>do IT at tech company >programmers are all condescending

Just ignore them. Sticks and stones may break your bones but words will never hurt you.

>>61944771
Guys give each other shit all the time. Don't be a pussy, just dish it right back at them.

>>61944771
>>do IT at tech company
do IT what? Tech support for offices or sysadmin?
There is a big difference

>>61944812
I set up and trouble shoot office computers and printers etc. And help employees if their corp mail or password or computer is messed up.

>>61944872
dont programmers and sysadmis usually do those kind of work too?

>>61944945
I was wondering the same thing. Why the fuck would programmers not know how to do that shit unless it's just time consuming I guess.

>>61944945
Not at larger company.

>>61944771
Fucke off nerd.

>>61944771
Face it, you're just the blowjob guy

>>61944771

Internal IT is a joke.

>>61944969
> Why the fuck would programmers not know how to do that shit
They know how to install a driver and print, everything else hardware- or network-related isn't their job.
>>61944945
> sysadmins
Depends. I started as a tech support guy, now I rarely do any office set-up, it's mostly servers maintenance and setup. Rather send out our new tech support guy than do it myself, because, you know, it's always nice to sip coffee and lurk 4chan when somebody is working instead of you.

>>61945044
>tfw my senior does this to me

>>61944771
Their jobs can already be automated. They are on borrowed time now. Hardware/IT will be one of the last jobs to be replaced by automation. Stay strong brother.

>>61944771
programmers deal with the same shit, nobody respects programmers either

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>>61944771
>tfw do what OP does and also do programming, program testing, business management and all the videos/images/animations the company needs because I also have a degree in animation and design

And I get paid less than a thousand euros a month! So don't complain OP, I bet you have a nice salary.

>>61944771
Just commit a suicide. Easy.

>>61944771
>WHY DOES NOBODY RESPECT WHAT I DO
because what you do is bullshit a retarded monkey could do

i know this because i am IT myself

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>>61944771

>tfw work at top tech company
>tfw i secretly look down at all the IT people

feelsgoodman :^)

>>61944771
I thought programmer is the bottom of the barrel of computers job?

>>61944771
Kill yourself or accept the fact that you're a failure

>>61944771
Ask them if they've ever had sex.

>>61946699
you need some modicum of skill to be a programmer

IT requires you to plug the rectangle into the rectangular hole and screw the blue cable into the blue port

>>61944771
>mfw reading their mail and watching their inane irc and slack conversations
>mfw purposely screwing with them applying the wrong gpos and stuff
I find it more hilarious how customer economic dept always complain, slightly tempted to replace all of their incoming payment accounts to my own but fuck prison and shit

>>61944872

So you're a grunt, basically. Unless you're in a very small company and you're the only IT guy.

You ARE on the lowest part of the totem pole. Just don't worry about it. You'll be an SA eventually.

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>>61945213
Are you fucking serious? Just ask them for more money, they are literally skinning you alive if you're not lying about your qualifications and actually do all that shit.

>>61946922
>>61946699
being the IT hardware guy has various degrees of competence. you have those newfags that think they're hot shit by installing a processor onto a motherboard and then you have the "veterans" that run multiple cluster servers with who knows what technologies and know a little bit of everything.

>>61944945
A lot of time you're not allowed to. And why would I waste time when I have work to do?

>>61944771
Lmao you're letting literal nerds bully you?

>>61945213
that's because you have an unrelated degree

It's better for you too look for a job where they don't focus on computers, like a hotel or a school, as long as you're the only guy who knows how to fix the printer.

>>61947539
I didn't lie about my qualifications at all. Next time my boss tells me he needs a corporate video I guess I'll tell him I wanna get paid extra because that wasn't in my contract.

>>61947710
I also have programming certs, otherwise I wouldn't be there to begin with.

>>61947730
Certs are not a degree.

>>61947759
So what, when they interview you for programming jobs they don't ask for your degree, they ask for code samples, a portfolio or test your programming skills themselves.
Degrees are a meme.

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>>61947789
>when they interview you for programming jobs they don't ask for your degree

>>61947803
It's true though, degrees are just a stepping stone, employers care more about your experience and if you did an internship than the paper that says you completed the degree.

>>61947809
Depends where and for what job.
In my country hell will freeze over before you get a job without a degree.

>>61944945
This isn't 1998 anon.

