/pcbg/ PC Building General

vega will be $800 i can feel it
nothing good happens these days

>>61618691
>believing memes on an anime imageboard

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Router question. I couldn't find anything in the wiki regarding this.

Can anyone recommend an 8 (at least) port gigabit or higher router that can be flashed with Tomato or other custom firmware?

>R3 1200 - Budget builds (<$500)
Oy vey

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j8CjVY
Thoughts?

Did they ever come up with a fix for the segfaults on ryzen yet?

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>expensive beautiful case on the table
>cheap Ugly case under the table
Which one?

>>61618795
the beautiful case.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BZDBnn

How we looking lads.

>>61618844
go away

>>61618844
If you can afford 10 bucks you can get the G4600. Otherwise that is a good build.

>>61618854
will you come with me bb

>>61618844
>>>/v/

>>61618844
Get the Evga W1 500 instead of the antec psu

>>61618874
*tips*

>>61618801
recommend me a one?

feel bad for anyone building a pc at this time..

GPUs and Flash memory are in shortages, ya'll are fucked

>>61618990
beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Pick one that isn't a budget case (so anything $50+) that you like the look of and don't think you'll tire of for years.

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Will GPUs ever return to their original prices

>>61619053
No

Hows it looking guys ?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8xKYFd

>tfw the linux compiling meme after getting a 1600

>>61619091
You can afford a seasonic PSU

what's the white man's graphics card

>>61619091
Unless you're aiming for a strivt 144 fps in gaming and have a monitor to match, you'd be better off with a Ryzen chip.

>>61619118
gtx 1070.

>>61619091
like shit

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>>61618652
I'm unironically thinking of buying this PC, talk some sense into me anons. I'm a heavy gaymer so Poozen is out of the question. I already have the ssd and the PSU from my old build.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hjMRPs

>>61619444
>1000W PSU
No

>>61619444
>I'm a heavy gaymer
>7820X
but those are worse in gaming than Ryzen. Ryzen is only a few percentage points worse than a 7700K which is still the best for gaming.

>>61619473
LMFAO

>>61619444
>heavy gaymer so Poozen is out of the question
Wait for 2000$ 18 core Intel so that you can get those sweet coars without sacrificing any single core performance.

>>61619091
If you're going AIO Liquid cooling, go 280mm or go home.

>>61619488
All the test and the people I've talked to told me 7820x is slightly better in gaming. It has higher IPC and freq. You need to heavily OC a 1700 to get similar fps to a stock 7820x.

Obviously 7700k is king but I'm not going to buy a corelet CPU.

>>61619543
No need, 8c/16t is plenty for me.

>>61619444
>Buying intel at twice the price, same multicore performance
>Falling for GAYMING motherboard meme
>1000W lowest tier 80+ certification
Are you going to upgrade to 4 graphics cards, or do you just like to fill up the space in your case?
>Cheap HDD, Cheap PSU
These are the only 2 parts than actually break and the PSU can even kill other components.
>32 gb ram for gayming
Are you going to be gaming in a virtual machine?
You still can't fit gta 5 on a ramdisk.

>>61619584
>wtf is sacrasm?
8c/16t is plenty for gaming so why would you go above 4c/8t? You are basically throwing money in a pond.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cvMRPs

Please rate. I already have a 144Hz monitor, case and SSDs.

>>61619647
You look like the kind of guy that can afford a ASUS strix or EVGA 1080ti.

>>61619565
>the people I've talked to told me
Why the fuck are you asking /g/ if you already got an expert opinion. Your expert opinion is sure to be better than any 4chan troll.
>You need to heavily OC a 1700
Being this tech illitterate

>>61619647
spend more on the motherboard.

>>61619647
>being left handed

>>61619664
Almost 100 EUR difference here in yurop.

>>61619680
Any suggestions?

>>61619608
I don't care about CPU price I want the best gayming performance per core and that's Intel. Would have went with 7700k if it would have had at least 6 cores.

Didn't fall for GAYMING mobo, went with that one because the other ASUS boards have shitty Realtek audio chip while the STRIX one has Supreme FX audio

I already have the PSU from my old build, I took it to an electrician who checked inside and gave the OK. I'm not gonna throw it away if it works, get real dude. Certifications are a meme.

HDD I need a big one for storage, any recommendations? Don't shill me M.2 trash because I don't fall for memes.

RAM I admit might be overkill, but that's why I asked for advice

>>61619699
any restrictions? You chose an mATX mobo, and most of the ones I have in mind are full ATX

>>61619699
Wow. But yeah. 3 fans vs 2 fans. MSI gaming is really good if you don't want to spend. Your list is good.

Rate it: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b9g2cc

WHEN IS THE COST FOR RAM GOING DOWN

>>61619705
My only restriction is that the price is below 120 EUR.

>>61619706
Thanks my man.

Does anyone here have any experience with water-cooling? I would love to try it but I don't know where to begin. EK's Fluid Gaming series seems nice since it has a gpu block. It's also 1/3 the price compared to what EK's configurator said a custom loop would amount too ($250 vs $700). I'm currently using the stock Ryzen cooler

>>61619708
Awesome build. I have the same thing. Why won't my monitor display anything?

>>61619640
I need some for productivity aswell but I'm not willing to sacrifice gayming performance
basically.

