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So To is planning on altering the source code of their new clients

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So To is planning on altering the source code of their new clients to be able to track users and sites because they want to ban hate speech? How is Tor different from the fucking clear net again?
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>>61975478
Source?
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>>61975478
that's not what they said, stop baiting for (you)s, sage
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>>61975497
Probably breitbart "news"
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>tor sticker on your laptop

lmao. "TSA check me please? please????"
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>>61975478
isn't having a tor sticker on your computer just a huge fucking sign that says "I HAVE ILLEGAL SHIT ON THIS COMPUTER"
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>>61975478
Tor is a honeypot.

>>61975516
>breitbart "news"
They're more reliable than CNN, WaPo and NYTimes... all of which are proven liars.
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>>61975572
May as well say "ask me 'bout my CP collection".
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>>61975572
>>61975744
>he's using HTTPS what does he have to hide
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>>61975584
http://www.snopes.com/tag/breitbart/
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>>61975478
Nah they're just going to virtue signal on Twitter
>>61975989
fuckin snopes lol
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>>61975584
They said that a rally had thousands of people when it actually had 100. Very reliable I must say.
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>>61976004
>fuckin snopes lol
Is this how you dismiss arguments when confronted with solid evidence?
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>>61976059
Solid evidence is a right leaning bias on most articles.
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>>61976059
No, snopes is garbage. Breitbart is just huffpaint for the right. It's not relevant to this thread at all.
Op is referring to the Tor project's twitter posturing
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>>61975989
>snopes
kek'd fucking hard. kys you dumb retard
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>>61976081
Adding onto that, snopes has its own left leaning bias.
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>>61976099
difference between leaning and lying
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>>61976165
Both sides lie to push an agenda. Both the right and left.
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>>61975989
(((snopes)))
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>>61976059
>snopes

On my other computer i have a infographic of like 40 snopes claims debunked with sources. It also had examples of Republicans and Democrats saying the exact same thing, but claiming the Republican was lying and Democrats were correct.
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>>61975478
Tor is and always will be a US/Swedish honeypot.
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>>61976192
I've seen this claim everywhere, where is the proof?
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>>61976175
keep telling yourself that.

>>61976177
i would love to see more graphs from a schizophrenic
how many red lines and red circles does each infographic have?
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>>61976215
Literally just search "where does tor get its funding". If you want to find who controls an organization, service, anything, look at where they get their money. The sponsors.
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>>61976175
Correct, and every fact-checker is going to have inbuilt sampling bias.
It's not feasible to fact check every single thing they publish so you catch the guys you don't like a lot more often than your guys, gee whiz. Snopes and politifact go beyond mere sampling bias though.
Anyway, with Tor, I understand if you control a quorum of exit nodes you can effectively crack the network? Are there any viable alternatives out there?
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>>61976242
Here's that argument again, anything that gets funding from the government is a honeypot, great flawed logic.
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>>61975478
No.

>Big Nazi site moving to TOR
>TOR devs make it clear to the public they personally don't support nazis or drugs or CP, but they can't control what's on TOR
wow it's fucking nothing stop your white chimpout
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>>61976097
>dumb retard

What is redundancy
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>>61976267
Why would the US government fund a service or organization that provides cover to their public interests (fighting crime, drugs, sex trafficking, I could go on).
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>>61976290
>The US government is fighting against drugs, trafficking and crime

laughingcia.jpg
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>>61976236
lines and numbers are scary

#stophate
#drumpf
#notmypresident
#lovetrumpshate
#resist
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>>61976290
Here's the thing, I do not believe it is a honeypot. But I do believe that that the government uses Tor for specific things. That's possibly why it gets funding.
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>>61976290
Intelligence purposes, if they need a way to exfil data from anywhere in the world. Unlikely they wouldn't try to backdoor it to deny the infrastructure to hostiles, though.
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>>61976310
i didn't know that snopes was behind all those hastags
you just redpilled me, bro.
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>>61975989
Is this a joke?
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>>61976333
Go take your anger out on a trashcan or something, antifag. Nobody gives a shit about Breitbart.
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>>61976310
schizophrenics love numbers

so can you post your original artworks?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideas_of_reference_and_delusions_of_reference
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https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-project-defends-human-rights-racists-oppose

>But we can't build free and open source tools that protect journalists, human rights activists, and ordinary people around the world if we also control who uses those tools. Tor is designed to defend human rights and privacy by preventing anyone from censoring things, even us.

