Why is USA so technologically impaired compared to Europe? It's

>>61453160
>Why is USA so technologically impaired compared to Europe?
They're memed into believing that the free market is good for you.

older cables because made earlier plus a lot more land to cover and jews

the first mover gets stuck with the worst legacy crap a few decades later

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>most americans STILL don't use one of these
literally decades old technology in yurop

>mfw i pay for everything with my phone

>>61453160
They spend all the disposable income on their healthcare insurance at Goldbersteinblatt & Sons Insurance Inc.
But hey - at least poor people still die on the street as desired so Dog Bless America.

>>61453896
not sure where you're getting your info, almost all CC's in the US have the chip now.

>>61454239
My American friends tell me that even though banks issue cards with chips on them, retailer support for it is poor (especially outside of major retailers), so they don't bother using it

I visited NYC recently and it was weird having to swipe my card and then sign a paper to pay for things.

At home I just tap my wallet on the machine and it pays instantly.

Who doesn't the US have these technologies yet?


>>61453247
I would argue that the UK moved just as early as the US but they aren't as far behind as the US is.

>>61454263
American living in Metropolitan Detroit here.
Retailer support for chips is quite good here, even in the poorest of neighborhoods/'burbs.
You're friends must live in some super rural areas or something.

>>61454263
Well 95% of my purchases are at retailers who have the chip reader (such as Walmart and Kroger). The only places I've seen that don't have it these days are smaller restaurants.

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>>61453160
Murricans believe in capitalism and free market

but they their current state is not democracy but corporatism

For example internet providers

Seriously how dumb you have to be to listen for a such arguments for ages?
>we have shitty infrastructure because we were first and country is big

There are 3 major internet providers which created cartel like situation where its more profitable for them to fuck users in the ass with data caps and throttling speed and low speed than spend some money and upgrade fucking infrastructure.

I am not sure if murricans are aware but majority of fibers are made of plastic.


There is similar situation in their """free market""" health care. Group of jews set the price on ridiculous level so many people can not afford healthcare. On the other hand we have germany, country that has free health care, budget surplus and their physicans make fair money.


Keep getting fucked up the arse in the name of """corporations""" and bribery called "lobbying""" in murrica

>>61454239
>>61454263

US just finally getting them now as the rest of the world moves onto contactless payments.

>>61454359
>free health care
publicly funded health care.
It's not free you dumb fuck if you pay for it in taxes.

>>61453896
What's the point? Cash is better

>>61454433
Free as you are not paying bills after visit, its quite obvious that money are not printed from air or maybe their are like in usd fed hmmm?

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>continent where almost nobody owns a gun, a car or an air conditioner
>calling others technologically backwards
I bet this chart also pleases you because the evil Americunts fall all the way to second place while your country...

>>61454372
europoor here. I've explicitly deactivated contactless payments as they are fucking stupid

you might save 5 seconds of your life but at the same time expose your economy to frauds

>>61454480
needing to own a car to move around is a sign that your country is underdeveloped, not exactly something to be proud of. AC is not cost effective for yuros as the cost of energy can be up to twice as much as in the US and it only gets hot for like one month a year.

also the fact that the US is so incredibly wealthy yet its people have such a low standard of living is just embarrassing

>>61454502

>you might save 5 seconds of your life but at the same time expose your economy to frauds


How is that? There is a bigger chance of scam with putting your card in and typing pin.

Every card with contactless payments has small limit for contacless payments like 50euros, you can pay like that any sum, but if its higher than 50euros you have to also type pin.

Out of box there is also money limit that can be spend daily so even if somebody will steal your card he will not spend too much and due to card payments nature they will return all your money with chargeback

lel

>>61454480
>I only value technology that allows me to kill others, kill myself or kill the planet

Been to us for tourism its a shithole.
The only burgers left are fat and autistic.

>>61454534
yes, but anything under the limit (50 eur or whatever) may be simply swiped away without you ever knowing about it untill you check your account

>>61454502
But the max you can pay on contactless is £30.
Are you really that worried about the extremely slim chance that you could lose £30?

Another /pol/ thread on /g/. Shocking.

>>61454546
why do you call it slim?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-39942246

>>61454551
fuck off with these stupid comments. sure is summer in here

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>>61454527
Wasn't there a heat wave in Europe that killed like 30,000 people

>>61454480
dont know about all of erope but on the east side every fucking body has ac

>>61454433
It's free at the point of access.

If you are disabled and never had a job (and thus never paid taxes). You can still use it just like anyone else.

>>61454573
Its natural reaction when somebody points out that your country is not the best in every possible statistic

We really have the wrong image of America. Hollywood films are mostly to blame, since they present the life style of the upper ten thousand, which most Americans themselves experience though films. American observers waver between unlimited admiration and deep contempt. Superficial observers admire it, real experts always hold it in contempt. There is certainly much that is at first glance impressive in this new part of the world still in its adolescence.

The height of the skyscrapers is, however, no measure of the level of culture.

If the Americans lacked money, they would probably be the most despised people in the world. Superiority is nowhere as annoying as with them. They naturally build the best airplanes and tanks, and by the hundreds of thousands. They have the best generals and soldiers, and their defeats are only proof of their intelligence in destroying the bravery of their enemies. Their president is a demigod,

>>61454480
>air conditioner
Probably cause people with fat reserves of a fucking polar bear are not in the majority here. See Bergmann's rule. Americans are just too fat to live in a country as warm as the US.

>>61454359
>On the other hand we have germany, country that has free health care, budget surplus and their physicans make fair money
They do pretty well for a country that started and lost two world wars.

>>61454480
I'm more surprised to see Nigeria that far up the list actually.