>>61619668
Am I not allowed to ask? If you on't want to help don't respond then, easy. So far I've seen zero arguments from you other than dude ryzen.

so vega changed nothing as expected

>>61619717
MSI B350 Tomahawk, Asrock B350 fatality or Asus Prime B350 Plus

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3XDBnn

What do you think of this? I have a decent GPU and SSD that I can use.

>>61618795
Cheap case as long as it has decent air flow. Who gives a fuck about aesthetics?

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>tfw when got GTX 1080ti i7 7700k pc from old people for 100$
Story
>Neighbors kick away their son for some reason (i think it's mostly because they knew he sells drugs)
>Next day they are throwing his stuff
>See him struggling with a pc
>Go outside to help him
>Ask him if he needs help
>"Yes, thanks. i am clearing my son's room since he moved out"
>Help him.
>Leave pc to the end
>Finally finished
>Ask him to buy the pc and He agrees
>"How much do you want for it"
>"100$"
>Ok give him money and go back home
>Check pc specs
>Start jumping around like an autist

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>>61619784

>>61619785
Holy fuck
Are you gonna keep it? Sell it as a whole? Take it apart and sell parts?

>>61619816
I am keeping it. I don't want to go back to my shitty i3 pc

>>61619816
he's probably gonna run crysis on it

>>61619785
their son will be back.
He'll find you.

>>61619838
That's why i am searching for a new house. I don't own the house that i am living in now so it's not a problem for me

>>61619704
>I don't care about CPU price I want the best gayming performance per core and that's Intel. Would have went with 7700k if it would have had at least 6 cores.
Then buy 2 pcs and get the 7700k and a 18 core Intel or 2 32 core EPYCs. Why is it so hard to think critically about your own arguments?
>shitty Realtek audio chip
Get a DAC and a cheaper mobo then.
>Falling for "Master general of master generals supreme HIFI HD definition FX audio" marketing
>A hdd for storage
You would probably want to get multiple HDD in some redundant raid if it is for storage.

>>61619733
>Am I not allowed to ask? If you on't want to help don't respond then, easy. So far I've seen zero arguments from you other than dude ryzen.
>Commiting a fallacy
>Defends the fallacy
>This authority who I won't name says this therefore I am right.

>>61619811

>must choose case now my son
>fine craft box designed for option flow or air to components to keep house free from fire
>or
>bangladeshi sweatbox with no logical thought into having additional components
>...

>>61619664
Which 1080 ti do you think is the best?

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>>61619870
>>61619891
Ok I get it now, you're autistic, have fun shitposting, kids

>>61619930
>must choose case now my son
>A beautiful case that you can put on your desk confidently that has a higher value if wanted to sell later and you can add to it a beautiful water-cooling that has lower temps and better overclocking
>or
>a ugly case that you hide under the table so no one can see it with a lot lower value if wanted to sell pc later

>>61619974
>you are autistic
>Look at this cool gif i have

>>61619974
Have fun gaming adult.

>>61618844
looks okay but
>cheaper motherboard, $60 - $70 is the sweet spot
>cheaper ram, that cpu can't even utilize that ram at full speed, get 2133mhz
>cheaper ssd

>>61618844
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MDDBnn

>>61619969
All 1080ti variants perform within 5% difference of each other and even then the difference is due to the silicon and not the variants. So the only difference you are paying for is for the cooler, fans and features.

EVGA and Asus one runs the coolest and quietest according to benchmarks. Which is no surprise since their coolers are big as fuck and have triple fan.

Outside of these more premium brands, MSI gaming X and the Gigabyte Aorus is the best

I been trying for over two hours to line up my motherboard with the standoffs on my case and it wont line up once I insert the IO ports to the IO shield, any help?

>>61620345
what motherboard and what case? post pics

>>61620361
The case is the NZXT H230 and the motherboard is the Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3

>>61620377
those seem to be compatible, post pics

>>61620345
Post pictures?
Did you use a little bit of force?

>>61620448
I just tried using a bit of force and so far 4 of the 6 holes went through so I'm guessing it worked

>>61620466
where are the other 2 standoffs

>>61620466
Yeah you have to use a little force with the standoffs. They won't fit in nicely otherwise

Why not just get a superior mac?

>>61620475
Doing them now but they are kinda hard since they are close to the wall of the case
>>61620499
That does seem to be the case

>>61620506
>mac
>superior
pick one. You overpay for inferior equipment they refuse to fix WHEN it breaks in order for force you to buy more expensive shit.
Windows and Linux are used to run the Hadron collider.
Macs are used to fill landfills.

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What motherboard is recommended? I just bought a tempered glass corsair case so I want something that looks nice. My other specs if you need them: msi armor oc 1080 gtx, i5 7600k with a stock intel cooler, 2x8gb ram - generic ones with no weird cases. I think I'm using an m.2 ssd? It lies flat on my current motherboard. Any help is greatly appreciated.

>>61620623
Why do you need to upgrade your motherboard?

>>61620627
Because my current one is kinda ugly and wouldn't do the case justice. Vain reason I know.

Ryzen 1700 or i7 4790K?

>>61620678
depends on your needs.
if just gaymin go for the 4790k because it's cheaper and slightly better single core. if doing anything more dependent on more threads then go for 1700 and oc it to 3.8 - 4.1ghz.

