/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

>>61666530
what about leopold fc660c? it's a more "normal" layout, though it's still ANSI. and you would still be missing the < > key... I've heard of a layout called US International, but I don't know how it actually performs. perhaps you could try it out? it would open up your options a lot more, but again, I don't know anything about how it would actually feel to use.

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>>61668058
I need your help /mkg/. I've been searching for days but can't find what I'm looking for. I've finally given up and I'm looking for help from others.

I'd like to buy keycaps. Specifically: double-shot (not dyesub), PBT (not ABS), Japanese Kana legends. Any color, any profile is fine.

I can't find something like this anywhere. I've found ABS double-shot and PBT dysesub but not doubleshot PBT.

HALP!

>>61668164
Those sub legends are pad printed. The only doubleshot sub legends you can buy today are crylic and are in ABS. What you want doesn't exist, unless you get dye-sub. I really don't get why it matters since dye-sub legends never wear off.

>>61668351
>Those sub legends are pad printed
Not sure what you're talking about. The pic? Not important.

Dye-sub = fuzzy. Can't have dark keycaps with white legends. Don't want it. I'd like double-shot PBT. But I am unable to find it...

>>61668496
>Dye-sub = fuzzy.
Not on good sets
>Can't have dark keycaps with white legends.
Yes you can, Google inverse dye-subbing
Also only three companies make double shot PBT (and not very well) since its a bitch to work with. Ducky can't make a decent set to save their life, tai-hao is so thin that GMK ABS sets somehow last longer, and vortex can't get the sub legends correct so they hack them up. Even on double shot ABS the Japanese sub legends are pad printed, if you're lucky they laser etch them. Your only option is to get dye-sub or laser etched PBT.

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>>61668574
>Not on good sets
Does not exist.

>Google inverse dye-subbing
It looks like vomit. Have you even looked at one in person? It doesn't even look black.

>Your only option is to get dye-sub or laser etched PBT.
Both of these options are awful. Oh well. My quest is then over. I'll just buy a good quality double-shot PBT set with english legends and call it a day.

>>61668646
Ah so you're a troll. Should've figured it sooner. Pro tip next time don't use embedded images

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>>61668689
>troll
you''re an idiot if you think anything i said is trolling. everything I said is true.

>>61668058
Motherfucking waffle keyboards.
Any tolerable cheap TKLs in murica that arent gaymer shit? I know how to solder, are cheap kits a thing?

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>>61668706
>Does not exist.
Nah its a troll. You can get non fuzzy dye-sub PBT for 50-80 bucks depending on the complexity. Cherry has been inverse dye subbing since before you were born.
You're a troll simple as that

>>61668706
>you"re
Troll master detected

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The clit on this thing is ass but I've never been happier.

>>61668752
I fucking hate Unicomp. The laziest shitters in the whole keyboard industry. Fuck those guys. The keyboards are great tho

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>>61668738
ALL edges on a dyesub are fuzzy. It's due to the texture of the keycap.

Show me a good inverse dyesub that actually looks good and is available for sale today. I'll wait.

>>61668752
The clit on the original is shit too anon.

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>>61668842
Okay how about this. Tell me the difference between these two sets.
Also anything from BSP

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>>61668991
You're playing games kiddo. And it's obvious you reversed the names.

Again, show me a good inverse dyseub keyset for sale today. Every one of them I've looked at online and seen in person (I've even owned a chinkshit one) looked like shit.

And they really are fuzzy because of the way sublimation is made on top of a rough texture.

And I really don't are if you like and I don't. I would never buy dyesub again.

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>>61669090
That's a pretty cleaver troll, I'll give you that. No more memes from me, enjoy you're ABS sets anon

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>>61669146
>That's a pretty cleaver troll, I'll give you that. No more memes from me, enjoy you're ABS sets anon
>you're
Just some name calling and bad grammar. I challenged you to show me these amazing inverse dyseubs and you balked and came up with nothing and resorted to BS. You probably got pissed off when I correctly guessed your trap image (it's obvious which is a dyesub anon... it really is).

I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if you can actually prove me wrong. Dyseub is just awful IMO.

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>>61668752
>>61668923
Can confirm.

>>61669265
this is ABS but GMK laser, i think, will have actual japanese doubleshot

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How do you fags like my layout

>>61669146
>Not enjoying abs
How does it feel to be a casual?

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>>61669394
You can't enjoy them more then me anon. I spent $280 on doubleshot ABS

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Is it true ever since mx silent's release cherry has been using new moulds that remove the scratchiness that was in their old linear switches?

>>61668058
Whats the consensus on cherry mx reds?

>>61669486
Kinda. Gaterons still have the smoothest molds since my two year old unlubbed zealios are smoother then the newer cherry switches. Its a whole lot better then the other chink shit like kailh, gaote, and zorro and its nice that cherry has caught up. They still give this shitty excuse that a little bit of scratchiness is good since it helps you feel how far down you are

>>61669416
>http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
How can you stand the feel of the ABS though?

>>61669380
Where I can found Vim caps?

Can I get a second opinion on this?
I don't see the hype for Outemu Pruples, they feel like less smooth Gateron browns. Tactile bump is similar to Gaterons, less than Outemu browns, Zealios, or MX Browns.
I got to try Outemu Ice Purples but they feel different, almost like Outemu brown but weightier. They're supposed to use a Purple with a 62g spring, how does it change the feel so drastically?
Or are chink switches really that inconsistent and I got a weird batch?

>>61669812
I have reds in my noppoo choc mini, love them honestly. Couldn't imagine getting anything different

>>61669907
Meant to say MX clears instead of MX browns, I don't think there's any tactile switch with a smaller bump than MX browns

>>61668058
Is it just me or does that look like corn?

>>61669812
mx reds are a love/hate thing, some people like them while others hate them
if you're buying them for gayming consider kailh speed switches or those laser switches from gateron

>>61669888
Some loser on geekhack contacted GMK and asked them if they could make a custom vim keycap. They charged him $100,000 for the molds and he actually paid it. They're very expensive, but the quality is superb

>>61669858
Ok cool. I locked in on mx blacks and old reds were a little to scratchy for me so I was worried. Glad they've changed

>>61669888
Similar one
http://www.mechkeys.io/product/gmk-vimcaps

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Hmm...