>>61454580
I had fucking snow in may this year.

How would ac help when majority of people who died due to sun were spending too much time in the sun during heat wave or jump into water after hours on sun?

>>61454611
thanks pseudo hitler

>>61454580
Your image is irrelevant, the public transportation issue applies on a local scale too in the US. If you live somewhere that isn't NYC you need a car to get around inside your own city, that is absolutely ridiculous for a developed country.

>ITT
>americunts and eurofags measuring their dicks
What a bunch of assholes, at least americans don't have France.

>>61454664
>superior poojet standing aside
>pants down with his dicklet hanging
>shitting in the street

>>61454641
Majority of the cities in the North-East have decent to adequate public transportation but yeah pretty much everywhere else in the country is fucking awful.

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>>61454625
Without being too optimistic about the issues of crime and poverty, it's still true that Nigeria has the largest, wealthiest, most important megalopolis on the entire continent and that's a real advantage in the modern economic world

>>61454326
Are you retarded? Everyone has Android and apple wallets in California. I haven't seen any of my physical cards in months.

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>>61454684
>implying pajeet
Hahahaha it hit you hard, frenchie

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>>61454641
I would expect European public transport to begin to degrade as your demographics become more similar to the United States

The "car culture" was born when people realized there were people you do NOT want to spend hours imprisoned in a metal tube with

I've noticed just recently trains in the EU have started exploding or having maniacs run around stabbing people so maybe car sales will tick up

Well Americans are fat and disgusting cant wake their lazy ass and work on some tech gigs

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>when eurofags count just a few countries
>when amerifags just count a states
Come on, both of you are autistic as fuck and just are measuring dicks over the internet

>>61454614
Explain the 15000 French that died in a heatwave because they believe ac is "unhealthy."

>>61454724
>imblying baguette
try again pookachu

>>61454759
natural selection

>>61454711
I'm not talking about phone payments. I'm talking about contactless chips in debit cards.

Hardly anyone uses phone payments any more since they came out.

>>61454731
The Irish have been blowing up our trains for decades

>>61454641
Jesus, it's like you have never been to the US, and have no idea the distances involved.

>>61454759
They're french, they're naturally retarded.
Also, is this still about technology?

>>61454776
France is such a third world shithole they can't afford ac to keep from dying during the summer.

>>61454790
This whole thread is /pol/, but you fags are too scared to post there, so you come here and shit up the board with your circlejerks.

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>>61454789
>american reading comprehension
I'm not talking about traveling across large distances (although WEU has the USA beat in this area too, a 9 hour train journey in Germany takes 14 hours in the USA - and that's a supposedly well-developed part of the country). I'm talking about how you physically cannot exist in the average American city/town without an automobile. Good luck walking to the store or school from your nice suburban home.

>>61454829
>scared
2manydicks4me plus hiro ruined it with the flags

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>>61454839
Do Americans really live in places like this?

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>>61454829
>/pol/ raped me
The less you post about it, the better
Now, stop measuring your dicks with people you don't know

>>61454839
Why would anyone want to use public transportation? It's unfathomable why anyone would choose to travel with poor people and minorities rather than your own comfy vehicle. No one wants that shit here, or to have to pay for the trillions to get it.

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>>61454859
Vegas is a crazy place

>>61454859
Yes, all 320 million or so.

>>61454872
>american """middle class""" person acts like he's above the riff-raff
every problem with the US can be explained by poor people who think they aren't poor hating the poor

>>61454451
Cash will be illegal soon to combat terrorism

>>61454433
i hope you get raped by debt, burger.

>>61454480
50% gross domestic product increase in 33 years
Holy shit my country is doomed, we had a 100% inflation in the last 15 years


We are so fottuti

yeah this is a pretty confusing thread topic

>>61454892
>not wanting disease and to choose your own path == bad
pleb

>>61454451
>reach into pocket
>take out wallet
>open wallet and look for the appropriate bills
>hand over to cashier
>wait 5 minutes while retarded teenager gets your change
>leave with goods
vs
>reach into pocket
>take out wallet
>tap wallet on contactless scanner
>leave with your goods

Not to mention the fact that muggings are so much more common in America because people carry around large amounts of cash, it's not profitable to mug people here because all they carry is a phone (which is a brick once stolen) and a credit/debit card (which is rendered useless within 5 minutes of the mugging)

>>61454614
Try living in the swamp known as the Southeastern United States without an air conditioner. I'm 180cm 86kg and I would unironically die without AC.

>>61454892
Ok lad, my salary is above Germonies average, so I can afford a car. Sorry you are so poor you have to take a train everywhere. Nothing stopping anyone from hopping on a plane and taking 4 hours to get across the US, unless you are poor.

>>61454972
>Nothing stopping anyone from hopping on a plane and taking 4 hours to get across the US, unless you are poor.
What if I don't want to be molested by a """"""""""""""""""security""""""""""""""" agency?

>>61454527
>Low standards of living
>The US

This is a myth that retards seem to keep spouting while ignoring that the standards of living in the US is better than most of Europe.

>>61454950
But what if you want to buy a watermelon from Cleetus?

>>61454829
This whole site is /pol/ and this thread is where we discuss technology. Where do you think you are?

>>61454964
Quit trying to reason with the poors, they have obviously never looked at a map.

Europeans...have to pay for tap water at resteraunts

>>61454465
>>61454596
>>61454916
Funny to see everyone convinced i'm somehow an Ameriturd for pointing out this obvious lie.

Our healthcare isn't free, our physicians, nurses, paramedics and other medical personnel don't work for free. They work for money, money raised from taxes paid by us. It's not free, it's publicly funded, stop spreading lies you retarded shills.

