Give me a single GOOD reason why I shouldn't buy a 2017

>>61762216
i don't have a single one. Max the RAM out and you're good to go.

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>>61762216
You can't play the goty on it

Desktop OSs are obsolete, better get an iPad Pro

>>61762239
Eh, not really interested in assfaggots

>>61762216
i got a touchbar version with maxed out ram. its great. do it m8

>>61762395
Prove it.
Apple shills on /g/ are getting ridiculous

Why are you making this thread? Nobody cares what you purchase.

>>61762216

Can't do it. Love my 2014 macbook pro.

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>>61762216
No touchscreen
Intel graphics
Dual core
Soldered together piece of trash

>>61762239
Bluehole who made PUBG are retarded south- Korean kunts I wish the game was never made now

>>61762216
no ports

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>>61762216
It throttles.

It throttle with the fans set at max speed.

Any kind of substantial work leaves the thing crawling.

>>61762216
>even considering buying mac
AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

>>61762216
Get it by all means. The laptop is comfy and the OS is comfy too. Just don't get it if you're planning to play games on it.

>>61762498
what skyrim mod is that

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>>61762520
.001 poo has been deposited in your loo, Ranjeet!

>>61762562
Am I wrong?

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>>61762216
What's wrong with the touchbar?

>>61762577
Comfy for a braindead feminist nbc executive black lives matter activist.

>>61762595
Highly useless and serves as nothing but an extra battery drain.

>>61762606
The whole device in itself is useless. The entire company is a piece of shit

>>61762216

we build them in our IT department sometimes. They're hot garbage machines tbqh.

>>61762321
Godsun?

>>61762630
>Build
>2017 MacBook pro
I have news for you, anon.

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>>61762613
>Look at how non-normie I am. :^)

>>61762671
I'm non COMMIE. Apple users willingly eat steaming proprietary shit from Tim cooks diseased ass.
Your only argument is that I'm a neckbeard fedora reddit newfag.
>Using the smiley with the karat nose

>>61762654

I meant imaging, sorry for the confusion.

>>61762595
The touchbar would be great if it didn't replace the F-keys.

>>61762216
I'm happy with mine. Using it for work, not school though. Touchbar is useless, but touch id is super useful. It's super portable, battery is ~ok, and display is just amazing.

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>>61762216
Look at the Razer Blade 4K.

https://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade

* Display: 14" 4K UHD, 16:9 Ratio, 3840 x 2160, capacitive multi-touch
* CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ Quad-Core Processor with Hyper-Threading 2.8GHz / 3.8GHz (Base/Turbo)
* GPU: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 (6GB GDDR5 VRAM)
* Chipset: Mobile Intel® PCHM 100-series chipset, HM175
* Storage: 512GB SSD (PCIe M.2) / 1TB SSD (PCIe M.2)
* RAM: 16GB dual-channel onboard memory (DDR4, 2400MHz)
* Networking: Killer™ Wireless-AC 1535 (802.11a/b/g/n/ac + Bluetooth® 4.1)
* I/O: Built-in webcam (2.0MP), Anti-ghosting keyboard with Chroma backlighting, Thunderbolt™ 3 (USB-C™), USB 3.0 port x3 (SuperSpeed), HDMI audio and video (4K at 60Hz) output

>>61762739
Where do these Apple product bots keep coming from?

>>61762784
>only paid shills can like an Apple product

That's a lot of paid shills, then.

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>>61762796
I recommend this great drink product for you.

>>61762216
I tried it out at an Apple store. The keyboard has literally 0 travel, it's like typing on a tablet.

>>61762418
i dont need to prove anything to strangers on the internet lol. also im too lazy to post pic. i still have a desktop for gayming and my x301.

ill expand my experience though and say i only use it for audio recording. no idea what OPs needs are but there are MUCH better systems out there for people than the new macbook pro. i only moved over because ive spent years with win7 on an x301 and had a brief moment where money/cost was not a factor. im agnostic about OS if the user knows their needs and best way to address them.

one criticism i can give is the finder and overall app organization gives one a false impression of where files are stored on the drive. and most of the native apps are useless really. i do not know why someone would need ibooks when it just opens pdf up in preview. or why one would need the photo app when they could use image capture. its a very pretty machine but something about windows 7 on a pc just feels..."snappier". i was worried about the touchbar and USB c. both are new things and apple is historically bad with new things. but the touchbar has worked fine (except in 2016), and i only need two dongles which isnt a big deal to me. photographers seem to have gotten fucked the hardest on this ports switchover. im not sure how the throttle has been but i admittedly am a light user. audio is not the most heaviest task to give a computer except in rare occasions. no virtual machine autocad for me. as funny as somebody buying a 2500 dollar macbook to browse facebook and reddit is somebody building a i7/64/raid pc to shitpost and have 2tb of ecchi.