I work as an IT monkey. I get shit on my the people I work with and I get shit on twice by infrastructure's incompetence and attitude. Weird thing is the phone keeps ringing and the emails and meetings keep coming. People don't like asking for help and generally will hate anything associated with the weakness that they have

I write articles about IT for a magazine and get paid 55k gbp, which is about 70k usd

>>61947730
Man, just push for more, seriously. If they rely on you this much you NEED to let them know you're unsatisfied with the financial treatment, prepare some kind of speech about it, or write the points of contention on a paper and go from there.

You literally have nothing to lose - improve your life, man.

>>61944788
Words can break hearts ;_;

>>61945044
>They know how to install a driver and print, everything else hardware- or network-related isn't their job

i know many code monkeys that can't even fucking do that

>>61945111
This, pretty much. There is going to be a great deal of frustration when lots of people start getting replaced really really soon by bots or robots.

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>>61947861
>tfw 1998 born newfags are already job capable

>>61948009
>that pic
Xen.

>>61945213
Right there with you mate. Exactly the same situation.
If you're being taken advantage and don't have a future in the company leave, but only after you've got the paper experience for the next job.

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>>61944771
I found my first job and I work with some other IT guys. For the context, I'm kind of a super engineer, know everything, multiple specialities, studied management and social engineering too, a lot by myself while the other chads where doing parties and shit.
Guys with whom I work are like 20 to 30 years experienced, they just kind of know java and a bit of networking, and I see them learning how to do things I already know. They don't know git or Linux, just Windows and SVN (they think FOSS or Linux is a sect btw). While they are doing their shit, I'm doing all things related to embedded or what they don't know (c, cpp, rt, Linux, python, etc...). They earn twice my salary and they keep telling me how to do things although they barely have an idea of what I'm doing. They are not even my superior, I just listen to them talking dumb shit and ignore them telling they have some good advices or shit. (must have good relationships with coworkers)
But I don't know what to do more. And I can't really convince anyone to pombe paid more. (at least for now) The plan would be to make myself irreplaceable, the thing is I work in a very very big company and HR don't really know or care of who do what in divisions.

I work at a fairly large (~20000 employees globally) software company. I don't think anyone except new grads act like that or cares.

Weird man, I work at a big company as well and I enjoy shooting the shit with Helpdesk. These guys, in our company at least, have the most omnipotence and through the years I've seen them actually get the girls in the office as opposed to programmers who are huge nerds. I've always viewed their jobs as sweet fucking gigs, personally. You can level-up with a job like that as well, so keep that in mind.

>>61944788
Sticks and stones may break your bones but words will leave mental scars that never heal.

>>61948493
I hate that people think this now. The only reason people care about what anyone thinks is that they do in the first place.

Caring about other people's view of you is toxic

>>61948537
It's called a joke.

>>61948120
>(they think FOSS or Linux is a sect btw)
Because it is?
Have you seen the people on /g/?

>>61948562
But Poe's law anon.
There are people that literally believe that speech can be violence.
This world is fucked up.

>>61948537
Try growing up without friends.

>>61944771
Are you for serious crying right now? It gets paid way more than programmers on average plus you work on your hands and knees and all up in the ceiling like plebs.

>>61944771
>tfw no IT sissy fuckboi to bully with my dick

>>61944872
You're a glorified tech janitor anon...

>>61944872
>tech janitor looks very angry at us programmer superstars
>too lazy to check why the servers are offline again
>tech janitor can do it frequently so we pester him and remote reset the servers just for lulz
>remove IP from comp printer so tech janitor has work to do
>us programmer super stars has to brainstorm whats the next revolutionary UI or UX for our frontend but we just fool around to "look" like we're working

we had our shit before but we got it over by moving to a different company. if youre the tech janitor, be prepared to be shat on

>>61948578
>>>61948120 (You)
>>(they think FOSS or Linux is a sect btw)
>Because it is?
>Have you seen the people on /g/?

Yeah I've also seen major embedded systems running Linux. Such as weapons.

>>61948630
>It gets paid way more than programmers on average
no way

>>61944771
if your not bothered about your job then im guessing you have enoughtech savvy to acquire logins etc, wait till after hours and upload gigs of fucked up porn to colleagues terminals, throw in some cooky shit like print screen desktop and set it as wallpaper that kinda shit..mass email bosses "accidently from their terminals" sharing the freaky pr0n..its not that hard, im not even my tech guy at work and i know all admin logins and user email passes etc.