And in before one of you faggots sperg out yes absolutely single payer is superior to the jewish abomination americans have. Still, doesn't make it free. Publicly funded.

>>61454984
what are you, a terrorist?

>>61454984
Hopelessly overblown meme. Thanks for confirming your ignorance.

>>61455007
And Americans can't drink tap water because it's toxic and makes them grow tits.

>>61455010
i remember when i was 14 and liked always pointing out how people are technically wrong

>>61455007
Amehricans... have to leave a tip at restaurants

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>>61454964
>too dumb to open a window

>>61455029
And now your 15. Congrats

>>61455034
>open window
>heat wave rapes its way inside
>die
well done einstein

>>61455034
>Too stupid to look at a map

>>61455034
opening a window would literally make it worse you fucking retard

>>61455029
So now you're 14 and 6 months and started enjoying the rest of the world living in ignorance? Why?

A continent with daily terrorist attacks is trying to lecture an economically and culturally superior country about technology (even though the tech these Europeans are bragging about we're all developed and created in the US)

Maybe you guys should sort your refugee problem out before bitching about America on a Chinese politics forum.

>>61455070
The point is that "free" in the phrase "free healthcare" clearly refers to "free at the point of access". Of course it is being paid for by public money, noone actually believes it is free as in it's just magicked out of thin air. You're trying to argue against an imaginary person.

>>61455098
It's "free" and it only costs the 40 to 60% of your income you pay in taxes

>>61455082
Americans die in mass killings every day, why is it any better that it's white people doing those mass killings as opposed to sandniggers?

>>61455098
>clearly refers to "free at the point of access"
In your damage-controlling mind maybe.
Americans covered by insurance don't pay at the point of access either.
Yet not a single one of them refers to their system as "free" you dumb cunt.

>>61455082
A continent with daily terrorist attacks (even though they were all developed and created in the US) is trying to lecture an economically and culturally superior country about technology

Maybe you guys should sort your illegal immigrant problem out before bitching about Europe on a Chinese politics forum.

>>61455113
the murder rate is 80% minorities

>>61455010

Good thing I am NEET and don't pay taxes. Go back to work and pay for my healthcare you fucking pleb.

>>61455106
Americans actually pay more per capita for their various shitty bloated inefficient government healthcare schemes than Euros do for their universal healthcare, and then they have to pay for insurance on top of that.

>>61455121
You still get a bill from the hospital in America, it's just that your insurance provider pays it. You walk into a hospital, get stitched up, then walk out in Europe and there is no mention of money at any point.

>>61455126
Whole country is 80% minorities you wank.

>>61453160
Simple, Europeans has never had to pander to minorities with subhuman IQs that effectively destroyed the American education system. This is about to change though as Pajeet and his friends is coming to a European country near you.

>>61455126
Individual homicides, yes. I'm talking about mass shootings, of which there is at least one every week (hard to tell as they barely even make the local news), which are both perpetrated by and target white people 99% of the time.

>>61455132
kek

wagecucks BTFO

>>61454480
India, Brazil, Mexico are wealthy and prosperous now?

>What is "per capita"?
>Answer: Getting BTFO by 5 European countries.

>>61455159
It's obvious that you have never taken a statistics class and are unaware of what an anomaly is.

>>61455134
>Americans actually pay more per capita for their various shitty bloated inefficient government healthcare schemes than Euros do for their universal healthcare
Wrong, euros earn more than ameriturds, that's why they can cost that level of healthcare.

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>>61454480
india confirmed superpower by 2050 /g/ BTFO

>>61455134
>You still get a bill from the hospital in America, it's just that your insurance provider pays it.
So it's free because I didn't have to pay for it at the access point. Dog bless america, dog bless freedom dog bless F R E E healthcare.

Kek, just stop you're embarassing yourself. Next time simply use the factually correct term of "public funding" to avoid confusion and you being taken as a brainwashed sheep believing government lies.

>>61455200

Oh really? Actually i bet i've taken statistics classes that might have been more advanced than the ones you've taken and i'm pretty sure I know what an anomaly is.
Care to explain your logic?

>>61455212
NHS is billions in the red, and Germonies avg GDP is less than the US

>>61455159
This is literally a lie, mass shootings are overwhelmingly committed by minorities.

>>61455235
You don't know what "free at the point of access" means. You were charged for the services, you simply called a friend who paid the bill for you. In a European hospital you are not charged in the first place. It is "free at the point of access" because if you have access to the service, then you can use it free of charge, regardless of whether or not you personally contributed to it financially (someone who has never paid a penny in tax can walk into a hospital and stay there for a week after having a major surgery without anyone even mentioning the words "money" or "insurance").

>kek
>>>/r/eddit

>>61455243
Where did the largest mass shooting occur? Are you more likely to be shot by a nigger, or killed in a mass shooting in the US? Provide statistics and refrences, since you have advanced training. Be sure to show your work.

Had to work in us for a week
They write the wkrst code imaginable fucking losers
They will never be better than EU

>>61455281
>>>61455235
> (someone who has never paid a penny in tax can walk into a hospital and stay there for a week after having a major surgery without anyone even mentioning the words "money" or "insurance")

Yay free healthcare to Muslims and gypsies who don't pay taxes. Science bless Europe!!!

>>61453160
>Europeans actually believe this

>>61455307
Irrelevant, the original poster talked about terrorist attacks so then the other poster mentioned that the US has plenty of mass shootings, and then questioned why they do not count simply because it's a white person doing it instead of a sandnigger. The discussion is about terrorist attacks and why mass shootings are not considered terrorist attacks by Americans who like to rag on Europe for suffering from them. Not what is more likely to kill you in America.