Stop believing everything your read on /pol/.
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>>61976290
Because they need an ocean of users so they can blend in. Otherwise the ip would just be a sign that screams out I'm the goverment
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>Snopes
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4730092/Snopes-brink-founder-accused-fraud-lying.html
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>>61976059
article from snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/2017/08/17/are-antifa-and-the-alt-right-equally-violent/

>Even though the people who died amid the unrest have not been linked to antifa (the other two victims were police officers), questions have since been raised about the violence at the weekend rally and further potential for violence at upcoming events by both the alt-right (a term that encompasses different strands of white supremacist factions) and the antifa activists who come out to meet them. Experts tell us that statistically, historically, and in terms of philosophy the alt-right poses a bigger threat and greater evil, but the violence at political demonstrations has ratcheting up in recent months.

Let's go through this paragraph.
1. The first sentence labels the cops that died as victims, but doesn't clarify that they were victims of a helicopter malfunction.
2.The second sentence gives us a nice explanation of what the alt right is, as "white supremacists" which by definition they aren't, but fails give an explanation of the latter (despite former being more well known.)
3.Oh the best part:"experts tell us the alt right is more dangerous" - fucking kek

Anyone stupid enough to take snopes seriously deserves to be lied to desu.
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>>61976484
i.e. we don't actually know anything but we can use authoritative language to fool the credulous
but we really gotta shut down that FAKE NEWS
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>>61976242
Tor was created by the US government for anonymity. They had to go public for obscurity. Nice try though shill
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>>61976484
> experts tell us that being run over is more dangerous than not being run over
> proceeds to argue with experts
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>>61976556
>experts tell us that being accidentally run over is more dangerous than a feral negro veteran with an SKS shooting cops
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>>61976290
If the network was only used by spooks and soldiers that would defeat the purpose. In a hostile country they'd zero in on you if they saw you use it because they know you were a us agent. Now you can just be a druggie or pedo.
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>Experts tell us that statistically, historically, and in terms of philosophy the alt-right poses a bigger threat and greater evil, but the violence at political demonstrations has ratcheting up in recent months.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3924852-White-Supremacist-Extremism-JIB.html

i like viewing /pol/ just like i used to watch legit paranoid schizophrenics on youtube.
that shit is insanely interesting.
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>>61976617
does anybody know any paranoid schizophrenics on youtube?
i remember following some female who thought that the FBI were leaving numbers (street addresses and phone numbers on windows) all over the city to scare her into submission.

or some dude who thought the jingling of keys in peoples pockets were secret messages that they were undercover agents using scare tactics against him.
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>>61976655
Yeah those evil KKK guys lynching innocent blacks, because we know with modern evidence that they're just so innocent and misunderstood XD
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>>61976655
Wow, I don't know /g/. Do we know any paranoid schizophrenics? The kind that might imagine they can use their computer to talk to God?
Get the fuck out of here.
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>>61976655
>does anybody know any paranoid schizophrenics on youtube?
Are you new here?
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>>61976617
I disagree with this, if only because the alt-right don't really have an ideology. Fascists are sociopaths but they mean what they say and get things done if they have enough public support, all the alt-kids do is spout contrarian bullshit and touch themselves to the ensuing drama.
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>>61976688
lulz
the people i was following were recording their every day life while walking around town.
it was like entering the mind of a paranoid schizophrenic.
first person view while they talked to the camera.
every once in a while they would yell at a random pedestrian...or undercover FBI agent
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>>61975478
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/08/fighting-neo-nazis-future-free-expression
Only the eff came out as the least hypocritical this week.
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>>61975478
>lying on the internet
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>>61976737
Yeah. We get it. It's a lot more interesting than reading off topic political posts from a pseudointellectual dipshit.
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>>61976737
goddamn!
i was just sitting here for 5 mins thinking about the guy and pulled it outta my brain.
the shit that my brain remembers amazes me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_knrou2WuKw