>>61762216
>No touchscreen
>Intel graphics
>Dual core
>Thermal throttles under full load
>Fan sounds obnoxious
>Costs way too much for a dual core that throttles
>Only usb c so youll need loads of dongles
>Repears cost a kidney

>>61762849
>No touchscreen

How is that a bad thing?

>>61762849
Don't forget
>Glued together
>Aluminum bendy laptop
>Proprietary bootloader, os, programs
>Soldered together, can't upgrade storage
Stay street shitting, Apple FAGGOTS

>>61762737
hold down the function key and it'll display the keys. it definitely feels off to not have the immediate button pressing feedback on the escape key though

>>61762216
You're already going into debt by going to grad school, why make it worse by buying more laptop than you need to write papers or compile small python programs?

>>61762877

Also the keyboard is super loud.

>>61762216
You're poor.

>>61762577
Yes, the computer and the OS themselves are fine but the 4 USB C ports for I/O are r*tarded.

>>61762216
dongles

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>>61762216
Get one of these it has superior oled screen

>>61762918
I won't deny, it's garbage, but didn't Apple do sort of the same thing when CDs were starting to become a thing?

It is retarded that they force it so much but pretty much every newer device that comes out now has a USB C port, whether it's Apple or Samsung or anyone else.

What is downright stupid however is that the iPhone 7 has no headphone port.

>>61762595
Would rather have my function keys
>>61762778
Ill look like a faggot in public though. And I get muh Unix shit on macos, doesn't seem like linux works too well on the blade
>>61762819
they feel like cherry blues in a compact form. I much prefer them to shitty spongy ultrabook keyboards that also have no travel.
>>61762892
I unfortunately need either windows 10 or osx. I could buy a shitty laptop every year and have to suffer with the former, for get a decent Unix os and a laptop that should last at least 4 years. When it gets old and aplel drops support ill just replace the battery and by then the linux kernel would support the machine.

>>61762918
Anything you would need a dongle for usually requires the laptop to be stationary anyway, so it's not like portability is an issue.
On the upside a USB c can turn into any port that you need, it has very high bandwidth and you dont need to plug shit straight into the laptops mobo for egpu

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>>61762778

>>61762987
I hate to say it friend, but you're going to be in debt for the rest of your life. Your attutude says it all - you think that there are only two options, spending money on "quality" or on a piece of junk. The reality is there are a large number of affordable laptops that will suit your needs. You have just convinced yourself that you need an expensive macbook when in reality you just want one. This is how poorfags think.

>>61762982
I know USB-C is the future but this "Let's inconvenience everyone and shove everyone where they don't want to be"
>>61763037
You can't rationalize lacking necessary ports my guy, I love USB C but this shit is too much of a sacrifice.

>>61763062
What necessary ports?
If you're talking about flash drives or whatever just shove one of these on it and you're good
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01AUKU1OO/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1502034426&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=usb+c+adapter&dpPl=1&dpID=41dmfbSi02L&ref=plSrch

>>61763117
I mean,
>USB A
>HDMI
>Ethernet
no dongles are satisfying me m8, I can always forget them. I want my expensive laptop to have the ports I want my man. 2015 Macbook was the last one.

I managed to get a 2015 Macbook Air for 500€. Shit's super lightweight and works great for what I need. I have a custom desktop PC at home that I use for gaming but for everything else I use this little baby and it's incredible. Wangblows pajeets BTFO

Because the 2013 mbp was perfect and nothing has ever come close.

>>61763164
The 2015 had staingate and it would be dumb to buy one now, since they're only fixing it up until 2018
>>61763164
Again, you wont be moving around your monitor or router, so you just leave that plugged in. Similar to the docks that business laptops used to use. I think it's a pretty elegant solution.

>>61763247
>>61763250
Samefag gtfo you retarded appleposter

>>61763293
Shut up you MicroKEK

>>61762216
this thread has got to be the only true constant on this board for the past 6 years I've been here

>>61763057
He is right though.
You can buy a shitty Acer or whatever every year or just suck up the one time purchase of a nice machine.
People tend to keep their Macs for at least 4 years.

