any sugestions?

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First build yesterday night. The memes were right, Gateron browns >>>>>>> cherry browns

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I'm bored so I'll just keep posting. I guess it's just that many fewer of the same 20 gun and keyboard pictures we see every MKG

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I fixed the spacebar and now it returns just fine. I guess I'm a fucking brainlet and one of the stabilizer feet was fucked up causing resistance. I still think I'm gonna swap the switch out for a cherry green cause I hammer the piss out of my spacebar so I think a nice stiff clicky switch would be a top meme for this board. If I could find some nice olive green pbt caps I would nut cause then it would a lot more like I wanted it to turn out. Problem is most caps are shit tier and hard to find in the colors you want and the vendors are all niggers and assdrop is just asking to cuck yourself with a 4 month wait.

Hey /Mkg/, I just recently built my first Keyboard. Its a tada68 with Zealios switches.
For some reason whenever I press the switch "a" the caps lock turns on aswell. The switches are beside each other. I looked at the solder and it looked fine? Anyone had similar issues?

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>>61979079
That ctrl key is not sitting in the plate properly

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>>61978008
RAMA Premium Limited keycap and SA blank 2u.

>>61977744
>>61979028
>>61979058
>>61979079
>>61979113
>not 100%
cucks, just as gay as earbuds, mini-itx, sub 5 inch phones, and living anywhere in europe

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How often do you guys clean your keyboards?
I clean my room (sweeping and dusting) every two days, and vacuum once a week, and my keyboard and mouse still get really dusty. Just look at this shit I just cleaned yesterday and it's already filthy with dust!

Should I just buy some covers to put over the keyboard when I'm not using it? I hate having to basically dust it off every morning.

>>61980063
I don't clean my keyboard ever and it doesn't look half as bad. Just a bit dried cum crust here and there.

>>61977744
I backed the keyboard.io butterfly shaped keyboard a few years ago during a short-lived kickstarting phase. I wrote it off as a lesson on impulse buying. But I was reading some updates today after getting the backer survey and I saw that it had an any key. Now I'm a little excited.
Is it a silly keyboard?

>>61980635
I fucking hate living in a dusty area. My mom vacuums the house constantly and all our furniture is always sprinkled with dust.
It doesn't help that I only buy black peripherals where the dust is easily seen.

>>61979910
This.
>tfw full size keboard, full size headphones, full size mouse, full size computer case, full size bed and full size dick

All these "minimalist" mini keyboards are for sissies.

>>61980063
Damn and I thought my place was dusty...
>Should I just buy some covers
Just put some cloth over it.

>>61979910
>he doesn't realise the beauty and comfort of mini-ITX, phone usable by one hand and Europe.
What an uncultured tasteless brainlet...
>>61980976
You forgot SUV in that list. Don't compliment your dick size just because some things that you use are "full size".

>>61980976
me too, 100% keyboard, palm grip mouse, fuck hueg headphones will pillows as earpads

these threads need less 60% fags

>>61981215
>mini-ITX
just FUCK my expansion up

>one handed phone
my 5 in phone is 100% usable in one hand, stop being a manlet

>europe
gayest and most cucked part of earth

>>61981215
a full size sedan is good enough, i like having my landbarge, go back yo yurop with your gay hatchbacks

>>61981215
I live in Europe though.
I just don't like tiny things, the laptop I'm typing this from has a keyboard without a numpad, and I find myself reaching for a numpad that isn't there every day, it annoys the hell out of me.
I use a 24 inch mousepad too and I don't have issues with my hands being too far apart.

Also I don't drive an SUV, just a full size sedan. I'll never drive a cuckmobile.

>>61981145
I'll just ask my mother for a woven cloth to put over it and call it a day. Can't stand having to dust shit off every morning.

>>61981215
>phone usable by one hand
tbqh if you can't use a 6" phone with one hand something is wrong with you

>>61981272
you sound fat as fuck.

>>61981344
I'm 155 pounds.

>>61981253
>hatchbacks
>gay
Rally is the manliest car racing there is. And guess what type of car dominates it?

>>61981272
Phantom numpad syndrome.

>>61981284
7" phone.

>>61981378
rally is for finnish autists

>>61981407
Sisu is not autism.
https://youtu.be/2bmqdnx5R1U?t=4m32s

>>61981378
>Phantom Numpad syndrome
Yeah, thing is before I bought my current keyboard I also didn't have my laptop. My previous laptop had a numpad, as did my previous keyboard.
I didn't think I used the numpad all that much, so I was planning on buying a TKL keyboard, but I decided to wait a bit, then I got my new laptop with no numpad, and after a few days of usage I decided that I was totally going to buy my next keyboard with a numpad, because I can't stand reaching for a non existing numpad constantly.

I have no clue what the people who buy TKL and other compact keyboards do with their machines, because I find the numpad to be essential.

