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Watercooling, pretty cool, right? But it's somewhat expensive

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Watercooling, pretty cool, right? But it's somewhat expensive isn't it?

So i thought, why not make it myself, it can't be all that hard, right? I went out and bought a garden fountain pump. I figured i'd just use some garden hose for the piping, sounds good eh?
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A somewhat powerful pump for my application but eh whatever, the bigger the better am i right?
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>not buying proper chink knockoff fittings on Alibabies
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I decided to use just an ordinary plastic container as the reservoir.
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Here's the basic idea, pump goes in, pipes go in, simple stuff.
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Here's the radiator, torn off of a motorbike maybe, i also ziptied a fan to it.
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Here's the whole thing, also some 2mm copper plate i bought (going way over budget here).
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Now then for the cpu block, i decided to go with a layered design. Here's the piece that comes on top of the cpu.
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Then the middle layer.
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The top layer has two holes and two pieces of copper pipe over which i can fit the garden hose.
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Here's the bottom piece soldered to the middle piece. Some grooves were added to increase the surface area that comes in contact with the liquid.
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Here's a view inside from the top.
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And here's the whole thing assembled.
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I've left it running overnight to see if any of the water leaks.
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>>61498902
Form follows function, I like it. Now stress test it and post temps.
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I would pay up to 3000 monopoly dollars for this
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This is fucking awesome, OP. Great thread.
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>>61498902
Why.
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>>61499246
>>61499284
>>61499291

People who have never touched an internal computer component. Back to >>>/v/
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subscribed
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Are you sure saving a few dollars is worth potentially fucking your expensive hardware?
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>>61498902
its gonna evaporate
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Also, just to make this all even more pointless my cpu is i5 4690 with a tower fan so i can't even overclock it or anything so i can't really gain any benefit from the increased cooling performance.
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>>61499117
>Alternate-future high performance USSR computing, as imagined by OP
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Teehee! Best thread on /g/
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>>61499328
I mean ive already spent like 50 bucks now, 20 for the pump and 30 for the 3kg of copper i bought. So it's not like i'm actually even saving any money here.
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>>61499356
awesome job OP, best thread ATM

and the temp results?
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>>61499356
Materials: $50
Opportunity to tinker: priceless
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OP is crazy but keep it going since /g/ is a shithole of AMD vs the world, muh keyboard, muh watch and other worthless threads right now.
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>>61498902
I did this a while ago with an i7 920. I used a similar fountain pump, a car heater core as the radiator, and a plastic storage bin as the reservoir. It worked very well, no problems. I also used toothpaste as TIM!
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>>61499394
I'll make a new thread in a few days with temp results after i make sure that there are no leaks and get it installed into my computer.

Also, here's the victim in question.
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While pointless, this is fuckin' neat. I applaud your ingenuity. You've done more than most of the posters on this board can.

Is the reservoir sealed?
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>>61499733
Oh yeah evaporation's gonna be an issue, i guess i ought to put a lid on it.
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OP YOU ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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Are you also going to OC to insane clocks if it works well?
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>>61499849
>>61499339
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What happened to this thread? Did OP kill his pc?
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I made my first and only water cooled setup back in 2002 for a Tualatin CPU that I overclocked from 1.1GHz to 1.44GHz. That was pretty impressive for the time.

For the CPU block I just took a regular heatsink and JB welded aluminum sheet on the top and sides and then drilled two holes for plastic barb fittings. The pump was some small cheap fountain pump I bought at home depot and the radiator was from a drinking fountain. Made a reservoir out of a scrap piece of acrylic tube. Fucking setup ran for probably two years without any problems before I moved on to something else.
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>>61498902
All good to do I yourself , looks like a good diy job so far. One thing though is that you got 230v pump , might want 12v so you can wire it to your psu
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jesus christ
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>>61502622
odd reaction. water cooling is primitive, ancient technology. there's nothing extreme about this.
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Honestly I really miss these ghetto mods to computers, way more interesting than the standard lego computers.