If you're a thinkfag though you can fuck right off. No self respecting person should put up with 1366x768 or have to use those ugly shits in public. The only people I see using thinkpads at my uni are pajeets and people look at them in scorn.

>>61762216
Apple hardware is designed to fail.

>>61762438
>2017-1+1
>touchscreens

>>61763508
The thing has no fucking moving parts other than the fan.
Their obsolescence model is software based, and by the time that happens the linux kernel has full support. Check out the last gen Macs for example, they run linux ootb

>>61762216
Sage and report shill threads. I don't give a shit what are you going to buy.

>>61762978
Can its performance really match that of a MBP though?

>>61762987
>Ill look like a faggot in public though.

I don't think anyone will actually care about what laptop you're using.

>>61762498
meanwhile that Thinkpad doesn't have any issues with throttling because it's slow to begin with.

>>61762841
>"i dont have to prove anything, hurr durr"
>writes a fucking whole fucking book about his fagshit macbook

I just got aids from you

>>61763713
My professors will. It simply doesn't look professional

>>61763685
There is also a book version
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834132167&cm_re=samsung_galaxy_book-_-34-132-167-_-Product

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>>61763832
If you think your professors will be offended by the rainbow-backlit keyboard, you can simply switch the color to something else like white.

>>61763871
I was talking about thinkpads.
How would I get rid of the faggot logo on the cover though? Black duct tape?

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>>61763274
>Again, you wont be moving around your monitor or router, so you just leave that plugged in. Similar to the docks that business laptops used to use. I think it's a pretty elegant solution.
wrong, it's the least elegant. I want to be able to sit down, plug into the projector in class, finish my presentation and leave. No dongles or adapters. miss me with that gay shit

>>61763909
S K I N
but the issue is the highlight green USB ports.

>>61762216
>2.0Ghz
>1 USB port while charging

Get the 2015 mbp, faggot.

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>>61762216
Worse performance than $600 Walmart laptops.

>>61764065
So you'd rather have a giant VGA port on your machine that you'll only use once or twice?
You would trade in convience for the lifetime of the machine in terms of lightness and portability just so you dont have to carry a tiny USB c to VGA adaptor (that you'll only use once anyway?
The fuck is wrong with you?
>>61764084
SStaingate and why pay over a grand for a machine thats been sitting in a box for 3 years?
>>61764098
I love how /g/ sperged out over the core m macbook but sat the fuck down when it was shown to be faster than the full voltage core2duos and first gen I5s in their shitpads.

>>61764165
I love how mactoddlers defend their $2800 piece of shit performing worse than $600 walmart trash.

You should. It's a good laptop and I was a major Apple hater a few years back.

Only real thing is if you want to play games on it, you should get something else. If you're even considering one though, you probably don't, so go for it.

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>>61764084
>throttlebook 2015
lmao

>>61762216
schools are pleb tier and use windows and open source programs making this devices a pour choice, YES it can run windows but goof luck with the palm rejection

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>>61762216
>2006-2015
>trackpad impossible to click near upper edge
>extremely loose near bottom edge
>overall flimsy diving board piece of shit
>even applel admitted it's shit and went back to solid non-click touchpads
>still has no real buttons
>relies on pressure sensitive gimmick bullshit
>if you press too lightly or too hard it does something completely different than what you intended
>shit tier 1mm travel chiclet kb
>OSX is a steaming pile of shit with horrendous battery management
>applel's solution is to cram in a massive heavy 95WHr battery to make up for it
>even XXXTREME GAMER cancer like razer blade with 4X the CPU/GPU power and 70WHr battery matches it in battery life in same tasks
>gets BTFO by 55WHr Yoga 2 in battery life in same tasks
>the battery takes up the space where a cooling system would've been in a laptop not designed by the world's thinnest and lightest gay hipsters
>overheats constantly from abysmal crippled cooling system
>throttles to 800mhz due to chronic overheating problems
>retina meme for "pros" have have <70% aRGB
>gloss mirror coating impossible to use with overhead lighting
>blurry as shit retina meme scaling
>shitbook air even worse with glossy 1366x768 TN eye cancer
>systemic battery explosion problems for over a decade

>2016+
https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/03/2016-macbook-pro-thunderbolt-compatibility-issues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o
>can't use any existing TB3 devices
>can't use USB and wifi at the same time
>ultra shit tier zero travel kb
>keyboard louder than WWII cricket
>memetouch emojibar
>no USB-A
>no escape
>soldered ram
>soldered SSD
>tamper tape on battery screws
>applel falls for their own thin meme and uses 54WH battery
>2 hour battery life

http://www.howtogeek.com/198043/how-to-merge-folders-on-mac-os-x-without-losing-all-your-files-seriously
>it's 2017 and moving folders around in finder will STILL cause massive data loss

>macshit is good
Can we finally put an end to this meme?

