/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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>>61688332
>>61688332

First for Thotripper

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PDJtD8
I want to upgrade to Coffee Lake when it comes (sometime this month)?
Stuff marked as purchased is what I can reuse from my current build
Any thoughts? And is the FTW3 iCX cooler quieter than the 2 fan version?

>>61697517
I thought Coffee Lake's supposed to be incompatible with Z270 boards?

Can't seem to find QVL for Asus Prime B350M, anyone got a link or something ?
Plus any straight up ram models you'd recommend for that mobo, I'm thinking 2x8gb

>>61697556
Is it? I read something like a week ago that it was gonna work with any 1151 board.
It doesn't really matter for me either way as I have to buy a new mobo regardless.

>>61697585
same socket, different chipset

>>61697656
Gotcha, I guess I'll have to buy a Z370 mobo when Coffee Lake is released
I really hope EVGA has a Z370 board upon release.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/chaos1463/saved/kHc3CJ

how's this look? first time picking parts, threw this together over my break, I'm no stranger to building though.

planning on upgrading to an i7 later, getting a better gpu, and will be getting an ssd next paycheck

im broke, need an upgrade from a sempron 3850 and a gt 710 for under 200 bucks
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/smMw4C

will possibly add a GPU later if the APU isnt enough, likely an rx 470 when the miners start dropping them

>>61697726
shit not sure if that link will work for anyone but me here maybe this one https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wqzkQV

uh how do i reset my bios
its saying something like "the following product info in the mainboard is wrong"

>>61697726
if you plan on upgrading later to a 7700k or something, dont bother with the i5, go with a pentium G4560 or something, perfectly paired with the 1050ti

>>61697745
>i5 instead of 5zen
5zen better
>wifi on a desktop
save the money and powerline

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2 more days until my new build arrives

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>>61697461
I need help. iw as building my PC but it doesn't work:

>Plug PC into electricity and screen via VgA
>The computers seems to work fine, all the coolers working, leds on, etc
>But monitor won't show anything
>Also PC shut down after 10 seconds and turn on again without me touching anything

>>61697885
show us a list of the stuff you got

>>61697885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbpqkiaO7q4

Is Seasonic M12II-EVO520 a good PSU ?
I have a very limited availability for high quality PSUs (most discussed "good" PSUs are nowhere to be found locally)
The evo520 is surprisingly cheap and on official site shows that it's fully modular, although on the store I'm looking at it, there's a picture that it's semi-modular
If that doesn't work out, what about Cooler Master V series RS550-AFBAG1-EU, or just recommend some models I could look into for ~550W
Don't plan to overclock, maybe just a little bit, no plan to stress the build too much, so basically just need a high enough quality PSU to feel safe and use it for years to come

>>61697461
What the fuck is this motherboard

Okay so can we talk about Vega? Is it really that bad? Do Nvidia cards really age much worse? Will a 80-series Nvidia last me at least 3 years, because I'm kind of content with upgrading a video card once in 3 or so years? Will the non-reference design Vegas be much better, with OC out of the box and better cooling system than a "metal brick with one fan"? When are they supposed to come out?

Honestly, the only thing that even makes me consider buying AMD is Freensync. Lots of very attractive monitors with it if you don't want 144Hz IPS.

>>61698033
Too early to tell anything really specific about vega, it still lacks proper drivers or even getting non-reference launch

>>61698054
Well this sucks because I need to buy a monitor very soon.

>>61697911
https://es.pcpartpicker.com/guide/tXNnTW/entry-level-gaming-build

It should work since that build is used by lots of people.

Also this is my first build, maybe I missed something. Do I need to connect a data sata between motherboard and PSU or just the power one?

>>61698063
Well if current generation is anything to go by, you might as well stick to AMD, they really didn't fuck up with 480/580 (although the price after miners fucked everything up is atrocious, at least where I live) so maybe VEGA won't disappoint in the long run or they'll release new series that will also be great

>>61698032
Fuck off underage

Any idea if Corsair CMU16GX4M2C3200C16 (the white led ones, I know, LEDS and all that shit, but it's actually one of the best prices I can get, compared to other RAM) will be compatible(QVL) with ASUS Prime B350M-A mobo, since I can't find the fucking QVL for that mobo

>>61698068
you need to connect your monitor to the GPU, not the motherboard

you need a HDMI cable

as for the computer turning off after 10 seconds, I don't know what could it be, try to remove the cpu cooler, change the thermal paste and install it again, it may be sitting on the processor improperly

any anons here planning threadripper builds? post 'em senpai

>Tinfoil builders
Yes we get it, you have super secret files and don't want backdoors.

>>61698143
RAM manufacturers have their own QVL lists, try looking it up on Corsair site?

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will the prices of midtier GPUs such as gtx 1060 and rx580 go back to normal by the end of this month? or am I deluding myself? when do you anons think is best time to buy?

Intel
>just works

AMD
>just wait

is this a meme?

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/carbide-series-clear-600c-inverse-atx-full-tower-case

>>61698177
>1950X
>that 140mm Noctua cooler they made for the socket
>(don't know the mobo yet, will get one with 10g ethernet and the best power delivery I can find because I want crazy overclocks on zen2/3)
>128-256GB of DDR4 3600MHz (3200 if it doesn't work)
>two samsung 960 pro 2TB
>watercooled RX Vega 64 (best freesync card that'll be available this year)
>coolermaster H500P

>>61697461
Where can I buy a 486DX and a Socket 2 motherboard with VLB???

>>61698207
holy fuck I'm stupid, I managed to find the QVL on asus too, it lists the same RAM but on 3000MHz and CL15, no word on 3200MHz CL16
How likely would the faster RAM work properly or should I just go with the bit slower but supported RAM
I thought I read that the support is getting better and better, so should that mean that even if now the faster RAM might not work properly, it could later on ?
Corsairs site wasn't helpful

>>61698296

>10g ethernet

if im a stupid burger with shit net speeds this will be useless for me, correct? best burger net is like 1 gbps fiber

>>61698346
I plan on building a NAS for myself too, and I don't want to bottleneck file transfer on LAN

>>61698165
>you need to connect your monitor to the GPU, not the motherboard
I tried connecting it with a HDMI. Need I to buy a dvi-vga adapater or something like that?