>Budget
$150 absolute max, but the cheaper the better
>Location (continent at least)
Ohio, US
>Preferred switch type
Honestly not sure. Have blues but not particularly sold on them, even though I mostly type. First mech switch ever though.
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
No preference. Open to ideas.
>Backlight
RGB was a meme to me until I saw my friend's K70 and enjoyed the lights a bit too much.
>Previous/current keyboards
Used my laptop's chiclet keyboard for about 6 years until I spilled water and ruined it. Started looking into actual keyboards and discovered mechs.

I currently own a Leopold FC750R with Cherry Blues that I'm just not sure I'm entirely sold on. It's taken a lot longer than I thought it would to get used to the switches and the force needed to activate them and I'm not sure I entirely enjoy it. My friend just got a new K70 with browns and I really enjoy how much easier it is to press on the keys. A little too mushy I think, so maybe I'd like the reds? Blacks? I just don't know. I don't have any way of testing out other switches other than what friends have and the only friend with a mech is the one I just mentioned.

>>61669380
>how do you fags like my layout
if only reddit would be okay with this

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>>61668058
got tired of seeing my dad do his remote work with a shitty keyboard that he won't replace, got him a K840 Mechanical. not the biggest fan of Romer G switches, but durable for his long work days and quiet enough for conference calls. it also lacks all gamer logos and lights, which is good for him.
my one complaint is that there's no indicator light for numlock, yet still has a windows key lockout function (likely a holdout from the G413 rebadge).

What's the best beige aesthetic 104/10keyless under 100 keyboard?

>>61670330
model m, original or unicomp

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>>61670172
I'd recommend a corsair strafe w/ blues or clears if you like floating key designs, and a ducky shine 4+ if you like set-in keys. Keep in mind, floating key designs are a bit louder as well. Don't fall for the red/brown meme, they feel like squishy shit. I wouldn't recommend a model M because it has a 2 (or 3?) key rollover, which makes typing fast painful, and gaming impossible.

>>61670321
I think that looks pretty slick, actually. Nice design.

>>61670526
>and gaming impossible
This is false.

>>61668058
Recently bought the HyperX mech, and I got the model with cherry mx blues. I probably could have shopped around more and got a better deal off of amazon but this was nice because I walked right into best buy, tried out the keyboards, then walked out, and they were charging the same amount as amazon and any other online store as I could find.... Again, I could have ordered a budget mech and got something with gatereons, but I'm a high time preference fuck, so imo the extra money was worth it for me. I'm gonna order a set of keycaps - Are the cheap(ish) ones alright? I'm talking $25, roughly, not like crazy dirt cheap

>>61671114
>Are the cheap(ish) ones alright?

You want pbt so they don't get shiny over time. You want cherry profile I'm guessing since you have a cherry board. As for the legends, you can go blank, but if you don't want that look into dyesub or doubleshot since things like pad printing will wear over time.

>>61671011
I liked it mostly because it's no frills yet not meme tier oversimplified. Logitech is marketing this as a workplace mech keyboard and it's not doing a bad job at it. if you have a dictator/secretary, they would love something like this.

>>61671153
Alright, thanks anon, I appreciate it.

>>61670526

> Don't fall for the red/brown meme

Millions of mechanical keyboard users like reds and browns quite well. Also, you don't know what meme means.

> wouldn't recommend a model M because it has a 2 (or 3?) key rollover, which makes typing fast painful, and gaming impossible.

bs and bs

>>61670172
Possibly look into finding a board with cherry clears or matias click or quiet click.

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WTF is going on here?

>>61671279
http://silverlinux.blogspot.com/2012/06/why-im-using-1988-keyboard.html
>It's no secret that the Model M has 2-key rollover (meaning, worst case, you might not be able to hit three keys at once). I'm not even much of a gamer, and this has gotten in my way a few times.

also, reds and brows are squishy shit. Don't fall for the red/brown meme like this cunt clearly has.

>>61669907
What do you think should I change Gateron blues to Outemu ice purple on my Tada68? I on a budget and want to have the tactile bump without the noise.

>>61671414
R A R E
A
R
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Some cunt in italy is doing the same thing with foam TKL wrist rests except they have a reasonable price and $100 shipping to burgerland.

>>61671414
>12 sold

>>61671646
>foam TKL wrist rests
I bought one of those grifiti fat wrist rests and it lasted 6 months before it started looking and feeling like shit. washing it didn't help much because it was fraying. Then I bought that PC Gaming Race TKL wrist pad and it lasted maybe 8 months since it was made of fabric and it was impossible to clean it.
Now I have a chinkshit $6 wrist pad made from protein leather and it's the best by far. So damn easy to clean and it's softer than other ones. Highly recommended.

>>61671662
>>12 sold
I don't get this shit. You can buy 2 FUCKING KEYBOARDS for the price of fucking feet.

Boggles my mind.

>>61671741
My autism dictates that the rest is the exact length of my 14.5" keyboard though.

About to order corsair k95 rgb cherry mx brown
Any other keyboaed i should consider? Needs to be quiet preferably rgb desu

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>>61671768
>My autism dictates that the rest is the exact length of my 14.5" keyboard though.
mine's the exact same length. it's superb.
pic related.

>>61671788
>K95
dont waste the money and just get a K70

>>61671788
>brown
pure garbage.

>>61671872
this guy knows. browns feel just like a rubberdome. you might as well save your money and not get one at all.

>>61671935

Literally no rubber dome can have the characteristic of a Cherry MX Bown switch.

>>61672024
I agree with you, except they share the same characteristic of feeling like fresh shit when you press down. If you're into that, cool.

>>61671444

Cunt feels like what? Oh that's right, you haven't the slightest idea.

I've typed on more switches then you ever will son and browns and reds are very different switches. Though you probably wouldn't notice the subtle differences between them because it's hard to focus on such details when you're slobbering all over some 16yo asian kid's cock for a chance to buy his custom 39.4% acrylic unicorn cum sandwich keyboard with outemu blues.

>>61672079

This guy stuffs his fingers into fresh shit regularly enough to make comparisons to mechanical switches.

Do you seriously have nothing better to do but shout your pompous opinions about mechanical keyboards on the internet?

>>61672131
>>61672155
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitches? Ill have you know etc. etc. Eat shit and die autists. You're leading people into a dumpster bin with your shitty ass sour grape opinions. Reds and browns are objectively the worst switch there is available, recommending people to buy them is like telling a good friend to kill themselves.

>>61672024
They have the characteristics of shit and all rubber domes feel like shit

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>>61671795
he dosent make his own wrist rest
mine cost 3€

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Lewd.

What due to use on my Unicomp caps?

