>Systemd is an exploit kit just waiting to be activated.

Topic: Systemd is not an init system!!
If someone characterizes systemd as an “init system,” you may safely assume that s/he is either utterly clueless or deliberately obfuscating the discussion. Calling systemd an init system is like calling an automobile a cup holder. Not even Lennart Poettering pretends that systemd is anything but the “Core OS” (sic).

What systemd is is an effort to re-create large portions of existing userspace (including login, job scheduling, and networking, just to name a few) inside a single process traditionally reserved for the sole purpose of starting *nix userspace. (Just in case it isn't clear, there is a huge difference between starting userspace (init) and being userspace (systemd).)

At the end of the day, how one perceives this re-creation of existing userspace strongly influences one's reaction to systemd. There are plenty of perfectly legitimate reasons to be troubled by this re-invention of the wheel; they range from the philosophical and aesthetic, to the technical and mechanical, even the purely political and brutally practical.

And that's part of the problem when folks start to “debate” systemd. Very few folks have the chops to think about, much less talk about all of these areas simultaneously. As a result, the discussion becomes fractured and disjointed, in what is literally the textbook definition of bikeshedding. Suddenly, a talking head who's never written a line of code in his/her life offers up an authoritative-sounding-but-utterly-bogus opinion on systemd's maintainability. Add in the fact that folks on both sides (including Poettering himself) act as if name-calling is a perfectly good substitute for empirical evidence, and the “debate” becomes indistinguishable from white noise.

Full story:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=120652&p=570371

>Linux is a shitty clusterfuck made up of thousands of autists arguing worldwide

More at 10.

>>61903152
Who will be King Autismus Maximus?
I don't know and I don't care. Indeed, I hope he never ascends to the throne, because the moment that one system achieves supremacy is the moment that system will start going to shit.

>>61903152
>a german globalist is the cover up, red hat paid debian to force systemd
fixed

>>61903371
well every major dristro implemented it even do their communities disapproved it very hard.
So something had to be happening behind scenes.

Maibe it was like this
>DRM laptops are coming and we are going to be the only ones managing the signatures so fuckers if you don't put this shit in your distro you will disappear in darkness

>OpenRC
>full-featured
Doesn't even have concurrency.

>>61903421
>well every major dristro implemented it
false. Only debian-based distros
PCLinuxOS, Arch, Manjaro, Gentoo, Chromium OS, Slackware are all systemd-free

>>61903481
Arch and Manjaro are using systemd. So is Fedora.

>>61903481
>PCLinuxOS, Arch, Manjaro, Gentoo, Chromium OS, Slackware are all systemd-free
>major dristro
this must be bait
also arch is not systemd free

Include a quick redpill explanation on these posts.

>>61903507
>>61903515
shoo shoo systemd shills

>>61903481
Arch is a joke distro, for the majority of Arch users it has no any effect whether it's systemd running the show or not.

>>61903521
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76935#c10
http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.special.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10999335
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1170765
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5998
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6214
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237

>>61903481
>Chromium OS
Android is also systemd-free

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Have a bump on me

>>61903573
grab it the overlords will delete this

>>61903549
>making corrections to a wrong comment
>BTFOO SHILLLS BOSDFSDF
go sleep kid

>>61903121
yeah ok

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>>61903604

>>61903152
Yeah, except that systemd is so shit because it's the opposite of "fragmented". It's a single point of failure that makes it extremely hard to avoid using if it doesn't suit your needs. It is an attempt to turn Linux into Windows.

"Fragmentation" is an epithet by morons that don't know how the real world works outside of middle management. Forcing everyone to do things one way is not efficient because bureaucrats are not developers.

>>61903658
2010: a german kid spent 5 years writing a sound server
2011: hired to develop systemd in 2 major distros

it's a scam

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>>61903121
>Linux

I would be more okay with SystemD if their modules weren't chosen at compile-time. It sort of defeats the purpose of modularity if you can only add or remove parts at the source and recompile.

The NSA outsourced systemd to Bangladesh's top coders, and Pottering is just the "family-friendly face" of the project.

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>>61904469
Hello sir
How may I help you today?