>>61698296
>256 GB RAM

p sure all the mobos only support 128 GB

>>61697761
>>61697783
thanks boys. will update list in a bit. so I do like the price of the g4560, so do I go with that or the 5zen or whatever? and why?

also, I've heard often there's not a whole lot of reason to go over 16gb of ram, but I do like being able to multitask. will I be fine?
appreciative of all your help

>>61698282
I guess that's why all those people are waiting for Coffee Lake.

>>61698288
It's HUGE, do you really need a full tower?

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>>61697745
>locked i5 in the year of Ryzen

If you are really too poor for 7700k but want to buy into the platform, get a Pentium to hold you over.

I still think it's dumb and you should just get god's gift to man the R5 1600, then you don't have to waste money/time for upgrades.

>>61698407
>only 8 dimm slots per socket
what is this trash?

>>61698477
i could do without, but as far as dimensions go it doesnt seem that outrageous, there are mid towers that size?

i was more inquiring about the inverse setup.

So my grandparents dont understand building a pc but im not gonna pass up a free computer
Is this good for older games and tekken 7?
3.6ghz intel i7-7700 quad core 8 threads
16gb ddr4 sdram
Nvidia gtx 1060 6gb

My motherboard finally went out in my HP 8200,


The power supply is also loud as fuck so I want to replace both.

I'm a noob and I've never even built a PC before.

Suggestions?


What would be a good compatible motherboard and power supply?

>>61698592
yes

>>61698428
The Pentium would be a good pick if you intend to upgrade, since its cheaper and still good for most games in 1080p. Saving you a significant sum of money over the i5 that would later be replaced anyway.
The other anons suggestion of going Ryzen is also a good pick for future upgrade plans, though I would get a Ryzen R3 1200, their basic cheap quad-core. They're 120$ compared to the Pentium at 80$. You would need a nicer motherboard comparable to that Z270 board for a potential future upgrade to say a Ryzen R7 1700 or 1800.

16gb of ram is plenty for gaming and multitasking, realistically you could get away with 8 but extra headroom is always nice. 32gb initially wouldn't be used for anything right now unless you do professional work that requires a lot of ram. But ram is an easy thing to upgrade in the future if you need 32gb later.

>>61698592
That's good for every modern game, pretty much.

>>61698391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuFGUVg0U9U
start on 37:35, raja says 256GB on TR

>>61698616
>>61698653
Thanks guys.

>>61698684
oh sick i stand corrected

>>61698742
don't mind it too much, with so many rumors saying different things these last months it's easy to get it wrong, at least now we have a official-ish confirmation

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>>61698386
Your video card doesn't seem to have VGA out, or the analog pins of DVI.
Either way, post photos of your PC's inards.

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>>61698614
I think one of these is what you are looking for. I would just buy a new pc because those MBs cost half or even more than that PC alone.

>>61698824
fuck forgot link
https://www.ebay.com/p/HP-611835-001-LGA-1155-Intel-Motherboard/141717495

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What's the most modular/compatible mid/full tower case?

>>61698906
cooler master master case series

I am unsure if upgrading my FX-6300/GTX 1060 build is worth it (I'd upgrade the CPU/MOBO/RAM) because there aren't any actually good games that require lots of power that are coming out, are there any good ones coming out at all (exc. indies)?

>>61699175
new assassins creed looks alright
middle earth shadow of war also looks pretty good
destiny if you're into those fps mmo's
new wolfenstein - first was good

>>61699175
Forza 7 is coming out That looks alright. Forza games are always a blast.

Hey /g/, anybody got experience with eGPUs? Or even laptop CPUs?

I've got a Latitude E6440 that I want to get an eGPU for. I've got expresscard gen-2, which the forums say won't be a bottleneck for any cards.

My CPU is a 4702MQ, and I'm thinking of getting a 1070 or 1060. I really want 120FPS@1080p, I don't play very demanding games.

Is my shitty CPU gonna fuck me? I could upgrade to a 4900 or a 4900mx line and get
good overclocking, but I seriously doubt my laptop could handle the temps, because my current CPU will already brush 90C under a benchmark.

>>61699175
an overclocked ryzen 3 processor shits on that FX-6300 both in single and multithread, you'd see some reasonable performance improvement on old cpu heavy games

How are EVGA mobos? I don't want to give any more of money to chink companies with shit support.

>>61699533
I considered a Ryzen 3 but 1600 provides a really REALLY significant boost to FPS in comparison and I can afford it, it's just that I don't really know what I'd have to play in the future, the only thing bugging me now is Nier not holding 60 (hovering around 45-55) and Witcher 3 also hovering from 45-65

>>61699112
Looks like the Maker 5 is best for me.

>>61699580
>>61699533
And uhh I guess PS2/PS3/3DS emulation is not the best either so I'd like to play that stuff too

Just got my new pc build and I notice the rear exhaust fan is making a clicking noise. Thinking maybe a cable was hitting or something I checked it out but nope it's clear, no obstruction. The sound seems to be the fan itself, it moves back and forth on its central mount. Is this a problem? It's not too loud and I always wear headphones so idgaf. Just wondering if it can cause damage. My hunch is it won't.

what was that about driver 17.7.2 improving driver overhead? has anyone actually confirmed this via benchmarks?

>>61699578
EVGA products are great and as you said they are all made in USA

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oWo what's this

how to overclock ryzen on a320 board? there's a bios mod right?

>>61699957
You chuck that shit in the trash and buy an Intel rig like a white man.

>>61699984
not interested schlomo

>>61699993
reported

>>61699957
You can't. Overclocking is only allowed on B350 and X370 motherboards. There's no mod to unlock overclocking

>>61700074
bitch ass nibbas, guess i have to be a good goy and shell out for b350

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Pc Exploded, needing a hella cheap one hella fast. Mainly for Essays and browsing but games are essential however not anything advanced mainly csgo, binding of issac, overwatch etc. Thoughts?