>>61454950
you're yet another retard who wants physical money to be deprecated and illegal
kill yourself leftist cancer

>>61455332
Mass shooting is by definition not a political act, which terrorism is.

>>61455311
Lol so fucking true
While uk is becoming Londonisthan and us busy fucking trump other countries are enjoying the progress

>>61455307
Mass shootings never factored into my argument, I was talking about how the American education system eroded by pandering to minority groups. But anyway, you probably responded to the wrong post. Have a nice day.

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>>61455082
Ridiculous amount of arrogance is something common for american as described here
>>61454611


What mount everst of of insolence is require to make such statements after your president caused whole arab spring revolution, fucked up syria, fucked up iraq, fucked up libya and support different organisations.

Now europe have to deal with this shit.

Few days ago russia and china agreed to use gold instead petro dollar for operations, but you cant just introduce freedom there and with weak petro dollar your cheap first world living will collapse worse than during bank crisis.

>>61455253
the NHS is not designed to run at a profit and never has been

As long as racism and pollacks live in us it will always be technologically impaired

>>61453160
europe is so far behind from the rest of the world that they unironically release new movies on VHS

>>61455359
Progress: Willingly importing millions of North African settlers because your population can't reproduce quick enough to support itself and becoming a minority in 30 years

>when a person from 42% white country is genuinely confident that somehow Sweden or Germany (both 90%+ white) is the nightmare scenario
So how's /pol/ as your only news source?

>>61455413

Good goy!

>>61454239
Burger here. I barely got a chip in my card this year. My old card didn't have it. A lot of places don't use the chip anyway

>>61455391
>America forced us to take in 10 million refugees!!

Here we go again

>>61455436
>america is such a spic shithole that i actually had to look it up and see if it was really 42%
Not quite that bad, but still only 56%

>>61455395
I don't expect a profit, but they are unable to even pay for what they provide

>>61455456
You are trying your hardest to emulate the US. All it takes is one generation, and now you are 56% swedish, and the minorities are now Pakis, and Africa niggers.

>>61455456
If you started applying the one drop rule (something that ameriturds actually invented) this number would be probably closer to something like 8%.

>>61454502
In Romania we have contactless with pin.

So it only saves you the time it takes to put your card in the reader.

Which is the best of both worlds, imo, because it's safer.

Murica doesn't have contactless?

>>61453169
A free market is good, but it needs borders, rules and regulations to work properly

>>61455562
In Romania, you also have gypsies and houses made out of mud and straw.

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>>61455490
The majorities may become the majority faster than that.

We didn't have daily car-fires 10 years ago. Here's a news story about one today
http://www.norrteljetidning.se/blaljus/brander/bilbrand-vid-ledinge-pendlarparkering
and here's one the day before that
http://www.norrteljetidning.se/blaljus/brander/bilbrand-vid-ledinge-pendlarparkering

We also didn't have gangs openly selling drugs and throwing bricks at the police if they make the mistake of arriving in less than five cars and forget to wear riot-gear.

People are currently moving away from the worst areas, most of Malmö already has a migrant majority because everyone else moved away. Native swedes are already moving to countries like Poland and Russia. Poland refuses to take in rapefugees but they are a EU country so there's no restrictions on movement for citizens of the fascist union.

>>61453169
The US doesn't have a free market. Why is it that the loudest groups against capitalism and the free market seem to have no idea what the free market actually is?

>>61455622
That was like 15 years ago. Didn't you get the memo? Gypsies live in castles now.

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>>61454480
>a gun
We have guns, especially crazy ass prepared fags like the swiss or finns,
Gun cultures are pretty developed too.
We just aren't retarded about them.
>a car
Yet somehow traffic is pretty congested;
>an air conditioner
See them all the time, and i like the East.

>>61455454
NO you retard every single civilized country and america as well signed geneva conventions and several different which require countries to help refugees from countries at war. Europe now has to deal with all immigrants from syria conflict that was started by murricans and deal wit hall immigrants from africa because they have free port in libya hwere after murricans introduced freedom become shithole.


>hurr you do not have to let them in durrr
said murrican from other side of atlantic

>>61455682
i thought they moved to the uk

>>61455685
You don't have millions of feral niggers with guns either

>>61455730
It doesn't say you have to take everyone, that's on you.

>>61455730
Your white women want that nigger cock, Geneva convention is just an excuse.

If the US is so "impaired" then why is /g/ hosted in the US?

Intellectual checkmate, Europoors.

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>>61455730
Obligatory

>>61455156
>Simple, Europeans has never had to pander to minorities with subhuman IQs
what are gypsies, and the recent refugees.
>This is about to change though as Pajeet and his friends
Nigga, you're the one who's getting the indian outsourcing.

Over here, everyone avoids having anything to due with them due to how shit they are.

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>>61455974
You forgot to mention your train system again

>>61454330
Central MA here. I'm positive there's one big chain retailer I go to (not Best Buy is it? I don't know) that doesn't have chip support. But yeah, for national chains it seems like everyone has their shit together.

Not that it's anything to brag about, just tap your card against the reader in the UK I heard, maybe other parts of Europe too.

>>61454950
>tap wallet on contactless scanner
>business gets charged a 5% service fee
>cc company logs your purchase with your Unique Advertiser ID™

Also,
>Get mugged
>shoot negro
>get off free because property theft is a valid use of lethal force in my state

>>61455391
>that picture
Do doctors, engineers, lawyers, and physicists really need welfare? If not why are they in the welfare line?

>>61456004
>Central MA here
My dude. How central? Like worcester?

>>61455311
What are the major European tech companies? Not Apple or Google or Microsoft, not Samsung or Sony or LG, so what do you guys have going for you?