>>61620700
What if I need both virtualization and gayming?

>>61620727
go for the 1700 my man. what gpu will you be pairing it with?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/foxhunt/saved/hWnWZL thoughts ?

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>>61620762
With a GTX 980 Ti.

>>61620774
pretty good actually, maybe consider a cheaper ssd or wait for a sale

>>61620774
2x4GB RAM would be better unless you're planning to upgrade to 16GB soon-ish. The 750 EVO isn't really very good, especially when you can get 850 EVO for less money.

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I've been building on mine for the last 4 years straight, I just dropped 60 bucks on a Corsair pc lighting kit. I have issues.

>>61620774
actually think I might change the mobo to Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 (rev. 1.0)

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Here is my current build. Been tweaking on it forever. Kinda wish I hate waited another generation for my cpu/mobo just to get the most outta m2 speeds, but ah well. Will prolly do a rebuild sooner or later anyway.

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/tqD8TW

can you fit 1080ti and a 240mm water cooler in a mATX case?

>>61620996

Easily, but depends on the case. Which one were you thinking about getting?

I think you can fit like 2 240mm rads in a Air 240.

>>61621010
not been thinking too exactly on it, just sort of considering a build to make in a couple of months. not used mATX before. any idea?

>>61621037

I have an Air 540 and love it so I'd recommend it's little bro the Air 240. But there's also the 88r from Corsair which I hear is nice for the price. I typically build in Corsair cases since I've always had good luck with them, so I'm not too knowledgeable on other manufacturers to comment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnucbKyoUXI

>>61620979
m.2 is just a form factor, I think you're thinking of nvme

>>61621069

ya that's what i meant my b

>Budget: 1200-1400, the lower the better
>I will play a lot of FPS, and some other games like Civ6 and Witcher 3
>Monitor: 1080p, 144hz
>Goal: just want a pc that will play all games at 1080p ultra, and all fps at at least 144 fps

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Fuck I'm retarded here's the actual link

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wsJjVY

>>61621132
scrap the 1080 for a 1070 if you can. A 1080 is extreme overkill. Hell a 1070 is overkill but RX 580s and 1060 6GBs are fucked price-wise because of miners.
You can also grab a cheaper power supply.

>>61621058
i like the look of both of those, but something i didnt consider is that pcpartpicker claims the EVGA G2 650w wouldent fit in either. not sure if thats a mistake or what

>>61621132

For gaming I'd go with an i5 build. You only need 8GB of ram, and since it's getting cheaper I'd get the 550-575GB Crucial SSD that's out there now. It's only like 150.

>>61621162

That sounds like a mistake desu, I think any full size PSU can fit in the 240.

So my new Ryzen 1700X build is getting idle temps above 45C, that can't be normal right? It sometimes spikes up to like 60C for some seconds aswell. I've read that for the Ryzen X models the temp readings had an offset by like 20C, and I've updated my BIOS to the newest version but it made no change in the reads.
I've improved the airflow by installing another intake fan on the front and removing a HDD cage but that barely made a difference. Even when I try running the CPU fan at 100% it barely makes a difference in the temps, which makes me think something is wrong with my fan placement. It's a be quiet! Pure Rock which I could only mount so it the airflow goes towards the top of the case, which is covered in sound dampening material, instead of out the back. Could that be the issue? Another possibility could be that I stupidly had to re-apply the CPU fan like 3 times when building, which might have fucked up the cooling paste somehow?

>>61621132
Get the EVGA G3 PSU instead of the NEX, NEX is deprecated.

>>61619118
1080Ti

>>61619785
that was my pc

>>61618652
>R3 1300x - Good stop-gap between the 1500x and the 1200, only get a 1400 if you absolutely need multithreading

But you can achieve 1300x speeds with 1200 by just overclocking it. Skip the 1300x instead?

>I bought a Bitphenix Prodigy M
>It's shit

I'm going to build a PC. I'm certain that I'm going to build around the 1050ti (Zotac) now I just need other parts to match the performance without bottlenecking/overkill. I just want to play battlefield 1 at 60fps on medium 1080 and other 2007-2015 games maxed. I still want to be able to render videos fast. I'm not looking for anything super fast so the R5 1600 is too much. Just something cheap but reliable. I'm thinking of:
>Zotac 1050ti
>Ryzen 1300x
>AsRock AB350M Pro 4
>1x8gb RAM (to up it to 16 in the future)
>250gb SSD (Is Samsung 850 Evo the best budget SSD for $100?)(going to add a 1TB WDC Blue in the future)
>Seasonic M12ii 520 EVO
>LG 22MP58VQ
>some case

Is it fine for an basic build? I'm just sick of using my 10 year old dinosaur with the Pentium E6600 without any gpu. I've been playing dota 2 on lowest settings at 15fps ffs. My budget is around $800. Don't recommend other video cards. They sell 960s for $240 dollars but the 1050Ti is still safe at $160.

>>61621479
Get the 1200 instead and OC it, unless you don't want to then you're fine except for that ram, get 2x 4gb instead of 1x8gb if that "future" for the 16 is like next year.

>>61621479
>I just want to play battlefield 1 at 60fps on medium 1080
https://www.battlefield.com/games/battlefield-1/tech

>>61621243
What's the temp with side panel off? You might have fucked up the heatsink installation from your description

>>61621243
Ambient Temp?
Have you installed thermal paste before?
Are your fans in the correct direction?