>>61981378
>Phantom Numpad syndrome
Yeah, thing is before I bought my current keyboard I also didn't have my laptop. My previous laptop had a numpad, as did my previous keyboard.
I didn't think I used the numpad all that much, so I was planning on buying a TKL keyboard, but I decided to wait a bit, then I got my new laptop with no numpad, and after a few days of usage I decided that I was totally going to buy my next keyboard with a numpad, because I can't stand reaching for a non existing numpad constantly.

I have no clue what the people who buy TKL and other compact keyboards do with their machines, because I find the numpad to be essential.

>>61980063
is this a joke? looks like it was next to a saw cutting wood. what the fuck is that

>>61981505
>>61981604
Fucking double post reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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>>61981624
That keyboard has been sitting on my desk in my room, which i wasn't even in the whole day. I just have my windows open because otherwise it gets too hot.
I live on the side of a mountain and there's always lots of dust coming in.

Just cleaned it with a brush.

>>61981651
>opening your window
this is absolutely the problem. I just run AC all day and we have a THICC air filter, I never have dust issues that bad

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>>61981688
It's not so host as to have the AC on all the time so I can't justify it. However, even in winter it gets pretty dusty.

>>61981505
>>61981604
Yeah, "left-handed" design with numpad or even navigation on the left side might be nice if you feel that letters are too far to the left (as in my case: I use low sensitivity mouse and large pad - but I'm currently falling for 60% meme)

>>61981688
I keep the window open all year around even when it's -20°C outside. Much easier to breathe.

>>61981722
even when not heating or cooling, we keep the house fan on so air circulates

>>61981651
>that volume roller
it's SUCH a waste of space but it seems pretty comfy anyway. If I didn't have a knob on my headphone amp already, that would be kinda cool to have. I guess I could keep my amp louder and have a knob for software volume.

>>61981722
The amount of dust in that first pic is not natural.

>>61981748
Yeah, it's almost like there is an incineration plant nearby.

>>61981728
I might try to find a left handed keyboard in the future, right now I use a huge mousepad with 45cm/360, so I angle my keyboard a bit.

>>61981747
It's not that big of a waste of space when the keyboard already has this big area on the top of the top row that's basically used by nothing. So cramming a few buttons and a roller there isn't a bad idea. Personally I love the roller and have gotten very used to it. Rolls very smoothly too, however not as smooth as a know on a DAS for example.

>>61981748
>>61981768
I live in a very dusty area. If the house isn't cleaned very regularly it looks like it's been abandoned.

>>61981794
>It's not that big of a waste of space when the keyboard already has this big area on the top of the top row that's basically used by nothing.
Yeah, but I already find that whole keyboard design a waste of space. I love my 60%. I think they could probably be as space efficient with an 80% or 100% and no one would really complain. My keys go to the edge of my board. I think that's part of what makes 60% keyboards look so attractive.

>>61981814
Yeah, also if you have a shitty small desk like me and a TKL allows you to have more than 10 cms of space to move your mouse you'll appreciate it, trust me.

Also my KBParadise V80 has very few waste of space in it's design, it's very great. Fuck small dicked americans and their obsession for retarded big things to compensate their inferiority complexes. I'll just use whatever I'm comfortable with. I use a big phone as I have big hands and it doesn't bother me, but I wouldn't buy a SUV or another big ass expensive car when my Renault Clio takes me everywhere and is also easier to park.

>>61981886
I'm American and also bothered by the big things obsession. I generally find that watching anime is more comfortable at my desk on a 22-24" monitor than on a very large (65") TV in the living room, for example, although other things come into play here, such as getting to use headphones.

can u suggest me some nice looking keycaps for tada68?

>>61981913
Nothing against you then.

>>61981934
Same to you. I do think the big things obsession really is more common in America. I have heard that the small/medium/large drink sizes are even different in other countries.

>>61981886
>not being American
I'd be pissed off too man

Would getting Gateron Browns and falling for "change springs" meme would be a major waste of time and money? Also, why the fuck do they sell gold plated springs? It's not like you'd see them even through a clear switch...

>>61981505
>>61981604
What do people even use numpads for? All my cheap rubberdomes before I fell for the mech meme were fullsize, my laptop right now has a fullsize, and I've fucking never used it (except for some random altcodes now and then, for which a layer on my 65% is completely sufficient).

Is your job data entry or something?

>>61981914
The tada68 ones

>>61981814
The other gunfag (I think it's one of the tripfags actually) has a compact 100% with a (chink?) Carbon set, it makes me cum whenever I see it desu. It's so fucking comfy.

I think it's a leopold or something along those lines

>>61982160
Oh, wow. Sounds cool. Got a pic saved?

What is the best material to get keycaps in?

>>61982322
Some sort of durable fabric

http://r.ebay.com/buAFpj
Anything wrong with these? I'm sure you've seen them since they're the first result in eBay. My shitty keys on this chinkboard I have are wearing out already. I like the mechanical switches, but I do miss the textured higher quality keys from my old ass HP membrane keyboard.