>>61672581
Dye

>>61671872
>>61671935
What is this hate on browns?
They are quiet, light, has a little tactile feedback and comfy to type on imo. I wouldn't consider them similar to rubber domes either.

Do you have the urls to some recycling centers that offer online sales?
I remember that a lad posted one with model m2s at 25 bucks.

>>61668058
i have a filco with cherry blues. master race.

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Can we just start spamming Unicomp with requests for a TKL until they get the fucking message and stop sitting around?

Anyone here have 45g topre and 55g?
How is the difference?

I've used linears for almost two years and now tactile switches feel like I have to press through something to type

Tactile is shit

So are we all agreed:

F type buckling springs>M type buckling springs>gateron blues>outemu blues>cherry mx blues>steaming dog turd>alps>topre>rubber dome>anything else

?

Hello, I want to buy my first mechanical keyboard.

>Budget
165€ / 185$

>Location (continent at least)
France

>Preferred switch type
Brown

>Material
PBT

>Layout
I don't really care of the layout but i have a preference for ANSI with AZERTY layout (because i'm french) but i can be fine with QWERTY layout because it's easier to programm with and i can use alt + number to type french accent.

>Form factor
100% full keyboard with at least volume keys (mute, down, up)
Thin bezels and no space between keys

>Backlight
RGB if possible or white

>Connection
Wired

>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech shitty K330

I think that Ducky Channel is my best option.
Any idea ?

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Rate

>>61673163
Which linear is your favourite? Also do you always bottom out? I want to try out something different after browns and was thinking about the linear route.

>>61673201
>So are we all agreed:
No.
It's personal preferences.
Stop trying to validate yourself with shit like this. Be OK with people liking shit you hate.

>>61673230
Not a fan of light-colored text on white keycap.
So no.

>>61673163
>Admitting that something is simply different than what he's used to but still calling it shit instead of just different tastes..
You were so close, anon.

>>61669812
Too scratchy and plastic-y for me, at least in the corsair and ducky ones I've tried in store and from friends.
Got a board with gateron reds, the smoothness is great on them, they don't feel at all scratchy or plastic-y.
Funnily enough, I prefer my gateron reds for typing and blues for gaming, text just flows on the reds whereas the clicky tactility of the blues helps with key repetition in game. Though the general consensus on that is the other way around, so your mileage may vary in that regard.

>>61673275
The switches I've used for two years are cherry blacks. I tried reds a long time ago on a keyboard at a store and they felt too light but now I want to try them again. I bottom out most of the time.

>>61673275
Linear is... linear. There's nothing in between to judge or measure. It mostly come down to the weight, ala red vs black.

>>61673342
If I were to blindly buy new linears I'd probably get something Gateron manufactured with a similar or slightly heavier weight than cherry blacks

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>>61668058
So what are the cheapest, thickest PBT keycaps I can get. Say, sub $30. I don't care about printing/doubleshot, color, or anything like that, just some price, thicness, and enough keys to cover a TKL keyboard.

>>61673378
Pretty sure even the cheap Taihao ones are like $40 man.

>>61673378
>>61673419
http://www.geekkeys.com/keysets/

This has sub $30 pbt that arent thin as paper

>>61673378
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NPKC-Blank-side-printed-Cherry-Profile-Thick-PBT-Keycap-ANSI-ISO-layout-For-Cherry-MX-Switches/32807123075.html

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Should I do it?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MS8YTYX/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

>>61673498
For $15-$17, that looks hella tempting, probably gonna pull the trigger based off of geekhack and other sites alike are saying about their texture and girth.

>>61673419
On aliexpress, I found some sets around $31, but the other set look so tempting compared to that.

>>61673525
:thinking:

>>61673527
Brother has the full sized one, keys are scratchy af and the tactile bump is barely noticeable.

>>61673230
a e s t h e t i c

>>61673129
No. Unicomp has no idea how to make keyboards. All what they know what to do is press a button and wait for shit to come out.

>>61673525
are those DSA?

>>61673704
It's cherry profile.

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>silenced NT a year ago
>redone the process 15 times, because i was not satisfied with result
>spacebar is fucking pinging, too lazy to open it up again

>>61673602
I think they recently switched to Outemu switches, do you know if your bro had that or the zorros that they used to use?

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Anyone here use a MasterKeys Pro L? Looks pretty good to me. Any problems with it?

>>61671279
Not him, but clearly YOU dont know what meme means, you fucking retard
Lurk more

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>>61668058
Hello guys, my first post and thread here, so let's hope this goes well ;)

Here it is:

It only cost me 8£ brand new. Why is it good you ask? I shall tell you.

Well, first of all: this keyboard is from Logitech, which is undoubtedly the best keyboard manufacturer today.

It is a rather common keyboard, yes; but because it is a Logitech, somehow it doesn't feel cheap. It's like the brand itself makes a crappy keyboard turn into a great one. I don't know, Logitech has always made me feel comfortable with cheaper products.

The keys are superbly well distributed, and your fingers won't touch the surrounding keys like some other ones I've tried. The keys are also not very soft, nor very hard to press down on. You know, this keyboard makes it just right, so that you can actually take advantage of the impulse that the rebounding keys give you.

This keyboard makes you feel like gravity is actually working WITH you, rather that against you.

Another thing I absolutely love about it, is the space bar. It is just the right size, and not too small or too big like on some other crappy keyboards from other manufacturers. The space bar is the most balanced key in the whole keyboard, it sits right at the center, and you can actually use it without looking at the keyboard. I mean, that's just brilliant design.

It's an USB keyboard. This makes it perfect for use with modern computers, and even laptops and netbooks. No more using that old crappy PS/2 port. We're in 2017, people.

I could be here all day, but in the end, I just wanted to share with you my experience with this marvelous piece of peripheral engineering.


I recommend this keyboard to anyone.

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>>61674015
>this keyboard is from Logitech, which is undoubtedly the best keyboard manufacturer today
I disagree, but it's nice that you enjoy your keyboard.

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Will DSA keycaps be better for a person who always typed on notebook keyboards?

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New keycaps and keyboard

Also I'm Hank apparently

>>61671444
Have you ever fucking used a model M? The 2kro applies to specific key combos hardly ever pressed in normal use. You can game and type on it without issue.

>>61674381
are there significant adventages of kana input over romaji?
I get that should be twice as fast in theory but is it?