>>61764165
>So you'd rather have a giant VGA port on your machine that you'll only use once or twice?
VGA isn't GIANT you fucking twig.
>You would trade in convience for the lifetime of the machine in terms of lightness and portability
my fucking netbook has a VGA port and weighs less than two pounds. I don't have to compromise for your fucking toys. If I'm paying upwards of 2000 USD I expect some fucking I/O that doesn't require me spending more money on iAdapters™. Shill your shit elsewhere faggot.

>>61764569
You netbook also has a shitty atom chip
>iadaptors
USB c is standard you cretin

>>61765014
>You netbook also has a shitty atom chip
Yet BTFOs your crippled throttlebook's i7. LMAO@URLYFE

I have one and its great except for no io

buy cuckbook
>enjoy for however long you like, resell for 80% of original value
Buy anything else
>baby the fuck out of it, sell it in "like new" condition for 30% of what you originally paid (if you bought a popular winblows labtob)


Seems pretty obvious to me...

>>61765088
Which one do you have anon? How is the battery?

>>61765179
About 3 hours doing anything.

>>61764286
mactoddlers will defend this

>>61764569
:D there are usb-c to x cables for dirt cheap, fagit.

>>61764286
>trackpad impossible to click near upper edge
Lol this copypasta again

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>>61762239
>No Man's Sky 212,321

>>61765257
Lol this damage control again

>>61765257
A mactoddler has defended this. >>61764286

Is the xps better than the new macbook pro?
They're basically the same price

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>>61765599
About 4x better. 2x faster, 50% price.

>>61762216
USB-C is really inconvenient right now. The USBC defense force will tell you that its the future and whatever but its a massive pain in the ass. I have a Dell XPS13 which has 1 TB3 connector and 2 USB-A ports and I still find it really inconvenient.

Other than that the laptop is probably fine.

>>61762882
That's not what I mean, the touch bar should exist in addition to the F-keys.

>>61765837
Just to clarify I want:
2 external displays + ethernet

There's nothing that does this that's under like $400. If I get lucky, monitor manufacturers will start to release USB-C devices that support ethernet and USBA breakouts, AND support USB-C daisy chaining for more monitors

BUT thats going to cause a god damn fortune

>>61762216

Maybe your parents will get sick of paying for overly expensive toys?

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>>61765643
The autodimming screen is a real issue for me though, especially since it's firmware based and there no fix for linux.
I booted up a live Debian disk in best buy and having a black terminal window would cause the brightness to freak the fuck out.
A real shame since it seems to support linux ootb

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Because this is better

>>61766070
(2) displays
that thing has a bunch of problems btw and is low quality junk

>>61766205
>chink botnet

>>61765243
>:D there are usb-c to x cables for dirt cheap, fagit.
money is not the issue here buddy. The thing is about portability and not having to worry about losing the dongles.

>>61766205
is it really any good? How's the keyboard?

>>61766290
What's not a botnet these days? Every recent laptop has at least one device with botnet shit in firmware.

>>61766401
Are you fucking 5?
Keep the one dongle that you need in your backpack, the monitor and Ethernet dongle should just stay on your desk like a dock.
What the fuck are you even trying to argue at this point?
You trying to tell me that you walk around with an expensive laptop and literally no pockets?

>>61766537
Are you telling me you walk around with pockets full of dongles instead of buying a real computer?

>>61762216
Only thinkpads with 100 stickers can protect your bitch ass during the beta uprising

>>61766552
>have space to carry flash drive/whatever the fuck your faggot ass wants to plug in
>but only EXACTLY enough for that thing, impossible to fit in a 10mm adaptor
Fuck off retard

>>61766596
>implying betas can uprise anything but their tiny dicks to anime cuck porn

>>61762671
(you)

>>61762595
It's proprietary. There are no GNU/Linux (or even Windows) drivers available for it.

