>2017 >listening to your music from a phone >he doesn't

give it back jamie

>>61874627
>hand-size touchscreen device
>can't make calls
What's the point?

>>61874627
i listen to 64kbps mp3 on my phone with $5 earbuds op

Oh goodie, it's another "I can tell the difference between 192Khz 32-bit FLAC and 320k MP3s" thread.

>mfw op is having nightmares in which he is offered a 128 kbps mp3 and 24 bit flacs and he cannot distinguish which sounds better

>The NW-WM1Z is fully encased in a high-grade gold-plated oxygen-free copper chassis. Widely used in instrument manufacturing, the copper lends the player its unique natural, acoustic sound. Its conductivity and raw strength reinforce the Walkman® with unrivalled audio performance.

my sides

I want to get a dap but

1. I absolutely hate managing digital music collections
2. So much of the music I like I listen to on soundcloud so in addition to not being able to stream via an app I would have to rip everything new all the time

>>61874745
Not op but theres many daps out there that run on android and let you stream and use apps. ofc alongside your local music library.
>>61874627
>not just using an iPod Classic

>>61874627
>not playing DSDs via a USB-OTG DAC
You done goofed, kiddo, sell your shit before you regret it.

>>61874627
lol, "DAP"

enjoy paying for your meme

>paying $3200 for 256 GB
>OP can't upgrade an ipod classic to 1TB and install Rockbox
Have fun paying 8 times what I paid for a quarter the functionality

>>61875315
>>61875606
iPC audio is mediocre though.
It's useable but not very good.

>>61875932
iPod 5 classic has a different DAC.

>>61874745
wtf do you listen to on soundcloud?

>>61875353
pretty much this - i have a 128gb iphone 6 and ordered a 40 dollar zishan z2 that can play DSD

those sony daps are waste of money but i will give sony props for LDAC - the only hi res wireless headphone standard at the moment

>>61874647
those mp3s better be transcoded at least several times

>>61878319
they sure are, you get that authentic vinyl analog crackle. Without it the music doesn't have a feeling to it.

>>61874660
In a few years when your mp3 degrades you will wish you used flac

>>61875932
Plug in your phone via USB

>>61874627
Cool, I'm enjoying streaming audio from my pc to my moon300D, mcintosh ma6600 integrated amp, and finally to my flagship Philharmonic 3s. Enjoy your headphone dac?

>>61874627
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZUvPQ6SN5I

My 10 bucks clip+ is just fine, thank you.

>>61874627
that thing weighs a ton
the lower model seems more practical and basically the same apart from muh copper and gold

>>61875977
Real and unique music that people make

If you support the industry that makes profits off kid idols I won't judge

>>61874627
Does it support spotify tho?

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>>61880477

>>61875977
Garbagio

https://soundcloud.com/shishitkb/likes

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>>61874627
I'm more than happy with using my psp instead. Been doing strong since I bought it years ago and still works wonders.
the screen may be cracked but you don't need a screen when you are listening to music.

>>61878423
fuck off newfag

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>be retarded enough to break my Sansa clip
>shit nevermind just gonna get a new one for cheap
>they are nowhere to be found as they were discontinued and the only ones for sale are ridiculously overpriced

>>61880738
Do you have a single fact to back that up

>>61880783
Use

Your

Phone

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>carrying zillion devices for zillion functions

>>61880996
Yes.
>haha i troll u xd
Or you're so incredibly stupid you think digital information degrades.

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>>61874737
That cracks you up? Have you even heard of Audioquest?
>As part of AudioQuest’s re-examination of HDMI cable design, specific attention was paid to maximizing the sonic performance of HDMI. Indeed, AQ’s HDMI cables push the sonic performance to new levels.
>AQ listens to each primary signal conductor in every HDMI cable to determine proper conductor orientation.
>On the top two HDMI cables, Coffee and Diamond, AudioQuest’s patented Dielectric-Bias System (DBS) polarizes the insulation on the five primary signal pairs, providing a drop in the perceived noise floor and an increase in dynamic contrast.

>>61880783

get a 4gb samsung gearfit2 and some kz-zs5 with bt cable

never

look

back

>>61874627
It better compose it's own music for that kind of money/

Also some chinkshit phones have better audio output than dedicated music players.