>>61982367
could you be less of a fucking faggot?

>>61982527
What? Plastic always wears off or shines. Fabric infused keycaps NEVER shine and they're universal for all switches. Just a matter of time before they turn into a meme around here. Nothing good ever lasts

>>61982127
My job isn't data entry per se but I do data entry often, mostly for testing forms and processes and other similar things.
I also do calculations and stuff very often, for which the numpad comes in very handy (however I am thinking about buying one of those USB mech keyboard calculators someone posted in here).

Also for some of the games I play the numpad comes in handy, mostly flight sims, where having macros on the numpad is actually really nice.

>>61982322
Doesn't everyone here say PBT is your best bet? They don't shine over time and are durable. POM is better but significantly more expensive and hard to find.

>>61982640
The keyboard calculator by ducky is awesome. Think its called the ducky pocket, not positive.

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nth for 75%

>>61982574
>Fabric infused keycaps
link?

>>61982748
Are those like the ones on Microsoft's new Surface?

>>61977744
can we talk about how much of a shithole /r/mechmarket is? insanely overpriced, and the mods are filthy whores who will delete anything because muhh read the rules

>>61982827
Similar but more of a rough fabric feel.

>>61982748
link to what? buy them?

>>61982178
Unfortunately not. I think it may be qb or whatever his name is. He'll pop around soon, hopefully.

>>61982866
the fuck do you think autismo

>>61982473
>OEM
Other than that they seem fine. Though for $20 they might not really be 1.5mm, but worst case is you wasted $20.

>>61982970
There's barely enough plastic keycaps to keep all you happy. But you think someone is mass producing fabric infused keycaps? I got mine from someone on mech market

They have the best feel out of anything I've used and the sound is very unique with absolutely no pinging

>>61983078
Post pics

>>61983172
I am on my laptop right now anon I will later

>>61983078
>reddit

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where can i find blue dsa mods? want to pull together a knockoff blank quartz set like this

How the hell are non-programmers supposed to use QMK?

>>61983721
>pretending you never visit reddit
so cute!

>>61983863
i actually don't and i suggest that you do the same

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>>61982160
Leopold only makes one compact full size keyboard, so you're probably thinking of the RS96 with GMK carbon

>>61983999
>compact
W H Y
H
Y

This general has been here for years what do you fags even talk about it's just keyboards.

>>61983775
Its not that hard anon. There are several guides on how to use and it only takes 10 minutes to learn.
Also
>on /g/
>can't do basic programing

>>61983997
Forgive me if I can't take you seriously as you're posting on 4chan telling me not to go on reddit. Are you 12?

what is better PBT or ABS

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>>61984005
Its the most popular layout there is. If you ever go to a businesses or hospitals you'd see a 1800 layout on most of their keyboards, at least that's what it is here in America. My clinic uses G80 1800 clones, but they're rubber domes.

>>61984029
PBT

>>61984022
maybe its because i didn't discover 4chan through reddit like you did

>>61984022
Is it really that hard to wrap your head around. Reddit's posting format sucks and their mech community has an unhealthy obsession with artisan keycaps. Deskthority is a much better place then that shit hole.

>>61984053
>Its the most popular
>implying that makes anything good
why not just go back to rebbit with opinions like that

>>61984091
Why?

>>61984129
It does not shine nearly as fast like abs does, it doesn't yellow with age, and it has better texture (usually).

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>>61984129
ABS does this after two months, while PBT does it after 2 decades

>>61984022
>>61984092
This. I just can't use reddit simply because of the way how its laid out. I'm to used this site to accept anything different

>>61984111
You seem to be an expert on what reddit likes and doesn't like. I thought they were a bunch of contrarian hipsters, but you claim to know otherwise. Can you educate me since I can't be bothered to figure out how to use that site.

>>61984092
now you're criticizing me for how you think i found 4chan? please kys

>>61984099
i really just scan the latest mech market posts to see if anything is worth it
>thinking i care about "artisan keycaps"

>>61984159
so you look for everything to buy on 4chan? anything you do on the internet must be through 4chan right? do you not use ebay, craigslist, or any other website because its not "laid out" like 4chan? your argument literally makes no sense

>>61984149
>after 2 decades
I can confirm. I have a model M from 1988 that's got some shiny keys starting to show.

Anyone got one of these? How is it?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/YMDK-40-YMD40-DIY-Kit-AMJ-PCB-CNC-Case-Plate-For-40-Mini-Cute-Mechanical-Keyboard/32821953148.html?shortkey=eMruA3q6&addresstype=600

>>61984159
>>61984099
>>61984092
>>61983997

If you were to log everyone's IP address on 4chan and reddit and then compare them, what percentage of IPs would be the same? I am guessing 75%

>>61984219
You're a special kind of retard. Who compares e commerce stores to niche communities. If you don't like it here then go back, no one is forcing you to stay.