>>61674015
I used this to play pokemon for like 7 hours. My fingers were cramped as all fuck. Good for typing tho

>>61668991
Ok, I'm another anon but doubleshot is obviously on the left

/v/ has a thread on keyboard switches if anyone fancies getting unreasonably angry at a bunch of fucking idiots

>>61674946
I think we're doing that here just fine already.

>>61673929
It's Coolermaster so they don't know if they should market to typists or gamers, so it comes off weak sauce. Quality is Ok, better than $39 RGB boards.

>>61674571
No. Most Japanese people use romaji input.

>>61674292
I don't think it makes as much of a difference as the angle of your case and the key travel. Those two are harder to get used to than the keycaps.
DSAs are nice though, they look good. Up to you if they justify the $20-$30 premium.

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>Tealios
>Zealmeme Linear Switch
But why?

>>61673932

Coined by Richard Dawkins before you were born, a meme is a unit of measure of cultural transmission of a notable idea, behavior, or style.

Me saying I like or dislike brown switches, or a bunch of people like them is only a meme in the sense that people try them because of the recommendation of another or it is an available consumer choice, the same as ordering sausage on your pizza. However, the fact that something is popular is not a meme in itself, that's not the point...nor is you and every other tard on /g/ calling consumer trends in niche markets memes in order to describe the smallest amount of popularity only when you feel its popularity is undeserved or the product is over-hyped like a bunch of edge-lords.

>>61675717
>see term used in subculture
>google it and tell subculture he is using it wrong
How fucking dumb are you?
Go back to >>>/reddit/

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>>61669416
I'm right there with you, I spent $178 on mine. I was even stupid enough to buy the matching braided cable with it too.

what was that website for learning touch typing that was on the general a few weeks ago?

>>61669812
Lesser Gateron Reds. Gaterons are the king when it comes to smooth, especially with linears.

>>61673152
I've demoed both, personally 55g is to weighty for me. If you like say blacks, go for it. 45g on fc660c is fantastic.

>>61669907
People are only getting Outemu Purples because they're new, and the community is always hungry for 60-ish gram tactile switches. Surprise, Outemu switches are still shit like they've always been, and their notorious inconsistency still exists too. The interesting thing is that the pins on the bottom of the switch are these special hot-swappable pins. Can you even solder those things anyway?

Haven't been here for a while
How is wireless HHKB? Anyone has it?
What about silenced RF?

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>>61670321
Why didn't you give your father a good keyboard?

>>61675787
Keybr

>>61675354
Well, at least it uses Gateron housing (I think), so it won't be as bad as those MOD linear switches. Looks like the only difference to regular Gateron linears is the clear bottom housing.

It's basically being made by Zeal because he knows the retards on Reddit will buy anything he shits out, including his stupid $40 stabilizers.

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>>61673129
just find an SSK

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>>61668058
Alright boys, looks like this shit is dropping on Assdrop. Is anyone here actually interested? PBT instead of ABS at least makes these viable, but has anyone ever tried XDA profile and actually liked them?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-mito-xda-godspeed-custom-keycap-set

>>61675991
>Keybr
thanks!

Asked yesterday as well, but is it common for Unicomp Model M's to be very squeaky and squishy/wobbly at the bottom and side casing? Given how people say that they are built like tanks, I don't get that impression at all. Feels a bit cheap desu. There's a small gap between the top and bottom parts where I can push down a bit. It's fine when I'm typing on it, but picking it up it feels and sounds like any old, cheap rubberdome.

Also didn't realize that they switched positions on RWin and Alt Gr. A bit bummed out...

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>>61676102
yes
they're fucking cheap
the plastic casing and metal back plate are thinner and shittier than original model m's

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>>61675752

Yea, keep sounding like lazy idiots with limited vocabularies because all you read are 4chan comments all day by all means.

>>61676095
Oh look, yet another overpriced keycap set with the uniform profile meme. Nope, I'm sick of that shit. I'm guessing they'll have the same shitty quality as SP keycaps.

Sent from my keyboard with EnjoyPBT keycaps

>>61676058
They used to be 100-150 bucks a few years ago. If I had known they were gonna double in value I would've bought more. I'm happy with the two I've got tho.

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>>61676280
>complains about SP's quality
>when he uses keycaps from a manufacturer that thinks this is acceptable

>>61676386
Works on my keyboard :^)

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>>61676133
Well, yeah, I wasn't expecting it to be on par with the original. I did however think that it would be a step up over other vintage rubber domes. Had this IBM rubber dome at hand and this one felt more sturdy than my Model M.

Not sure if I'm going to keep it or sell it on. Did buy it second hand/at auction, so didn't pay full price at least.

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>>61676280
The guy that makes the caps had to go through all sorts of bullshit to get his last XDA set to come out properly, so who knows what'll happen when people actually get their sets. And I completely agree that DSA and XDA are total shit; never used SA, but it doesn't seem comfortable. Cherry to bust.

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>>61676363
yeah i had paid something like 190 for my chewed up one
with bolt modding and new springs i could probably sell it for $100 more

the only ones i'm seeing now are jackasses selling NIB ones for $600

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>>61669416
>I spent $280 on doubleshot ABS
>>61675767
>I'm right there with you, I spent $178 on mine.
Those are fine... if you use nitrile gloves with them.
Try to sell them before it's all shined up and worthless.

>>61672189
what's a good switch mr internet arguing

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posting a 2004 pro 1 and a 2012 pro 2 :)

>>61673230
stale meme

>>61668058
Sup /mkg/.The day I feared the most has arrived: my old shit wireless keyboard that came with my first prebuilt desktop PC started giving me problems, meaning I now need a new keyboard, and since I have to spend money, I want to spend them on something good. I never went into the realm of keyboards, so be patient, please.

>Budget
No more than the point of diminishing returns for this kind of products: you know better than me.
>Location (continent at least)
Italy.
>Preferred switch type
Absolutely no idea. I can tell you I tend to press hard on the buttons while playing, if there's the need to rule out particularly delicate switches.
>Layout
Italian 105 - ISO
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
No.
>Previous/current keyboards
Irrelevant.

>>61677243
nice setup.
lol'd at that chinkpad sticker. kek. who the fuck would want that logo on anything?!

>>61677083
>eh buys keycaps as an investment

>>61677532
cheers m8
I happen to really like thinkpads (modern ones, not the old shit they recommend over on tpg)
I bought an old t61 just for that sticker because the blank space on hhkb's really annoys me.

>>61677547
>investment
>flushing down >$200 after 6 months
ok kid. once you start working and earning a paycheck, you'll realize how stupid it is to throw away money like that.