Daps are literally obsolete now, so its only logical to cater to the snakeoil/audiophile market. They're the only richfucks who still buy shit like this. The walkman era is over, but the nostalgia still somehow makes Sony double down.

>>61881019
>carrying one device that is expected to do more and more annually, while battery innovation stagnates and the phones keep getting thinner

epic. can't wait for 2019 flagship phones where i can watch a single 8k video, take one photo, and listen to 3 songs on spotify before having to recharge.

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>>61874627
>highres audio
>through shitty headphones
>in a noise car-laden environment
>to music that has been dynamically compressed to 0db

Sure buddy.

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>>61874745
soundcloud is literally 128kbps mp3, why even bother with a dap

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>>61874627
>paying 3k for a glorified mp3 player

>>61878423
If mp3 degrades, so does your placebo flac. Data won't change itself

>>61881189
If you scrape soundcloud you can get the originals. Also battery saving on my phone.

>>61880482
Holy fuck that's big compared to what I imagined

>>61881145
Funny, because I can do all kinds of shit on my Huawei P8 and the battery easily lasts all day long

>>61874643
>2017
>using phone for music
>22KHz ~ 44.1kHz at max
>terrible impulse response

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>>61874627
But I do famboi

>>61875606
Comfiest experience t b h

>>61875960
My 5.5 sounds remarkably good tho

>every high-quality DAP is android
why the fuck do I need to run a java virtual machine just to listen to fucking music.

>>61881873
>My 5.5 sounds remarkably good tho

absolute horseshit... i own one its almost 10 years old ... it sounds terrible... my iphone 6s sounds amazing... dacs, noise shaping, dc-dc converters op amps and all the other black magic have made big big gains in the past years and its in a phone and you wont hear about it because its all on some cirrus logic data sheet you will never see

>>61881639
more bullshit... my iphone 6s running 24/48 beats my a dap and dac i payed through the nose for only a few years ago

measurements and data:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/iphone-6s-plus-audio-quality.htm

>>61881219
How do i into scraping soundcloud?

>>61881639
>impulse response
Kill yourself.

which is the phone with the best sound?

>>61874627
>shitty PWM amplifiers and chinkshit SOC DACs
Give me a fucking break.

>>61878407
>>61874647
Mein Neger

>>61881639
Human ear effective range is 20hz - 20kHz
>Your Shitty phone can go over that your phone sucks!!
okay then

>>61882704
Very shitty bait

>>61882719
you mean, very hard science!

I mean what does flac actually do against data degradation?
it's just a file format, not a program
the file can't repair/change itself when it degrades

if you lose bits they are gone
you could only save the same file hundreds of times and compare and repair them manually if this happens
flac degrades just as fast as mp3

>there are people who don't know about data degradation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_degradation
no need to panic now but it still CAN happen

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>>61881048

>Or you're so incredibly stupid you think digital information degrades.

That's the joke

>>61882704
I can't hear below 100hz.

>>61874643
>2017
>make calls

>>61883000
I'd rather have worse hearing than better. I went to an audiologist because I thought I had tinnitus. Turns out I can hear extremely high frequencies. I hear high pitched noises everywhere. It's like every consumer product is designed to make noises to irritate dogs.

>>61874627
>I'm enjoying high res FLACs on my $3k Sony NW-WM1Z
WAV say's hello you fucking faggot

>>61882746
>not storing your music on a RAM disk with ECC

>>61883048
it is. whiny tvs and chargers are just the fucking worst.
>dude how can you stand this noise?
>"what noise, you're crazy, i don't hear anything"

>>61883079
my fucking thinkpad charger makes the worst high pitched noise that no one else can hear
I need to replace it man

>>61883231
I ended up selling my thinkpad for a macbook for this very reason. My pre Lenovo thinkpad didn't have this problem, but the MacBook was the only computer I found that didn't emit unbearable noises.

>>61878319
I transcode all of my MP3s to FLAC, then to WAV, then to Opus, then to MP3 again. Best way of keeping your tunes nice and crispy.

>>61883334
/g/ BTFO!!!