>>61621243
Test it without the case to make sure it's not bad airflow

>>61618652
I'm building a VERY low end pc, I don't plan to play all the newer stuff, if it runs, good.

Already got some parts, just gonna buy what's missing, I would appreciate some opinions and advice, since it's my first build.

M5a78l-plus/usb3
FX-8300
8GB
GTX 1050

Should I change something? Can I run some decent stuff?

>>61621833
What exactly is your budget?

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>>61621728
>>61621770
>>61621791
Temps are pretty much the same with the side panel off, ambient temp around 25C. Pic related for fan placement. I really don't like that the CPU fan is right after the GPU and that the airflow goes to the top of the case, but that was the only direction I could mount this fan on the mobo.
The thermal paste was preapplied to the CPU cooler, but due to fuckups in mounting it I had to remove it and re-apply it a few times.

I just tried turning my computer on before putting in the graphics card and it didnt work so does anyone have a comprehensive guide on how to build once since I just failed?

>>61621890
I forgot to clarify: removing and re-applying the whole fan, not the paste itself

Recommendations on a quality PSU with no coil whine? I got a rm750i and it buzzes like a mosquito. Fucking corsair, never again.

>>61621890
is the cooler seated evenly on all sides? sometimes having one side loose can create uneven contact/

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>>61619704
Shit bait

>>61621159
>scrap the 1080 for a 1070 if you can. A 1080 is extreme overkill
No it isn't, you goddamn retard. He wants to play at 144Hz and even 1080 isn't going to that in most newer games at 1080p without lowering settings. Some don't even making fucking 60fps at 1080p without lowering settings using an overclocked 1080. I should know, I own one.

There's literally no such thing as "overkill", only how much you're willing to compromise.

>>61621180
>i5
Kill yourself.

>>61621976

single thread performance matters

>>61621083
The intel i7 7700k is maybe your only option for "strict" 144 fps (o closer) at that budget, the processor works well on FPS games but it may get maxed out in core/thread whore games like RTS games, when the processor is maxed out it begins to suffer for higher fps lows but it still maintains high FPS.

If you don't mind having 5% to 20% less fps then pick Ryzen 1600 OR 1700 + high frequency ram. This processor is newer and have lower fps lows.

The video card depends of your country prices, you need a GTX 1070 equivalent. New AMD cards are coming out in 4 days.

>>61621083
Ryzen 1600, GTX 1070

>>61622043
some corrections, you may get 144fps in most well optimized FPS games with a gtx 1070.

But if you really want to play most games without lowering graphics at 1080p/144hz then you need a GTX 1080 equivalent, specially for new upcoming games.

>>61621866
Well, I don't live in USA, so it's hard for me to say.

Will Vega be good?

>>61622354
>Well, I don't live in USA, so it's hard for me to say.
No it isn't, idiot.

>>61622371
Alright fucktard, I don't know shit about dollars, all i can say is my budget is as close as the parts I mentioned.

>>61622429
What does that have to do with anything, idiot? Besides, if you REALLY care about dollars so much, there's this thing called Google.

>>61622455
Jesus fucking Christ, are you going to help me or not?

>>61618775
>Spending 72$ on thermal paste. whew.
But then I realized this entire post is bullshit anyways. Oops

>>61621890
>>61621893
Ok so I downloaded HWinfo and checked the CPU (Tdie) temps which is supposed to show the real temps without the 20C offset, and it seems like there was no problem after all. So my 48C idle temp is supposedly 28C, which sounds a lot more reasonable.

Whole lotta stress over nothing

>>61622769
didn't mean to reply whoops

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wew

Hey /g/, what's a decent SSD for around $100?

next gen gpus when?

>>61623715
http://www.microcenter.com/product/465261/240GB_SSD_Plus

How much longer is the Wait for Vega™

>>61624015
1 day

>>61623718
tomorrow

>>61624015
a few weeks at most

https://mobile.twitter.com/RadeonPro/status/891109514845372417

Whelp. There goes my last hope of Vega being good.

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>8 gig vega card will be ~1100 dollars
What the fuck is AMD doing?

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okay this is what i'm going with. wish me luck for receipt from the merchants and then doing the actual build

first timer

>>61624174
>1050 ti
>1440p
Anon stop

>>61624174
I assume you'll be buying a better graphics card when prices normalize? if so, looks good

>>61624174
>he fell for the razer meme

i already have my main computer built and finished, should i change these peripherals at all?

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>>61624231

i'm not a smart man

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dVzBnn
Considering rollover upgrade
Like
SSD=>power+GPU=>??no idea
What SSD to buy if my C: is currently 140GB and i am pretty much fine with it so i guess 256Gb one is my choice, but i have no idea which one to buy
Also requesting GPU advices for like 2x (1 currently) 1080 monitors and sometimes games but i don't need ultras
Country is Ukraine but i planning some trip in proper Europe so i might buy something there idk
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance

>>61624206
that's the idea. we'll see what crypto does and go from there

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How accurate is this picture on AMD's website?

>>61624262
I should add that power supply is some noname shit which sometimes scratch loudly
And motherboard is unidentified in Windows but it's ASUS one as well

>>61624301
Likely not

Is the price 293 Euro a good price for a used GTX 1070? He says it's barely used and it makes no weird noises.
It just seems a bit too good to be true don't it?

