/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Why do these threads need so much bloat/garbage in the OP?
This is the GNU/Linux thread, not that KDE thread.

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Hello my friends.

Should I install ubuntu 16 or 17?

I just want something taht werks and be rid of W10

>>61601727
Use the long term release, I don't recall exactly which one but I guess is 16.04

>>61601747
ok thanks

shud I give them $15

just did a fresh install of arch + budgie.
>gdm: starts gnome when budgie is selected
>lightdm: fails to start with 4 greeters.
>xinit: crashes and infinite login loop
>just had to solve 5 goddamn captchas probably because of the linux user agent.
is hackintosh the ultimate redpill???

>>61601709
So people stop asking what distro they should use. Unfortunately, they do that anyway.

So, yeah, the OP is pretty much worthless.

>>61601770
remember fucking with wifi drivers in 2006? hackintosh is like that but everywhere

>>61601709
>>61601792
I miss the original pasta and the other attempt with the informative links, it worked nice. Not to say some serious effort was put in this OP too.

>>61601770
>>61601819
Windows 10 + bash is the final ultimate giganigga redpill.

>>61601727
17, unless you need an LTS release, in which case 16.04 LTS.

>>61601770
>>just had to solve 5 goddamn captchas probably because of the linux user agent.
>is hackintosh the ultimate redpill???

What the fuck are you even talking about?

Did you read the wiki? How about the man pages to configure everything correctly? Did you start Budgie with startx to see if it even worked at all?

>>61601758
Sure, if you want to support them. Your money.

>>61601770
>arch
Found your problem
>>61601852
>botnet 10
Found the shill

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I.. I want to compile my first kernel and stuff!
W.. where should I start..?

>>61601929
>Frogposter
You're far too retarded to do such a thing.

Most underrated linux distro?

My vote is CRUX.

>>61601878
the 4chan captchas. its difficulty is adjusted partly based on browser heuristics so if you have a rare useragent (like Gnu Icecat on linux) you will likely get more difficult challenges.

>Did you read the wiki? How about the man pages to configure everything correctly?
yeah, so far wasted an hour trying to troubleshoot (I'm not new to arch nor linux) but desu I can't be bothered to waste more time reading through every single github issue and forum post. already downloading Mint right now :^)

>>61601929
What distro do you use?

>>61601983
>Most underrated linux distro?
Probably Slackware. It's the oldest Linux distro still being developed, and puts out releases and security updates with a small core team.

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>>61602044
>Slackware
ahahahah

can someone answer me why Richard Stallman and FSF spend all their money on Democrat activism instead of funding good and secure software?

>>61601747

>Use the long term release

Why would he do that?

>>61601770

Works on my machine. PEBCAK. Ask your mom if it's too late to abort you.

>>61602235
Because they would rather that something aligned with their definition of free than that it was secure, duh.

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>>61601943
B..but I wanna try...
>>61602044
O..one with blie arc...

>>61602343
Seriously, just kill yourself.
Your kind is a blight on humanity.

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How can you even say linux is good when there are people dying in the world and the linux users won't lift a finger to help them. How much do linux users donate to help these poor people versus the software companies you find evil? I think you'll find that software companies are actually trying to solve the problems of the world: sadness, poverty, hunger, suffering.

You just sit there and twiddle your thumbs asking for it all for free. Typical. Just typical.

>>61602126
>MOOOM MY LINUX INSTALLER IS A TEXT SCREEN HELP
That's you. That's how you sound.

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>>61602356

hello friends
i used ubuntu since i started with linux
now i wish to move to a less bloated distro, i have tried fedora and its not any better, what are your suggestions?

also, looking for a de that is easy on the eyes yet its lightweight, what do you recommend? i really liked unity's integrated top bar
i tried kde already and i didnt like it, gnome looks disgusting too

pls help

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>>61602357
unironic Zizek poster here

is fedora a good distro for a newfag user? i want to run windows in a vm for vidya and use linux for my other tasks

>>61602481
sophist
you got pulled in by stupefying drivel

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>>61601929

>>61602357
vim doesn't have this problem

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>>61602481
unironic you.

cant jijek the zizek

>>61602511
>i want to run windows in a vm
Well you can do that in literally every distro with multilib support, but, yeah, Fedora can do that, too, and is generally considered accessible.

See also:
>>What distro should I choose?
>https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>>61602521
ikr

>>61602357
i care about myself not niggers in africa
the windows jew doesnt care about my privacy so they can go fuck themselves

>>61602126
>Full - 7.8GB of software
Jesus. Just do 'Expert' or 'Menu'

Also, what is the use of 'Expert' when it is the same as 'Menu'

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There is no escaping the fact that linux is just an os for poor people. go into a bestbuy and look what is on the shelf. Every single god damn computer you see will be running a windows os. There's mac for people with more money than sense and that's like a fucking thousand to two thousand dollers.

Why would you even consider a computer where you have to erase everything off and install your own shit and customize and tweak it to make it work like the real thing when a real computer comes with the real thing included in the prices for you.

It's like buying a car and then taking the engine and all the parts out and then putting in your own parts and engine.

You should just take that time you spent to make some money and spend that money on a better car that comes with the shit you want.

>>61602593
dumbest post ive seen all day

>>61602593
You are retarded.