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>>61880482
Left - 1979 TPS-L2 - Right - 2016 NW-WM1Z

>>61883079
>>dude how can you stand this noise?
>>"what noise, you're crazy, i don't hear anything"

I'm just glad I'm not alone.

>>61883679
Here comes /hpg/ High Pitched General: Fruit Bat Edition

>>61883334
yeah but I don't like using laptops without a track point equivalent

>>61883950
You know. I thought I'd miss it because I have huge hands and was always getting erroneous palm inputs on a normal trackpad, but the trackpad on the MacBook is damned amazing. I don't think I've ever had a palm input in the six months that I've had it, and the tracking is second to none.

>>61883999
Yeah there I can agree with you. I've used mac books and the tracking is really good but I still don't like how inefficient it feels to me. Even if it's just a feeling I don't want to pay for something I'm not comfortable with.
I just end up charging my laptop in a different room.

>>61884133
You get used to it. Just like to OS, at first I was losing my mind, but as soon as I started reading up on it and got a package manager on the command line, I really started to like it, it's like a Linux distri with commercial software when you need it.

>>61881873
>My 5.5 sounds remarkably good tho

Mine sounds remarkably bad. I don't know what it is with it, I just never liked it. It's not like it was a faulty player either, since I have 2 (one was a gift a few months after I'd purchased the other) and they are equally shit.

>>61881240
Once upon a time people said "and the battery easily lasts all month"

>>61874627
Still use my model 1 Sansa Fuze and I prefer it over the clip because of how easy it is to just control in your pocket without having a look at it. The physical Wheel is really convenient.

>>61882936
I don't think it's better because bigger, the word on the street always just is mp3 is the old outdated proprietary format like jpeg which has notorious loss that is replaced by a robust format like webm or png.

I bought into all this bullshit with flac and open ear headphones and dacs and expensive sound cards. It's placebo bullshit. Yall are a bunch of hipsters that don't know how to spend your money. I still prefer the fancier option, but I'm not paying out the ass ever again.

>>61874627
You should consider enhancing your ears so that at least you'd be able to see the difference

>>61878515
LARPing this hard on some WATT/Puppies

>>61884839
Maybe I'm just plain lucky
Or my phone just sounds pretty bad (it's an S7 edge with the Wolfson DAC)

>>61874627
Whats the best traditional cassette walkman that also has an audio input jack and the ability to record?

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>>61874627
Sure, I want a modern DAP, but I hate it when they try to be like phones and have non-interchangeable batteries or limited storage capacity/slots.

Why modern DAP makers are so stingy with the storage or mSD slots is beyond me. Hi rez audio takes up a shitload of storage space and more is better.

>>61884909
Once upon a time handheld phones could only do one thing.

>>61881068
Those cables can literally recombobulate the dynamic soundstage diflation induced by long-term rotational velocidensity exposure

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>>61885015
found this fucka,dunno if it has those functions but its fuccin veggie playa even the spasticst needs of g/ can be fullfieled with this veganboy

>>61882936
That's what the
>>hehe i troll u xddd
part was about, you utter faggot.
Sure got me you redditor, upvoted!

All my music is YouTube rips anyway.

>>61885334
t-thanx m-mate

>>61883048
my right ear still picks up high pitched (20kHz+) noises, even though i'm nearly 30 years old.

Whenever I work on a laptop that's plugged in, and the house is otherwise completely silent, I can hear the charger go "EEEEEEEE".
I can literally hear when a laptop is finished charging (it goes "EE-EE-EE-EE" as it trickles power into the, now full, battery)

It doesn't matter whether or not the charger is original or if it comes from certain brands... I have experienced exactly ONE exception in my life; the charger for the MSI GT62VR laptop... my current main laptop... this one only has the 50Hz hum.

As a kid I used to hate my parents' CRT TV, since it had a really loud whine when it as turned on... the rest of my family would look at me as if I was insane since I was the only one who could hear it...

>>61885881
I had sensitive hearing (car breaks were the worst offender I heard all the time) but I've fucked it up going to bars and listening music too loud. Sometimes I miss hearing everything most times not.

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>>61874627

>2017
>he doesn't use master race PLEX for FLAC

I'm enjoying hi res FLACs on my old ass Note 3

My LG V20 has an internal DAC and works fine. Then again I also use skullcandy headphones, so there's that.