>>61700135
better than on Intel and having to shell out for Z270 for overclocking

>>61700141
yeah. that psu probably isn't the best for the price, not sure who fractal's psu oem is, I'm sure you can find a 400w or 450w seasonic built unit at that price which would be ideal.

>>61699945
autism and faggotry

>>61700158
Any recommendations?

>>61700141
>GTX1050 2GB

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>61700201
plz, mercy

>>61699175
just wait, no good games coming

>>61699175
only thing worth upgrading for right now are cemu and rpcs3, but honestly your fx6300 might just cut it for those emulators once they're more optimized assuming you overclock it to at least 4.5

>>61700141
get 8gb ram

>>61699483
That CPU will fuck you. Why not get a PC?

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>>61700141
Gotchu oniichan
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NKGnRG

>>61700284
It's a lot cheaper to buy a PSU, a GPU, and an eGPU connector than to build a whole PC.

1070 or vega 56

>>61700452
do you want a gpu that's going to lose support in two years or five?

>>61700478
5.

>>61700487
can you cope with increased power draw and thermals?

>>61697563
Vengeance lpx at 3000/3200

Its pretty low profile, pretty cheap, comes in a few colors, and doesn't look retarded

Would you rather go with an intel i7 7700 or an amd ryzen 7 1700?

>>61700513
I guess?

>>61700529
1700

>>61700529
Both are fine. The ryzen is overclockable while the 7700 isn't, so if that interests you go for the ryzen

>>61700531
these next questions are just marginal, but you should answer too:
what are you going to play?
what resolution are you going to play?
what refresh rate are you going to play?

>>61700529
>Sandy Bridge with MOAR COREZ
vs
>Kabylake
Gee that's difficult.

Some lad is telling me that mixing AMD with Intel/Nvidia is supposedly bad, is this guy being retarded or is there actually truth to it? Driver issues?

>>61700529
I'd get the 1700 because I can upgrade to any AM4 cpu that will come in the next 4 years without any problems

>>61700566
It looks like on ryzen launch nvidia GPUs were underperforming with it, don't know if this has been fixed

>>61700559
Triple ayy games like monster hunter and destiny.

Im on a 1080p monitor atm but would want to go 1440p soon.

>>61700566
AMD's drivers are shit period.

>>61700566
no. there was one game (rottr) which had issues and shills like adoredtv threw the full blame at nvidia for whatever retarded reason he managed to find. turned out it was something wrong with the actual game and the devs put out a statement about it and patched the game where there was like a 30% performance uplift on ryzen and nvidia cards in that combo. it's fine now. and nvidia actually performs better on some ryzen cpu than some intel cpu

>>61700562
Im sorry i dont know what these memes mean

>>61700604
No one has Vega 56 benchmarks as of now, I'd personally play the safe route and wait for them. Vega 56 looks like a good investment though

>>61699822
It may have a weird fan curve and is starting and stopping abruptly or is just a shit fan.

Try adjusting it in bios to ramp up slower, or just ignore it and buy a new $10 fan if it shits itself

>>61700630
Go Intel.

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>>61700562
Yet another deluded intel shill

>>61700135
A MSI tomahawk is like 80$ and has great support on latest BIOS. Mortar if you want matx

>>61700662
Not an argument.

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>>61700655
Fuck off favelanigger you aren't fooling anyone

>>61700674
>>61700662
whats wrong with intel?

>>61700688
Absolutely nothing, AMD knows they have to shill Ryzen hard or they'll go bankrupt.

>>61700620
I've used a full on AMD build for five years now and never had a problem with drivers, my dude.

>>61700703

Ryzen blows intel out of the water at the price point, and Intel is cutting corners and not soldering on heat spreaders
>>61700703
/pcbg/ is not for trolling

>>61700716
Well my friend had a r7 250 and it was a piece of shit that couldn't run anything and blue screened constantly.

Final piece
gtx 1060 vs rx 580?

>>61700769
1060.

>>61700769
1060 6GB

>>61700649
Gonna take the latter option, doesn't show up in bios or speed fan. And you're correct its a case fan that came with my antec gx505, probably just a junker.

>>61700769
580 > 1060 6GB in dx12. 1060 6GB slight edge in dx11

580 >>>>> 1060 3GB

>>61700777
>>61700792
>>61700817
Well thats easy. Ill grab the 1060 6gb. Appreciate the input

>>61697461
any consensus on which is the best x399 mobo? looking at either msi or gigabyte.

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>>61698822
And graphic car is a Gigabite GTX 1050ti. I just bought thermal paste and a dvi-d vga cable to connect the monitor directly to the gpu, and the thermal paste because I think the pc kept turning off because cpu overheat.

>>61700739
Not that anon but when I went from a GTX 670 to a Fury X the first thing I noticed was how fucking nice the card "just worked" compared to Nvidia. Not to mention, despite having a lower budget for drivers and optimizations the UI for Radeon Software is just fucking nice compared to Nvidia's control panel. It's fast and easy as hell to navigate. It's also nice because the control panel and their Geforce Experience equivalent are much better integrated together than Nvidia's solution.

The AMD drivers bullshit is an old meme, they're nice as fuck.

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>>61697461
>that zif socket
>those simms
>those vlb slots

How's the AsRock AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 mobo? I've been getting mixed signals about it.

Are ultra settings a meme? I can't think of a single game where there's a huge difference between ultra and high and wouldn't you want to manually adjust settings like AA at higher resolutions anyway? Why would you ever need more than 4x AA at 1440p? Or 2x AA at 4k?

Why are drivers and OSes so hard to get to work?

I built a good computer that can't even run windows or connect to the internet

>>61701200
>muh blurries
AA is a meme

750W PSU should be enough for Vega 64, right?

>>61701267
For that and that alone, yes. Problem is the rest of your system. Use a PSU calculator, make sure the total draw of your system isn't using more than 80% of your PSU's wattage.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FWRgM8
trying to stay around 1000, i would like to edit and play games all at 1080p 60hz
specifically overwatch, witcher, and batlegrounds

>>61700769
the 480 was arguably worth it for the price/perf but the 580 has like 30% extra power consumption with only 5% increase in performance and is already pretty much tapped out from the factory. you could probably get another 60-80 mhz on the core but you won't gain much. the 1060 on the other hand can gain 10% perf when oc to 2ghz-2.1ghz.