>>61624301
You should look at actual benchmarks, not AMD's marketing material. That said, it looks reasonably accurate.

>>61624417
Why not 290?

>>61624301
its actually better in games because it doesn't stutter like the 7700k

>>61624262
PPS:
60 Hz

Is something like a 960 EVO even worth it (say the 250gb version is like 50 dollars more than a SATAIII type SSD)? At a certain point, the speed has to be overkill, right?

>>61624688

>stutter

i own a 6700k and when i run graphics benchmarks (i.e. Heaven), the only time i get dips in FPS is when they change scenes. other than that it's very consistent.

>>61624688
wut

>>61624665
Converted it from my country's currency to Euro. That's why it's uneven heh

>>61624775
Sounds a bit too good to be true, but I have made some shitty sales out of desperation in the past so you never know.

>>61624721
you'll only see all that speed if you do specific things, for normal world usage a sata ssd is just fine

>>61618652
>removed the g4560
I know you all are paid to shill but are you fucking kidding me? The money you save from it, alongside the cheaper mobo and RAM (Ryzen basically requires you to go 3200) can go towards a better GPU. And you can upgrade to an i7 AND Coffee Lake might be supported.

So my computer "professional" has put me together a gaming rig that doesn't have a heat sink. It's an i76800k which doesn't come with one and there's none listed on the quote. Is he retarded or am I missing something? Because as far as I've read on Google a heatsink is mandatory regardless of case fans.

Are there any good benchmark comparisons of the Rizen 3 (especially interested in the R3)/5 vs. the FX-8350? I Googled for some but I only find bullshit results.

>>61625340
Stop being a poorfag and buy a REAL 8 core CPU the 7820x.

>>61624301

pretty much spot on

>>61624748
that's a terrible analogy though. The stutter problematic isn't as bad as some people make it sound, but you obviously only notice it in heavily cpu intensive scenarios. Not graphics benchmarks.

>>61625340
just look up the usual review sites for their ryzen 3 tests? They should have at least some FX chips still in their test lineup. If not, they usuall perform a bit worse than sandy bridge i5s/7s in current, well multithreaded games. Worse in heavily IPC reliant stuff.

What's the best case in the $50-70 range? I prefer black. Also I don't want it to look like I'm on the spectrum.

>>61625506
>Sandy Bridge performance in current year is okay because poorfags
>doesn't even have the moar corez advantage
okay

>>61625556
>can't into reading comprehension
that's obviously referring to the piledriver

>>61625566
Piledriver is Q6600 IPC, Ryzen is Sandy Bridge IPC.

>>61625533
the define R4 black pearl can be had for about 70 eurobucks. No idea how its priced over the pond

>>61618652
Is it worth biting the bullet and going for a 1080ti?

It's literally the only thing in stock right now, my old gpu blew up (AMD 7970). I'm itching to play games again.

Are those new AM4 Raven Ridge APUs going to be quad cores? I want to build an AM4 build for as cheap as possible so I can upgrade to Zen 2 when it's released but I also don't want anything worse than what I have right now, a Thinkpad X230 with an i5 3320M.

>>61625273
>Ryzen basically requires you to go 3200
That's just wrong. Even with Ryzen you get diminishing returns from past 2666MHz and there's basically no difference between 3000 and 3200.

>>61625505
Wow. One whole cherry picked game. Sure, I know there are others, but Intel's only argument is going to be muh games, and only a subset of those even offer a slight advantage, it's going to be a long summer for intel.

>>61625606
>takes one point and ignores the rest
Good shill.
>>61625607
>it's cherry picked if Intel wins

>>61625590
>Ryzen is Skylake IPC.
FTFY

>>61625590
now you're making your bait to obvious

>>61625593
if you need a card of that caliber, sure.

>>61625597
as far as i know yes, but they won't pop up in retail for desktops until like Q1/Q2 2018. An overclocked BR cpu like the A12 9800 would be quite a bit faster than your current CPU and especially GPU, and could be turned into a nice HTPC when you upgrade

>>61625630
That's because I didn't have any issues with the rest of your post, retard.

>>61625273
If you only care about video games then go buy a console you dipshit, you have to be mentally disabled to buy a dual core CPU on a desktop in 2017

>>61625632
Bullshit. If that's the case the 1500x should pretty much be a 6700k. It's not, obviously.

>>61625651
b-b-but muh gaymes

>>61625651
>what are clockspeeds

>>61625651
At equal clocks it pretty much is.

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So my PC I've had for a few years now pulls so much electricity that I can't have anything more than a lamp plugged in lest it trip the circuit breaker and cut all power to my room. It does this in every room. Is something wrong with my power supply or what? Any ideas?

>>61625644
Obviously whoever is using the damn thing isn't going to use ot forever. When it becomes unusuable they can just get 7700. In the meantime it'll run basically anything. $40 is a big difference in the sub $500 range.

>>61625685
Source: your ass.

Lads will mining specific cards solve the supply crisis?

>>61625740
no because all the gaming ones were already bought, zero miners will replace their gaming cards with mining ones unless they break

>>61625693
sounds more like there's something wrong with your circuits. What are the circuit breakers your room is on rated for? 10 amps, 20 amps? Your PC really shouldn't draw anything close to enough to trip a breaker. And if it was a short it would trip the breaker immediately.