>>61984219
Luckily the majority of the internet uses the same layout standards as 4chan so I'm good.

>>61984346
I didn't start the comparison. My reasoning is that I browse the latest mech market posts for good priced shit to buy. So I'm using reddit as a website to potentially buy shit from. I don't know how you don't understand that.

>>61984365
>layout standards
Care to define that?

It's a fucking list with pictures and prices. If the name of the keyboard catches my eye, I check the price. Simple stuff fellas

>>61984145
any good white on black key pbt keycaps?

Which mouse is the equivalent of a mech keyboard?

>>61984708
Any gamer mouse that advertises its sensor or how many clicks it can sustain.

>>61983999
>space below F row
>space between main, nav, and numpad islands
That's not it either. I'm talking about one big unbroken island of keys

>>61984708
Optical gamer mice, unironically. The different grip types and button amounts/layouts are analogous to the different switches and form factors of mech keyboards.

Meanwhile cheap opticals are the greentech/zorro equivalent, and lasers are rubberdomes. You can even buy "premium high-quality lasers" like the G700s, which pairs well with a Topre board.

>>61984993
>G700s, which pairs well with a Topre board.
pairs well in a fucking trashcan

is this set compatable with a corsair K70?
https://shop.tai-hao.com/products/-pbt-104-c02bc201

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>>61984875
Yeah the RS96 with GMK carbon you illiterate twat. Gad this board sometimes.

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>>61985161
no. You need to get a set with a 1.5u ctrl and 3 1u modifiers. The remaining ones are standard 1.25u

>>61985252
how good is the quality on those keycaps?

>>61985266
Tai hao is very thin since PBT is a brittle plastic that can easily break if its not thicc enough, but its cheap so it doesn't matter.

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WIP

>>61985023
Exactly

How the fuck do i get a cherry linear gray keyboard reeeeeeeeeeeee

>>61985838
buy one from ducky

>>61985955
what one?

are there any keyboards that have hotswapable keyswitches?

>>61986499
yes, a lot of chink switches have bad contacts so they put them on keyboards without soldering them and list it as a feature. That way when the switch begins to chatter you can easily replace it

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>>61986246
Ducky One

>>61978693
What kind of wood is that, anon?

>>61979596
It's soldered flush to the PCB and clicked in the plate like all the others. I don't know what youre talking about

>>61984632
It will be very hard to find sets like that because white on black requires either double shot molding or reverse dye sublimation, and both are rare since the former is hard with PBT, and the second doesn't seem to be a thing yet.

Because of that, dye sublimation is the only common way of creating quality legends on PBT keycaps, so vast majority of good sets will have legends that are darker than the keycaps.

What do you guys think about Outemu?

im going to be selling a r1 kbd75 with lubed invyr pandas, zeal stabs and a set of godspeed

how much should i be asking for it?

>>61987252
ill pay $100 right now. take it or leave it

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>>61987320

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>>61986811
1980s synthetic veneer'd MDF

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Is this keyboard good or just a meme?

>>61986880
there are laser etched PBT keycaps too

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>>61977744
>Budget
Around $50 pls
>Location
USA
>Preferred Switch Type
Gateron Reds
>Layout
Ansi
>Form Factor
TKL, I originally had a 60%
>Backlight
No thanks
>Previous/current
Previously it was a KBP v60, spilled water on it and now its dead, I'm currently using a shitty dell keyboard I just want something cheap

>>61987880
I haven't seen any laser etched keycaps that look good.

>>61987981
The leopold ones look fine

>>61987844
It's decent for $50, and at least you can take off the Tonka feet. If you really don't want to spend the $100 for something decent like a Tada68, then you can just grab the Jack Ass to hold you in the mean time.

Any good 75% keycaps sets?

>>61987893
>KBP v60
that had a linear grey switch, i wish they made one of those in their full format

>>61988420
>75%
go fuck yourself

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Just swapped a cherry green in under the space bar. Feels a lot better now

>>61987471
Thanks!

>>61988941
what's with all the hatred towards 75%? It's objectively the best tenkeyless layout.

>>61987168
One of the best budget options

Not worth it for serious builds/purchases, get gateron (or cherry)

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>>61989035
looking good anon

how do you like the gat browns?

would you use a keyboard without visible numbers, letters or symbols, if it only had raised braille bumps?

>>61989963
>unique molding for every key
Will be too expensive and will probably feel like shit.

>>61989963
No, the braille would make typing hell.

No reason not to use a blank keyboard though, I honestly don't know why they're not more popular, especially among autistic niche keyboards and keycap sets where you can be pretty sure 99%+ of the target customers can touch-type

>>61989939
Hey seiden you should compress your stock photos, everybody has seen them like 50 times already and don't need to see an ultra-high-quality 3+MB jpeg.