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>>61602593
There is no escaping the fact that Windows is just an OS for the stupid, uneducated masses, designed to function for the least common denominator of society. Go into the business world. Every goddam server you see will be running a Linux OS. Theres Mac for people with more money than sense, which is basically Unix, and thats like a fucking thousand to two thousand dollers.

Why would you even consider a computer where you have to worry about ransomware encrypting everything and having to download programs with possible trojans just to make it have the functionality of a linux when a real linux computer comes with the real thing included at no cost to you

It's like buying a Ford pinto car and then having to take out the gas tank so that it wont explode on you the first time someone accidentally taps into the back of your car in traffic.


You should just take that free time you spent to play video games and spend that time learning a better car that comes with the shit you want.

>>61602593
dumb luser
linux is for developers

>>61602593
>It's like buying a car and then taking the engine and all the parts out and then putting in your own parts and engine.

most linux users build their own pcs and servers, only laptops are the exceptions because they cant be custom built

>There is no escaping the fact that linux is just an os for poor people

windows and osx can be cracked too, if we were truly poor we would do that
but do you see linux users use windows? no, because we chose the only good os that there is


fuck off normie

>>61602615
>>61602632
>>61602644
>>61602646
stop replying bait

>>61602667
but it was so good...

when adding

export PATH="/home/<user>/anaconda<2 or 3>/bin:$PATH"

to my .bashrc, can I just put it at the bottom of the file? It's kind of a long file.

>>61602722
Yes.

>>61598675
is this a meme?

>>61602768
Yes.

>>61602457
anyone?

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>>61602808
why is it a meme

>>61602864
Because of the novelty of a /g/-created "operating system". In practical terms, it doesn't do anything new, nor contribute anything upstream, so it's basically worthless.

It also removes the (albeit negligible) educational merit of a new user installing Gentoo.

>>61602823
>>61602457
read the OP, newfag

>>61602457
install Gentoo

>>61602926
be civil my dude, this is a friendly thread
i have read it
where is your god now?

>>61602912
should i install it if i just like the wallpapers?

>>61602970
Why not just visit the booru and download the wallpapers there?

>>61602980
why the fuck would i use wallpapers for an os im not even running
that's dumb af

>>61602970
even asking this implies you shouldn't use anything more sophisticated than calculator

>>61603028
rude

>>61602970
yes

>>61602938
What did you like in Unity? What did you dislike in KDE and GNOME?

Have you tried Xfce? There's probably a theme that you would enjoy. If you don't like the UI, why not try i3-gaps with a theme from r/unixporn.

Are you comfortable with trying a BSD (FreeBSD or OpenBSD) or do you prefer to stick with a GNU/Linux? I'm thinking about Void Linux (unbloated Ubuntu with OpenBox) or Debian testing (which is unbloated enough to be used for servers). You may try Archlinux to get used to the cli but while it's minimal it's not aimed at being lightweight.

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I want to set up a linux distro at work to do system administrative tasks.

I'm considering Mint because it's supposed to be comfy, but I don't want anything to break when I update, so I was also considering CentOS. I'm not new to linux, pretty comfortable, just not up to date on the latest distro trends. Btw, I hate Gnome 3, so I'm wary of Cinnamon because I really like Gnome 2 and Mate.

What's the word on the net?

>>61602999
Installing an OS for its wallpapers is way, way dumber, at least have a look at your computer hardware

>>61603329
The word on the net is this is a blue board, please don't post pornography here. Also install Clover OS.

>>61603329
>the latest distro trends
They haven't really changed. Apart from canonical removing all their special snowflake shit and red hat spreading all their special snowflake shit.

>>61603341
What would my hardware have anything to do with it?

Is it normal for KDE's compositor to make things laggy, but for Compiz to have everything running smoothly?

I was under the impression that Compiz was some bloated garbage. Only problem is I can't get the same decorations.

>>61603383
At least to see if it has a decent Linux compatibility and to know if you need a source distro (Gentoo) or a lightweight one (Debian)

>>61603435
>>61603383
Also please fucking Google it

>>61603213
i havent tried xfce yet, looks good
gonna try void when i get home from work
thanks anon

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How do I make an Emerald Theme?

While I'm not extremely bothered, is there any way of making compton work without laggy dragging and without tearing? I tried different backends and such but after eliminating all tearing I'm left with a somewhat laggy behavior while moving windows. It's not too bothersome but that doesn't occur with other compositors so I was wondering.

>>61604077
I don't know but that looks fucking neat.

>>61604154
Doesn't happen for me.

>>61604166
Maybe it's a hardware issue. I use an AMD GPU and I can only get rid of tearing by using opengl-swc/mswc

GPU Monitoring & Overclocking Software like MSI Afterburner for Linux? Thanks!

>>61601929
Try installing Gentoo, the wiki explains to you what is required and it has items on how to enable support for your graphics card etc. It will be hard the first time though, but in the end you'll have a very minimal system with a kernel configured by yourself.

>>61602593
Here's a (you)

In bash, how do you ONLY remove the 5th character?

I keep looking around and finding nothing.

cut keeps removing the rest or the beginning characters as well.

tr is removing every character in my output.

>>61604824

$ echo 'character' | sed 's/.//5'
charcter

>>61602593
GNU/Linux*

>>61604905
Oh thanks a lot, finally!

>>61604824
>cut keeps removing the rest or the beginning characters as well.

$ echo 'character' | cut -c -4,6-
charcter

>>61604824
There's a curly brace (variable expansion?) syntax for selecting character ranges,, dunno if it's posix though

>>61604905
>>61604934
Which one is more efficient though?