If audiophiles want to drop $3k on a player, $500 on headphones, and god knows how much more on whatever other snake oil, let them. A fool and his money are easily parted.

BRING ON THE BLIND TESTS

>>61886350
A bootloop buyer shouldn't be calling anyone fools.

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>>61885015

>>61885032
Irks me as well. And they all insist on muh touch controls and fuckhuge screens.
What's so hard about buttons?

I have an iPod classic. 160gb classic. Gen six, I believe. The fat one. For some reason, every time I get around 10-12 thousand songs, it crashes. I think there's a bad sector on the disc. I dunno, I'm computer dumb.
Anyways, I'm debating on getting a new player. I listen to mostly mp3s in 320. I need at least 120gb. I like the controls of the iPod. Before my iPod I had a Creative Zen Vision M and loved the interface and controls. I need physical controls.

Should I repair the iPod (only if it's cheap), or get a new player?

>>61875606
>Rockbox
meme

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>>61874627
>playback of maximum 10 hours
>meanwhile your average phone is capable of 40+ hours of music

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>>61881145
Its not 2006 anymore, retard

>>61881208
Except not. Mp3s the information isn't even there in the first place. Frequencies are replaced by white noise not to mention lossy formats continuously degrade

>>61881219
At full quality?

I understand some of the words in this thread

>>61874627
Hang yourself

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>>61874627
>3k
Lol no. If I had that kind of spending money I'd buy an OLED telly or something.
You can even get a pair of STAX SR-009 headphones from Amazon for a little less than $4k. And those are in all likelihood the VERY BEST headphones ever made.
I doubt the Sony can even compete with a basic Schiit DAC + amp set in terms of pure audio quality.

>>61881239
I think it's an optical illusion or something. It looks much smaller in >>61880477

>>61889296
You are right. It is much worse today

>>61889139
You can buy a logic board that uses flash memory instead of the old spinning hard drive. You can buy a board that has as many sd card slots as you want and load that shit up with any combination of cards you want. Also, lucky for you, the older ipods are really easy to crack open and modify.

I use a Fiio X3ii
The UI is absolute dogshit straight out of 2004, but at least it doubles as a PC dac/amp and the battery usually gets me through the week.

>>61882383
Python. SCDL or something of the sort.

>>61890400
Depending on scraping method it's whatever file they uploaded.

>>61891234
How hard is it to do?

>>61883048
Don't worry, in a few years you'll lose it like everyone else.

>>61891337
You use little plastic pry tools to open the ipod, disconnect some wires, take out the old hard drive, install the new logic board, slam in the sd cards, plug wires back in, close that shit up, then restore it and bing bang boom you got solid state memory in an ipod. It Also gives you a lot longer battery. Also the battery is pretty much that easy to replace too famalam. You're lucky you stopped at gen 6 because the newer ones require soldiering.

It's all *relatively* cheaper than buying a brand new mp3 player. Especially worth fixing up if you like the ipod interface since there aren't any non-apple brands that do it similarly or as well, in my opinion

>>61891410
muh autism won't let me not-continue this conversation so I'm just gonna dump some resources for you.

You can get the logic board from https://www.iflash.xyz/, and the battery from ifixit (you can buy cheaper shit from amazon, but it's a crapshoot since a lot of the chinkshit batteries, while they technically say the have the same capacity as the old battery, they've probably been sitting in a box for years and years, and have degraded so their lifespan is like 3 hours. ifixit has actual good batteries).

I hope you've found that useful.

>>61891410
I see. I guess I'll look into this. Hopefully it's cheap enough for me.

>>61891519
Is useful. My battery, despite me using it very regularly since December 2008, actually hold a good charge still. I can probably avoid that for now.

Thank you very much for your help.

>>61891758
No problem buddy.

>>61890695
>I doubt the Sony can even compete with a basic Schiit DAC + amp set in terms of pure audio quality.
Why do you doubt that?

>>61883633

godamn look at all those propriety sony connectors

no one does proprietry connector like sony

fuck you sony

>>61874627
Give

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>>61874737
How the fuck does a metal case make a digital media player sound better????