>>61948072
They hired me through a connection, I have prospects for higher salary. I was initially hired to just do programming there, but due to someone's absence we had problem and I offered to fix it myself because I knew how to. One thing led to another and I was basically "in charge" of keeping things working. Same for our corporate videos, I had previously done a freelance job for my employer for some video stuff and a christmas greeting card so he asked me if I could do it. I didn't think much of it and said yes to that as well.
Before I noticed I was doing the work of like 3 different people on the salary of just 1. Next week I'm going back to the office (I work remotely most of the time) and I'll talk to my boss about this whole deal.
I will gladly continue to do all the things I do because they are easy and I like them, but not for a pittance of a salary.
Fingers crossed.

The problem is that I got hired fresh out of my internship with little previous work experience and a tiny portfolio so I'm kinda in a tough spot, I can't just up and leave and expect to find a job quickly again, so.

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>Work in a software engineering company
>Co-worker is literally a blue haired, feminist with a nose ring whose contribution to projects is being constantly offended and trying to tell people what to do
>Everyone knows you have to walk around eggshells with her because otherwise she'll report it to HR and blog about how hard it is to be a female in tech
>Literally got help by some feminist tech group every step in her career
>Only got hired because our "diversity officer" threw a shitstorm about how our particular project didn't have enough women on it

You want to talk about "not fair" Anon?

>>61949231
>diversity officer
>gender quotas
>Google Vice President for Diversity

god i love not living in US

>>61947924
55k is a lot of money m8.

Even if you live in London that's a lot of money.

>>61949252
>Implying this isn't the UK

Literally cuck my shit up senpai.

I literally hate my job and have lost all motivation to work or even try anymore because of her. It's really fun and interesting, the second she walks into the room it fucking kills the entire mood. She threw a massive shitstorm the other month about how she constantly feels she has to "prove herself" because she fucked something up and another co-worker told her off about it. Everything is "As a woman in tech I feel like ...."

Fucking literally kill me. I can't even find another job that pays well enough for me to continue to live in London.

>>61944945
Maybe at a small startup where they can't afford many employees but usually no

AUTISM
FUCKING
BUX

>>61948729
You're forgetting the downside of programming.
>You have to work with diversity hires you dare not be alone in the same room with
>If you reach any type of status as a programmer, said diversity hire will leech off you, if they can't, the plan to back mail you begins
>Diversity hire will literally never face real consequences for this, worse that could happen is they lose their job
>They'll do fuck all for your team but still get promoted to some high pay nothing job
Programming in 2017 is awesome!

>>61949285
why are you letting her get under your skin this easy? is everyone there a brainwashed cuck?

Why do you care

>>61949383
What the fuck are you doing at work to be blackmailed with?

>>61949385
No, but HR and managment is. She ruins the working environment and makes it unbearable. Can't even say shit to her because you'll get in trouble, potentially get fired and then get blacklisted for being a "sexist" and never get a job in tech again.

Especially now with the "google memo" saying anything even remotely against someone who's female gets you labelled as an "alt-right Demore symphatiser" and that's it - you're out.

>>61949383
you must be talking about the chinks and indians huh

>>61949385
You're forced to wait for the them to get "promoted" to some made up job like "head of diversity" and pray that the next diversity hire programmer isn't as bad.

>>61949476
Poos you mainly just need to teach them the correct methodology. They do everything as inefficiently as possible, it's like a game to them. The real problem is women being hired just because.

>>61949422
>>61949488
Its fascinating how low we are fucking going.

Glad I live ina pseudo third world country where in my IT office, we're 5 men and 1 women and there is literally no tension.
We all do our job, we are behaving like humans, not fucking Hitler-tier approproiating pretentious cunts jabbing at each other for how we were born.

>>61949502
women are the bane in the IT department.

theyre the ones that gets promoted just as easily and they didnt even need to lift a single finger. beta programmer cucks will defend and do all her work just to get praised or gazed at

i swear, whenever i see a woman programmer or leader, i always fucking challenge their ideas and approaches.

fucking hoe doesnt even know how to crypto passwords in config files and decides to put them all in a single fucking readable table... i swear stupid bitches like her need to die

>pws in plaintext
isnt that day 1 fucking knowledge

>>61949784
whenever i see a woman programmer or leader, i always fucking challenge their ideas and approaches.
>programmers aren't sexist

IT people are easier to replace than software devs. And let's be real m8, a lot of them probably make more than 2x what you do. It's supply and demand. If you don't like it, learn how to program and get a job as a dev.

in tech the level of professionalism is worryingly low, it goes beyond banter.