You could get most of them under 500kb easily if you just took 5 minutes to shrink them just a bit, maybe make them into pngs too for extra autism. Given the amount of time you spend posting here it's almost certainly worth it

>>61990015
Blank keyboards are like cheeseless pizza. They just look wrong.

>>61990015
I'm pretty good at touch typing but I would never get a blank keyboard. There are quite a few symbols I don't regularly use and sometimes I just have look how to type them. I wouldn't reject a keyboard with blank letter keys though

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About to buy filco majestouch.
Any reason why I shouldnt?

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>>61977744
Since it's the OP I'll post my XD60
Got all the issues I had resolved eventually, just took some research/resoldering
Real comfy, messing around with QMK is fun

>>61990116
Have you considered side-printing?

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>>61990118
>numpad
ahahahahahaha

>>61990133
In theory I think it looks awesome but I can't stand sculpted keycaps, so yeah...

>>61990144
I use my numpad to arrange windows in my window manager.

>>61990161
then get a tenkeyless keyboard and a usb numpad. numpad must always be on the left. having it on the right is the most retarded thing

>>61990183
>>61990183
>numpad must always be on the left. having it on the right is the most retarded thing
Why?

>>61990194
The design with the numpad on the right was concieved when mice weren't a thing. Nowadays we need space on the right of the keyboard to place the mouse so the natural thing to do is move the keyboard to the left.
However, that makes the home row offset and typing becomes a pain in the ass. If the numpad is on the left the more important parts of the keyboard can be centered in front of the user and still allow for comfortable mouse use.

>>61990144
>numpadlet

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>>61987893
Please respond

Ducky mini or Filco majestouch minila?

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>>61990056
>you should compress your stock photos
maybe I should add some watermarks

>>61990729

now that's simplicity

can it run games in ultra?

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>>61990792
Can run crysis on three VMs

great shitposting performance too

>>61981814
Volume rockers are one of the most convenient things ever. Stop brainwashing yourself.

Anyone have experience with matias switches? I've heard they wobble a lot. Don't care about no choices with keycaps. Need something tactile.

>>61990864
Mechanical>rockers

>>61990890
The rocker has saved my eardrums a few times by split second reduction when something blasts out from a random tab or game launching.

>>61990880
They revised them a bit so they don't wobble as bad. They do still wobble though. But it's no big deal really.
Cherry switches get btfo by matias in terms of tactility.

>>61990913
mechanical ones can do that too

>>61990880
>>61990920
The Alps design on the whole has a bit of wobble by design to reduce friction, so they're smooth even completely unlubed.

>>61990920
Have you used matias switches personally? Not sure which one to go for...i guess the clicky one is really loud?

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>>61986861
This corner looks like it's a bit above the plate

>>61990935
A rocker is mechanical and feels satisfying in it's own way.

>>61990991
I have. I really enjoy the clicky version, they instantly put my mx blue board to shame. But, I will say they are as loud as my model M with a lot less "ping", which I don't mind in the least.
You should look into the quiet clicks if youre not into that.

>>61991029
oh boy its one of those faggots with a literal definition of mechanical

>>61991080
Thats what i am looking into but I can't tell if the matias brand keyboard uses what switch

>>61991098
You're the one just saying mechanical this that and the other as the answer to everything. Get off that mechanical dildo and learn that other people have different opinions.

>>61991120
The Matias boards with the quiet switches literally have "quiet" in the title.

>>61991135
I'm not you are you tard. Sober up an reread your posts

>>61991164
I got a keyboard when there was a promotion, it had a volume rocker. I love it. I've used function key keyboards and button volume keyboards before.
The volume rocker is the superior precision tool and more conducive to volume control. Hence why good audio devices have volume dials or rocker. Such as recording studio equipment...
mixing desks, compressors etc

How many clicks of your mechanical key to get to quarter volume?
A quarter turn of dial - sorted.

>>61991261
just 1

>>61991144
Yeah I guess I wasn't sure about that. The only thing I've heard bad about them is how light they are and I tend to hit keys hard

I have only two keyboards, one with cherry brown and the other with Outemu blue switches, they are pretty good and all but now I'm looking for something even more tactile feeling.

Should I go for Unicomps buckling spring or Matias switches?

>>61991261
>tfw you can never actually get to 25% because the volume key only changes in 10% increments

>>61991318
They're like 60 grams. That's about the same as MX black switches.

>>61991348
both tbqhfam.
Honestly, I would say matias. Unicomp is pretty dogshit.

>>61980063
They sell wipes for your car dash that resist dust. Wipe down your desk and all furniture with it and less dust will build up, and less will find its way onto your kb.

>>61991390

What is so wrong with unicomp?
Its basically impossible for me to find a decent model M at a reasonable price here where I live, and it would be too big of a gamble to import some used one that may or may not be in good condition from ebay...