>>61766636
I carry just my laptop(and charger) plus a couple of books, I don't need to add more shit into my bag because of poor design choices.

>>61766841
You fucking nigger.
We're talking about something that weighs a fraction of an ounce here

>>61766287
>HDMI
>Display port

do you even have your eyes open anon

>>61766941
It's not if it weighs a lot or not. My slab of a computer weighs like 8lbs but dongles are messy and take up a ton space and time.

>>61767018
You're clearly a fucking retard
Just fuck off man

>>61767114
>he can't defend his octopus laptop setup and is giving up
great talking to ya m8.

>>61762595
Now that it can be jailbroken in the same way as an Apple watch? Not much.

probably the keyboard

i just tested it out at bestbuy the other day and i didnt realize the keyboard is literally flat and there isnt anything raised to be able to use the kb properly

other than that it's pretty cool with the touchbar

>>61763753
lol chill you sperg

>>61762498
What thinkpad is that?

>>61762236
The RAM is soldered to the motherboard. You can't upgrade it after buying it.

>>61762216
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>>61762216
>Give me a single GOOD reason why I shouldn't buy a 2017 macbook pro
Because it's equal to or surpassed by older models for a lot less. Buy a refurbished 2015 or whatever with real ports and enjoy the fa/g/g/otry.
Protip: never buy new Applel gear. Always buy refurbished from them. There is no discernible difference between their new and refurbished products.

Realistically, are iris graphics even any good?
Can I play pcsx2 at native res?

>>61762216
I decided to get a Surface Book for the same price, OneNote + the surface touchscreen and the build quality on this thing has left me p happy. Only quirk I've noticed is the connection between the tablet part and the 2nd battery/keyboard part needs to be cleaned every once in a while or else it starts disconnecting randomly

>>61762239
Just use Bootcamp. All Macs support Windows natively.

>>61768458
>throttlebook

>>61768338
By native I mean PS2 native of course
>>61768351
I like it, but the stand is less useful to me than a hinge, also the alcantra material will age easily.
Plus I need muh Unix tools, on windows I would have to use a VM, extra hassle.
>>61768572
doesn't seem to be nearly as bad on the 2016 and 2017 ones.

>>61767693
T420

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>>61768599
>gets BTFO by laptops 1/5 the price

>doesn't seem to be nearly as bad

LMAO
M
A
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>>61768599
>muh Unix tools
You are aware you can get those from Microsoft, right?

>>61768743
That isn't the model im looking at though. I dislike apple too but chill out anon.
>>61768945
>from microshit
No thanks, they're not even properly integrated into windows anyway. It's all hacked together shit on windows, especially running an SSH server. No, I dont want to use samba

its a designer handbag - its pretty and expensive, it may even be well made physically, but its not going to do anything that another cheaper bag cant.

>>61762216
Shitty battery life.

>>61762595
Buggy shit.

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>>61762239
>Bluehole Studio
They're going to fuck it up and turn it f2p/p2w in a year when the playerbase peaks.

Specs of the MacBook Pro 2017 no touch bar edition.

>i5-7360U
>8GB of RAM
>Iris Plus 640
>$1300

A MacBook Pro is supposed to be a workstation, not an overpriced ultrabook.

>>61769609
Thats plenty fine though
The 13in is going to replace the air after all. And it competes well with the xps 13 and x1 carbon

>>61762216
If you can afford it, but if you're tech savvy enough a proper Gentoo install will be just as reliable with a fraction of the price.


That said you'd be hardpressed to find a display on some Windows lappy that could compete with what's on the Pro.

Also a Surface could be another option which is I believe cheaper than a MBP, and much more portable too with, in my opinion, a better screen

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>>61762498
High quality camera you've got there.

>>61769729
The only current high end machine that supports linux well is the xps, but you cant turn off that context brightness thing, it spazzes out when you have a black terminal running.

The surface is nice but a kickstand just doesn't suit my needs, also the keyboard cover has mushy keys and the whole windows not being Unix thing.

I want to get a macbook air going into a software engineering degree, but I'm worried I'm going to need to use software that can't be used on mac

>>61762216
don't then, if you're not getting a touchbar get a 2015 15" or another computer.