>>61604959
The latter

>>61604985
Alright, also shit. Seems like wget does not like taking from a file something like

address/file.jpg newfilename.jpg

You gotta do something like this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/196253/how-do-you-rename-files-specifically-in-a-list-that-wget-will-use

is there a better way than running a for loop?

whats the first thing i should do after instaling ubuntu 16.04 LTS ? last time i had it i had broken dependencies and it wouldnt let me install anything so i want to be careful.
i also have specific problems with Ubuntu in my asus laptop

>shows that the laptop is charging even tho its disconnected
>have to choose the headphones manually in sound preferences to use them instead of the laptop speakers
>laptop microphone not detected

>>61604985
>>61604905
Shit actually, I'm grepping a bunch of stuff and when it comes down to jpg and jpeg, that 5 character becomes 6.

What's going on is that, I'm putting a filename after the URL I'm grepping from a curl output, but whenever I get it to be in this format

URL/image.jpg newfilename

I do some pipes and get this

URL/image.jpg newfilename
.jpg

Then I pipe

paste -sd ' \n'

and I get this horror

URL/image.jpg newfilename .jpg

That space is killing me right now. How can I fix it?

I did a rev piped with the command to cut it and rev again, but unfortunately if I have jpeg or webm, it will not be the same.

>>61605271
I guess a this point it's easier when you post your whole script. Maybe there's an easier solution for the whole process.

>>61605297
Alright hang on, I'm just updating one of my downloaders that I made the other day. Let me fix it up with another solution I have, but it isn't the right solution in my opinion. Give me a couple of minutes.

>>61605271
For the space problem: sed 's/\s\././'

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>try to copy paste something from ff
>hit ctrl+shift+c
>inspector shows up
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

>>61605325
That makes things weird:
newfilename.jpg
but
newfilename jpeg
for some reason

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>>61605403
>Not just highlighting the text and pasting with middle-click

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>>61602526
>>61604782
thank you mister

>>61605297
https://github.com/wewman/gelbash/blob/master/beta/gelbash.sh

My plan is to save the images with a name, the tags as the name but I do not want to curl twice because that's not a good idea, right?

I mean, fuck, I can save the output to a file or something, but whatever. wget is a bitch. Maybe curl can do this, but I don't know how to use curl that much. Gotta read the man page.

>>61605403
>tries to copy something from ff with keycombo
>doesn't even know what keys to press
>complains

>>61605403
niga that's for terminals!

>>61605537
>>61605403
But I feel your pain, happened three times.

>>61605514
Also
>curl twice is not a good idea
>sed 4 times
But you gotta try and feel bad for the website.

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Best place to got to learn more about Docker? Anyone here use Swarm or Compose? What do you use Docker for?

Anybody having issues building ungoogled-chromium from the AUR? I keep getting this error

==> ERROR: pkgver is not allowed to be empty.
==> ERROR: pkgver() generated an invalid version: 

>>61606102
Which AUR Package are you working with?

>>61606102
>arch
found your problem

Howdy folks, got a list of questions:

1. I'd like to switch to either openbox or i3 on my high-dpi but small monitor laptop, I've run them before with bigger font sizes but it never really fit right, any tips?
2. What's the best way to manage self-compiled packages? How do you install a package to a seperate partition like /opt with say apt for example.
3. I've written IPtables rules a few times, looked at basic stateful firewalls, and read some man pages but still don't really know what I'm doing making fresh rules for a new install. Is there an easy way to see what ports my applications actually use or might possibly need?
4. Same as 1. but with gtk and qt applications
5. Any tips on tools to autoread my logs, usually I only check them when something is visibly broken, otherwise they are unread and rotated. I feel like I'm missing things.

Thank you very much!

>>61606146
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ungoogled-chromium

>>61606362
What aur helper are you using? Has it worked before?

>>61606195
this. gentoo > arch

>>61606383
I don't use an aur helper. I usually have no issue installing packages manually from the aur. This is the first time I'm trying this package. I just download the snapshot, extract it, then run makepkg -sri. Comments on that page say you need to pull a specific tag instead of the latest versio. I'm not really sure what they mean by that.

>>61601654
I use adhoc connection and usually lost the net.
syslog:

No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other IBSS networks with same SSID (merge)

I have seen elsewhere to use managed mode, but it's automatically set it to adhoc.
Any suggestion?

>>61605706
>using docker
Why should i? cute pic

What's the simplest free way to start streaming films from one Linux computer to another on my network?

>>61602457

Security Onion

-Uses xfce DE which is lightweight and fast.

-Security Onion is descended from Ubuntu but with all crap removed since its an IDS distro.

>>61606494
unironically VLC

>>61606494
start an rtsp server

>>61606451
I see why.
That package is out of date. version.ini isn't in the same place as it was before, as with a few other files it needs. I would help you fix it myself, but I don't run Arch. Maybe try another AUR build?

>>61606494
>Linux computer

>>61606494
netcat
>>61606539
>unironically using vlc

I installed a linux guest on a windows host so I could do all my internet biz in the vm and play games on the host, works well enough but fuck me I gave the VM 6gb plus 2gb swap and it still shits itself with like upwards of 5 tabs in chromium. Are there any derivatives of chrome that arent as shit or do I need to get friends with firefox? Google just tells me to install onetab and such which defeat the purpose of tabs entirely...