Just got the NZXT S340, but the stock fans are too damn loud. what should I get as a replacement? preferably 140mm. I just don't know much about fan brands.

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WHY
FUCKING CRASH ALREADY

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What's the point of a GTX 1080/Vega 64? Assuming Vega performs equal to their Nvidia equivalents for now, who needs them over the GTX 1070/Vega 56?

They're clearly only worthwhile for high refresh rate 1440p gaming, but neither of them will be able to get a 144hz consistently in most modern games and the Vega 56/GTX 1070 both push over 60FPS in almost every game anyway, even at ultra. Not to mention, you could probably get equivalent performance with almost zero visual quality drop by reducing graphics to high/very high and tweaking settings, and you'd probably want to do this to keep your minimums up regardless. Is there really much of a benefit to forking over the extra $100 for those additional frames?

Best SSDs for medium price?
Looking in the $50-60 price range. 120 is fine but 240 is obviously welcome too.

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>>61701464
Looking at pic related.
Any good?

1600X + AiO or 1700 + Stock?
I don't intend to OC, the only application that I use and can highly benefit from 8C/16T is x264, that I use once or twice a week.
Currently I have an old PII, so anything will be an improvement (now it takes ~5 hours to encode a single 1h30m video), but as I don't care much about it been a little bit faster (12T->16T) I thought it would be a better idea to maybe stick with the higher base clock + temps from 1600X.
What you guys think?

Also, I do play at 1080p60

>>61701442
>neither of them will be able to get a 144hz consistently
Why do you think there's G-Sync/Freesync? I'd recon a smoothed ~100FPS experience is probably better than 60FPS.

>>61701487
>I don't intend to OC
Then why even consider AiO?

>>61701487
Whichever is cheaper.

I know TLC is a big no-no but I can't seem to find a good alternative to the 960 Pro. Can anyone recommend me an alternative? If not I'm just going to buy one.
>>61701487
Ryzen stock cooler is really good. I would go with the 1700 and just buy an aftermarket cooler if you ever fell the need for one in the future.

Um so which GPU brands are the best?

>>61701515
If he's not going to OC and doesn't need 8 cores 1600X has a higher stock clock.

>>61701505
>I thought it would be a better idea to maybe stick with the higher base clock + temps from 1600X.
Also, the way you say it's almost as I could reach 4.1Ghz+
I know that stock can do 3.8/3.9 without much problem

>>61701511
1600X+AiO is ~$7 cheaper

>>61701515
>fell the need for one in the future
Yeah, this ain't happen
I'm getting 16GB 2666MHz just to NOT pick 8GB 3000MHz now and another one later, because I know that I would probably never do that.

Thanks.

Anyone had any experience ordering from B&H? A couple of my parts are apparently cheapest from them.

>>61701620
They're a good and reliable company and I've bought camera stuff from them before, but keep in mind that they're run by happy merchants so be careful not to order on one of the billion Jewish holidays because it'll probably not get shipped out for three months when the monthly Cha'haleth'l ends.

So I built a new PC with all the new parts, installed Windows 10 Home without a licence, however the OS got activated somehow, I have no idea how, do new motherboards activated windows 10?

>>61701689
it only lasts 30 days. you'll get a warning eventually. same thing happened to me on win7

>>61698346
>>61698368
your bottlenecks will be entirely limited to your hard drives and their configuration. a single standard hard drive tops out at ~200 MB/s (1.6 gbps). now, if you run a bunch in a raid 0 array, you can get better speeds per drive you add. but still, other components not calculated for, it would take ~6 hard drives to get you to that limit. i've been trying to look into ways to get past that besides running ssd's instead of hdd's. would give me the speed but i lose on cost and capacity. looking for improvements on this if anybody has any thoughts

>>61701696
Ah I see, okay thank you.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XTGnRG

What do you think is it worth it?


>CPU

AMD - Threadripper 1920X 3.5GHz 12-Core

>CPU Cooler

NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

>Motherboard

MSI - X399 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX TR4 Motherboard

>Storage

Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM

Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive

>Video Card

Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card

>Case

Thermaltake - View 31 TG RGB ATX Mid Tower

>Power Supply

EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

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>>61701737
>Goes for the $800 CPU
>gets mid-range graphics card

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>>61701782
>calling gtx 1080 mid range
>being this autistic

Anyone have a good build for a decent VR rig for under $1200 or so? Old pc is on it's way out and I need a new comp for 3d modeling, gaming, and VR capabilities for work.

is there any reason to get a Ryzen 1800x over 1700 or 1700x?

>>61701699
NAS guy here, I'll build it with ssd write cache so I don't take hours to transfer a lot of small files from my computer to it

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>>61701782
>second fastest card on the market
>mid-range

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gPMTkT

Alrighty, editted my list from earlier per >>61698490
>>61698633
recommendations (and then I actually read the OP, which is why I'm going with the SSD now), so that's where I'm at now.

Now my only question is about my cooling unit. The OP says Ryzen's come with good cooling units, and Part Picker is saying I may need an extra mount anyway for the mobo I have selected.

Should I be worried about that, or do I even need the separate cooler? And if I do need a separate mount, what am I even looking for to find it?

Thanks buds

>>61701844
to is never my problem, its the from. i can deal with slow write speeds but its reads that i plan to maximize by going 10g. i firmly believe i will be able to go straight 10g over fiber for most of my computer devices in the next 10 years, trying to get a jump on it early.

>>61701818
This one should work for you.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MhVGZ8

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was going to put together an mid level build for my little cousin for his birthday. i already have a gtx 770 4gb and a 850 evo on hand. someone on craigslist is selling for 350 bucks a system with 3570k, nice coolermaster hsf, 8gb ddr3, 750w seasonic psu, 2tb hdd and 250gb ssd all in a r4 case. worth?