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>>61677580
sure, buddy

>>61670172
Are you me? Hi, Ohioanon.

>>61677587
put your gun away you faggot

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>>61677621
oh shit, i'm sorry

>>61677658
Not capable of fighting like a man m8?

Nice board anyway, though idk why you went for a type s. They are plagued with problems ranging from the plastic cases warping to fart sounds on the domes depression.

>>61676518
Did I get memed on the Braun caps?

>>61677703
>fart sounds on the domes depression.
It's a feature

>>61677756
Probably. Look on the bright side though, you bought into the XDA meme early enough to avoid the legal shit currently going on between the two chinks who invented it.

>>61677815
You should apply to work for apple LOL

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>>61677703
>uppity minorities deserve a fair fight

funny i haven't experienced anything like that with my type s
mine must be defective

>>61668058
I have no mechanical keyboards knowledge, but those look really sexy

What's your dream mechanical keyboard

>>61677995
A full programmable compact 1800 (function row touching numrow) with a split space. Which I already have, and it's so good I don't think I'll ever buy another keyboard.

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>>61677995
already got it

>>61677950
Yours is obviously one that wasn't defective, have a read around on reddit, deskthority, and geekhack. They are common issues for the type s.

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>>61678032
lucky me

>>61677402
Unicom model m in italian iso

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My 5 years old Dell rubberdome used to feel so good and now feels so mushy.
I want to switch for a realforce. Do topre domes age well?
My desk is close to a window and receives full afternoon sunshine.

How long until enjoypbt dye subs start to wear off or get shiny?

>>61678082
pro 1 from 2004 owner reporting in.

Topre does get stiffer over time, but not the same type of stiffness as membrane domes which tend to bind and become unusable. They just become more firm - 45g becomes 55g for example.

>>61678098
I have an old one I got from imsto a while back that still looks fresh. I've switched to gmk keycaps anyway cause they feel better

>>61678123
Just stiffer or it start feeling like jelly?
Did the plastic became yellow over time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c33WsArbzaw

I miss the old keyboards

>>61678185
The case is ABS so it does yellow over time. The keycaps are thicc PBT so they will outlast the keyboard

>>61678185
>>61678185
They become stiffer, if the domes are depressed for long periods of time (when they are stored incorrectly with the keys actuated) then the domes lose all tactility, but when used normally and stored correctly they just get a little stiffer. The pro 1's will yellow because the case is made from ABS plastic, the Pro 2's are all PBT except for the spacebar

>>61678223
Hey, thats the guy that triggered reddit and geekhack.

What the hell kind of "hybrid" switches are these?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16823201108

>>61678336
probably dome with slider or some chink shit that no one cares about.

>>61678073
Can't really find it.

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>>61678264
https://geekwack.org/index.php?topic=83635.0

he stole renders REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61678396
send them an email and they will make one for you.

>>61678576
>navigate throgh Unicomp's website
>find the configurator
>black Ultra Classic 105 in Italian language
>90$
>estimate shipping: 58$
>148$
>22% VAT at the custom
>180$
>150€

Holy fuck!

>>61678407
I like how all those idiots and the "creator" of SA Penumbra ignore that it's just a clone of http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized

Fighting about who "owns" color schemes is so fucking pathetic

>>61678793
yeh unicomp fucking suck for anyone outside of the states. Maybe ask a yank on deskthority or geekhack to order one for you and then ship it for you at a lower price.

>>61679036
Plus, didn't the original 'designer' of the colourway - pre custom keycap colour - say he has no problem with people using it? It's fair game desu

>>61679051
If I understand correctly, Unicomp is the one that's been making IBM's keyboards since the very beginning, and those keyboards enjoy a good reputation.

150€ is a massive amount of money, but I can even think about spending them if it's REALLY worth it, after all I'd use it extensively, and if it's really that good, I would never buy a new one ever again.

I just wonder if there are good alternatives for cheaper.

>>61679247
Why do people say that unicomp's cases are thinner and squeaky than old ibms if the tooling is still the same?

>>61679247
>I just wonder if there are good alternatives for cheaper
search ebay for an original model m

>>61679301
the new case is shittier
the classic might be better, idk, looks like the original

the steel plate the keys are mounted on is definitely thinner

>>61679301
Old tooling? Only guessing.. but kinda how Cherry vintage blacks are generally really smooth compared to their more modern switches.. old moulds lose degrade over time and thus the product quality falls.

>>61679302
That would be an used keyboard though. I'd prefer a brand new one.
>>61679343
>the new case is shittier
>the classic might be better, idk, looks like the original
It takes more space for no reason at all
>the steel plate the keys are mounted on is definitely thinner
Does it make any difference?

>Budget
200$ at the MOST
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
MX reds or browns should be fine. Im easily persuaded tho
>Layout
Any
>Form factor
Any
>Backlight
Seems kinda pointless so no

>>61677950
having a BLACKED deagle

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>>61679429
yeah, the heavier plate doesn't flex

i had to send my mine back since one of the hammers got out of place

i'm using it right now though

unicomp just really doesn't compare to a good intact old model m
every part is just a bit more warped, lots of flashing, dyesubs might not be lined up right, little things that just add up

>>61677402
>>61679429
Do you want the absolute best keyboard money can buy? One that you will definitely never have to replace, one that you will use 20 years from now?

https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/

Don't spend $200 on a shitty flexing unicomp, or $50 on a cumstained, membrane one from ebay. Get a proper, solid metal Model F and never think about buying keyboards again.

>>61679693
how much are they paying you?

>>61679513
>yeah, the heavier plate doesn't flex
Is that such a big deal? I mean: compared to today's industry standard.
>unicomp just really doesn't compare to a good intact old model m
Still, I wouldn't buy a product that isn't new for my everyday use.

>>61679693
>Do you want the absolute best keyboard money can buy?
No. I want to spend money wisely: I don't want to buy a mediocre product, but I don't want to go far into diminshing returns land.
>that site
That shit might be able to withstand a nuclear war, but those prices are way too high for me.
>Don't spend $200
>Spend $400 for something a Model F
>numpad with integrated arrow keys
>no Ins/Del/Home/End/Pag keys
Anon, please.

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>>61679879
well i'm using my unicomp for work, with a cover over it

i did have to send mine back for repairs, that's going to really suck for you if anything is wrong with it

btw you can't take these apart to fix them, the inner part is permanently put together with plastic rivets, only way is to replace them with screws or bolts

>>61679693
I bought one, but that fucking autistic. post makes me want to do a charge back on it.