Can I use rEFIned with LVM? Planning on encrypting my root partition but not my boot, will it work then?

If a directory includes ./symlink and I perform an operation on *, will the shell expand it to ./symlink/ or perform the operation only on the link itself?

>>61606731
>linux guest on a windows host
But you should do it the other way around.

>>61606804
Well the GPU on my i7 isn't wired in in my laptop so I can't pass the GPU through to a windows VM to play my games. And frankly wine doesn't do the trick yet. So you see I have no other choice.

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>Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

I've been thinking about making a Linux distro for a short while now. A debian based distro has been done by everyone and their mother, anf I don't really want to make a "just another shitty debian derivative". I looked at OpenSUSE's creater studio and while it looked like it would probably be the easiest, it seems neglected. So I'm considering something slackware-based, but not directly because I'd like to take advantage of of other slackware-based distros compiling for multiple systems and save myself some work.

what I'm looking for is something
>stable
>with support for a lot of hardware already
>not too prohibitive for me to strip bundled software out of
>something that gets out of the way on updates the same way that slackware is said to. I'd like to have my say before letting the like 2 people who might use my shitty distro update but other than that it shouldn't be too much maintenance on my side
>low bloat

been on gentoo for three years, so I know some stuff
I looked at Salix, Slackel, Vector, and Zenwalk. I don't know what's best for me really and I don't have much experience with anything slackware based, although I gave slackware itself a try

also general question. how hard is it to compile a package to work well on many systems? with the scale of supported systems being the same scale as like the average distro? I'm not really looking for the speed advantages of compiling from source like gentoo is memed about, just something stable and cross platform to make a binary from, without messing with appimage snakeware

tldr making a distro, want to use something slackware-based but not directly cuz too lazy. maybe salix-based?

I need to change my LUKS passphrase but system won't accept it. It boots with the same passphrase and I suspect there's some keymap fuckery going on. Worst of all, I can't back up ANYTHING. What's the safest way to defuse that situation?

>>61607003
install gentoo

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>>61598721
>>61607012
no

Is blackarch a honeypot?

>>61607040
>been on gentoo for three years, so I know some stuff
uninstall gentoo

>>61607003
You could try Linux from Scratch.

>>61604195
Linux-Linux-PHC (+ phc2sys), cpupower, cpufrequtils, PowerTOP, are some of the tools for cpu over/underclocking.

For benchmarking specifically HPC Challenge Benchmark, Sysbench, or Phoronix Test Suite.

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>>61607054
no

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>>61607104
that's certainly an option, but its not really what I'm looking to do. I'd prefer the hard work be done already. I'll keep it in mind though

>>61607213
stop creating shitty downstream distros

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>>61607302

>>61607213
You want to make a distro to learn, right? Then start from scratch. You won't make a good distro on your own

>>61602644
OBJECTION
Windows has a monopoly on the gaming market.
I still dual-boot on my laptop for vidjya because Ubuntu can't run games worth shit.

>>61601985
umatrix can spoof useragents

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>>61607341
>You want to make a distro to learn, right? Then start from scratch. You won't make a good distro on your own
I'm not expecting to make a good distro, but I figure that using slackware (and preferably something even further down) as a base should help me meet a lot of my goals

why doesn't 'apt-get install cmake' install the latest version?

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H-how to get started with emacs?
Stuff I should read?
How to learn?
How to rice?

>>61607725
old version is in the distribution repositories
>>61607472
d*mb r*ry poster

>>61607472
GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR SHITTY LOLIS
GATE IS SHIT
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

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Trying to set up things so I can SSH onto my home server over the internet. Going to just forward port 22 on my router.

As long as I disable root logins and make sure my user password is strong, is there anything else I need to worry about?

>>61607725
https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences

>>61608087
Use a key, my man. And fail2ban.

What is the correct way to set TERM=xterm-256color in lxterminal?
I can force it in bashrc, but multiple sources say that setting it that way is wrong both morally and technically.
Lxterminal doesn't have any parameters to set the reported terminal type that I know of.
Send help

>>61608119
Thanks, I'll look into those.

>>61608165
bashrc

>>61607725
If you want the lastest version, go the the cmake download page, get the latest tar.gz, extract, cd into it, run ./bootstrap, run make, run sudo checkinstall, enjoy your latest cmake.

Is this good book to learn about linux?
https://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/

>>61606452
boop

>>61608796
Is it exists?

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When did Clementine get a visualizer?

What is the best distro for a Dell D820? Mostly to play around on it but still functional.

I like systemd

>>61609039
Version 0.4:
Features:
* Support for multiple, tabbed playlists.
* Support for loading and saving XSPF, M3U, PLS and ASX playlists.
* Fullscreen visualisation support using projectM.
https://github.com/clementine-player/Clementine/blob/master/Changelog

the hell is ipv6 and why does it take openrc 5 full seconds to establish it? Good idea to disable it?

>>61601654

How do I get automatic syntax highlighting for various languages like Gedit has in Emacs?

>>61609219
>knows that openrc is
>doesn't know what ipv6 is

>>61602576
it's a meme you dip

>>61609251
I think my provider only gave it recently to me senpai and I dont have any technical background

>>61609250
emacs has modes for most languages already by default. but some you need to install a package to get syntax highlighting. Do M-x list-packages and C-s to search for your language and most likely will find something to install. Then it should just work.