I need some recommendations for cases. I'm air cooling and overclocking so I need a case with good airflow, but I would like it to be quiet too. I don't care if it has a window or not, but if it is windowed I want tempered glass because I live in a studio and don't want some tacky piece of shit to haunt me whenever I'm home. I would like to stay sub $80 but would be willing to go up to $100 if it comes with dual 140mm fans for intake.

>>61701818
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GMnynn

here you go senpai

>>61702293
P400S
S3400
200R

>>61702282
Is he not worthy of ryzen?

>>61701981
>Now my only question is about my cooling unit. The OP says Ryzen's come with good cooling units

The 1600X does not come with a bundled cooler. If you want a cooler, look at a Cryorig H7 and ask them for a bracket, I don't know if they ship them with the coolers yet.

However, the 1600 does come with a good cooler that can handle an overclock that gets you close to 1600X performance. My 1600 gets to 3.7GHz on the stock cooler without even tweaking the voltages, sometimes it XFR's up to 3.9GHz on two cores.

Hello

This question calls for speculation, but what GPU wouls you recommend if i want to play all games at 60fps 1440p high detail (not ultra) for the next 3-5 years?

Thanks

>>61702610
1080/ti

I'm trying to max out the power draw from 15 amp outlets with a mining rig. Right now I'm thinking 5 1080tis and 1 1070 would be the absolute most efficient. Anyone tried this before?

>>61702610

My 1080ti can do that, my 1070 already has some issues with some really unoptimized games.

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>>61702420
Thanks anon! Pretty ace list as far as I can tell, I just added a wifi adapter and upgraded the cpu. Should I be worried about the corsair compatibility note?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xxGbPs

>>61702689
>my 1070 already has some issues with some really unoptimized games.
What in the living hell are you playing?

>>61702764

Rising storm vietnam really, really shits the bed

Maybe my cpu was bottlenecking it, I don't have a good one. I just turn off one of my mining cards to play games desu

>>61701997
I think you can only achieve this by going full ssd or getting a lot of those 15k rpm enterprise drives in RAID

>>61702764
Rise of the tomb raider
Some parts really sends your FPS into the shitters and I am on a 1080ti

>>61697517
i dont really see the point on going with anything intel what so ever atm

to be honest i dont see the point to buy intel for the next 5-6 years considering that they arent even close to amd

>>61702780
>Maybe my cpu was bottlenecking it, I don't have a good one
Even a 2500k still won't bottleneck you too much nowadays, but it'll definitely cost you a double digit number of frames and anything lower than that will probably cause problems.
>>61702815
Then it's not the 1070's fault, it's the game's.

>>61702847
>with some really unoptimized games.
That's exactly what he said

I am a partenered streamer at twitch who is interested in picking up a 1440p monitor. Will this fuck up my stream quality given that the max resolution on twitch is 1080p, so i guess i will have to downscale?

Is a 1080p monitor superior to 1440p for twitch streaming?

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Should I just bite the bullet and grab a 1050ti or 1060 3gb?
I've got no clue how long the prices for the 580/570 will stay sky high.

Two questions with monitors for gaming.

>1. Are there any ultra wide monitors ~$500 for 4k?
>2. how much of a meme is monitor refresh rate?

I currently have a 24" monitor (BenQ XL2420T) that I bought 4 years ago. It's 1080p with 2ms (GTG) response time. I also have a r9 290 but plan on upgrading in the coming months. I mainly play games 2-3 times a week. I'm also open to game recommendations mainly first person shooters.

Games I play:
Mainly-
Battlefield 1 & 4 (multi player)
Grand Theft Auto V (campaign)

Occasionally-
American Truck Driver
Crysis 2&3 (campaign)
Farcry 3&4 (campaign)

>>61702948

They will be bought up, eth will probably rise again with bitcoin

Don't think the prices will get any lower

Mom is giving me $900 to build a pc. Can ya guys help me?

>>61703032

Get a job

Put the money in stocks

>>61703056
What kind of stocks

>>61703065

This isn't really the place

Point is, buy assets not liabilities

Assets make you money. Like my crypto miners, stocks, etc.

Liabilities lose you money, like your computer

>>61701156
I have one if you want

Say on my Ryzen build I attempting to get my memory stable at 3200Mhz (its advertised speed). I set the timings/voltage manually and my system does perfectly fine with no errors in HCI MemTest and AIDA64 overnight, and I can game ~4-6 hours straight without issue.

However, when starting up my PC (cold boot or restart), sometimes it fails to reach BIOS and the screen remains black; sometimes it makes it to Windows perfectly fine. What's the limiting factor? It never resets my settings in the BIOS or anything - just need to restart until it goes through.

I read elsewhere that it might be because before even BIOS the system starts with 1.2V, not reaching the DRAM voltage of 1.35V that I set. Apparently I need to change the boot voltage, but my MSI B350 board doesn't have the option even with the latest AGESA update. Do I cut my losses and try for a lower speed, or is there another setting I can adjust to try and get around this?

is there a more up to date version/alternative to this case?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/J2yFf7/corsair-case-500rbk
one without firewire and more intake fan space with maybe 2 5.25 bays

>>61703032
R5 1300 + RX 570

If this is your first build, just get something cheap and functional. If you find out you're a degenerate failure who games all day later on into your life, upgrade then. Don't buy anything more than you need.

>>61702939
How are you a partnered stream and have no idea how video encoding works. If the software you use to stream isn't fucking shit it will automatically downsample the stream.
Just like how you have play at more than 60 fps but the stream is capped at 60fps.

>>61703143
most high profile streamers I watch use xsplit, the casualized broadcast software, instead of something like OBS

just werkz

>>61703090
>Implying a computer isn't an asset
Computers are a gate way into so many money making shit.
Streaming.
Production.
Music making.
Stocks.

A car is a liability. A PC is not.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zV4YD8

Did I do good?

>>61703139
I am already a degenerate

>>61703135
Is your RAM on the QVL?

>>61703163
0/10 troll

>>61703160

Well, the way he was talking, I assumed he needed to learn about assets vs liabilities

>>61703163
had me until windows 10

>>61703176
Liabilities are things that accrue you debt or negative income while giving you no returns.

If you are going to talk about assets, you might want to mention depreciating assets as well.