Now let's see if it works.
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>>61504558
Yup, when wanting a case window meant cutting it yourself. I put the ati logo on one of the side panels. Wish I had a picture of that.
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GO OP GO


YOU CAN DO IT
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>>61498902
Nowerdays most ppl just do a full costom water loop for the looks, since there are no real benefits to be had over a good air cooled setup in term of noise and OC headroom (unless you run a multi GPU system). Housefire-X and vega might chage that however.
And watever it is youre building has nothing to do with good looks, just improving the chance to break your system.
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Okay it seems that there are no leaks so far just some evaporation. I'll start attaching it to my computer but first i've gotta see the temperatures with the current setup, what cpu stress tester would you guys recommend?
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>>61505710
Prime95 is a good option
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>>61505710
Prime 95 ?

Also you should sand down the base of your waterblock for maximum contact with the chip

Quality thread OP, I love tinkering with shit and seeing other people do it
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>>61505848
Oh yeah its been sanded a lot, it's just that there are some dents on it from when i hit it with a hammer.
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Alright i ended up using Aida64 for the stress test, here are the temps without watercooling.
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>>61505904
You should polish it starting with low grid, then to high grid sandpaper and hen a rag with polishing compound. You can make copper shine really well. (Which will be better for thermal contact)
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Include me in screencap
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>>61506219
>2 hours ago
RIP OP
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Alright, got the parts off of the old comp i'll start assembling at some point.
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>>61509547
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>>61507468
Once that screencap comes out, I'm going to tell everyone it was me who wrote that.
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>>61509567
did you braze the water block on the CPU or use epoxy?
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guys I want to be in in the meme post plz include me

subscribe to me on youtube

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>>61509915
The block is constructer of layered levels of copper soldered together, it will be attached to the motherboard by screws.
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Pretty cool stuff, OP.
Lookin' forward to the temps.
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>>61498902
Nice OP :) Something that is actually cool on /g/ xd
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Hey OP. Good start. Now can you polish this off?

The part list to make your own water cooling is simple, but the parts being made are only designed for a very limited application, and that makes them expensive.

Sure, you can probably use some military grade ATF cooler for your radiator, but in the end mixing high performance parts that are designed to cool against high oil pressure, and instead sending them via some $10 aquarium pump isnt going to cut it.
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I would be more impressed if Linus shill tips hasn't already built his own.
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>>61512910
Did he actually build it, or just talk about what his crew built on camera?
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>>61513029
It was in scrapyard wars where one of the challenges was building your own custom cooling system using nothing but parts that weren't meant for computers
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>>61514630
People have been rigging coolers together using automotive salvage and home depo tubing for a good twenty years
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Seems like the thread for a related question. Would it be possible to waterproof a pc and then submerge it in cold water, then just add ice every now and then?
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>>61514988
yes, put passive heatsinks everywhere you can, then cover the whole thing with silicone except the heatsinks
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>>61514988
that's a fucking awful idea but i suppose technically. just submerge it in mineral oil instead
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>>61515538
Why though? Submerge in coolant in a tank, then cool the tank.
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>>61498902
Redline auto products make something called 'Water Wetter'. It increases the thermal conductivity of water.

Anybody who thinks this is a waste of time and is lurking/posting on 4chan has something very wrong going on with their mind.
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>>61498902
Novec 7000 if you want to submerge
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>>61517090
I considered using water wetter as a corrosion inhibitor in my loop but decided against it due to the risk of alcohol damaging/cracking the acrylic block/res in my loop and instead went for a 15% ish ethylene glycol to water mix (pretty much what every aio uses for the same purpose)

tl;dr don't use water wetter if you have acrylic in your loop unless you want to risk ruining it.
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>>61498921
This, order some chinkshit Festo knockoffs, both connectors and tubes.
They'll probably be cheaper than the garden hose too.
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Bump. OP come back.
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Has OP been electrocuted? :(
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ITT: no one who remembers the before time when this WAS watercooling. It was mostly fishtank parts and heater cores. Commercial stuff wasn't available.
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>Linus makes a video about it
>/g/ hates it
>Linus makes a thread about it on /g/
>/g/ loves it
???
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>>61521745
na, i remember
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Neat thread, OP. You were not a faggot this time.
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>>61521745
I member.
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what about cross metal contamination? you can buy complete sets for like 140 dude.
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Should've gone with a full size car radiator, even new they're really cheap and you have the bonus of them not being full of rust/other dirt that'll block stuff up.