Are you sure it's not a GFCI or whatever you call those things in the US that's tripping?

>>61625740
no, until ASIC miners for the obscure shit that pushed the recent supply crisis are out it will probably be dead

>>61625740
why they didnt sync release mining cards with gaming cards is beyond me

>>61625804
because mining cards make no sense. No one knows when X cryptocurrency is going to start the next hype, you can't plan for it. From tapeout to products it takes at least half a year, and ramping up production takes months too. You can't design specific ASIC miners either because you don't know what obscure shit is going to be the next hype. If a cryptocurrency sticks around for long enough mining with GPUs gets inefficient and in additon ASIC miners get released. But then the next one creates the next hype and it starts from 0.

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>>61625853
if cryptos are the future then card prices are fucked forever

>>61625886
Blame AMD's incompetence the 1060s are already readily available again.

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>>61625886
Pls no

>>61625905
because the 1060s suck for mining. It has nothing to do with incompetence. The wafers are in factories for weeks until you get chips back, and fabs try to run as close to 100% capacity as possible. You can't just oder xthousand chips and have them delivered to your doorstep overnight.

>>61624708
>>61624321
>>61624262
Respond pls

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>>61625971
the sandisk ultra II is really cheap in germany right now and a decent SSD. apart from that there are your usual suspects like the samsung 850/950s, crucial bx100 and so on. Just check a price comparison website and then some benchmarks to make sure it doesn't suck completly. T here are usually no significant differences. Check if your PSU comes from a reliable OEM and replace it if it doesn't.

For a GPU, depends on what you want to spend. RX470s/480s are out of stock everywhere, so you might go for a 6GB GTX 1060.

Also isn't there a fucking civil war in the east of your country? And how could you cunts sell antonow to the chinks?

>>61625705
Again, the 7700 is only worth buying if you literally only care about video games. If your budget is really that tight then just buy something like this and put a GPU and 120GB SSD in it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Z420-Workstation-Xeon-Quad-Core-E5-1620-3-6GHz-4GB-1TB-NVIDIA-Win-7-Pro-NO-OS-/

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Some After Effects and Premiere, some gaming, light Photoshop/Illustrator, and then some media consumption.

3440x1440 the sweet spot here? I hear the aspect ratio is fantastic for films and working with timelines.

What's that website that tracks sales/discounts on components? I'm building a new pc but gonna use most of my old parts and replace them over time when deals are up

>>61626058

you mean pcpartpicker.com? it has current prices for tons of vendors.

>>61626055
yes. Get an IPS or at least a decent TN panel though

>>61626075

Oh thats what I was thinking of, thanks

>>61626055
If you're editing 16:9 content, then yeah, 21:9 is good as you have room for whatever you're working on + toolbars and shit. Otherwise I'd rather have two screens.

Having trouble with computer. I just moved everything from one case to another. The computer powered on a few times but now that I have everything set up proper, it boots but then the graphics card powers off. What did I fuck up?

>>61626055
I would rather just get two 4k panels with small bezels and stretch the windows across both of them if the bezel in between doesn't trigger your autism, gives you more usable screen real estate and is easier to adjust your workspaces with two separate screens.

>>61625792
It's rated for 20amps and gcfi

I think maybe there's a short on my side upstairs. Blah. I just wanted to make sure before I get a new power supply

>>61626202
again, does it trip the breaker or the GFCI? There should be an indicator. It might be possible that the PSU is tripping the GFCI, but it shouldn't trip the normal breaker (at least not if it's still working and not producing sparks and a terrible smell).

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wRvHM8

Does this look fine? I'm on a tight budget but it's going to be used for mixed use, music production in Ableton, Lightroom, Premiere, some Photoshop and some moderate gaming. I'm using a Thinkpad X230 as my main computer right now and trying to do photo and video editing on that is cancer so I just want something that performs better than what that does.

I'm going to upgrade the CPU and GPU later when Zen 2 is released, so I want to have good parts outside of that. Is the Asus motherboard fine?

The RX460 is really cheap in my local store, cheaper than the 550 and costs almost as much as the GT1030, but should I go for a Nvidia card instead? I don't really think I'll reap much of a benefit from CUDA since I'm just a hobbyist, I care more about the price to performance and the cheapest 1050 costs more than 40 bucks more than the 460 so I don't think it's worth going for.

>>61626444
Get the 1030, runs cooler and better drivers.

>>61624688
fucking retard

>>61626444
>The RX460 is really cheap in my local store, cheaper than the 550 and costs almost as much as the GT1030, but should I go for a Nvidia card instead?
The 460 is slightly worse than 1050, so it's absolutely better than 1030 unless you need CUDA.

>>61626559
Not an argument.

>>61624301
Accurate, just google the latest benchmarks.

>>61619444
Trips and Intel over Ryzen. Respect.