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where can i get some vim keycaps?

>>61680058
Wasd keyboards sell a couple vim set keycaps

>>61679879
>>61679247
See my complaints about Unicomp Model M earlier in this post.
>>61676102
>>61676438

To me the build quality feels cheap, for the sturdy and tanky reputation the Model M has. My Ducky keyboard feels more premium to me. However, I do enjoy typing on it and my WPM went up 5-10 (on typing tests at least) after a day when using the Model M.

I also didn't like that the Alt Gr changed position and will need to use AutoHotkey to modify, not having Alt Gr where my thumb is feels very weird and clunky.

Overall it's a good keyboard, but not the be all end all keyboard I was expecting.

>>61680121
i stand corrected. I just found them!

Thanks friend

for anyone else interested, http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keycap-mod-packs/hjkl-cherry-mx-keycap-set.html

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Where can I get some spherical keycaps? They are always over 200$ where im looking.
Well, the good looking mostly

>>61680058
Keep a lookout on r/mechmarket - a set just sold for 20 dorra

What's the closest switch to Buckling Spring? Or should I just bite the bullet and buy a Unicomp? I've never had a modern mechanical keyboard but I did like typing on an IBM Model M.

>>61679974
>>61680147
Thank you for your feedback. I guess that at this point I'll pass on the Model M meme.

What else does the market offers?

>>61672776
Pls respond.

>>61679879
not him, but you can order the Model F with a normal nav cluster if you want.

>>61680373
I hear matias clicky are pretty good. But you can't really replace the original.

>>61680290
Maxkey sells some for 80 bucks

>>61680431
It doesn't solve the economic problem: those keyboards are expensive as fuck.

>>61680378
Since youre in Italy nothing else is as good without spending 150+€
Maybe a ducky one with dye sub PBT keycaps, though there isn't any switch right now that can compete with buckling springs, other then that $400 model f

>>61680378
filco makes a board with an italian layout

>>61680426
Just go to your local one nigga

Best 60 percent keyboard?

>>61680711
gh60

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1096936157

Need some likes on my dota screenshot of my keyboard

>>61680471
Considering that the original IBM Model F was priced well over $1000 new with inflation, I'd say paying roughly $350-$450 w/ spare parts for an almost exact reproduction isn't so bad.

Relatively speaking though, I agree it's pretty heavily price for what's basically just an overbuilt 1980's keyboard. However it's a limited run so economically it doesn't really need to make that much sense anyways.

I just switched the caps on my cherry blacks from abs SA to pbt cherry profile and the sound is interesting. A lot of the keys make this crisp almost click like sound and I can't tell why. Sounds nice though.

>>61680889
I agree, they are steep, but the ultra compact f77 is end game material for me.
They are fully programmable as well. Or so Joe claims, but I looked into the controller they use and it seems like they are.

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Why is the best form factor (75% / 84 key) and the best switch (MX Clear) both vastly underrepresented ? Why do they both tend to be less common?

>>61680495
That would cost exactly the same as the Unicomp, with the added unknown of the switch to choose.

>>61680889
I'd be happy to have a comparable build quality in a reasonably priced package: after all I personally don't care about the fact it's an almost exact reproduction of an already insanely expensive "historical" keyboard.

>>61680948
Yep I agree too, an F77 with the HHKB/Sun layout and num+arrow key cluster is pretty much end game for me. Can't get here soon enough.

Also it uses a modified version of the xwhatsit controller so it should definitely be reprogrammable.

>>61681036
There are plenty of 75% keyboards ranging form 40 bucks to $200. You just aren't looking hard enough. Clears have become more popular as even a couple of chink boards now have them, but they still are rare

>>61681079
Then let me know when there is a 75% available with clears that isn't horrendously overpriced like the KBDfans

>>61681064
I have a Filco and I would recommend it. The build quality is amazing, not to mention there is a huge modding community for it so you can get custom cases and controllers. The one problem is that the keycaps are some of the worst money can buy. They are absolutely terrible and you should replace them ASAP as even $20 chink PBT keycaps are better. The build quality of the case on Unicomp keyboards is worse, but their keycaps are some of the best I've ever seen. Even $80 EnjoyPBT sets are worse since any keycap longer then 2.25u seems to warp.

>>61681108
Magicforce 82 is like $120 and it comes with cherry clears.

>>61681198
It's a shame about those spaced out F keys in the top row. Could've been good

>>61681036
You can always change the switches yourself or build one from a kit.

>>61681064
You'd have a very hard time finding a keyboard similar in spec and price unfortunately. It's insanely overbuilt with full metal construction.

Aside from the historical factor, It's the only newly produced keyboard with capacitive buckling spring switches too.

>>61681156
>The build quality is amazing
>the keycaps are some of the worst money can buy
So it isn't that amazing after all.
>not to mention there is a huge modding community for it so you can get custom cases and controllers
I won't mod my keyboard even once.

For what I've been able to learn until now my options are

>Unicomp's Model M; might warp and bend, and it might need repair one day, but for the cost of shipping I might just buy a new one altogether; it has the best mechanics and buttons.

>Model F; built to last a nuclear holocaust, armageddon, and the sun's death, in this order; costs more than my budget for my next smartphone (there must be a Murphy's Law that says that electronics never fail alone); ships from overseas (meaning added costs, and murderous italian VAT). Also, it isn't a 105 keys 100% keyboard, and doesn't come with the italian layout.

>Filco; it is built well, but comes with shit keycaps, and I should spend more on it; sells from Europe.

Massdrop has 104s and 103s - shipping is $30 or something.

>>61681537
Keycaps are cheap tho. Though it would still end up costing as much as a model M shipped from America
Also massdrop has some model Ms for around $110 bucks shipped to italy, You can also replace the keycaps if you want the Italian legends

Maybe the italian guy could get something with matias clicky? I have no idea what the options and prices are so maybe someone can recommend, but the switches sound like something he'd like

>>61681887
>no Italian layout
His only option would be to get the custom 60% keyboard that kind of supports it, and it starts at $150

>>61680290
Buy an old board/terminal that has them already and convert it to USB. I swear, keycap sets and stuff are so fucking expensive when you can buy the actual stuff from the 70's and early 80's that they're based on for magnitudes cheaper.

>>61681108
ALU84 from MechKeys.ca is cheaper than KBD. Sandwich build, PS2avrGB, different layout options..

>>61681643
Massdrop's one is interesting: it would end up costing way 110€ instead of 150€, which is a good deal, basically because Massdrop's shipping doesn't cost 60 fucking dollarydoos, but I doubt I'd be able to convert it to an italian standard.