>>61944771
As a 9001x programmer, I can tell you that most IT guys/"devops" are in fact "muh hobby" geek squad guys and deserve to work around the clusterfucks your average web programmer will leave for them. That being shitposted, you really want to decently pay the few actually really good ones - aka the ones that know their stuff and don't come up with retarded password restrictions and user right restrictions.

>>61947562
This, tier 3 virtual networks, virtualization clustering and super computers and putting up with shitty UNIX/WIN/proprietary server consoles.
But judging from /g/ OP is not one of them.

>>61950082
>This, tier 3 virtual networks, virtualization clustering and super computers and putting up with shitty UNIX/WIN/proprietary server consoles.
Or a good DBA, these have become rare, I'd guess.

>>61944771
>WHY DOES NOBODY RESPECT WHAT I DO

Because you have zero legitimate qualifications, you're a tech support monkey.

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>>61949231
I'm coming into my junior year of college looking for internships in programming or IT...

Corporate life can't be this awful can it? What the fuck is a diversity officer?

>>61950185
swallow it, because that's how tech in America works.

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>>61944872
>>61944771

>he graduated CS for this

>>61944771
because you're a filthy tech monkey
you don't make money for the company, they do.
you're no better than a janitor

>>61948120
you aren't supposed to appeal to HR. you appeal to whoever does your quarterly/bi-yearly appraisals (i.e. your boss). you make yourself irreplaceable to them and show your worth to them. if you aren't getting paid what you are worth and can't manage to foster the type of relationship with your superior where they would be inclined to listen to your request for a a raise then you walk. it's that's simple. don't do work for more than you are worth without a plan to bail if you don't get your due.

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>>61950185
>>61950318

It depends on whether or not you want to work in an IT department for a company, or a technology company. IT departments for normal companies can vary depending on the business, but generally they lack the politically-correct bullshit. If you work for a technology company, then you get diversity shoved down your throat. Take one of my old contracts, for example: http://sapientnitroblog.com/post/90644258348

I left because of it being overran by non-technical fags.

>>61949259
Thanks. I live in London.
10% pension too.
P gud. I got an engineering degree.

Fuck IT monkey work. Seems boring as fugg

>>61947562
>then you have the "veterans" that run multiple cluster servers with who knows what technologies and know a little bit of everything.
Thats not IT. Midrange guys are not IT guys.

>>61944945
A lot of times they don't.

>>61944771
>too dumb to program and stuck with IT
>deserve respect
>want equal pay for a much easier job

LOL

>>61944771
They wont be laughing in 3 years when drumpy leaves office. The only thing they will be engineering is soup in the soup lines.

>>61951987
Why?

Why wouldn't they just go abroad?

>>61944771
>WHY DOES NOBODY RESPECT WHAT I DO
Because you don't respect what you do.

And there's lots of IT, so if you're helldesk, it's time to branch out into something else. Operations perhaps?

> Sr. Systems Engineer
> Rack / cable / configure new deployments
> Fix active directory when 3 letter management breaks it
> Fix Exchange when patches break it or a DAG needs a re-seed
> Do powershell automation with SCOM / SCVMM
> Make 120K/US/Year
> Work from home 3 days a week
> On-call, but can skip work / come in late if an after hours call happens.

Expand your horizons, Anon...

>>61950398
Yeah that's the way it should be. The thing is, I'm in a very large company/group and salaries are more or less fixed with no high negociation margin. They look your school and that's it. (mine does not have a high value). I've pushed my boss so I could have a little more but he couldn't do a lot. I also know that my department also doesn't stand very well financially. Long story short.

>>61950185

When going for a job interview, ALWAYS take notice what kind of people work there and interview you, you'll get a really good idea what the atmosphere is.

Years ago i didnt use to do that and it bite me

>>61952738
I like you.

Memes aside. How is IT or any computer-related job? I'm starting College this fall soon.

>>61947827
USA?

>>61952738
This post is confusing me.

>>61951357
Give it twenty years so this generation of misandrists grow up and lose momentum as their membership gets older and without much influence on the younger generations to come. Like how hippies of the 60s and 70s became the businessmen of the 80s and 90s.

By then the concept of the Purge might actually be a reality anyways, if anarchists or altright have their way and chaos becomes commonplace.

>>61952738
> Make 120K/US/Year

silly valley numbers?
I work with people who do that for 50k and zero work from home.

>>61948537
>Caring about other people's view of you is toxic

We are herd species, humans seeks acceptation of their peers.