>>61619785
Find his porn

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>>61619785
Anon, I'd like to believe you but I don't

>>61626511
The 1030 costs 8 bucks less than the 460 with almost half as good performance, so no

>>61626028
>the sandisk ultra II is really cheap in germany right now and a decent SSD. apart from that there are your usual suspects like the samsung 850/950s, crucial bx100 and so on
Alright, got it
>Check if your PSU comes from a reliable OEM and replace it if it doesn't.
Any tips on how to do it? Maybe i should just google it
>For a GPU, depends on what you want to spend. RX470s/480s are out of stock everywhere, so you might go for a 6GB GTX 1060.
Yeah, that's what i am thinking
>Also isn't there a fucking civil war in the east of your country? And how could you cunts sell antonow to the chinks?
Yeah, sort of. It's called war, anti-terroristic operation or civil war in different sources.
>And how could you cunts sell antonow to the chinks?
I don't really follow the news so i haven't heard that. I think it's really funny, I doubt that there's another flying units in this country

>>61627137
yeah just google the name. Should find the oem easily then

>>61627196
Okay, thanks

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I need some help.
I found ryzen in sale this weekend, and i need a new machine. Mostly for work, but the ocasional gayming.
Also, I wanna jump ship to linux, and was thinking of windows VM to play games. Adding to this, I don't want to spend too much on a GPU right now, and was thinking of buying a budget one, and later get a decent one for GPU passthrough.
Now, having this into account, what GPU and what PSU should i pick?

advice on everything else welcome

>>61625590

Please remind which is your handle on Hardocp, Juangra or lolfail9001?

>>61627390
>PSU
a good ~500W one by a reliable OEM. Depends on your budget what one.

GPU passthrough only works with AMD cards if i remember correctly, nvidia axed it for anything but quadros and teslas. But that info is from ~2013, might be different now.

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125971
I'm suspicious of this due to lack of reviews, being a (relatively) low price and just a general lack of knowledge with cards.
Is there anything obviously bad about this model?

>>61618652
ew! ryzen its new and very glichy!

>>61627440
if something is shit people generally go out of their way to leave bad reviews
gigabyte is a trusted company. it should be fine

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t6L6tJ
My budget is $530 but I'd like to have some left over. I want to be able to play games without lag, mostly. Does this build look solid?

>>61627620
>that build
>wifi

you aint playing shit

>>61627634
What's wrong with wifi?

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>>61627493
>Try to find it on partpicker to see why it hadn't showed up before
>Compatibility filter flags it as 1mm too long for case
>mfw could have been upgrading like a week earlier if it wasn't for this shit

>New case with 3x 120mm Fans
>Psu will have a fan of its own

geez this is a lot of fans

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mXBNhq
40.000 is a diet estimate of pricings . or I would like the game to play very well for my computer is on a small diet, so please be kindness to my own self . Good ?

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>>61627999
(You)

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I got a win8 licensekey at home and also got 6TB of storage so i dont need to buy those
btw i want to be futureproof, why i chose the 1080Ti
still price is a bit too much, any way i can lower it a bit?

>>61628148
>le futureproof meme

>>61625905
It's not incompetence if you can milk it for as long as possible by keeping supply low.

>>61628148
Get a 1700.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/X77kBP
Budget is £850 and I am from England.
Is it possible to upgrade the spec while not passing the budget.

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>>61628188
>buying a new card every other year
please dont do this
>>61628337
why a 1700? 1600 wont bottleneck the 1080ti

Is there any actual difference between all these 1070 flavors out there? I want to get the asus rog strix one since it matches the mother board i have, but does it even matter? should i just get the cheaper gigabyte one?

>>61628457
if you like loud noise that you are forced to use headphones, sure why not get the cheep one

>>61628457
>Is there any actual difference between all these 1070 flavors out there?
The difference is in cooling, VRM and how high they're clocked out of the box. You should also consider warranty and how good the RMA process is.

>>61628437
If you want to future proof, moar coars is the way to go. There are already at least a few games which use all of the cores that they can.

>>61628401
Don't buy tea for a week. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KvxyPs

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dsNfzM
Building a small formfactor for studio capture work. Just photo workflow, no video. Gonna put it on a dolly with a UPS, keyboard, mouse, and monitor. Shouldn't need a video card for it right? Adobe and capture one don't really benifit from GPU acceleration.
This board has a 3.0 front header so I can add a few more USB ports if I need to.

>>61628632
Yeah you don't need a GPU. I like editing my videos with a black screen too Anon.

>>61628666
Board has video output, so... Ryzen can't process video?
IDK if you can read but I don't do video work.

>>61628720
ryzen has no igpu

>>61628720
Yeah the board has a magic GPU. Go for it.

>>61628742
Ah thanks, I didn't realize that.

>>61628524
Thank you for the help sir.

>>61626221
It's not one of the plugs that has the test and reset button. I just have to keep going into the basement to flip the breaker switch. Sorry I'm bad at explaining. When I press 'test' on the breaker in the basement it immediately breaks and cuts power. So maybe it is gcfi. Blah I'm dumb

>>61618652

daily reminder the best logical gaming build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ByhRPs

Is this good for 75hz 1080p? Don't have much money
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6fwTcc

>>61628948
If by gaming you mean "60 fps slideshows" then yeah sure

>>61628948
>a320
no nigger

>>61628948
>A320 with an X processor
What are you even doing my dude.

Anybody have experience with KFA2? Their 1070s are pretty cheap but I've never really heard of them.

>>61628961

that GPU is in the pentium CPU teir according to /g/'s logical incriments

you need either the 1060 6GB or 580

>>61629008
>>61628977

not overclocking, doesnt matter

>>61628961
Nope, I have a RX 560 and it struggles unless you drop the settings down in 1080p.