>>61681887
Thank you anon for your suggestion, however if what this >>61681938
anon says is true, then I'd exclude matias clicky because I want a 100% keyboard.

>>61682438
What's so special about Italian anyway? I'm really curious why it's so important

>>61682438
There is an Italian ANSI layout which 90% of keyboards support. The legends will be mismatched however, unless you get new keycaps

>>61681108
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/.../3034003_32819790747.html

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>>61682506

>What's so special about Italian anyway?
For the most part it's not that different: punctuation and symbols are in different positions, with some keys dedicated to accented letters, that are of wide use in italian. However the main difference is that the italian keyboard uses an ISO layout and compred to ANSI have the enter and backspace being of a different shape.

>>61682661
>>There's an Italian ANSI layout
Now I'm too much used to this layout to learn a new one, and also I firmly believe that it should be the product that should conform to the user and not vice versa.

>>61682661
That's just a PCB. If you include everything else it adds up to $120, and that doesn't include keycaps

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Inspired by anon above, what's the best deal on Japanese keycaps? I'd really like to get some because I'll be taking a japanese class in Sept.

>>61682822
The cheapest I can find are those mono-color sets for 40 bucks on aliexpress

>>61682754
So is the PCB outright different from standard iso or ansi? That's gay, I feel for you

>>61682822
I mean enjoypbt is the standard choice here

>>61682844
got a link anon? cherrymx?

mech keyboards are a meme moneysink

>>61682859
aliexpress.com

>>61682858
>I mean enjoypbt is the standard choice here
$200. yeah, no thanks. I can buy a whole japanese keyboard with caps, switches et all for that much.

>>61682885
Are you retarded the most expenisve EnjoyPBT sets are 50-90 bucks

>>61682877
Its funny since rubber domes are now more expensive then mechanical switches
https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rf104&pid=aeax0100

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>>61682917
>rainbow Topre

>>61682885
What the fuck are you looking at? Here: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/enjoypbt-keycaps-dye-subbed-keycap-set-117keys?variant=35672053453

There's also https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/japanese-dye-subbed-keycap-set if you want

>>61668058
I might need to replace the cable on my model m. It has a rubber thing covering the end of the cable so I am thinking it may not be removable. That rubber and the coating on the wires is all deteriorating.

Any suggestions?

>>61682858
>So is the PCB outright different from standard iso or ansi?
Exactly:
https://deskthority.net/wiki/ANSI_vs_ISO

>>61682858
I think he's just retarded, since the layout picture he posted is physically just standard ISO with a Corsair bottom row.

>>61682968
I would just replace it if you have one with a detachable cable.

>>61682754
Go to candykeys.com and get one of their made to order Varmilos with the Italian layout, piece of cake.

>>61682969
How is your link relevant, it just described the differences between iso and ansi

I think >>61682982 is right desu

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>planck kit still delayed yet again
>Bought it back in mid March
>Still don't know when it'll even ship
Last time I buy from fucking massdrop the normie shop. I deserve this

Also, can anyone recommend a good 65%-75% kit with mx style plate, led outputs on the board and maybe open source C driver? I wanna build another board and custom paint it and do my own switches and keycaps and back lighting.

Recommend me a wrist rest

>>61683384
A handtowel rolled up

>>61683139
That keyboard is LED lit. Dropped.

>>61683240
Sorry, I misread the sentence. What I wanted to say is that the italian keyboard uses an ISO layout and thus the PCB is different from an ANSI.

>>61683438
Can't you turn of the LEDs, or is that too difficult for you?

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>>61683384
Don't get one

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>>61683320
you bought one of these fucking things?

rip

>>61683711
How are people with broad shoulders supposed to position their wrists like top left

>>61683713
Yup. But even more meme-tier. Cherry greens and blank caps

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>>61683711
pshh what a poorly made info graphic

>>61673902
Just checked, they're the Outemu switches. They feel terrible vs cherry blues, razer greens, and gateron reds.

>>61669416
>I only spent$200 on mine :(

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>>61669888
This set is GMK >Terminal_

You can buy VIM caps but they're meh and not GMK glory

>>61684081
>Not GMK full set glory*
Forgot some words

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>>61668058
Since Cherry reds are scratchy shit switches, in a vacuum, how do Razer yellows compare to Gateron reds?
Not taking price, product, brand reputation, build or anything into account, just purely switch vs switch.
Greetech vs Gateron.

The reds I have and the yellows I've felt in store feel strikingly similar.

>>61683737
>broad shoulders
>computers
Play football instead.

>>61684114
But I'm a huge coward who doesn't want to get hurt.

>>61670526
I have no clue what I like since this is my first mechanical keyboard and I used chic let styles before that. I know that I don't really like the blues that I have.
I like how the browns felt except for I just want something a little stiffer. My blues feel too stiff. Maybe it's the keyboard itself? It seems well-built but I'm just not jiving with it.
>>61671384
Are clears stiffer than blues? They need more force it seems but they're linear so maybe that will fell better?
>>61677600
Sup brah.

I also forgot to mention that I'd like something with media keys if possible. I forgot how much I like being able to adjust volume and start/stop music/videos on the keyboard.

>>61675354
>Not enjoying 78g zeals
Pleb

>>61677580
Jokes on you
I spend my some of my paycheck on $200 plastic

>>61680058
Pleb tier Vim caps

>>61683737
Come to accept that, due to your physicality, normal keyboards are not a good ergonomic fit for you/
In other words, get an Ergodox or Mistel Barocco or something similar.

>>61684557
>the world has known ergonomics requires adjustable products to fit the user since the 50s
>keyboards with adjustable positioning are still a niche product in the 2010s
Sigh

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>>61684081
>>61684091
>spending $200 on an ABS keycap set

Has anyone tried the razer dome with slider?I just want to know how it compaires
>>61684020
>outemu bad
I know some that prefer them, I don't myself
then again I prefer ALPS

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>>61684635
i bought this set twice

>>61668752
I have a standard one, which I like, but I really wish I had gotten the clit version. I'm not sure if they had it available when I bought mine, though.

>>61668772
I can confirm that I think they are sitting on their lazy asses and refusing to fix their declining quality, much less actually improve an ancient product. They are a terrible representation of what an american keyboard should be. $80 is a good deal until you inevitably pay $50 for repairs (after shipping) when your KB inevitably breaks due to their absolute trash PCBs, plastic rivents, and USB cable attachment.