TFW computer engineer and secretly look down on code monkeys

>>61944969
>>61945044
In my experience the programmers don't do much other than that, many don't know how. 75% of the team can install new software and drivers, but can't do simple things like check the windows event logs when something on their client goes awry
Where I'm at most of them don't even understand the AD security groups that THEIR OWN TEAM made for their applications.

>>61945111
LOL, wut?

Sysadmins are getting automated away and programmers will be the last job around.

Why do I need ITs help when I can use AWS or Linode to spin up a VPS?

I don't need IT.

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>>61944771
>mfw a help desk ticket jockey complains

>>61944795
make fun of them for being c# javascript pajeets who will be replaced by more pajeets who work for minimum wage

>>61949285
Move to the North or Ireland

This shit is much less common up here.

If I were you I would deliberately fuck with her shit to try and make her job miserable and blame shit on her.

>>61944771
I was hired as a "tech janitor" two years ago opie.

A year later I became the sysadmin.

Now I jumped and am starting a devops engineer contract role at a big 4.

Just keep learning and jump when you outgrow the position.

>>61944771
Because what you do is easy. We could do it, but we don't get paid to do that.

>>61944771
Because you're probably some kind of insufferable and humorless sad fag like >>61948120 who is unable to read and/or hold conversations

>>61950185
I've yet to see a "diversity officer" listed as a functioning/active employee at a real company, and I'm in Jew York.

>>61945213
From what country are you? Because sure that money for the US is a joke...

>>61947539
...but depending on the part of Europe he lives in it could be standard issue.

I myself was hired as a programmer but I do technical support and some IT stuff for clients (not yet for the company infrastructure yet, but another programmer does).

I get paid 1000 dollars minus discounts.

I have no real degree though, just a shitty non-tertiary technician's degree.

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>>61956245
>mfw code monkey (and hate it) and no computer engineering degree in my country

>>61945044
>Employing programmers who can't do basic sysadmin.

>>61946922
>screw the blue cable into the blue port

>>61944771
programmers are calling IT?

what a bunch of faggots

>>61947923
>Being employed in a job where people literally expel their defecation on you

>>61944945
>dont programmers and sysadmis usually do those kind of work too?

Nope. Not if they can help it, and if the company wants to be productive. Their skills lie elsewhere, although programmers and sysadmins are commonly brought in if the problem involves things they manage.

sysadmins and programmers are often unofficial support for whatever group is right next to them. Sure, they'll get you on the network and setup your printer, because they can do it blind, and without eating up their time. But troubleshoot an MS Office issue? Fix your out of space issues? No. They've got real projects with real deadlines. and using them as support is a waste of company money.

>>61959390
>programmers are calling IT?
You can't expect the javascript artists working on your companies node.js based tools to know things! That would be oppressive to their free spirit.

>>61956149
the sooner you realize the world is full of cunts and enjoy your own life in whatever way you see fit, the sooner you become the happiest you have ever been and will ever be in your life.

>>61959390
>>61959560
Why would a dev know all the details or have the credentials to fix some issue with email or yubi key or company management software on his phone?

>>61944771
You do realize programmers can almost always do everything you can do too right? They just have additional skills that you dont that makes what you do not worth their time, which is why your function exists you retard.

Im being paid to write EDI feeds, not try and figure out why my land line phone that I didnt want or use in the first place since Im a millenial and have a fucking cellphone like everyone else, isnt working. If I needed my phone working I know it would take me 5 minutes to figure out if I focused all my time on it, so if it takes longer than that for you, someone who is only being paid to handle this specific shit, you bet your ass Im going to treat you like a retard.

>>61956245
lmaoing@urlife circuit monkey

>>61944771
Beat one of them into a pulp

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Almost every programmer I've met seems to barely know how to use a computer

I don't get it

>>61959857
What do you mean?

>>61944771
I got hired as an intern then got a full time offer starting immediately as my internship ended.

Have a shit degree from nowhere in IT, but get to do pretty much exactly what I want as a data engineer. Some operations + tooling work and a specialization in data engineering (ELK/Hadoop/SQL).

Getting some exposure to some neater stuff like Kubernetes/Prometheus as well, pretty nifty.

>>61949187
I suggest you ask for a reasonably high wage; they're expecting you give a high number so they can talk you down to a lower one. Negotiate a pay you feel comfortable with.