Stocks tracking an index is an asset.
A car is a depreciating asset.

>>61703090
holy shit you're a fucking retard

>>61702838
amd is for poor people

>>61703244

How much money have you made on your garbage build?

>>61703318
how many times have you told people a computer is a liability?

you have no idea wtf you're talking about, stop talking finance bitch

>>61703300
And soon to be homeless after Vega burns their houses down

calling >>>/biz/, report in

>>61697885
Clear CMOS

>>61703332

Your life is a liability

The point is, every computer part i buy makes me money. Every part you buy helps you run honey select at 144hz 4k.

My hard drive keeps saying it is at 100% how normal is this?
It's a seagate
And recommendations?

>>61703353
Liability isn't something you buy that doesn't make you money you fucking moron.

Liability is something like buying a boat, it doesn't make you money but it cost money to maintain and fees you need to pay to keep it anchored.

Buying a PC isn't a liability in the same way that buying a fucking table isn't a liability. Now getting a loan to buy a PC, that can be considered a liability if you don't immediately pay it off and let the interest roll.

A liability is something you buy that continues to cost you money after purchase.

>>61703394
>And recommendations?
Buy WD like everyone else who isn't an idiot.

>>61703394
Run crystaldiskinfo
Report back

>>61703170
Yup. Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16). Mobo is MSI B350 PC Mate.
In fact, AGESA 1.0.0.6 is what made 3200Mhz possible despite the boot problems. Before that I couldn't even pass stock 2133Mhz. I get the same problem even setting the XMP profile and letting it automatically do its thing.
I mean, it's fine in actual use (been chugging for 2 weeks). Just an annoyance when I shut down my PC or have to restart which is rare. Or is it an issue I should probably deal with that might have later repercussions?

>>61703411

A pc won't? With replacement parts, electricity, peripherals, games?

Are the noctua p12s a good choice for airflow through hdd cages or are there better fan alternatives that have good enough static pressure when quiet?

>>61703394
If it keeps saying it's full... Then you need to delete stuff. You can download windirstat and let it Do it's thing and it will tell you how much space folders are taking up. Alternatively spend $50 and get a second drive. Sata cable if you don't have an extra and some screws to hold it. Or look up how to suspend it with a shoelace or ripcord. That's how I have some of mine since all my slots are used up

>>61703442
In the same way a bed is not a liability because you have to buy bedsheets to use it.

>>61703479

So you admit to being wrong and poor?

>>61703483
>implying you're not the poor one being autistic about $2 of electricity

>>61703483
No you fucking moron. Things costing money to operate doesn't make it a liability in the same way that my phone isn't a liability because it cost electricity and telecom bills because it allows me to make calls and communicate.

A clear liability is a something like a summer house that you took a loan to buy. The mere existence of it cost money to you.

Both versions of Trident Z RGB are on sale right now. F4-3200C14D-16GTZR for $185 (Samsung) and F4-3200C16D-16GTZR (Hynix) for $155. Both are about the same price as other equivalent sticks. Is Samsung B Die worth $30 more?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7grRm8
Hi, I'm a first time builder and would like some opinions...

>>61703483
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liability_(financial_accounting)

Please read this. I actually had to study this in university and your stupid ass shit post makes me hurt.

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>>61703526
>>61703543
>>61703568

An infamously communistic board goes ballistic when someone tries to teach a young man the value of capitalism and saving money.

Really makes you think.

>>61703566
Ryzen 1700 is superior
MG279Q is Freesync only. You are looking for the PG279Q which allows G-sync
Everything else is fine

>>61703595
More like
>A famously autistic board goes ballistic when they see a moron defining words in manner that don't fit their definition

See linux and GNU

>>61703603
Thank you for your feedback.

>>61703566
Grab a ryzen instead of the i5
and unless you know you need 16gigs of ram, just grab 8

>>61703556
Just make sure they are on your QVL

For those who wanted ITX AM4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQey80pQQ0

>>61703630
>and unless you know you need 16gigs of ram, just grab 8
That is fucking retarded. His specs are well above the recommended specs for most games and then you proceed to recommend 8 gig of RAM which is the MINIMUM specs for games nowadays?

So I can get the EVGA 1070 FTW for $400 used tomorrow from Craigslist that was supposedly only used for 2 months.

Or I can get the ASUS 1080 ROG Stix for $475 also used from Craiglist but it's about a 2 hour drive away.

My final build will be a i7-7700k, 16gb ram and a motherboard I haven't decided on yet. I have 2 1920 x 1080 monitors, but I only play on one and the other I use for productivity. Games I plan on playing are PUBG, flight simulators such as XPlane 11 and Overwatch.

Wat do, /g/?

>>61703640
ANUS hasn't updated their QVL since March. Seems like the performance is mostly stable across the board for most users and as expected, the Samsung memory is much more consistent

>>61697461
What's the VIA chip for? The one above it is the BIOS ROM right?

>>61703659
475 for a 1080 is more worth for raw value
But at 1080p and i assume 60hz, you don't need that extra boost.

>>61703566
updated: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZtNxBP

>>61703659
1070 should be more than sufficient for your current set up.

Which's a better value/long term buy?

1050ti or 1060 3gb

>>61703706
Drop the CPU cooler. The stock fan is better than the one you have. Consider a mATX board unless you really need a ATX board (extra PCI-E slots).

>>61701173
Same, I just went with a MSI mortar instead, was basically the same price. Tomahawk is the atx version.

>>61703682
>>61703708
Gotcha. Is that $400 a decent deal given the current prices or am I getting fucked?

>>61703556
Any other suggestions? I would buy the Flare X but it's priced at 190 right now. I wouldn't mind having some fancy argeebee lights in my PC.

>>61703769
Considering most 1070s are still 450-500 new, I'd go for it. Can you ask the seller to plug it into his PC and run some tests? Any sort of inspection might be a good idea

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>>61702948
1060 3GB is shit.

1050ti, or buy a 580 at 270$ in a combo on newegg (you get the card+some junk they are trying to get rid of), or the 6 GB at like 320 ish.

Pic related was 279 and came with some garbage fitness band that barely works.