>>61769519
>5 billion bugs and exploits
>no fixes ever, just like Tera
>playerbase will fall off a cliff
>the few remaining players just exploit everything
>some will make hacks to improve gameplay
>the first EME catches wind of it, they ban the player dev's accounts
>piss off entire dedicated player base
>even more players quit
>dies a slow painful death

>>61769880
I was literally about to order the 2015 but the staingste thing seems to happen to all of them, even if you baby it.

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>>61769662
>competes well with the xps 13 and x1 carbon

The throttlebook 2017 is a steaming pile of shit that can't even compete with a $600 Latitude.

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>>61762216
The keyboard is completely awful. I can not understand why Apple did that, MBPs used to have a great keyboard.

>>61768323
>Because it's equal to or surpassed by older models for a lot less. Buy a refurbished 2015
This.

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>>61769946
>throttlebook 2015
Good joke.

>>61762216
Depends on if you're prepared to throw it away in couple years, because it's unupgradable shit.

>>61762216
I sold my fully loaded T460p for a 2017 non touch MBP. base i5, 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD. It's really nice, but I miss my Thinkpad. I'll be selling the nigger beats headphones apple sent for 300 burgerbucks.....so all in I will have spent just a little over 3 grand on this machine....I really don't know if I want to keep it though because of the OS and the fact I can't repair/upgrade it. Someone please help me make up my mind. I think I have about 10 more days to decide whether or not I want to return it. If I do, I'll get a fully loaded T460p and use the corporate discount....comes out to about 1400.

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What's /g/'s opinion on the spectre series of lappy-t's?

>>61762918
4? My normie classmate’s only has one

>>61769996
>just a little over 1300 bucks

Kek I'd never spend 3 grand on a fucking Mac

>>61769996
>256GB
It's shit.

>>61769929
how is it awful exactly? genuine question

>>61770015
That's the 12' MacBook, not the Pro. Non touch has 2 TB3 and touch has 4

>>61770019
I have external drives. My T460p had a fucking 512GB that I never used to its potential. I don't store a lot of shit locally

>>61762216
You can get a much better machine for much less money.

>>61762216
>I pay to go to college, no money left.
More seriusly, I have a gaymer desktop, and a very cheap laptop for the same price.

>>61762216
No window tiling

>>61770020
No key travel basically. They almost feel like you are typing on a touchscreen.

See this for instance:
>The limited key "travel" makes does not cushion the fingers the way the previous Mac keyboards do (which I loved.) It's now been almost a year and I'm sad to say this might have to be my last Mac if Apple doesn't find a way to make typing on this keyboard more comfortable.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7795970?start=0&tstart=0

Most people I know (professional software engineers) are using external keyboards with their MBP2017 because they just can't type on that shit.

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>>61762216
Because;
>ChromeOS does all you need for less €$£
>Linux is a better OS
>Windows has games
>Macbook has shit hardware and design overall
Apple is useless in 2017.

>>61762216
Neither the best nor the worst machine you could get but either way certainly not worth the ridiculous price

>>61770020
https://9to5mac.com/2017/02/21/macbook-pro-keyboard-problems/

>>61770044
I don't trust external drives for taking my data with me. All it takes is one unfortunate fall and there go your data. And when I'm buying laptop that's supposed to last ~4-5 years, then I'd want to be sure that if for some reason, I suddenly need more than 256GB or to upgrade the RAM, I wouldn't have to buy new laptop.

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>>61769996

>>61769896
But at least it'll have retarded costumes that don't really fit in the game at all. Right ?

>>61770115
Again, they feel like cherry blues with less travel, much preferable to shitty shallow feeling mushy laptop keyboards.

>>61770203
That's true. But personally I never take them with me. Only stuff I need to save on a machine is maybe some documents and that's it. And yeah repair ability and upgrade ability are the main reasons I'm considering returning it.

>>61770269
Why the fuck would the ssd die?
They're rated to last for decades. If you're gonna criticize something go ahead, but stop with the weird paranoia.

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>>61762216
Can I reask this in a non bait way?
I actually do need a new laptop, also for grad school.
I really need it to last at least 5 years though.
I have friends that still use 2012 pros and one of my friends still has a launch air.
Do you guys think the new pro can last 5 years? I did sole research and it looks like the hinge is completely metal now, and there's basically no moving parts so that seems good.
It also looks like linux support is decent even now, so I'm probably set software wise when apple stoops giving os updates.
Any thoughts?

>>61770861
what are defects?

>>61770920
See >>61768323

>>61770921
I can't find a single example on google.