>>61874627

Someone find me a chinkshit producer of GOOD counterfeits of these so I can buy them for $100 and can list them on the Seattle craigslist for $1500

I will donate some of my profits to preserving the culture of /g/ and it's people

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>>61874627
Pic not related but a funny /g post on /pol
>hurr audio quality
A DAP is only needed to drive headphones that have a rating 300-600 ohm or they require a special kind of power (those electrodriver things).
Funny thing is that most of time these DAP create noise and distort sound because most headphones don't go over 300ohm so that means a software trick is needed and yeah "software trick", that is a bad word for audio quality.
>you aren't a audiophile hurr
I have worked with several kinds of audio equipment and the golden rule is: if the manufacturer says you don't need it don't use it, things like plugging the audio jack directly into an amp and not "clean up the audio mumboing" by using multiple devices is the worst way to do it.
>fuck off you nigger I bet you don't even have $4000 EURGMAAGOOODD MOM I AM DEFENSLESS
Fine you autistic shit, I will just listen music, 384khz 32 bit music on a Samsung galaxy s8 that only costs €700 and my dedicated "gold plated" amp in my pc ofcourse

>>61894966
By being snake oil for audiophools.

>>61896301
Small correction
The usage of a single jack is the best way small grammatical error ;)

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>>61874627
>he owns a ***DAP***
>he thinks he can hear any difference in outside environment
>he thinks he actually pays attention when listening to music outside
>he doesnt own an Apogee Groove™ portable USB DAC and headphone amp with a laptop when he travels
>he doesnt prefer convient bluetooth aptX audio when going outside

Lmaoing at thy lives.

>>61880783
Just buy one of the newer Sansa players. The aren't as good as the clip but they're good for sports.

does /csg/ have a rockbox capable chink dap yet?

or are they locking it down too much?

why cant the chinks just use open hardware that doesnt spy

>>61896459
When I have almost everything from this list but its a different brand (Samsung)
Btw aptX+ supports 24bit audio and with Bluetooth 5.0 it will support dual audio and 32 bit 384khz!
Bluetooth comfy masterrace

>>61896803
Forgot tripcode

I listened to one when I was in Ginza, it sounded bretty gud desu

>>61890695
>Telly
Aren't muslims forbidden from watching tv?

>>61874647
Is okay. I use a 500$ Audio Technica headphones to listen to my youtube rips. Fills my heart with a fuzzy warm feeling.

>>61875977
Never understood this myself either. Top "songs" are lame remixes of other popular music. The fuck is the point? "Hipster culture"?

>>61874627
>over 25
>being audiophile
Kek OP and so-called audiophiles. It's better if you start listening to hi-def music at the age of 5-10.

>>61896509
>does /csg/ have a rockbox capable chink dap yet?
No
>or are they locking it down too much?
That's not the problem
>why cant the chinks just use open hardware that doesnt spy
There is no open DAP design

>>61886350
>buys a fucking LG phone
>calls anyone a fool

bro just don't

>>61897196
Then stop at 24?

I got a cheap ass xDuoo X2 because I was tired of being rendered phone-less every time I got passed the aux at social gatherings. Sound is great and so is battery life, screen and software not so much. Happy with it overall.

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>>61874627
a-a-a-am i cool yet, /g/?

>>61898834
>ATJ player
No.

>>61880597
Get a new screen man. They still sell em on chink sites.

>>61874627
Im not gonna lug ANOTHER device around all day
smartphones being these fucking bricks is hell enough on my pockets
where is my tiny dumbphone i can put into the lighter pocket of me jeans?

>>61900016
HTC Mini+ clones from chink.
Or chink creditcard phones.

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>Mod iPod Classic a 1900mAh battery
>It doesn't charge
I still don't know why

>>61902818
It doesn't charge because you fucked with it's battery.

>>61902871
But the battery was made with iPods in mind.
People have confirmed it works.

>>61881873
what's the battery life like?

>>61878319
Even better, they're mp3's recorded on a cheap chinese feature phone by holding them close to a speaker playing the song

>>61898834
you're dodocool, anon

>>61874627
show me a good one that has at least 128gb storage, long battery life, and flac support that's under 200 claps and I'll consider it

>not just using a cracked spotify premium apk

the autists in this board baka

>>61903415
>not using a better device

>>61903342
Mod an iPod Classic