>>61455730
>Opens borders, says it's the fault of the US
>Complains Syrian civil war was started by Americans, rather than Assad shooting his own people
>Complains Libya was an American intervention, rather than UNSC sanctioned and NATO led

>>61456014
Getting charged service fees on contactless scanner is unheard of in Europe.

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>>61455766
>You don't have millions of feral niggers with guns either
Because they don't have guns either
If feral minorities want to duke it out, mostly among themselves, they use weird blades and small pistols to mutilate and kill each other.

>>61454263
Your "American friends" are retarded.

I live in po-dunk KY and every goddamn gas station and small family-owned restaurant supports chip. Hell, even most self-employed laborers carry a Square reader for transactions.

Get with the times, Gramps.

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>>61454326
Damn that doesn't sound like a huge breach of security or anything.

>Be hackerman
>Put device next to a britbong's bum
>$50 is automatically transfered to hackerman's account

>>61453160
Come to Australia if you want to see a technologically impaired country. A lot of us still have shit internet.

>>61454780
>>61453896

The infrastructure costs money and they're run by Jews. Its that simple.

>>61456186
they do this to burgers too

>>61456051
>Opens borders, says it's the fault of the US
Open borders are only inside EU like you do not have fucking borders between different states

>Complains Syrian civil war was started by Americans, rather than Assad shooting his own people

1 goy cent was deposited on your account, you seem toreally believe in this shit

>Complains Libya was an American intervention, rather than UNSC sanctioned and NATO led

NATO is USA

They did this under NATO flags so pubic opinion would not scream again
>murricans are killing again
Because public opinion in west think NATO == the good guys

I do not know what is even point in discussion with you if it was fucking proved over year ago in hillary mail leaks that they did it on purpose.


Did you even wonder what is the reason behind all murrican interventions in last 3 decades? I mean sure most of countries were oil based, but there are other oil based countries where USA did not introduce democracy.

So. Every country that was nuked by usa in last 3 decaded like iraq, libya, syria and countries that are on usa list like iran, all of them were considering to change their oil accountable currency from petro dollar to different.

What is petro dollar? Dollar today is global currency for the world, this is what makes big part of your first world living. If dolar is going to loose his position your life standard is going to get worse in a very short period of time.

>>61456237
I've never seen this in my life, we just have the chip and swipe and it's lightning quick. I only ever have to sign in restaurants for tips.

If it does become a thing it'd deffo be something I'd disable.

>>61455010
Do you really think there's anyone here that doesn't know it's paid for by taxes? Nobody thinks these people work for free.

They just use the word free because it's free at the point of use.

You are arguing a technicality, you moron.

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>>61456240
I think you've had enough fluoride for one morning.

>>61455587
>Free market is good
>Needs regulations tho
IT'S NOT A FUCKING FREE MARKET THEN, IS IT?

I love these Europoor inferiority complex threads. Europoors are such whiny little bitches.

>>61455344
>I think it's better to carry a small anmount of change and a credit card than to carry a fuckton of cash therefore I hold these political beliefs
Retard

>>61456325
Where do you think we are?
Plato's Theory of Forms?

>>61456360
The best kind of threads on /g/

>we are 1st world
>the most powerful nation in the wold
>we can not afford plastic fiber for our network

lmao

>>61456325
>america has a 'constitution' which is essentially a list of what you can't do to someone else
>Americans think they're free
kek

>>61456506
us citizens dont even have the constitution
they are employs of a corporation and every time they go into court and get verified are charged under the laws of the corporation not their human rights
at least they have guns tho

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>>61456506
Wow, really makes you think

>>61456559
Lmao this nigger isn't even posting from Europe, he's posting from a William Gibson novel

>>61456506
*A list of what other people can't do to you
Ftfy

>>61456647
check it faggit

>>61453896
My card's chip broke in two months and I've been purposefully forcing people to deal with the "enter it three times before the system lets you swipe" bullshit.

How do I know the chip on a new card won't bust in another two months? How is this saving anybody money?
Lots of stores in my tri-county area have figured out how to block the chip requirement, and many of the ones that have not wish they could do it.

>its more secure!
Chip-card tech was broken in 2002
>It's faster!
No, it isn't any faster than using the mag strip. What is faster is forcing credit instead of debit, but that was true of the mag swipe as well. I still have to enter my pin, confirm the purchase amount, have it ask for cash back (at stores that do cash back), etc, when doing a debit purchase.

The chip tech is bullshit.

>>61456045
Blah blah blah muh frontend ,consumer brand,luxury bullshit.
Do you even innovate? Build? Hardware? Buisness strategy?

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>>61453169
>USA
>Free Market

>>61457035
What about cellphones

Are you going to argue that cellphones are fucking stupid because GSM encryption was weak?

>>61456647
>the picture

Plus a gorillion amendments basically cancelling everything else out.

Like you not having net neutrality, for instance.

>>61457116
Nice logical fallacy

The point is that switching to the chip system has absolutely no benefit, which I clearly explained. The security measures do not matter, the expediency does not exist, and the cards are now more physically vulnerable with another thing that can break or malfunction.

Just get it into your head that it's a non-issue, a nothingburger. The chip system never needed to be implemented.

>>61457276
Could you explain me the way how money in murrica are stolen from chip card with pin?

Case 1. When nigga steals credit card and he is trying to pay with it on the internet, new cards have 3D secure system which require to type pin or code during internet shopping.

Case 2. Nigga has credit card but he do not know pin so he will not be able to pay with it, it would require to force card owner to tell him pin first but in modern age every ATM and every shop/restaurant has CCTV and it would be fucking stupid to risk prison for a few bucks.