>>61770941
>implying

>>61770269
>Oh no! The ssd died!

Yeah I guess when you are used to thinkshit, you have to worry about things like that.

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>>61770940
Like someone else mentioned, the 2015 pro seems to have been a rushed product. From overheating to staingate.
The screen is also really nice on the new one, and to be honest I'd like to use this opportunity to upgrade from my current 1280x800 life, I'm going to be living frugally from here on out and I'd like to take advantage of the little refund that I got from school.

>>61770920
>Do you guys think the new pro can last 5 years?

Yes.

>>61770964
Neither can you, it seems.

>>61771034
They're all shit since 2012, 2015 is just less shit

>>61767693
>>61768738
The speakers are too wide for it to be a T420. I think I can make out a W, but its too blurry and faded for me to make out the numbers.

>>61767693
T520

>>61770269
But see, the thing is Macs tend to have better build quality to where things like the hard drive failing just do not happen

>>61772421
>macshit
>build quality

Nice meme.

>>61772536
sorry, but it's true

>>61772580
t. hipster gayboi

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>>61768020

>people comparing specs for machines designed to run totally different operating systems

This board is full of morons.

>>61766666
That satanic post

>>61772626
what' that? looks like your battery died before you could finish that post

USB ports.

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d o n g l e s

>>61772689
USB C is the future

>>61772729
but not the present

>>61773136
My pone is USB C

>>61768020
you goddamn idiot.
>>61762216
OP, the website doesn't explicitly say it, but the 13 inch non-touchbar version can be configured to 16 gb ram. do that

>>61765643
Yeah but all those run shitty Windows. Lame

>>61762239
>Playing the monthly normie fad game

>>61762778
Too loud, even at idle

1/10 the battery life of the MacBook

Don't believe me? Go to fucking notebookcheck

>>61762216
Seeing it's the quietest, best battery life, thinnest quad core laptop you can get with an above 1080p panel you can't go wrong

>>61773236
Is there a 15 inch non touchbar available?

The 13 should be avoided as it has half the battery life of the 15 model

>>61773345
no, i don't think so. however, i own the 13 inch and the battery life is more than ok

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>>61773374
>t. mactoddler

>>61762216
Using a 2012 13.3" MBP, returned the $2.8K 15" MBP, touchbar was useless, if they made a 15" non-touchbar version, I'd pick it up.

>>61773446
alright? i don't only use my mac during a workday, and it's great for carrying around because it's slim and light. it's a pretty good laptop for my purposes, and i won't argue that its specs are worse than a thinkpad

>>61773493
It's better with iris pro but that takes away battery

Windows laptop never use iris for that reason, they are already in a bad place

>>61773516
>t. mactoddler posting from his overheating 2hr battery throttlebook

>>61773532
do you have some obsession with shitposting mac bait?

>>61762216
Spend a minimum six hours watching Louis Rossman on youtube. You are paying 1000 or more to have that shit quality work in your laptop. Still comfortable? go ahead I guess, but the planned obsolescence clock is real in Macbooks.

>>61762216
You should have money for two of these before buying one. If it breaks, repair is as expensive as a new one.
SSD and RAM are soldered to the motherboard - there is absolutely no upgradability also.

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>>61763455
>every year
the fuck do you people do with your laptop? I own an 8 year old Toshiba that I've dragged through heaven and hell and it still works fine
that just tells me you're irresponsible children

>>61774191
t. Shitty 720p TN panel

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>>61774222
non-argument unless you think my 720p TN display prevents me from being an absolute ape with my electronics?
If your laptop lasts less than a year then you are a child who needs to be supervised

>>61774322
Trust me you're missing out without a high dpi and color accuracy screen

Anime looks better

At least get an XPS 15

>>61774341
>reading comprehension
I said I own it and it works, not that it's my main PC.
Re-read the reply; it's about how fast you're going through laptops

>>61774400
I didn't understand because your fucking English is terrible, don't tell me anyone should be able to understand what the fuck you mean in that first sentence.

>>61762216
It has the worst keyboard I've ever used.

>>61770123
>apple drops 5 spots after removing magsafe and other ports people actually use
good

>>61765179
I have the 13" no touch bar. I can usually get 6-10 hrs of battery.