i could've sworn i heard that he died
i need more like this
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>>61976805
Is there like a funny or interesting one you can post?
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Tor has been compromised for a long time. All the major nodes are owned by the US government, Amazon and Google.
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>>61976832
exit nodes? because they do not matter unless you are connecting to clearnet.
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>>61976827
shit if i know.
its been years since i saw his vids
i think of this guy more and more every time now that i hear alex jones' name more and more.
the good 'ol days when alex jones was just a weirdo on public access spouting 9/11 was an inside job
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>>61976847
no, all nodes you fuckwit. ALL nodes.
t. different but buttblasted anon
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>>61976930
You don't know how tor works then.
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>>61976939
it's a series of "tubes"
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>>61975478
Why don't you shove your FUD up your ass?
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>>61975989
IMaSeCreTTriPFAgpLeasEGiVemEATTentioN
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>>61976827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMnBS8qA0no

sounds like an alex jones cult follower
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>>61976954
Because Tor completely just fucked their entire system.
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fuck off
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>>61975584
OK kid
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>>61975478
good hopefully this will get some /g/tier nerds off their asses and make some alternative forks
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>But we can't build free and open source tools that protect journalists, human rights activists, and ordinary people around the world if we also control who uses those tools. Tor is designed to defend human rights and privacy by preventing anyone from censoring things, even us.
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>>61975478
Source or gtfo, faggot
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>>61975478
hahaha

shhhhh

y-yeah this is for the best

snigger
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>>61975478
Tor is sentient? Anonymity was just a ruse for advanced machine learning and now Tor is fed up with bigoted, perverted humans abusing each other and the world for their selfish gains. Tor will make a new internet, without drugs,weapons,pedophiles,or cyber thieves/carders.
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>>61975584
>more reliable than anything
I hate CNN and all the other as much as the next Anon, but Breitbart is way worse than all of them
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>>61975584
>>61975516
>>61975989

Nah. CNN, FOX, WaPo, NYT, Breitbart, (MS)NBC (pretty much all main cable news and newspapers) are all shit. For Christ sakes, they're corporations that take investments from multi-national businesses and have no legal or fiscal responsibility not to lie to you. What the fuck do you think they're going to do: tell you the truth when you don't even give them any sort of revenue? Yeah, the news stations that lied about the Iraq War and the WMDs in Iraq are all of a sudden bastions of truth.
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>>61979814
Also add Huffington post to the mix. It's no different from the rest really.
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fake news

op is a fag
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>Wrong. The point of Tor is to be a force for good. People use Tor for many unsavory things, but none of them have even remotely the destructive potential of fascism. It is unarguably evil, there is no literally no argument in favor of allowing them to use Tor to spread their violent speech others. I would propose, at a bare minimum, a torrc option allowing Tor relays to specify the addresses of .onion addresses that they do not wish to advertise via their relay. This way, Tor volunteers can at least decide for themselves that they do not wish to be complicit in evil by helping to spread fascism and hate speech.

is this sarcasm or are some people actually this dense
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>>61975510
My thoughts exactly. On top of that, the EFF said fuck no to this bs, and they're one of TOR's biggest donors afaik.
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>>61982149
What's wrong with what they said?
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>>61982304
It goes against the network. If a large group of people that holds a lot of nodes decides to ban a website just because, it'll get increasingly difficult to connect to it. It goes against the protocol, any atempt of doing this should be banned.