>>61991390
>>61991375
Is this a good keyboard from matias themselves? Amazon reviews aren't promising but the ones on MK were. (i have prime)

https://www.amazon.com/Matias-Mini-Quiet-Pro-Keyboard/dp/B00D3BTMRU/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1503190715&sr=8-4&keywords=matias+keyboard

>>61991448
I use the fullsize quiet pro at work. It's great.
I could do without the glossiness of the case but w/e.

>>61991444
if unicomp is your last option then its no big deal. They just don't really care about what they do anymore. They just push a "make model M" button at this point and rake in the profits.
They are made at a much lower standard than a model M and they are only getting worse as its the same tooling they have always used to make them.
>>61991448
I'm not a fan of the boards Matias actually makes themselves. But it shouldn't be a bad buy.
If anything, it will be a good board to test to see of you like the switches or not. You can always return it!

>>61991498
That is why I am looking at the quiet version, for work. Have you used cherry clears? Can you describe the tactility at all for me? I know its tough to describe something like that

>>61991513
Not crazy about the look of them, but what other option is there? A few different KBP models but I like this smaller compact layout as I have a tkl already

>>61991541
I have the KBP v60 and its never given me an issue, but.. >60% keyboard meme
you could look at the v80, but i've heard some not so good things about them.

>>61991513

I see. Well, even if its unicomps model M it should still be an upgrade for me, or at least a pleasant different experience.

Thanks, anon.

>>61991541
I have used clears. They're similar in weight to the Matias switches but the tactile bump is very weak in comparison. It's more than browns but still doesn't come close.

>>61991620
>it should still be an upgrade
Oh, by all means. Its for sure a step up for a lot of people. But if you can find an original model M in good condition then I would go that route every time.
Unicomp makes some alright boards. I just wish they would take what they do seriously.
They could really make some amazing boards if they just fucking tried.

>>61991575
Yeah, I'd rather get the matias board over the KBP one, never been a fan of those v80s and I didn't fall for the 60% meme lol

>>61991631
What tactile bump is weak in comparison? The matias is weak in comparison? Or the clears are weak compared to the matias?

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>>61991710
>I didn't fall for the 60% meme
I did anon, I did.
Its all downhill from here.
But I like it so its whatever.

>>61990118
leopold is similar quality and includes PBT keycaps. Why go filco in 2017?

>>61991710
The clears are weak. Basically all MX style switches have weaksauce tactility compared to tactile alps or buckling springs.

>>61991734
>>61991710
75% is best retards

>>61991734
I'd go bananas coding with no arrow keys and no home/end or page up/down

Ducky mini or Filco majestouch minila?

Someday I will build an ergodox with clicky alps

By the way, just to be clear, matias switches are basically on par with original alps, right?

>>61991769
Exactly. 60% and 40% are absolutely degenerate.

>>61991786
>>61991768
Theres no 75% keyboards in stock anywhere

>>61991786
60% isn't bad when you get a fully programmable board.

>>61991800
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=84+keyboard

Oh really?

>>61991800
Nice dubs, but you're a moron

>>61984632

kbdfans used to have a doubleshot pbt set on ali that was white on black, but I was told it's sold out.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mechanical-keyboard-pbt-keyboarded-a-large-black-keyboard-keyboarded/2230037_32740037614.html

They're still listed for some reason, so maybe ask them if they actually have any?

I ended up getting these which I like a lot:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/double-shot-pbt-keycap-cherry-profile-rainbow-cap-for-mx-usb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-5-5/2230037_32799680240.html

They look much nicer in person. Thick, bright lettering, and the rainbow effect is pretty subtle.

>>61991785
They're actually better than the original simplified Alps switches, but not as nice as the older complicated ones.

>>61991815
This.

>>61991859
>>61991847
I should have said GOOD 75% keyboards. Those ones on amazon look like garbage

>>61992028
Drevo is absolutely amazing. Their font looks hideous but build quality is top notch. As long as you get one with an aluminum base

>>61992028
You're still a moron

>>61992101
what about the stabilizers? almost every 75% i've tried uses shitty knock off cherry stabilizers that rattle like crazy.

of the ones i've tried only the plum 84 (got it with gateron switches from aliexpress) uses lubed costar stabilizer that do not rattle.

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>buying ABS and actually using them

It's like you don't value your investment at all

>>61982322
gold

>>61992229
Stabilizers are roughly on par with my Cherry MX Board 3.0. These never bothered me but that's the only reference I have because I never paid too much attention to stabilizers.

>>61992314
how does it compare to something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z0bZ0GbGes

i almost joined the drop for this board.

>>61992439
that's not how it sounds at all. way more low pitched and certainly less annoying.

>>61992482
PS, I can't feel the stabilizers rattle while typing but I guess the guy in the video feels them

>>61992499
>>61992482
>>61992439
>>61992314
cherry stabs are shit

costar stabs are shit on everything except the spacebar

with my costar stabbed board I took off the wires from every key except the spacebar and they feel much better and NO RATTLE

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>>61992273
>there are people in this general that use their keyboards

disgusting

Sent from my iPhone.