>>61762216
I loved Macs for the hardware. I always ran Ubuntu, but the hardware was my favorite. Here's why I would suggest against it:

1. Keyboard is trash. Keys will randomly stop working and every once in a while a key will start working again if you're lucky. In my case it's been both the actual key mechanism that will stop clicking and it also won't register. On top of that the feel of the keyboard is trash.

2. Battery life is absolutely awful. I heard that the battery life wasn't as good as previous generations but I had no idea it was this bad. Expect 3-4 hours of battery life.

4. Shit tier previous gen processor. I wrote a Java game that runs multiple threads that runs fine on a macbook air, but on the new pro it lags and will randomly freeze.

5. Personal preference: all USB-C is a horrible option. It would be fine if it were ten years down the road and people actually developed products for USB-C, but right now to find anything that fits that port you have to not only pay extra, but also search online.

5.Not compatible with Linux. In some models the SSD, graphics, and sleep won't work. Also bluetooth, audio, and fans won't work in all models.

Dude, just do a late 2015 model. Those are absolutely great and strive in all the areas the new ones suck. And on the plus side you'll get it for less money.

>>61762703
>freetard
>not communist
o I am laffin

Sent from my MacBook Pro designed by Apple in California

I don't get the Americans' obsession with Apple. It's an American-only thing, in other parts of the world Apple has near-zero popularity.
>inb4 poor
This includes rich European countries like the Scandinavian countries, with higher average standard of living than in the USA.

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>>61774963
Nobody wants your overheating throttling pile of shit. Fuck off shill.

>>61762216
One simple GOOD reason: Not looking like a faggot.

>>61762778
>that rainbow backlight for maximum gayness

>>61775106
I just told him not to buy the mac, you simpleton.

>>61764098

>isn’t specific as to render test used, so nobody can audit this faggy propaganda

And that Dell?

>manufacturer refurbished with one-year warranty and no extension option, as opposed to brand-new with 1-year warranty, with the option of extended warranty
>12”, but almost as heavy as 15” MBP (3.4lb vs. 4.06lb)
>comparing a 12” laptop to a 15” laptop in general in terms of price
>Conveniently covering up the RAM on the Dell
>not including the Dell in the render test, just something else with the same processor, leaving lots of room for disingenuity
>1920x1080 display with shitty colors vs. 2880x1800 with P3

Also, LaptopMag says the Wal-mart laptop heats up like a sidewalk on a summer day and sounds like a jet lifting off when it’s under load, so that’s fun. They also say the audio is shit, the webcam is double shit, and the display is quad shit. The SSD is slower than its competitors, too.

This is just a really shitty laptop. I can’t believe you picked this piece of trash. And source on the render test or get the fuck out.

>>61762778
I've been thinking about buying either this or xps.

I bought a new thinkpad a year ago for $2000 and lenovo skimped on me on the warranty repair so I'm never going to buy a new thinkpad again.

>>61764080
Who the fuck looks at the usb ports, really

No one gives a shit what laptop one is using as long as it serves it's purpose

>>61762216
There's literally nothing wrong with the tocuhbar

>>61771034
Fuck it, ill just get a macbook air.
Cheapest option, the battery heat sink and ssd are replaceable, it has ports and over 10 hours of battery even with linux (which it supports completely)

Any objections? Im looking at 1100 with tax and a student discount. Might sell or keep the beats, idk

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>>61762987
Just buy one of these. 1080p matte ips display, 512GB SSD, 12GB ram for less than 600. I've used it for more than two years and I love it.

>>61763646
>1008.5 × 2
>Screens

>>61769802
That's a high quality phone camera to you?

>>61773446
Better than chinkpad that has builtin hardware level rootkits. Nice try Cheng, we aren't going to fall for your memes

>>61762216
Buy o Surface Book. Especially for school. Nicer screen, better keyboard, pen. What's not to love

>>61777389
disgusting...

>I hate what's popular and don't value intangibles.
>muh specs
>muh apple is robbing people

I'll pay the Apple tax to NOT have to have hot garbage that breaks immediately after warranty like dell and hp.

>>61774412
>the fuck do you people do with your laptop?
>hard to understand for natives
Nice one, ESL-kun.

>>61777501
>What's not to love
Windows.

>>61777501
dogshit speakers
worse performance
that god awful hinge
and the pen doesn't even go inside the laptop
plus fuck writing stuff down

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>>61775146
Taste the rainbow.

>>61763455
>Thinkpads only come in 1366x768

Are you fucking retarded? My T460p had a 2560x1440 panel

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>>61763741