Case 3. Scamming device on the ATM, where it copy card and take a vid of pin.
This happen from time to time but even then its bank problem.

In Case 1 and 2, it would be much easierto steal with magnetic card only.

Back in 90" there were whole underground communities were people were selling credit card info, so other people were using their own cards to burn data and take cash, I do not know if its still as powerful as back then where pin is require everywhere.

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*TELEPORTS FROM THE 80'S*

>>61453160
The 80s were a objectively better time

>>61453160
>No nigs
>No kebab
>No fags
I'd like Europe to be back in the 80s too.

>>61456325
How free a market is is on a spectrum.
Just like gender and your autism.
I wouldn't expect a bigot like you to get that though. >>>/pol/

>>61455730
There is currently no country in the world that is in a declared state of war.

>>61453160
80s tech was better in every way

normies didn't taint tech and only used it for work

people who owned computers were knowledgeable about them

>>61458390
Korea

>>61458316
>no fags
>80s
chart topping songs in europe at the time were literally just singing about homo sex

>>61454359
>On the other hand we have germany, country that has free health care, budget surplus and their physicans make fair money.
It worked because Germany is (not for long, Germany is doomed) mostly white and civilized. Wouldn't work in America, too many uncivilized niggers.

>>61457841
>pin is required everywhere
Nope. Wrong again. But keep on telling me how the commerce system in my own country works.

Twice in five years Ive encountered a card provider system linked to my PIN, and that was available before the chips were forced onto cards. Most online purchases, credit or debit, are treated as if they are debit, and no pin verification is required.

In short, fuck yourself. You know nothing.

>>61458664
I misspoke, they are treated as if they are credit, and no pin auth is required.

>>61458574
>Happy merchants were already busy pushing their agenda back then
Really makes you think

>>61457135
Net neutrality is anti-freedom. Corporations and individuals enter a private agreement she they do business and the government would have to interfere and abridge freedom of one side to implement net neutrality. I can see why a European would want it though, it's perfect for Nazis to use protection of the public as a reason to start grabbing power

>>61453160

I don't know but Cars are at least 8-10 years behind. It's frustrating because Canada have to put up with shitty American cars and American-vertion of good european cars.

>>61458785
what is monopoly

>>61453160
Just wanted to know, how are things with PON and Ethernet coverage in the US?

>>61456223
>hehe look, I am a cool antisemit LOL! XD
wow, edgy

>>61458868
Often times the most efficient form of the market, i.e. the form the market naturally takes. If you want better internet service options move closer to the city. Don't live in the middle of nowhere and complain when relying on a tangible service with a tangible infrastructure that needs to be nearby.

>>61458952
>monopoly is good
true burger logic. Top kike

>>61458835
>8-10 years behind
Fuck off CVTs and hybrids aren't the future

>>61454326
the UK is like, 1/50th the size of the US.
https://alfinnextlevel.wordpress.com/2014/08/14/comparing-nations-nominal-gdp-per-square-kilometre-area/
They can afford to invest in upgraded infrastructure because of GDP/km^2

>>61453160
Pioneer spirit. When Americans were living in cabins with dirt floors Europeans were going through the Victorian era, living in houses that were similar to modern ones, walking down streets lighted by gas and electricity, and attending concerts and plays.

As an anecdote, both of my parents did not have a flushing toilet in their house until the late 70s. I'm 32 years old and from Kentucky.

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>>61455652
yes, let us try the free market again please
just fuck my labor unions up senpai

>>61459385
>billions lost
>stock market recovered completely 5 years later
WTF I hate fiat currency now

>>61459549
>economic recovery during a war
color me surprised

>>61454359
>germany, country that has free health care,
Yeah, mate, we do need insurance, unless we want to pay for everything ourselves. Good thing it's affordable.

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>>61454359
>germany, country that has free health care, budget surplus
And they're spending everything on africans and muslims. I bet that will work our really well for them.

>>61455134
>You walk into a hospital, get stitched up, then walk out in Europe and there is no mention of money at any point.
Except the moment when "You insurance plan does not cover this operation/treatment/drugs"

>>61454839
>>61454880
Would feel so unique living in here
>I'm the only conscious person in a world full of sheep

>>61458664
I am in EU and here all my card, normal debit card pre paid like and credit cards require pin.

If murrica is using technology designed in europe but implements only half of the solution then its not design fault but retards who are responsible for deployment.

>>61454263
I work at a mom and pop pizzeria and 99% of cards we get have a chip and we accept the chip for them.

>>61454326
You might as well be a caveman. In my country you just walk out of the shop with whatever you want and it automatically pays, I assume.

>>61453160
TYeleport yourself back to /b/, fucking frogposter.

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>>61453160
Europe is so advanced because:

(a) Don't have irons / ironing boards in hotels. Because travellers like bringing their own overseas or something stupid. And Europeans always claim to care more about their clothing /appearance.
(b) Will charge you extra if a guest spends the night with you. Nothing like getting yelled at the next morning when you check out because you railed the Eurobabe you met at the bar last night.
(c) Pay extra for automatic transmission at a rental car. I learned on manual so I don't care. But its still cheap / backward as fuck.
(d) Get charged by the bag for trash, so people just litter anyway. Walking around Munich on Octoberfest is a perfect example of law of unintended consequences. No trash cans anywhere so obviously litter and trash is everywhere. Very smart guys. You showed us.
(e) Listen to the radio anywhere in Europe and come back and tell us who's living in what decade.
(f) Internet Cafe's everywhere. Do these even still exist in America?
(g) All my friends in Europe always ask me to buy tech for them because its so fucking expensive and backwards there. Frau Merkel is not amused by all your disposable income Europeans. You're too dumb to know what you want so lets VAT the heck out of everything.
(h) Ice makers don't exist in Europe for some reason. Because we all like drinking warm tap water (that they charge you for PER GLASS) or soda for some reason.
(i) SAP is the only tech company worth a damn to come out of Europe, and even then Salesforce is kicking its ass now anyway.

