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Is it possible to run a current version of linux without systemd

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Is it possible to run a current version of linux without systemd botnet?
>install gentoo
no fuck off
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uninstall systemd
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>hidefagging over critical OS components like systemd
Get help
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Check without-systemd dot org
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http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
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>>61861056
How do I upgrade windows 10 to windows 7?
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>>61861076
run windows 7 VM in full screen mode at all times
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>>61861073
>>61861075
thanks
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>>61861039
install gentoo
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>>61861039
>implying Gentoo isn't unironically the best non-systemd distro out there
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>>61861101
Waiting on everything to compile kind of sucks though
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Last I checked make and make install worked with the kernel sources without systemd.

faggot
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>>61861101
Gentoo also has the best systemd support.
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>>61861039
Install cloverOS
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>>61861039
You can install Arch without systemd.
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just installed a fresh gentoo on my desktop

feels so fuckin good
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>>61861111
>quads
>wasted on a fucking trip fag shit post
You are literally the worst trip. Filtered, and fuck off.
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>>61861039
install AntiX
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>>61861110
Sounds like CloverOS is the distro for you.
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>>61861392
Whatever you say rainman.
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>>61861071
>hidefagging over critical OS components like systemd
>critical OS components
>critical

That's the fucking problem, systemd WAY oversteps it's boundaries and loads of shit made by lazy devs depends on it.
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>>61861039
Instal PCLinuxOS
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>>61861039
you know there is void linux that uses runit
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>>61862038
i just installed void and bricked it in less than 2 mins.. it's a pile of shit..
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It's open source retards. If you don't like it propose an RFC
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>>61861039
Just use systemd, it works perfectly fine.
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>>61862266
>Just use windows 10, it works perfectly fine.
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systemd is a issue from two aspects

1. it is licensed lesser gpl which is more akin to bsd or mit.
2. its reach has far expanded the original intention and that was one of the critiqued arguments and promises

it was promised as a simplified init system and now everything from the graphics stack to the audio stack has dependancies.

if you manage to remove systemd you still have to worry about dbus, pulse audio, and libsystemd
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>>61862332

>Just use windows 10, it works perfectly fine.

This shit, if I don't like it, it's 'Windows 10!', how about you try to actually make a logical argument ?

You must be a Gentoo fag
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packages which depend on libsystemd.
i cant even post systemds itself without reformatting because it hits a post limit
ceph
dbus
device-mapper
dhcpcd
docker
gnome-bluetooth
gnome-settings-daemon
hatari
higan (requires libudev.so)
libatasmart
libgsystem
libgudev
libudev0-shim
libusb
lvm2
mariadb
openvpn
pacredir
parity
php-embed
powerdns-recursor
procps-ng
python2-systemd
python-systemd
retroarch (requires libudev.so)
rpcbind
rsyslog
snap-confine
strongswan
systemd
usbip
util-linux
uwsgi
weston
xf86-input-evdev
xf86-input-vmmouse
xf86-input-wacom
xf86-video-amdgpu
xf86-video-ati
xf86-video-intel
xf86-video-nouveau
xf86-video-openchrome
xorg-server-xephyr
xorg-server-xnest
xorg-server-xvfb
xorg-server-xwayland
strongswan (make)


at the very least why does Xorg input and video depend on libsystemd?
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Void Linux. Has binary packages, bleeding edge, and runit instead of systemd.
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>>61862360
gentoo uses systemd u faggot
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>>61861039
http://ix.io/yqr
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>>> ARCH WITHOUT SYSTEMD <<<
============================

1/ https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/runit/
> makepkg -cirs

2/ runit 1 2 3
check either ignite, void or obarun github for boot scripts BEFORE you restart

3/ re/boot with kernel parameter
init=/usr/bin/runit-init


4/ now you can safely get rid of lib/systemd and libgudev
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/eudev-git/
> makepkg -cirs
done

5/ get most of these
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=nosystemd
>mine for reference
pacman -Qqs nosystemd
dbus-nosystemd
libpulse-nosystemd
libutil-linux-nosystemd
mkinitcpio-nosystemd
procps-ng-nosystemd
util-linux-nosystemd
xdg-user-dirs-nosystemd
xorg-server-common-nosystemd
xorg-server-nosystemd


>troubleshooting libsystemd.so.0 error
rebuild using aur or abs disabling lib/systemd flags
>notable mentions
qt5-base mpv - both have aur pkgbuilds
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>>61862389

Nearly none of these packages require libsystemd, they require libudev, which is packaged with libsystemd on Arch because Arch devs only supports systemd.

You can use libudev without systemd, and if you can't stand that they exist in the same repo, you can use eudev like crazy Gentoo fags do.
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mfw all these packages are installed on my openrc gentoo
app-pda/libusbmuxd-1.0.9
dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.108
dev-libs/libatasmart-0.19-r1
dev-libs/libdbusmenu-qt-0.9.3_pre20160218
dev-libs/libgudev-231
dev-libs/libusb-1.0.19-r1
dev-libs/libusb-compat-0.1.5-r2
dev-qt/qtdbus-4.8.7
dev-qt/qtdbus-5.7.1
dev-util/gdbus-codegen-2.50.3
sys-apps/dbus-1.10.18
sys-apps/util-linux-2.28.2
virtual/libgudev-230
virtual/libusb-0-r2
virtual/libusb-1-r2
x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.10.5
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>>61862544
meant to quote >>61862389
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>>61862399
gentoo uses openrc by default

>>61861039
slackware uses initscripts but I imagine you don't want to use that. bedrock comes to mind, and you can make it do pretty much anything you want . I can't think of any mainstream distros that don't use systemd though.
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>>61861101
>>implying Gentoo isn't unironically the best distro out there
ftfy
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>>61861110
>Waiting on everything to compile kind of sucks though
if you set up portage right you can run several jobs at once, and take advantage of your multi-core system
t. guy who just compiled firefox and it didn't take all night
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>>61861039
Slackware.
Systemd-free for 24 years.
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>>61862851

Because it practically hasn't updated in 24 years.

Not that it's 2 users really care.
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>>61862544
>"It's just a init-system"

That's what they said.
We believed them.
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>>61862892

No, it's an attempt at standardizing the low level userspace across Linux distros, which in turn is why it has seen such enormous uptake.
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>>61863123
windows is pretty standard..
why even waste your time with systemd?
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>>61861039
Install Solus.
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>>61861039
https://devuan.org/
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>>61863146
fuck off kevin
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>>61862389

>he thinks his distribution having dependencies means it's a required dependency upstream

This is the type of retard that posts on here. That's the type of retard whose idiotic, IQ lowering posts you have to bear with when you read posts on here.
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>>61862389

>python-systemd depends on systemd
STOP THE PRESSES

>at the very least why does Xorg input and video depend on libsystemd?
It doesn't you fucking retard. Disconnect yourself from the internet you idiot.

https://www.x.org/wiki/Building_the_X_Window_System/#index2h2
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>>61861606
I haven't heard of firefox developer edition Intel i saw this image and got extremely interested in it
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>>61862226
im hoping to install that as my main distro soon enough. been fucking with it using virtualbox. i finally figured out how partitioning works and it feels gr8.
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>>61861039
May I suggest funtoo? fun fact!
on funtoo you don't actually have to compile your own kernel you can download a haswell/ivybridge prebuilt one
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>>61861039
You can install Slackware.
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