>>61609250
>>61609439
Also I forget but add melpa repository to get more packages. You just have to add a few lines to your .emacs or init.el.
https://melpa.org/#/getting-started

Hey folks

Please be patient; I'm retarded.

How easy is it to dualboot on one HDD between Windows and Linux?

Many thanks in advance

>>61609478
When Linux asks where you want to install it, don't tell it to install over Windows.
Or do, your choice.

>>61609478
The installer on most worthwhile distros will make this trivial; just follow the prompts.

>>61609570
THank you, friendo

>>61609478
Its just partitioning your hard drive with partitions for windows and for linux. But to make the process a lot easier you should install windows first and then install linux. Otherwise windows will overwrite the bootloader and you wont be able to boot linux.

I am a newbie running ubuntu and its shitting itself with errors after a week. I was enjoying it uptil now desu

What shall I switch to lads. Pls no arch its 2 hard

>>61609703
fix the errors stupid ass boi running from the problems wont do anything

>>61609703
What are the actual errors? You wont have it any easier with anything else.

>>61609817
"System program problem detected" on startup.

>>61602457
debian, obviously

>>61609842
install fedora

>>61601983
Source Mage for sure

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>>61609570
>>61609643
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>61610052
t-thanks stallman-san

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What are some cool terminal commands?

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>>61601654
What Linux distro does she use?

>>61607003
>with support for a lot of hardware already
Hardware support doesn't really matter from distro to distro, as it's the kernel itself that affects hardware compatibility. Yes, it's true that different projects might ship with slightly different kernels, and they might not package proprietary firmware, but there's literally nothing stopping you from downloading Linux vanilla and patching it yourself. Read the gentoo wiki if you're having trouble.

>how hard is it to compile a package to work well on many systems?
Literally not that hard at all if you have the required dependencies. It's even easier if you already have a build script available for you, as with Slackware. Basically every Slackware fork is reverse-compatible with the original Slackware.

You clearly have no idea how much work is cut out for you, if you're sincerely thinking about maintaining a distribution--especially a Slackware-based distribution. It's not like Ubuntu where you can slap some bullshit together and call it a "distribution". Before you do any of that, at least try LFS to see what it's like to maintain packages.

>>61610215
Black arch linux to reflect the darkness of her soul

What's a cheap GPU that will work well with KDE? My current one doesn't like its compositor

>>61610052
He asked how to install linux not gnu shit. You could install and use linux without using any gnu software. And this faggot cant take credit for all software that uses just a license.

Which is better, webkit or blink/qtwebengine?

>>61610467
That will be incredibly hard.

>>61601654

Can anyone tell me why does Debian come with python installed? If I need new functionality I could just use C++. Why bother with Python?

>>61610507
What about Alpine?
Not sure if busybox counts as gnu

>>61610507
You're a big guy

Can someone tell me how could i add Serbian Latina letters on arch?
Im using i3, when i was on xfce everything worked but now it doesn not
i have us and serbian cyrillic but latin aint working

>>61610515
Some of debian essential programs use python and not really C++ and python are not used for the same jobs. Often its not worth using C++ to write programs that can be written in python much easier when performance is not number one thing that matters. Can you tell me which programs on your system are using python and which are written in C++ just based on the speed and no other information?

How do I start contributing to the Linux kernel? What are some books I should read etc?

>>61610467
Linux is a kernel. He probably didn't want to run a bare kernel.

>>61610615
Learn C and learn it well

>>61610589
>Some of debian essential programs use python

No offense but I seriously doubt this.

>programs that can be written in python much easier when performance is not number one thing that matters

I agree, I enjoy scripting in Python too.

>Can you tell me which programs on your system are using python and which are written in C++ just based on the speed and no other information?

I haven't installed Debian yet, still on Windows.
Does Debian have a dedicated scripting interface for Python?

>>61609039
>>61609150
so Tuesday, June 29, 2010

>>61610700
less /usr/bin/apt-add-repository

>>61610722
>noobuntu

>>61610615

Assuming you already know C I would recommend Modern OS Programming and the books written by Robert(?) Love on the Linux kernel are the newest. The most complete reference on the kernel was a book written by some German guy but last time I checked they were pretty old, maybe send him a letter and ask him about updating them for the new kernel.

explain the difference between GNU and Linux to a 5 year old

>>61610722

?

>>61610781
Both incomplete systems.
Linux is the kernel.
GNU is the userland.
Both together make a complete system; GNU+Linux

>>61610781

Linux is an OS==kernel while GNU is a software environment for Linux.

>>61610802
GNU is an operating system too, anon.

>>61610821
No.

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>>61610828
GNU would interject.

>>61610700
>No offense but I seriously doubt this.
Well essential is maybe not the right word but when you install debian you are installing programs that need python to run.

>>61610828
When you sit down and make an OS, make a list of what stuff is needed, find programmers who help and write the system, you have an OS (what GNU did in the 80s). Linux is an OS too from an computer sciencific view, but not something you can actually run on its own.