I could spend all day shitting on how backward Europe is, but its too easy. I pay $70 / month for Xfiniti in suburban Chicago and I get 100MB/s download and 30 MB/s upload all day every day without the government involved.

Pic related: Imagine America trying that shit.

>>61453896
Funny because virtually all credit card crime in the world originates from Europe and Russia. But "muh chip" keeps me safe right?

Property crime in Europe is way, way, way worse than anywhere in America. Live in the UK for any length of time and you will get scammed / robbed and the cops will blame you for it.

>>61461882
You sound like a burger with 1/8 Bavarian and 1/16 Cherokee heritage who stayed in a tourist trap in Munich.

>inb4 I lived there for 10 years

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>>61456240
>Complains Libya was an American intervention, rather than UNSC sanctioned and NATO led
>UNSC sanctioned
>UNSC

Goddamned ONI spooks. First they try to kill Halsey, now they're destabilizing the Middle East.

>>61453896

> Using the plastic jew

>>61457276
Amen Brother.

The Target credit card scam that prompted all these chips, was an INSIDE job. You could have had retina scanners on your card for all the fuck good it would have done. The guy upstairs behind the glass was giving the information to the ROMANIAN thieves anyway.

Most commerce security is Kabuki theater. Chip, pins, etc. etc. don't do shit.

Don't let that nigger touch your card and you will be fine. If someone scams your card, then refuse to pay and call the credit card company. Its their problem, not yours, and the laws protect that right in the USA. Its how they justify the 24% interest rate and usurious service charges for the vendors.

>>61461882
Outside if computers there are plenty of Euro tech companies. Siemens is from Germany and their automation shit is everywhere. The stuff I've worked with is quite good.

>>61461971
Show me on a fucking map a single hotel in continental Europe that has Irons / Ironing boards in their standard rooms.

OR that doesn't charge extra per person per queen bed in a standard room.

Pro Tip: You can't.

>>61461936
What has online fraud got to do with anything (Americans are the main victims of online credit card fraud, by the way, so you've fallen at the first hurdle anyway)
The chip protects you from physical theft as they not only need your card, they also need your PIN which they cannot verify is the real one without walking you to an ATM, where there will be security cameras.

>Live in the UK for any length of time and you will get scammed / robbed and the cops will blame you for it.
I've lived in the UK for 27 years and have never been the victim of a crime, I was in the US for a week and was mugged within a few days. Cops basically just said "eh nothing we can do, too bad".

>>61458952
How deluded can one be?

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>>61462092
Don't forget SAP

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>>61462105
I'm happy you live in a nice leafy part of the UK.

But you are wrong and the stats don't lie though. Its even worse than below, because the bobbo's in the UK don't even report most property crime on statistics to make them look better (ii.e., Break and enter = lost property when the pigs file their report).

If you got mugged, that's technically a violent crime and if you're wandering around Niggerville, USA at 1am in the morning, well, I can't help you there.

But anybody who has lived in UK / Continental Europe for any length of time with some external residency as a counterpoint (i.e., non-Niggerville USA, Australia, Canada, etc.) is absolutely astonished at the relentlessness of the criminal assault in Europe on your property.

And its getting worse.

Just read this. This is not an opinion man.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/ive-worked-refugees-decades-europes-afghan-crime-wave-mind-21506

>>61453896
have one of those things now.
Now every time I buy something it takes 10 times longer.

>>61461882
moar stories plz

>>61453160
That's a false presumption that people just take seriously. In what way is Europe more technologically advanced? What part of Europe and what part of the US? One of the great things about the US if that not everywhere is the same so you can live in a greater variety of ways. If you want to live in an Amish commune, you can; if you want to live on farmland, you can; if you want to live a university life, you can; and if you want to live like Euros where you need permits to retile your bathroom, can't defend yourself against criminals, increasing socialist programs take more and more of your money and government decides that you MUST love dark-skinned people so much that YOU pay for the privilege of them being forced into every crevice of society, you can live in these places too!

>>61462092
OK. I'll admit Siemens makes good tech for durable goods. Also German's make wonderful durable goods, robots, tools, etc. etc.

But non-industrial-engineering-specialized commercial goods, you just can't compare Europe to the USA and then say USA is backwards by comparison.

The world's tech runs on American tech software and inventions. I'd wager the average Stanford graduating class in a year outputs more commercially successful tech patents and ideas than all of Germany, France and Italy.

>>61454964
Many did before sorry idiots like you.

>>61462282
>siemens
>durable
K

>>61462300
Where do you live to not need ac?

>>61462329
Wasnt it Siemens control systems that the Americans hacked and fucked up North Korean uranium enrichment?

>>61462282
>The world's tech runs on American tech software and inventions.

Moore's law, the #1 most important thing in tech, is all down to ASML - a Dutch company.

>>61453160
Name a single, SINGLE, technological brand name that you use daily that comes from somewhere in Europe.

>>61461936
>Funny because virtually all credit card crime in the world originates from Europe and Russia. But "muh chip" keeps me safe right?

The chip does keep us safe.

It's true our problem with, let's face it, Romanians is the reason we can't use magnetic strips.
They rig ATM's with cameras to record your PIN and a reader to copy your magnetic strip.

But since the technology is already there it is very weird to stick to unsafe magnetic strips even if you have fewer Romanians.