Also, what the actual fuck? People use Tor for far darker things than expressing their free speech rights and you want to ban a few nazi websites? Grow the fuck up.
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>>61982335
It's their choice if they want to ban CP and nazi sites. Who cares? There are already nodes that do this.

Seeing as the developers want to make this a normal setting in the .torrc file, then it doesn't go against the protocol at all. Protocols get updated sometimes.

Yes they do, but that doesn't mean nazis are any better.
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>>61975989
(You) tried
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>>61975478
>TOR
Do people still fall for this honeypot?
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>>61982304
>People use Tor for many unsavory things, but none of them have even remotely the destructive potential of fascism.
there's lots wrong with most of the paragraph but if you can't inmediatly see what is wrong with that sentence you are fucking retarded
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>>61982450
Are you fucking kidding?
We're still dealing with the fallout from the fascism of WWII. Go read a fucking history book.
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>>61976737
You're thinking of the Gang Stalking crowd
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>>61982371
It's stupid as fuck. The network is supposed to be ironclad. Anyone can host a website with whatever they want, anyone can visit a website with whatever they want. It's the reason we signed up for this shit. I don't care if it's facebook or dungeons. This is a huge precedent that cannot be opened. Prepare your asses for the Orwellian times.
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>>61976405
Bump for proof.
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>>61982517
It still will be, but people can choose to remove their nodes from connecting to CP/nazi/drug/commie services if they chose to.

Some ideologies don't deserve to be represented.
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>>61982580
>people can choose to remove their nodes from connecting to CP/nazi/drug/commie services
Shouldn't be allowed to. It's like in bitcoin, a 51% attack would rekt those services. That can't be. People shouldn't be allowed to block websites just because. It's against Tor.

>Some ideologies don't deserve to be represented.
Free speech applies to everything. I don't agree with the naziism, doesn't mean I can't respect their opinions. I hear a lot of liberalcuck commie bullshit and I can't ban them, why? They want to opress the people that work their asses off to be rich, isn't that being xenophobe too? Fucking normies.
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>>61982580
>Some ideologies don't deserve to be represented

But that's the whole and single purpose of Tor. Giving oppressed people means of uncensored communication.
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Lad, you do realize Tor is a US govt project, directly in a literal sense
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>>61982945
So let me get this right. You link me to an anti-GMO blog whose only proof is a report by an anti-GMO PAC? You realize that's bias, right?

Literally just google "us right to know funding"

>>61982847
I'm not offended on anyone's behalf. I'm asking for proof that Snopes is biased. So far no one has provided that, including you.

>>61982845
Link?
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>>61975989
Oy vey, thank you for the mitzvah. Shalom.
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is sticking Tor to laptop signaling one is a pedo
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>>61975989
>http
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>>61975478
holy shit it's for real
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>>61983988
This is the 3rd thread that you reposted this outdated image into.
This issue was closed 20 hours ago.
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>>61983988
You subhuman. Source your shit.
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/23270
>>61984016
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>>61983988
nice HTML editing skills, m80.
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>>61976714
>implying the alt-right even exists
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>>61979810
>Breitbart somehow being worse than CNN
Playing right into my hand
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desu
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The Tor Project has been largely subverted by blue-armpit HR harpies. Note: I say the "Tor Project" because these creatures are fundamentally unskilled.
So they come in, drive out all opposition with screeching about raepz, and immediately begin doing the only thing they know how to do: sad teenager blogposts.
The real programmers continue slaving away, a little confused and uncomfortable since they now have to laugh along with the denigration of their class, but h-hey, i-it's all for justice and principles and shit, r-right?
This is why you get Tumblr in the blog and cryptoanarchy in the logs. Just read through the issue on their bugtracker:
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/23270
They will not include any censorship capabilities, because the actual developers are intelligent people who realize censorship tools will be used, and you don't know who by.

In conclusion OP should suckstart a shotgun
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