Here's my slightly less ghetto setup I built a few years back. Easily cools a 4.9GHz 3770k, and my experimentation with some CFD software suggests that buying a proper waterblock would work even better.
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Sorry for the delay, i finally got the block installed.
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>>61522309
what is that above the case?
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>>61523275
An utterly ineffectual peltier heatpump. Way too much work to remove it, and the air bleed valve is on the side of it, which is necessary when refilling as the system is sealed.
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>>61523275
That's for me to stick up my ass
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>>61523348
Are you Dr. Frankenstein.
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>>61523348
What the fuck.
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>>61522309
>>61523348
>dat corrosion on pipe fittings...
dude, hope that shit doesn't burn your house down once it leaks and fries all your components.
hope you don't live in an apartment building and kill other people with your own stupidity.
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>>61522309
I wonder how much you could overclock a 2500K with that type of watercooling? WaybackTECH actually had a 5.0GHz OCed 2500K with a regular water cooler.
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>>61515802
This
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>>61522309
That's a big radiator.
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why though
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>>61523489
Where do you see corrosion? What you're seeing is probably either solder of flexible adhesive. The water came out completely clear after 3 years without a change.

>>61523513
It's being held back by the less than optimal waterblock, and me not wanting to let it get to 80C under prime95. Probably could be stable at 5GHz and stay below the temp limit.

>>61523884
Got a BMW 7-series rad for the next build with double the fin area. Also fitting filters so it doesn't eat dust like crazy.
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This build was put together by a CIA nigger.
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>>61524035
Is that dust normal? Looks like grains of sand
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As someone with a loop, I commend you anon. Building my loop was unnerving enough, so doing something like this must've been quite the scare.
Still, good on you for giving it a go!
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Didn't moot made his own water cooling back in the day?
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I decided to just hang the radiator on the side, who needs side panels anyway am i right?
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>>61524342
he just submerged the mac mini cluster in mineral oil
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>>61524574
are you sure the radiator is of the same material as the block ?
It has to be the same material.
When th material is different, then one of the elements will corrode due to the galvanic series.
Link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_series
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion
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>>61499356
fittings are around 5 - 20 dollars each. you'll need atleast 8 fittings for a watercooling rig. You've already saved money and i didnt get to the pump, reservoir, radiator, cpu block, gpu block, and tubing.
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>>61524652
It's fine since the metals aren't touching eachothers isn't it?
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>>61524253
I run a CNC router and a bandsaw in the same room, so a lot of that is probably MDF dust. Normal dust can get just as bad if it's been left a while.

>>61524660
CPU/GPU blocks are worth buying unless you have a well equipped machine shop. Other than that buying dedicated PC watercooling parts it a total rip-off for what are essentially common 1/4BSP pipe fittings.
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>>61524778
I would have bought the block but i couldn't find anyone selling just the block alone for a reasonable price in my area, i guess i could have ordered it online but ehh.
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>>61524772
they dont need to touch for galvanic corrosion
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>>61524939
Is copper + what i presume to be some sort of steel bad? What are radiators usually even made with? Hopefully not aluminum.
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>>61524840
Fair enough, my 2mm+ pitch fins machined from a solid copper block seem to work well enough.

I did some simulation work back when I had access to the university CAD server to compare different fin heights/pitches. It turns out that packing in lots of thin, fine pitched fins is significantly better than thicker taller fins. In theory, the extremely fine fin arrays in closed loop coolers are the best you can get.