>>61992229
If you want good stabs you're basically gonna have to build the keyboard from scratch, use genuine Cherry stabs and modify them

>>61992535
how does that work? so they're not stabilized at all?

>>61992597
They don't need to be. Having them tilt a little bit if you press off center doesn't bother me nearly as much as the rattle from stabilizers.

>>61992273
I actually think the shine is charming pls send help

>>61989939
Better than the Cherry's. Quite surprised honestly. I love the feel of this kb I just wish I could find some better caps. I'd love some military/olive green pbt caps

>>61991012
Hmm you're right. I'll check on that

>>61992177
Can you link me to something, faggot? Calling me a moron while you're doing nothing. Sad!

>>61992101
What the fuck is drevo

Im about to just order the matias you faggots

>>61992882
If you weren't a moron you would've already found some moron.

>>61992928
I don't really like the tada68 and not a huge fan of the magicforce boards either. I really like the kbd75s but fuck building one. also has to be a good tactile switch so its not that easy

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>>61992957
You sound like a moron, so the Race 3 with clears is perfect for you. Even though the layout is non standard it comes with extra MLP keycaps juuuuuust for you

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>>61992985
>pic related

>>61993020
Oh you're an American. That explains a lot you moron.

>>61993047
I really like that keyboard too anon. And yes, I am from the greatest country in the world.
Do you have one? Sell me it faggot

>>61993071
Europe and Asia have some

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>>61977744
topre master race reporting
>not using the best mechanical keyboard
>shiggydiggy

>>61993071
>And yes, I am from the greatest country in the world.

So what's it like in the 1960's?

>>61992882
>Im about to just order the matias
Just do that. No sense in arguing with those retards.

Ducky mini or Filco majestouch minila ?

>>61992882
>>61993146
Don't forget to get a couple extra switches while you're at it in case some start to chatter. Matias is nice and will ship a couple free ones with your order if you ask them.

>>61993117
Post a link, faggot. I just checked an eu site and they were sold out.

>>61993123
>Thinking whatever shithole country you live in would last 30 seconds against us
Good one

>>61993146
>>61993177
Now you're making me second guess them, do their switches fail normally?

>>61993193
>Thinking whatever shithole country you live in would last 30 seconds against us

Greatest country in the world != greatest military power

Yeah, you're great at sending young men to die for the kikes. Good job.

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>>61993193
>can't even beat a bunch of illiterate farmers with outdated guns

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just gonna step in to say that i bought one of these, Cooler Master Pro L with some Cherry browns, and after a few days of ownership (coming from a cheap Dell membrane) it's totally worth the hype.

you guys are aesthetics assholes, but you've got good taste in tactile feedback

>>61993208
Then what would you describe the greatest country as? You sound like a liberal.

Not saying our country is innocent or anything but we started democracy. Also have gone off the rails for a while but Trump will put it back on track.

>>61993209
what did you mean by this?

>>61993193
>do their switches fail normally
Matias's QC isn't as good as cherry or gateron so it is likely that maybe a switch will develop keychatter problems. Their warranty does cover it, but since matias switches can be opened up without desoldering them its a whole lot faster just to fix it your self.

>>61993257
There isn't a greatest country, there are a handful of great countries. I love the US, it's a great country.

>>61993193
>do their switches fail normally
The revised ones shouldn't. Very worst case scenario you hit a key and every 1/500 times it will register an extra letter.
As >>61993258 said, you can open them up and fix them easily if you have some spare switches.

>>61993257
>but we started democracy
>what are ancient greece and rome

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>>61993257
>but we started democracy
Are Americans really this delusional
Also
>Democratic Republic
>American Education
>Yadda Yadda

>>61993258
>>61993274
Good to know, wasn't aware you can open without desoldering.

>>61993285
>>61993302
Every ancient civilization was run by emperors, kings, gods or some sort of tyrant. After we defeated the greatest global super power in the world at the time (Great Britain if you forgot) we setup a new type of government that the world never saw. If you actually think as a citizen you were more free to do what you wanted in ancient greece or rome you're fucking retarded. Now thats cleared up, we had major fuck ups over the years but that doesn't change history folks.

>>61993257
Every country that isn't America is a third world country.

>>61993257
>who are the greeks

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>>61993438
Yeah the greeks were such a modern democracy, definitely NOT influenced by mythological gods.

Of course their system is considered the FOUNDATION of western society but comparing the two is laughable.

>>61993482
>we invented everything
t. americuck
face it, your system never worked and it will never work.

>>61993500
We had a hand in making capitalism a thing.

Capitalism created all these keyboards you faggots obsess over, just saying. Although the manufacturing industry has definitely gone to asia/china over the years.