>>61703797
Don't believe it's in his build and we were planning on meeting tomorrow to buy it. EVGA warranty would most likely cover anything serious right?

>>61703836
I got shafted when I tried to buy one of those combo deals.

They voided out the card order after they sent me the shitty SSD that I'm still trying to RMA back to them.

Been meaning to upgrade my GPU from a 750ti, what card would be pretty similar (small form factor, low power, powered through PCI only)?

>>61703839
Yeah if he registered the card it should be covered under EVGA's second hand warrenty until the end of it's period

>>61703556
>buying shitty tall meme ram when corsair lpx 3200 is ~$140 all the time and is low profile so you can get fuck huge coolers


https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0143UM4TC

The black modules are 155~

>>61703961
the only recent-ish cards I know that only uses PCI power are some specific versions of the rx 460

>>61703899
Damn that sucks, they likely oversold this shit. Even these meme deals go out of stock in like an hour after they list.

I might have got shafted too but I paid 3$ for "rush processing". Might have made the difference.

>>61703993
Ram clearance isn't going to be an issue with my build (water-cooling)

Whats the most budget gpu out there that can run most games at the moment? Potentially for non-gaming work too like video editing or something

GT 1030??
GTX 1050???

Poorfag here

If I buy an i7 and a motherboard that needs an updated BIOS beforehand, could I take it to >geeksquad and have them do that shit? I don't have any way of updating it otherwise. I have an i5-3570k on my current build

>>61704091
you're saying that you don't have a flashdrive and willpower?

Should I get a single fan 1060 or a dual fan 1060?
Is there a noticeable difference?

>>61704166
Some noise/heat difference but nothing major

>>61703961
Find a 1050 (non ti) that is reference or not factory OC'd. I think evga has one.

Some rx560s run at <75watts as well. Better option because they have more vram.

>>61704166
Pretty sure all the single fans are 3GB and basically no better than a 1050ti. Avoid.

>>61704157
How am I supposed to update it if I don't have access to a Skylake CPU though? Like legit question, kind of feel like a retard right now

>>61704260
Some people are dumb and just react without thinking.

Geeksquad is full of retards, do you have any local repair/hobbiest shops?

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Hey bros I asked on /v/ but those guys were meh. Trying to get a gaming computer they said just build it. I've done it in the past but it's a pain in the ass and I want something that runs Occulus perfect and can run revit/CAD and other programs well like Photoshop to. Main purpose is gaming. Fuck AMD graphics cards. They told me the pc below is refurbished parts, fuck that to.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-120gb-solid-state-drive-1tb-hard-drive-black-red/5727100.p?skuId=5727100

iBUYPOWER - Desktop - Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 - 120GB Solid State Drive + 1TB Hard Drive - Black/red

Fucking gay name and stupid looking box, but I do like the specs.

How could I build this for way less without the gay lights?

>>61704260
If geeksquad wont do it you can probably find a small shop that will

>>6171050
ti evga doesn't need external power but then again it's not big of jump for price

Should I get a Ryzen 5 1600 or Ryzen 7 1700?

>>61704065
1050 Ti
But wait for prices to drop, shit's out of whack due to fucking cryptominers

>>61704455
It's like 145 now.
what was the price originally?

>>61704259
>>61704166
They do make single-fan 1060's
Shouldn't make a huge difference though unless you plan to overclock your GPU

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>>61704467
Here's an EVGA 1050 Ti for example

Anyone wanna recommend me a good gaming rig for around 2k ? Im an idiot when It comes to picking parts

>>61704504
Theres no sign of it going down though that looks like an incline across all the stores

>>61704553
I think we've just about peaked

>>61704439
Do you want to stream video and play games simultaneously? Do you do video encoding or some other compute heavy task that can fully utilize 16 threads? If yes to either then get the 1700, otherwise stick with the 1600. Or if it's just not a big cost difference to you then get the 1700 for the hell of it

Is there any way to transfer over everything on my current Windows 10 install when I build my new PC? I didn't put much thought into it until just now

>no side window
>visible intake fans
why is every case like this ancient or a flimsy budget case

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how's this as a first time build

how hard would it be to replace a firewire port with a usb?

>>61704717
>micro ATX
kys yourself

>>61704717
get 2x 4GB RAM instead

>>61704717
2x8 GB RAM
You'll thank me later

>>61704786
>>61704767
hmmmm

>>61704844
just make sure you're enjoying the benefits of dual channel RAM

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3nwynn
I would like feedback on the price/performance of my first build with 1080@120hz in mind
What Im concerned with the most is the motherboard choise, i just picked something compatible with ryzen and that had good reviews, if its not, could I get some suggestion?
Is the CPU fan good enough?
Thank you

>>61697461
Ok fags, already have a 1060/6600k build that I want to sell now that I have a good job and am making money, want to fully buy into the RGB watercooling tempered glass jew. Is there anywhere here that I'm just throwing money away? Thoughts/improvements? I'll buy a HDD later.

>>61704905
Whoops, forgot link
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RmBs4C

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>Ryzen 5 1600 + GTX 1070
>try running demmanding UDK games and fan projects on open world fields, get 49 FPS
>try running shadow warrior, see noticeable spikes
>try running serious sam 3, see spikes when dust is onscreen
>fucking sonic generations getting bad drops
>mfw
WHAT DO I DO? I got the latest 1070 drivers but I have no idea where to fetch the right AMD drivers from and I can't find them for the ryzen 5, only RX GPUs on the official AMD website. I got no internet on my PC yet so I can't download automated driver fetching tools

>core i11
>gtx 2080 ti
>128tb ram
>9 Petabyte storage

R8 my sh8

>>61704927
http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/chipsets/am4

Run some benchmarks like Firestrike etc. and see if your scores are inline with expectations. What RAM speeds/timings are you running?

>>61704964
DDR4 3200Hz RAM. Checking the link now

>>61704961
lol corelet

>>61704964
>>61704985
Oh and it's in the mobo QVL

>>61704927
You fell for the Ryzen™ 5 meme

>>61704961
>no power source
>no monitor
Fucking idiot

>>61705039
>people actually give a shit
Lol

>>61705071
>you meme
>people meme you back
>you take them seriously
I d i o t

>>61705071
>i-i was just pretending to be retarded

Doing my first build had a few (dumb?) questions - is it necessary to update my bios? Do I install windows updates or turn them off right away?(Windows 7)
Thanks /pcbg/

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

>>61705112
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GKcYD8
i'm retarded.