>>61610956
how about alpine? it doesn't use any gnu

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>>61610290
>Hardware support doesn't really matter from distro to distro, as it's the kernel itself that affects hardware compatibility. Yes, it's true that different projects might ship with slightly different kernels, and they might not package proprietary firmware, but there's literally nothing stopping you from downloading Linux vanilla and patching it yourself. Read the gentoo wiki if you're having trouble.
Alrigt, the reason I mentioned this is because I don't think I should deal with that kind of thing. I know with many packages you can make performance optimizations during compilation that will work best/only on your specific hardware. One less thing I could fuck up, one less low-level thing to worry about. I probably don't know better than one of the slackware derivatives when it comes to hardware
>>how hard is it to compile a package to work well on many systems?
>Literally not that hard at all if you have the required dependencies. It's even easier if you already have a build script available for you, as with Slackware. Basically every Slackware fork is reverse-compatible with the original Slackware.
alright good
>You clearly have no idea how much work is cut out for you, if you're sincerely thinking about maintaining a distribution--especially a Slackware-based distribution. It's not like Ubuntu where you can slap some bullshit together and call it a "distribution". Before you do any of that, at least try LFS to see what it's like to maintain packages.
I'm not planning on making any huge modifications to it at first. I'm going to release something either way, even if it's just a virtual machine image with a single username that you can log into.
But I want to do it somewhat properly - not build test or host the full set of packages on a server, but still do several packages fetched only from me, but with everything else I would get in the way minimally and let it update from Salix or whatever I chose

>>61610985
Well, Alpine is not a GNU/Linux system. There's nothing wrong with calling it just Linux.

>>61611071
i dont understand the pic attachment

>>61610452
Nevermind.

If anyone here has any performance issues with KWin, try disabling triple buffering.

I spent a month looking for this fucking fix I swear to god

How do I make CentOS, or any distro do some of the "nice" things that Mint does? What do I need to copy over?

I'm takling about for example when you insert the Guest Addons cd for virtualbox it automatically detects and runs it.

>>61611164
i fixed a similar issue in some FOSS programs that use Qt (kde uses Qt).

It's because triple buffering is drawing for a fixed screen size, and that is not upsampled when it's rendered by the final frame.

basically the Scintella maintainers needa fix dat shit

Is there a way to debloat openSUSE?

Or at least know which applications are not required? Because there's a fuckton.

>>61609842
Last time I had that it was just Plymouth being shit. Does your boot animation get cut off?

>>61610467
Can you please stop your bullshit.

>>61611509

He's right, Stallman is just full of it and full of himself.

>>61610615
http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/howto.html

This document is pretty old, but it was written by Greg Kroah-Hartman, who is still basically Linus's right-hand man.

>>61610844
My son is 4. This morning, he claimed to be a dinosaur.

That does not mean that he's a dinosaur. He merely wants to be.

Neither is GNU an operating system. It merely wants to be. Maybe in another 30 years when they get the HURD into reasonable shape, they'll actually be able to make that claim.

XFS va ext4 on a new installation on an ssd

>>61611137
its a family, during the great depression

>>61612477
xfs is for larger failes
use ext4

Is there a distro that is specifically designed for producing music? Or am I remembering things incorrectly.

>>61612592
dyne:bolic GNU/Linux

how do I see if I have these packages installed?
libc6:i386 libasound2:i386 libasound2-data:i386 libasound2-plugins:i386 libcurl3:i386 libgtk2.0-0:i386 libopenal1:i386
I used apt list --installed | grep package
But I have to do it one by one. Is there a more pratical way?

What's the syntax of qmake? I thought it was just qmake filename

>>61612807

apt list --installed | grep {package1,package2,package3}

You can use wildcards too

>>61612825
I tried
sudo apt list --installed | grep {libc6,libasound2,libasound2-data,libasound2-plugins,libcurl3,libgtk2.0-0,libopenal1}

and got

grep: libasound2: No such file or directory
grep: libasound2-data: No such file or directory
grep: libasound2-plugins: No such file or directory
grep: libcurl3: No such file or directory
grep: libgtk2.0-0: No such file or directory
grep: libopenal1: No such file or directory

>>61613033
try

grep -E "(thing|otherthing|stuff)"

>>61613033
alternativly
grep -e foo -e bar

People keep saying you can use GuixSD for whatever you want including installing proprietary software, drivers, and playing games

But I always just think they're guessing and telling others to do things they've never even tried

So is there anyone here at all who has actually used GuixSD with proprietary drivers, and been able to play closed source games? Have you been able to run Steam?

I know I probably sound like a n00b, but what is the best way to share files from a zfs server to linux and windows computers?

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Post utilities nobody knows about.

$ look balls

>>61613033
>>61613069
>>61613159
none of these worked.

>>61613369
You're lying

>>61613337
nl

shorter than cat, prints line numbers, wow

>>61613369
Ok i found out i tried grep -E 'pattern|pattern2|etc'

>>61613226

of course you can run proprietary stuff on it, there's nothing inherently stopping you, but the biggest issue you'll run into is there will be absolutely no support: proprietary stuff likely isn't going to be packaged for guixsd and it's likely not in a format that will be accepted by guix, and the devs won't or can't provide support for installing proprietary software, therefore to run something proprietary like steam you'll have to do it in a completely manual do it your self way, entirely self supported
part of the requirements for the free software foundation to recommend a distro is that the distro can't offer any official documentation on a project related website or mailing list (etc) on how to install proprietary software or how to obtain it, recommendations of proprietary software, etc, on a less zealous distro you might find someone in an irc channel or something to help you but given guixsd is gnu ran the chances of this are very low

with that out of the way I can't give you any solid advice but if you do really have nothing better to do the way to start would be finding out how steam is packaged (afaik they only officially support ubuntu, when it's provided for other distros it's a community effort) and find out how guix manages packages then make sure all the provided binaries/libraries are in the right place and make sure the external dependencies are there and are in the right locations... it might just be easier to use another distro for steam

>>61606773
the point of a symlink is to act like it's target unless the program was explicitly told not to treat it like that
so it will act like a folder, unless the program is designed to or has been told to, ignore that fact (and treat it as the symlink file itself)

>>61613654
I just want a nix/guix like package manager without systemd. That would be absolute heaven

>>61613822
Also, yes I know you can install them on any distro but I don't give a fuck. I'm too autistic to take such a "dirty" approach.
I need my distro to be fully managed by my package manager, not partially.