As for other anons saying to quit, just make sure invested some time with them. Like over a year's worth. If that really is your first job straight out of your internship it will look quite bad on your record if you quit shortly after joining the company. You don't want that; it's almost impossible to get hired in the field you want without a connection if you fucked up and quit/fired in only a few months. Also give them a 2 week notice or so. It looks better and gives the company time to fill your position; in other words, they won't be pissed and say shit about you if your future employer calls to ask about you.

cyber security almost always pays more then programming.
move up from your shit desktop support job and make some money

How easy is it to bullshit my way into an IT position.

I know how to turn my computer on

>>61948537
>Caring about other people's view of you is toxic

If act like you don't give a fuck about anyone, people will think you're an asshole and won't want your company.

>>61944872
lmao you're a tech janitor

leave the programming to the real men, kiddo

>>61944788
kek cuck

>>61959857
>be a programmer
>something is wrong with computer
>call in the support guy so that he can do his job and you can code on other PC for now instead of fiddling with it yourself

>>61959262
Spain, minimum wage here is 600€. I earn 800€.

>>61962352
this
It's not about knowing how to fix it. It's about time and resource allocation.
ITT butthurt IT plebs

>>61944788
lmao its like im reading fb posts

>>61944945
Carmack had to google how to erase the data on his HDD.

He wasn't even clever enough to make a program that writes garbage on it over and over.
Programmers are trained monkeys.

>>61945213
You need a good lecture:
https://vimeo.com/22053820

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>>61944771

>mfw reading ITT as a desktop support person

I have to go to work now, well at least I don't work for a tech company.

>>61960537

I've been in group interviews as the interviewer for IT jobs. If you have the experience and education, that doesn't matter. What matters if the people who are interviewing you like you. That is literally it, nothing else matters.

>>61944771
>>61944795
this, you gotta fire back at them to let them know what's up. Call 'em code monkeys at least man. eri Subtly fuck with their hardware and when they ask for it to be fixed, say "Sorry, Geek Squad is needed elsewhere-get to you later."

>>61963704

This right here, I like this guy.

>>61944788
Faggot

>be tech janitor
>Get $135 an hour to setup printers, install computers and generally minimal system maintenance
>Most work is when I have to replace an old server
>Literally going around right now and updating group policy for Windows update while browsing /g/

ez

>>61966083
the dream

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>>61944771
Tell them they have soft hands.
Ridicule them for their stupid problems.

'Code Monkeys'

Whenever they have an issue, find a way to blame their code, the IDEs they use, the fact that they probably visited some pajeet blog to copy / paste code, etc.

Remind them daily that they can easily be replaced by pajeet contractors for less than half their salary. (Bonus points if you mention that at least the code will be more reliable.)

Learn to code, mercilessly point out their mistakes.

Look up all the joke O'Reilly covers like pic related. Pick the most relevant ones and fire them off in emails occasionally.

C'mon, this shit comes with the territory. Infighting with the developers should be listed under the job description. It's line I'm doing your job for you.

>>61960590
wrong

I keep getting friend requests in Mario Kart even though all I ever send is "I'm outta here"

>>61944771
>have to live with fact that they're all making 2x as much as me
pretty sure they're making more than that you monkey

>>61944945
>Paying someone $50 an hour to replace the toner in the office printer
Not when you can get someone to do it for $15.

>>61944945
At a large company for this reason:
>>61966377

Hell a lot of the developers don't know how to do basic HTTPS tracing or install printer drivers from a disk, only knowing how to use a setup wizard. But it's not part of their jobs and they make $50+/hr while we contract people do to the grunt work for $10-$15.

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>>61944771
Whats the name of the person who mops or cleans your office?

I'm 30 and Ive been trying to get an IT job doing janitor shit forever. I think I should just kill myself really.

>>61947941
ok reddit

>>61944771
Seriously OP. Just make fun of their social ineptitude. They need you because they're too retarded to interact with people face-to-face. I know the type. Just call them out on their shit. Sure they might say "well it's an end-user problem" but I literally call them out on this all the time and guess what, it's something they overlooked on the back-end.

I seriously had one programmer type shaking and mumbling one time because he was made accountable to an end-user who was butt-mad at a particular back-end service he was supporting. It was absolutely hilarious.

KEEPING THIS THREAD ALIVE

>>61969010
are you OP?

>>61970351
nope just a guy who loves to shit on janitors.

>>61949864
most programmers aren't sexist until they have to work with women

>>61971803
why

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>>61944788

>>61950185
>What the fuck is a diversity officer?
A reminder that communism didn't die off a quarter century ago.