It's really too damn bad, because I still love the keyboard and type massive amounts on mine every day. Just can't beat that sound, feel, and PBT caps for $80.

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>>61670473
First reply got it right. I'd say a Model M (unicomp or otherwise, maybe a reproduction kishsaver if you're swimming in cash) with a set of unicomp's keycap sets with colored legends.

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>>61684686
>razer dome with slider
You mean like the ornata? That's just membrane with a mechanical leaf inside, the 'slider' is the keycap just like every other membrane keyboard.
Feels super clicky even by switch standards and as if it had really thick, soft o-rings on the caps. As someone who has blues with o-rings, I actually kinda like it. I'd consider them if the caps were replaceable and it weren't so much.

And I'm talking about outemu browns, I've yet to try the blues, but I've not heard about the blues being grainy and scratchy.

>>61684746
I just don't understand how a fellow gunfag can have such bad taste

Obligatory Kevpost

>>61684824
outemu blues are usually what I hear good things about with outemu
never really seen much happiness over their other switches

Also yeah I meant the ornata
not looking to get one myself but I'm very curious of what they did
maybe another brand will see this as a chance to make a less expensive clicky keyboard and massively undersell razer

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>>61684832
see well actually its your taste that's shit

have you considered that

>>61684832
>>61685028
I bet neither of you even have a hi-point
the toughest of hand gat problem solvas around

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>>61685205
guess you got me there

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>>61677402
>>Preferred switch type
>Absolutely no idea.

Go to your local computer and electronics stores, don't stop until you find one that has a few keyboards on display. Find out what kind of switch they use and try to type on them.

I personally absolutely require tactile switches and I mostly use the brown switches with o-rings on the keyboard - because it makes it close to silent. Yet I also have a keyboard with cherry mx blue which I only use when I'm alone - because those switches really do make your keyboard sound like a typewriter.

Some prefer cherry mx red. Some like spring switches.

You really should spend some time researching what kind of keyboard switches you prefer before you waste a lot of money on a keyboard.

>>Budget
>No more than the point of diminishing returns

If you want a totally fine mechanical keyboard then see what the prices are for the Fnatic Gear Rush Gaming Keyboard in Italy, it's probably quite affordable there like it is in the rest of the EU and it's got cherry mx switches. It also has that non-standard bottom row (meaning it will be harder to replace the keycaps, but given that you don't want to spend a lot of money you won't be doing it anyway). It comes in variants with all the usual switches and it's a fine keyboard. If you want fancy things you don't need like RGB backlight then you're looking at twice the price.

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>>61676058
They are crazy expensive. There's a clean one on eBay right now and they want something absurd like $450 or something. I offered $300 and they counter offered $420. Plus I game quite a bit so I'd need to do that mod thing where you put another PCB in it to give it more than 2KRO, I forget what it's called.

If I had known KBP V80 Matias Click keyboards were such dogshit I would have just bit the bullet and bought a Model M SSK. I really can't wrap my head around why Unicomp wont make SSK's, even if they were like $200 I'd buy one in a heartbeat. It can't be that fucking hard if they have the tooling, there's that guy making Model F's in his garage and he wants $350 for them.

>good non-cherry mechanical keyboards are like $30 now (e.g. victop)
>cherry mx keyboards are still $120
???

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>>61683320
I cancelled it and ordered KBDfans 40% that arrive soon.
But I may buy Assdrop Preonice.

>>61685711
>guy making Model F's in his garage
good one. Its a factory in China
If you want SSKs then look on geekhack or deskthority

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>>61685848
>good one. Its a factory in China
Then how long until it gets chinked and I can buy a Model F on AliExpress for $20 shipped?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/0837L-06C20-6V-0-3A-2mm-0-2kg-First-Stroke-Push-Solenoid-Electromagnet-with-Base/271967978003

Is there any way to make dis work in a Unicomp?

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>>61685749
Yeah, no-name mass produced keyboard from China really are very cheap. And I'm going to find out how good they are because I ordered myself a $40 Elephone keyboard today.. so I'll probably share just how good these cheap ones from China are in a few weeks (or months). Elephone is known for cheap phones so that will be interesting.

One tell-tail sign that what you call "victop" isn't all that though is that there is no keyboard manufacturer named victop, it's just a series of cheap keyboards sold under a bunch of names. VicTop i-500 is the same as "VicTsing I-500", Mpow i-500 and so on. It will probably break within a few days or weeks.

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>>61684746
>i bought this set twice
$400 for <$3 worth of resin.
talk about being retarded...

pic related.

>>61685864
well seeing as how they are made close to cost, I'd say never. Because the switches are capacitive they require a lot of metal. Even if you replace all the non essential metal with plastic, you'd only save 100 bucks

>>61685749
You sure? Data911 and G80 POS have cherry MX switches and cost 30-50 bucks. Stop looking at gaymer boards

>>61685946
What's the cheapest TKL with Cherry MX blues?

>>61682822
You could literally just use a Romaji IME mate.
クソ外人。アホか。

>>61685938
>you'd only save 100 bucks
well, when they are currently around $350 that some pretty big savings.
I'd be down for a "budget" version of them.

>>61686302
>>61686302
>>61686302

NEW

>>61685958
Theres a turtle beach one for 50 bucks

>>61684158
>Are clears stiffer than blues? They need more force it seems but they're linear so maybe that will fell better?
clears are much stiffer than blues and they are not linear.

>>61670321
I like the look of that more than I thought I would. And I'm with you on the Romer switches, although for $80, this doesn't look like a bad purchase at all.

>>61673129
>>61673650
>>61684777
>>61668772
Seriously, though. Unicomp is sitting on (in my opinion) the best switches in the industry, so it sucks that they're just content to sit by and make the same three keyboards until the end of time. If they branched out into some newer designs, they would make a killing.

>>61684848
if they made a non-backlit 'stealth' version for like, $40, it'd be pretty tempting, not gonna lie.
They don't seem to have the same fatiguing effect regular membranes have, they may be using softer domes and using the leaf to help or something.

>>61685925
The i-500 is actually surprisingly good, and has very decent build quality for the price.

I've also never seen the mpow brand

I need some good alternatives to gateron browns, I'm going to try mod-m's in a few days, do you guys think its worth to bother with other than gat browns for tactile?

>>61688334
Why are you asking us if you're going to try them? You're better equipped to decide than most people itt, especially since you're the only one who knows your own preference properly.

Also use the new thread, this one is about to die