>>61619728
Unplug power from PC, hold down "On" button for 30 seconds to 1 minute.

>>61629063
>not overclocking an unlocked cpu that actually has some performance gains by overclocking

>>61629102

the stock speeds are better than the 7500 which has no overclock ability and costs more than $50 less

>>61627678
nothing, Ethernet is just faster and more reliable. you're fine to play games on WiFi and your build looks great.

>>61619811
What's the name of the case on the left?

>>61628902
the "test" button is supposed to flip the GFCI. I doubt it's faulty. But it might be possible that your PSU flips the GFCI (which would indicate failure, but not necessarily catastrophic failure)

>>61629157
Should I go for a better CPU?

>>61618652
Should I use old server parts?

>>61627620

you can get the R3 1200 for 20 dollars more and much better performance

>>61629248
if you can afford it, sure

>>61629048
>>61629090
should probably point out i dont play aaa garbage, only competitive games. quale, overwatch, cs:go, dota, league, WoW for a month every tier. I got the 560 for freesync
I

>>61629299
depends on what you do, answer is almost always no

>>61629248

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tkFBnn

>>61629329
Why not?

>>61629372
not really all that cheap, inefficient

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$1399.99

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I just want to play games at 144hz. I think the faster ram is worth it, only like $40 more and I know at least two of my games should pick up like 15-20fps from it vs 2133. Already have a delid tool (3d printed it at the library).
Hows it look?
I feel like buying a gtx 1080 in mid 2017 is the most retarded fucking thing imaginable because it's so old and shitty with it's locked down bios but whatever. My GPU shit the bed and really this whole computer just needs to be set fire to.
Realize I'm spending quite a bit on storage but I've been using two 320gb 5400rpm HDDs from laptops in the trash for too fucking long and that's one of the things I'm most looking forward to.
gammax 400 looks fucking insane from tomshardware's benchmarks, like 2c hotter than a dark rock pro 3 insane.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9GWVKZ

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>>61629157
>>61629311
>>61629364
thanks

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quick question
is the Ryzen 5 1600 compatible with Corsair CMK8GX4M2B3200C16R Vengeance LPX 3200mhz sticks?
i can't find a compatibility list besides pcpartpicker, although I'm sure it's reliable enough

>>61629653
Check the QVL of your motherboard.

>>61629653
Go to the mobo manufacturer's site

>>61629688
>>61629666
yeah, it seems compatible, not that specific model, but the frequency is fine
the reason I'm asking is because it runs the OS fine, for about 5-10 minutes before i either freeze completely or bluescreen with a clock_watchdog_timeout error code
any ideas on what to do
I've updated to the latest mobo chipset and bios, temps are fine (30 idle) and it passed a windows memory diagnosis

>>61629666
>>61629688
msi b350 gaming plus is the mobo btw

>>61629364
Could he switch the CPU for a R3 1300X?

>>61629861
The 1300x is not really worth it unless overclocking is not an option. You get like 100MHz extra out of it compared to the 1200.

>>61629861

its 10% better gaming performance out the box and better than the i5-7500 without overclocking

i would go for that since its only $120

How we looking boys.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ayz/saved/XXzHxr

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give me a quick rundown on my parts lads

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DgtVKZ

>>61630510
>7600k instead of 1600
disgusting

>>61618741
>8 (at least) port gigabit
Most of the routers out there have 4 ports (+one WAN up-link port) and you're quickly talking $300-400 for one of the rather rare routers that do have more ports. That's .. just silly so I recommend that you drop that requirement. Just ignore that requirement buy some $100 router and a $20-30 8 port gigabit switch.

>>61630510
>i5 7600
> liquid cooling
> only 8 GB ram
Drop the liquid cooling and get an R7 and increase the ram to 16 GB. And don't tell me that 8 GB is enough. It is not.

>>61630413
Can't say much about the other components but i suggest you get a 2TB HDD, the difference in price is so small.

>>61629606
>i7 7700
>144 Hz
don't fall for the avg FPS meme anon. The frametimes on that thing are horrible. Ryzen will give you a (very slightly) lower avg FPS but much smoother experience overall.

>>61630538
>>61630632
Why the 1600? Genuinely curious

>>61630754
>cheaper
>less electricity use
>less heat (and much better stock cooler)
>more cores (future proofing)
>better frametimes resulting in much smoother gameplay

>>61630779
Got it. Would it be worth it then getting the RYZEN 7 over the 6 then?

>>61630930
you meant over 5, i'd personally go with Ryzen 7 given your budget.

>>61630969
Cool. How would the ryzen cooler be then for overclocking? Do I need to get an aftermarket?

>>61631009
The stock cooler is finer for a 3.7/3.8 Ghz overclock, though you want an aftermarket cooler to kit 4.0 Ghz

new thread when

Building my first PC, would be primarily used for gaming, should i get an i7 or Ryzen?

I bought a single stick of RAM 16 GB that runs @ 2400 Mhz.

Should I return it and get something else? I have an ASUS Prime B350-Plus and a Ryzen 5 1600. What RAM should I get?

>>61631980
Depends on your budget and what you intend to play... i7 is best purely for gaming, but Ryzen 5 1600 is the best bang for your buck.

>>61632013
>>61632013