>>61705112
You need to give the url in the bar at the top of your build list, not your actual url.

>>61705128
He fixed it retard>>61705124
>>61705124
>>61705124

Are there any good Z270 mobos with 2 CPU sockets?

>>61705134
Sorry, delayed phoneposter
>>61705124
No
Install the updates, you'll run into even more compatibility issues than normal if your version is behind.

>>61705101
No I actually have this :^)

>>61705159
Actual retardation? My condolences.

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>>61705149
to be clear - don't worry about bios but do update windows? That's what I was thinking - thank you anon!

>>61704925
Bump
I can provide postbuild pics for you all to jerk it too :)>>61704927

>>61704964
Aparently I already had the right driver. What do I do now?

>>61705199
Correct
Cute girl btw, who is she?

>>61705175
Stay jelly! :>D

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>>61705216
Sagiri from Eromanga Sensei - aired last season

>>61705214
Run benchmarks like Aida64, Firestrike, Unigine Heaven, whatever else you have access to and see if any of them show reduced performance. You can also open resource monitor and something like MSI afterburner to monitor your system and see what is happening during those spikes. I would also run memtest86 and prime95 or other stability tests to make sure your RAM and CPU are stable.

>>61704927
How many watts on your PSU? 1070 is a hungry card, maybe you're not feeding it right?

Lol, wonder how peeps here act irl. Bet they'd pee there pants before saying half the shit they do here,

R8888 MYYYY SSSHHHH888
GYX 8000
PREDTOR XXX 9000
999^999 WAT POWR SUPPLY
CORE I9999
999 exabyte storage
Etc

can you fags recommend me a case?
>full/mid tower
>no side window or at least tinted and small
>visible intake fans
>no more than 3 5.25" bays
>not not a featureless rectangle
>not a flimsy scrap heap

>>61705175
Fuck you.

>>61705279
>point 2
>point 5
Pick one

>>61705279
something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/J2yFf7/corsair-case-500rbk

>>61705264
500W bronze EVGA iirc

>>61705245
Downloading high end benchmarking tools on a dinky tablet then transfering them to my PC is a nightmare. What's the most lightweight reliable benchmark tool I can get?

>>61705320
Aida64. Why don't you have internet on your PC? No LAN cable or no wireless adapter?

>>61705279
https://m.newegg.com/products/9SIA6705VF8814

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>>61705373

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>>61705344
Modem is too far away and I'm in a home basement, studying abroad. Asking for the landlord to get a wire through the walls is too much trouble. Wifi adapter is coming in the mail soon

>>61705443
Gotcha. I would grab memtest86 while you're at it. It's insanely small and you can load it on a bootable flash drive and have it run tests on your memory overnight. Just choose the flash drive as the boot device in the BIOS boot override and it'll just start testing your RAM in a loop. Aida64 has built in benchmarks, reports and a stress test. Prime95 is another small tool that provides intense CPU stress tests.

>>61702762
No i don't think so but just be cautious about it

>>61705443
It's also entirely possible some of these games you're playing are either coded stupidly or are making optimizations for Intel platforms that cause weirdness on other platforms. You can try disabling SMT in the BIOS or setting the CPU affinity for those processes in task manager to even thread numbers and see if that helps. I wouldn't turn off SMT permanently but just as a test. You can run CPU affinity all the time if it does help. I've found that it can help on some quirky titles, even on Intel platforms.

im so high rt now <_>

>>61705526
I've considered it. DOOM and The Talos Principle (same devs as SS3) run smooth as silk, but I expected the CPU + GPU to at least pick up SOME of the slack in olser unoptimized games. Now I'm afraid of even downloading GTA IV and Saints row 2

>>61705600
Some games just run like shit no matter how much you brute force it.

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>>61705615
Shucks. Here are the benchmarks

HOWS IT LOOKING ?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6WxRm8

Any anons have experience with the Cooler Master CM-590 III?
Am ausfag with shit currency and shit shipping, so it being a $69 case with $5 shipping is appealing, as well as the fact that the store that has it in stock is 5-10 minute drive away.
Or, any Ausanons know of good websites for cheaper cases that don't charge a gorillian didgeridoos for shipping them?

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Should I play russian roulette?

>>61705706
Forgot to add, this is a 1060 3g

>>61705718
>3
snatch it up son

>>61705724
I'm retarded, I'm not waiting 4 more days than I have to. I'd be fun to talk to amazon support at worst.

Thanks anon, you've enabled a tard.

960 Evo or 960 Pro. If neither, wat do

>>61705911
850

What is the best b350 motherboard? I plan to do a mild overclock to maybe 3.7ghz with my Ryzen 7 1700 and stock cooler. also i have corsair lpx vengeance 3000mhz ram

>>61705923
Looking for an NVMe for media editing (scratch disk). I already have a 1tb crucial SSD, would the 850 be able to keep up with Samsung's new NVMe drives?

Is a core i9 or Xeon really necessary for 4K gaming? Or is an i7 or even i5 fine enough?

>>61705988
on 4k the gpu will be your bottleneck unless you're using a celeron

>>61705988
i7 is more than enough, past 4k most of the stress is out on your GPU instead of your CPU.

>>61705988
Don't get caught by Intel's memes. 4K needs a good GPU, not CPU. Good CPU is needed for high refresh rates.

>>61705925
Asus B350 Prime, MSI B350 Krait, Asus Strix B350-F, or for the most part anything not Assrock or Gigabyte

>>61705634
Well right away I can tell the memory speeds are very low. There is no way it's running at 3200Mhz, what speed is Aida64 reporting?

You should be getting over 45000 MB/s for read/write/copy

>>61706009
I have a 1080 ti coming soon and all that's really left is my cpu and ram>>61706033

>>61706009
What sort of cpu would I need for 1440p 144hz?