>>61613468
I tried grep -E (|) before i posted the comment and it worked for me.

>>61613311
Samba to share in the Windows file sharing network thing. Mount with the cifs type on Linux. Might have to find a good guide to set samba up so Windows clients stop trying to use passwords for accessing public shares.

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Just a general question, not sure if anyone can point me any direction with it. I work within a small company which provides various IT and Telecom services to other businesses within the region. The vast majority, if not all, environments utilise Windows Server (Some virtualised, some not) I was just wondering earlier today about how we could perhaps implement Linux into some of our existing and potential environments later down the line, given that it sees very little use. I know it is a general question... but I am looking for a general answer too.

In short
>What practical uses for Linux have you found within your workplace? Either for yourself or for your customer base.

>>61613883
Okay, thanks. Can you recommend any good guides?

This is how I have shares set up on my laptop with linux mint, and I can access the Windows drives from it, but I'm not always able to access the linux shares from Windows. If this happens on the zfs server it will be a problem, because I intend to stream media from it.

# C: on desktop
#//User%[email protected]/c/
//192.168.1.139/c /media/c/ cifs credentials=/home/user/.smbcredentials/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,sec=ntlm 0 0
//192.168.1.139/d /media/d/ cifs credentials=/home/user/.smbcredentials/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,sec=ntlm 0 0
//192.168.1.139/e /media/e/ cifs credentials=/home/user/.smbcredentials/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,sec=ntlm 0 0
//192.168.1.139/f /media/f/ cifs credentials=/home/user/.smbcredentials/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,sec=ntlm 0 0
//192.168.1.139/g /media/g/ cifs credentials=/home/user/.smbcredentials/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,sec=ntlm 0 0
//192.168.1.139/h /media/h/ cifs credentials=/home/user/.smbcredentials/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,sec=ntlm 0 0
//192.168.1.139/i /media/i/ cifs credentials=/home/user/.smbcredentials/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,sec=ntlm 0 0
//192.168.1.139/m /media/m/ cifs credentials=/home/user/.smbcredentials/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,sec=ntlm 0 0

I hoped this guide would be what I needed, but it hasn't been of much use: https://pthree.org/2012/12/31/zfs-administration-part-xv-iscsi-nfs-and-samba/

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>>61613751
So '*' adds the teminating slash to the expansion? Honestly I'd have tried it out by now but I switched machines and forgot all about it.

>>61613987
I don't have a guide but I don't think setting up samba changes based on the underlying filesystem.

>>61613951
Samba file and print service, asterisk VoIP, firewall/VPN, dovecot mail service, just to name a few.

>>61614066
It could possibly change depending on whether the underlying file system supports extended ACLs.

Right lads, it's finally happening.

I'm going to go head-first into installing Linux.

I really like the look of KDE and Manjaro looks particularly nice. But I know that's not the only beautiful looking DE, and there are better distros available.

Is there any distro that is both beautiful and functional? Or riceable? I don't care much for apps, as long as I can use it for virtualization.

>>61614025
"ls" is one such program that is designed to show the "true" files, recognizing symlinks as symlinks, but will go "into" symlinked directories if told to, like you did

the first command you wrote is telling ls "what is /games", and the latter is saying "what is IN /games/"
the "trailing slash" is how you explicitly tell things to treat the last name as a directory, in some cases it's important to know when to use a trailing slash, things like tar and rsync for example can do very different things depending on whether you use it or not

you can tell ls to never treat symlinks as symlinks as well, if need be

% ln -s /tmp games
% ls --dereference-command-line-symlink-to-dir games 
games
lost+found
paletemp
...

>>61601983
I too,vote Crux.

https://www.dwheeler.com/essays/filenames-in-shell.html

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Why would I be getting this error?

>>61614174
many many things will fit those criteria, including manjaro + kde
>riceable
most riceable popular de is going to be xfce
many distros themselves are riceable, esp if they have a netinstaller with a minimal option, like debian ubuntu fedora etc. you don't have to go to arch or like-arch

for best kde experience go kde neon

How can I best sort through a folder of 2 million images? Gwenview uses too much memory.

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>>61614137
>VPN
Yeah, that's what actually got me first thinking this because we've recently installed a VPN server to provide connectivity for 170 users.
>asterisk VoIP
Looks interesting, I'll look into it... although we actually provide Gamma/Horizon systems and so I can't see this getting much use.
>dovecot mail service
Will have to look into this....

thanks

>>61606773
Shell glob doesn't expand symlinks to foo/. It depends on the command how they are handled.

>>61614469
try adding your user to sambashare group
usermod -a -G sambashare [username]

>>61614668
with sudo of course i forgot

>>61614668
>>61614689
No change.

Which is the best version of st? There are so many in the aur.