TLDR; commercial waterblocks are made the way they are for a reason.
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>>61525078
i just want you to know that your system WILL leak due to galvanic corrosion.
What you do with this information is your bread.
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>>61525258
What materials do commercial liquid cooling systems use then? I know they use copper for the blocks but what about the radiators?
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>>61522037
member the Alamo?
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>>61499023
Is that an AM2 CPU?
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>>61525258
metallic materials op used seem thick enough hopefully they'll be fine for months
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>>61499339
>ASUS Z97-A
But you can, increase BLCK.
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>>61525422
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>>61525508
my 3 core athlon II had a secret disabled core once and I enabled it just to see if it worked, and it did, but my idle temps were unstable, so I just reverted back. Have you ever tried to see if yours has one?
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>>61525608
if there's a 4 core version of your chip, then your 3 or 2 core version will have 4 cores
they don't make low end parts intentionally, they're simply failed high end parts
that is, a 3 core chip is a 4 core that had one core fail testing, so was disabled
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Hey btw when i left it running overnight this fine dust collected in the bottom of the reservoir, thw color is gray with a tiny bit of green. What do you guys think this stuff is?
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>>61525862
Whoops
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>>61525878
Could just be residual coolant/ bits of corrosion left in the rad. Did you rinse it out well before using it ? Shouldn't be anything to worry about, will probably go away after a couple of water changes.
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>>61524939
They don't need to touch but they do need to be electrically connected. Two separate metals connected only by water won't corrode, so OP just needs to be careful to keep his radiator and cpu block electrically insulated from one another.
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>>61525878
Green would worry me. Copper corrosion is green.
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>>61499355
>using the smiley with the carrot nose
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>>61501231
>Tualatin
Fuckin based. I had two of those in an iwill dvd266urn. One of my favorite machines.
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Drop some ice in that water bucket for extra FPS
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Alright it's all finally more or less done, i'm adding a few more fans to the radiator for maximum airflow.
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>>61498902
This is the first quality thread we have had in a long time

fucking generals have ruined /g/
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>>61526473
>what are ions

OP you need to use some sort of corrosion inhibitor in that loop if you want to run it long time. Otherwise corrosion will start eating up that aluminium radiator. If you want to keep it cheap just get some car coolant and use that (premix or concentrate), since it should have all the needed additives.
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What the hell my goddamn RAM's acting up, i've never before had any problems and when i tried em in a different comp they worked fine.
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>>61524778
Is a radiator this big good enough for just air cooling?

If so I would be tempted to do this.
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>>61528641
Ions move along the potential gradient caused by the dissimilar metals. As such, they move only one way, and there needs to be an alternative path for the electrons to take to enable it.
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>>61523348
Im not sure if that is a computer or an explosive device
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>>61528850
>e
hory shit why are you using a garden hose in your computer? also nice spaghetti anon
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Okay so here are some temps, i'm not quite sure how impressive they are but they are what they are.

Someone mentioned that i could overclock the processor with this Z97-A mobo of mine, do i just go into bios and so on or what?
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>>61530019
This garden hose is some great stuff my man, a bit stiff i'll admit but still it works.
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Tried cutting the pump a few times, the temperature increase is truly quite a lot.
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How much did it cost you so far?
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>>61531456
24e for pump if i remember correctly and 30e for 3kg of copper of which i used maybe 500g. Also, a lot of time.
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I like to fuck around on my workshop as much as anyone else, but I'm going to guess that had you spent all that time diy doing extra hours, you'd have a few extra bucks to buy a professional system with no leaks
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>>61526957
Carat*
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>>61509872
No one will believe you demon nigger
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>>61522309
>Turn on your computer
>It flies away
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Those solder joints look pretty bad. Make sure you use flux so it flows into the joints
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I like how it looks
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>>61523843
Seconded, can anyone explain why this wouldn't work and be super effective?
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>>61530066
Hoy crap. I did not expect a ~10 °C delta. Actually, I did not even expect the computer to survive.
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>>61528475
do you need a motorcycle license to operate that?
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That works... shockingly well.

Good cools to you anon
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>>61525710
damn that's a smart business move.
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>>61534367
yea, it's the same with some other specs like cache and frequency
they just test each chip to see what works and what it can handle, then round that down to the nearest of a number of 'models'
the process is called 'binning' if you want to look into it further
this rounding down is also what people are talking about when they say 'the silicon lottery', which refers to how lucky someone is with a particular chip in relation to how much it will overclock, which depends on how far off it was from being a higher end model, if a low end chip only barely didn't make it to be a higher end model, one could potentially overclock it to be nearly as good as a high end model, or even as good with higher-than-spec voltage
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Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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