>>61993417
I would like to interject. "* world country" is a term dating back to Cold War, by which it roughly split the world into three: First World - US and developed countries that bowed down to it, Second World - USSR/Comecon and Third World - weaksauce irrelevant countries where the first two waged proxy battles. However, Russian Federation as the country that inherited nuclear arsenal and took all debts of USSR upon itself is clearly Second World while the rest of Comecon republics can be argued as Second or Third world.

However, these views are outdated and don't accurately represent the state of the modern world because there is an elephant in the room that is China which is neither First, Second nor Third World.

Also, America is not a country.

>>61993660
Every country besides America is a shithole

>>61993660
>America is not a country
what did he mean by this

>>61993704
He's probably either one of those autists who thinks there's only one combined american continent or a pedant who's trying to point out that america is a landmass and the united states is the country

>>61993704
He's just being a faggot, he knows the US is referred to as America by everybody.

>>61993725
Maybe he's a spic

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>>61993121
>topre
>mechanical

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>>61993121
>Rubber dome
>Better than anything

>>61993947
Funny thing is that its more durable then cherry shit despite being a rubber membrane

If I buy one of these bent steel cases with holes for Cherry in them then sit with a file for a day could I realistically make it Alps-compatible and then handwire the whole thing like a badass madman?

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>>61993957
>Implying cherry is good

>>61993723
A pedant, I choose a pedant!
>>61993725
A pedant!

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>>61993987
I never implied it

>>61993987
Billions of gamers with gamer-grade Cherry keybos can't be wrong.

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>>61994009
>Implying you never implied it

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>>61994015
>Thinking gaymer opinions matter

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Ducky One TKL Cherry Blue PBT. My first mech kb but pretty happy with it

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>>61994034
>falling for that bait

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>>61994021
>implying implications

>>61993983
I'm sure you could. Although I think alps requires a smaller hole vertically than cherry.

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>>61994052
>Implying that I'm implying implications

Why the hell is it so hard to find a decent keyboard
>start with vortex race 3 layout, fix the retarded escape/delete keys
>fully flashable firmware (see whitefox)
>pick your own switches
Come on fucktards, it's not that hard.

>>61994095
You mean the KBD75, B.mini, mx-mini, etc, etc

Can you dye beige keycaps or would they look weird?

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>>61995093
Dying is an additive process, so you CAN dye anything but black. However, getting the result you are expecting may be difficult if you aren't starting with pure white. And sometimes even if you are.

I've dyed beige plastic and it came out great, pic related bottom left. What color are you trying to do?

>>61995172
>plastic clip
Absolutely disgusting.

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>>61995172
Haven't decided the color yet, I have to really think about it before I dye them. I'm going for this look but replacing the grey with a different color.

>>61995195
>clip
Opinion discarded.

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>>61995264

>>61978699
Bolt mod
Floss mod
Grease mod if you hate the noise
Enjoy it.

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>>61995255
Like I said, because you're starting with something other than white, the color you end up with will still contain what the starting color was. If you add blue for example, you will end up with beige-blue caps. You would have to counteract the beige by adding an amount of opposing color. Figuring out what that mix is will be the tricky part, and it would be best if you had a sacrificial set or at least a few keys to experiment with before you do the whole batch.

tl;dr You will have to experiment with dye color mixes and boil time, you cannot guess the correct recipe beforehand.

>>61995195
I wish Magpul would release their secret recipe or else make key cap sets themselves, their blend is EXTREMELY durable.

If mechanical switches outlast membranes in lifetime use, why do people need 7 keyboards

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TFW model M keycaps are getting shiny..

>>61995282
>LOL i BOWLE UU

>>61989883
>best tenkeyless
>tenkeyless
>good

>>61995325
>PMAG keycap set
Could you fucking imagine?

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>>61994035
cheers

>>61995325
Why do you post so many pictures of your guns on the technology board? It makes you seem pretty gay anon

>>61991738
I own a filco and a leopold TKL and I prefer the filco.

>I like the costar stabilizers better than the cherry ones on the leopold
>The case on the filco feels like it's higher quality plastic and the edges are sharper

My leopold didn't come with PBT keycaps though and it's probably an older model at this point.

Some of my ABS caps have got ridges on WASD because my keyboard hand is like a claw when I play games and mostly my nails hit keys. My nails are short it's just how my fingers rest.

Will this ever happen to PBT? I just got some nice dyesubs and I don't want them ruined too.

Maybe I have to quit
>playing games

>>61990144

If you ever actually worked with a computer, you'd need a numpad.

>>61992605
Lube, ever heard of it?

>>61995375
To show off on /gee/

>>61992761
You can just heat up the solder joints and push it down, it's an easy problem to fix

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>>61990233
well, there's also this kind of layout

>>61995621
Your keyboard is an anime!

>>61995629
4u

>>61995835
You're nails are actually digging into the plastic?
Post pics.
Im not sure if it'll happen to PBT or not

>>61979910
>living anywhere in europe
so you mean not having a datacap is being cucked? : ^)

>>61995621
How is the waifu caps and where can I get them?

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