>>61614870
Did you logout and login again?

>>61614944
Just did now, still no change. :|

>>61614995
I'm not sure. you could always just edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and something like this and start samba server.

[SHARE]
comment = share
path = /home/user/folder
guest ok = no
browseable = yes
read only = yes
read list = user1

>>61614995
>>61615072
or use nfs which is a little easier if you dont need to share with windows at all.

No matter how many times i use dkms to install the vbox modules,it never fucking works.
I've rebooted after install it and it still fails to use the vboxdrv module.
What in the fuck is going one

>>61615339
Are there compilation errors or loading errors and what are they?

>>61615477
There are no errors/warning,it completes the command

>>61601654
How can I become as cool as that penguin

>>61615544
> fails to use the vboxdrv module
Then how do you know this?

>>61615598

modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'vboxdrv': Exec format error

>>61615630
make sure your kernel and kernel-headers match and are both up to date

>>61615805
They are.

>>61615847
what happens when you modprobe vboxdrv? any errors?

>>61615894
This happens when i modprobe it
>>61615630

>>61615894
oh im dumbass. should have seen that. looks like this is a pretty common error. What distro are you using?

>>61615907
>>61615977
meant to reply to this but I dont know why. You could use kvm with virt-manager has a nice interface if that is an option for you instead.

>>61615630
That means you are trying to load a module built against a different kernel to the one running.
use modinfo on the module and compare the vermagic to uname -r to confirm.

How do I make i3 have wobbly windows?

>>61616252
I think that is a compiz thing.

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Stupid question: I want to install foobar2k on one partition so that it can be accessed by both win7 and SUSE (through wine). so its components work properly.
Would it work if i made a FAT partition and installed foobar there?
pic related: what happens when i try to run foobar.exe from the NTFS partition.

What are the best distros for:
-cyber security
-programming
-offensive hacking
-combine both of the three

>>61616394
All of them

>>61616396
Can you be specific?

>>61616394
https://distrowatch.com/

>>61616409
Every linux and *bsd distro's are good for security.
You install the exact same packages on every one of them to use.

>>61616409
install your favourite distro and install the packages/scripts that you need for security stuff

>>61616422
>>61616433
If they're the same why are there so many of them?

>>61616332
there's a hint in the error, "noexec filesystem?"
have you checked you didn't mount the partition it's on with noexec?

if you don't know, "noexec" is a mount option which tells linux not to permit files to be executed from that volume, even if they have filesystem execute permission
it's commonly used for untrusted things like external storage

>>61616493
Package managers
Release style: Scheduled,rolling

>>61616512
I didn't know something like that exists. I'll take a look into that and change my mount script so it works, thanks a lot buddy.

>>61616600
np

>>61616493
Philosophy behind the distro, which directly influx on the packages it uses and how it's developers deal with different problems.

Fedora can use the same programs as gentoo, but the distros are still very different.

>>61615583
install source mage

Haven't run Linux in close to five years, considering giving it another shot. Out of all the things I looked at, Deepin caught my eye the most. Seems there's some controversy around the disto itself though, and some people just use the desktop environment as opposed to the distro(Manjaro seems to be a popular pairing) itself.

wat do. Should I go with the distro, or just use the DE? Stuff in the OP doesn't have a whole ton about the distro.

How do I give an account permission to only view/edit a certain folder? (apache virtual host folder/ ubuntu 14.04)

Which Linux should I install? There are so many different versions.

>>61617887
4.12 is a good bet.

>>61617887
Install the lastest, which is Arch

>>61617887
4.12 for a normal desktop, 4.9 (LTS) if it's a server

>>61617887
the latest GNU Linux-libre

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>>61617887
Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>61617887
Parabola. It's like Arch but your soul will feel free.

A little while ago I installed a development version of Linux manually, and I don't need it anymore.
Just to make sure, what do I need to delete to make sure I get all of it.
/boot/vmlinuz-whatever
/boot/initramfs-whatever.img
/boot/initramfs-whatever-fallback.img
/etc/mkinitcpio.d/whatever.preset (because Arch)
/usr/lib/modules/whatever/
Update the GRUB boot menu

Is there anything I'm missing?

>>61617306
>origin china
>systemd

Honestly, it smells like botnet. But if you don't mind that, test it.
If the only thing about the distro that calls your attention is the DE, then just go with another distro and install DDE in said distro and call it a day.
But again, if you don't mind all of that botnet thing, try both options and see what you like the most

Is 4chan a botnet?

>>61602593
>It's like buying a car and then taking the engine and all the parts out and then putting in your own parts and engine.

lot's of car enthusiasts do this for fun desu

>>61617994
yes

>>61617994
Yes.

how do i install gentoo on my phone

What distro should i choose for my hp microserver gen8 g1610t? Iam going to use it as a fileserver and nothing more

>>61618766
freenas or omv

>>61618839
do you know if freenas work with my raid controller?

will I encounter any problems with cooler master usb, headphone jack, etc hardware on their cases? I remember researching a cooler master keyboard and one of their staff said they dont officially support linux

>>61618914
no idea, google it.

I used omv because freenas didnt work with my keyboard, im not using raid

>>61619006
nvm, freenas require 8gb, i only have 4

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trying to compile ffmpeg, and get this
can't find anything that helps (everything i've found, they just didn't have x264 installed, which i do)

>>61619464
welp, guess i'm not installing gentoo today
can't go without x264