>>61462470
Noctua

>>61462470
Sennheiser

>>61462470
Funfactory

>>61462470
I'm an electrician and I put Siemens shit in all the fucking time. Next time you get a chance to look at a building's transformer, panels, disconnects, etc.. check out the brand. Siemens motherfucker.

>>61462594
Well that settles it, Europe is the undisputed leader in technology, according to Cleetus.

>>61458719
>kicked out of every nation they've ever been in, everyone BUT the jews are the problem

>>61462594
Yeah I work with their automation stuff and some of it might not be cutting edge tech, but it's solid and reliable. Bad thing about Siemens is their equipment/parts tend to be more expensive than the competition, and some of the tech isn't exactly new.

>>61462594
>>61462619
By the way: just googled Legrand out of curiosity and -- sure enough -- French.

Make sure you sing the national anthem when you plug your Chinese appliance into your French receptacle fed by a German transformer, faggot.

Oh wait, I forgot about the panel.
>Google Eaton
>Headquartered in Ireland

Even a mick does it better, faggot.

>>61458974
>>61462138
>Ignoring the whole post

>>61462671
There's an entire world of technology in the industrial sector that doesn't even cross the minds of average consumer whores.

What's the point in focusing on brands though when everything is made in china?

>>61453160
Fuck off commie poster

>>61462619
>>61462747

However, you might have Square D breakers in your home.
>m-muh square d. muh americun company

Square D is owned by Schneider Electric.
French.

Your power is about 75% french.

How can the US of A ever recover?

These European socialist values they have been spreading around will be the death of America
https://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA
We were warned.

>>61462747
>Eaton
They are in Ireland so they don't have to pay taxes

>>61462810
Fortunately, Europe has taken a page from America and is now importing millions of feral niggers. I'll give it one generation before societal collapse.

>>61462757
I don't live in the "middle of nowhere" and there are two (2) options if you're not considering shitty WISPs:
1) Cable: Spectrum/TWC
2) DSL: AT&T
...and DSL is ass, so practically speaking no competition if you want a higher speed.
The situation is similar in other places, too, the names of the companies just change, Mediacom, Comcast, etc.
What was that you were saying about monopolies being good?

>>61462877
The obvious solution would be to go back to a law made in 1934 that created the telephone monopoly.

>>61462877
>WISP
They are a lifeline to those that don't have one of the big three. These are the companies that will suffer the most from NN. The big three will only solidify their market position with no competition.

>>61462877
No unlimited 4G?

That's what we use at the office because the cable is hijacked by a different company and the telephone lines are too old/crap for more than 10Mbit ADSL.

>>61462877
Really? Then where do you live?

>>61463048
Yeah, that's an option, too, but latency won't be good and speed won't be all that consistent.

>>61462952
Yeah, WISP market will be severely fucked.

>>61463066
KC area, but I've been to other places and it's a similar story. Of course, it's not a big city by any means, but it's again not the "middle of nowhere".

>>61458952

I live 4km from nearest neighbor, I have had 1Gb FTTH since 2013. I also have had 50Mbps LTE for years (actual speedtest speed). Credit card fraud is practly nonexistent because of chip cards and better banking laws.

Internet is cheaper and better than my cousin's shitty Comcast connection in Fort Lauderdale FL. That free market thing is bullshit, it just mean free to screw over individuals.

I also live in Canada. I don't get amerifat complaining that we have slightly higher taxes up here, at the end of the day, everything is way cheaper and the standards of living are way higher.
I laugh every-times I hear west coast hipies talk about WholeFoods. Our normal cheapo grocery chains have better food, more choice, fresher for cheaper.

>>61463181
>midwest
>It's not the middle of nowhere!
>it's not!
Okay

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>>61453160
>posted from American designed smartphone/computer
>with American made OS (Linux is based in the US, you faggots)
>on American made website
>that uses American made web languages

Europeans are just sad at this point. Their continent is a Muslim shithole. There are over 50 million Muslims in Europe. That more than in the Americas and Australia combined.

The chip card thing is a meme. We've had it in Canada for almost 10 years now, and they still flake out from time to time, and there are places that still don't have them (shitty places).

OP is a fag.

>>61462594
Or PLCs... Even in US factories you'll find it over their own brands.

>>61463226
>posted from American designed smartphone/computer

*more likely Asian, communicating via Swedish technology and protocols.

>with American made OS
Yes, but a poor one

>on American made website
Asian made and Asian owned

>American made web languages
European made

>>61463308
Imagine having an inferiority complex so strong you feel the need to correct a shitpost.

You know this guy isn't getting laid.

You're also just wrong about weblang.

https://www.w3.org/community/webed/wiki/A_Short_History_of_JavaScript

Europe is so old and worn out, just like a German girl's pussy after Ramadan.

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>>61454910

>>61454880
jesus, there are minecraft worlds with better infrastructure

>>61463382
>People will continue on combating genetic medical issues, thus creating more problems as these issues are passed down generation by generation
>Modern society incentivise people to be lazy and poor
>poor and lazy people outbreed the wealthy and healthy
>This isn't bad enough so people want to import browns and pay for their 8 kids
What a terrible world the future will be. Mass surveillance, freedom™ and everybody on pills from birth because of 20 generations of increasing predispositions to a plethora of illnesses. Intelligence will most certainly start declining. People will continue striving for increased populations yet lambast those who don't recycle for destroying the planet. What a terrible future.

At least loli sexbot will be a thing, assuming they aren't banned.

>>61456090
It's not contactless scanner, it's use of credit cards period. Customers never pay it, it's always the business. It's usually (($0.50/transaction under $5) or (2.5% of transaction amount if above)), this is what I had to pay to get payments from any credit card, be it magstripe or otherwise. If I had over 1,000 transactions a month, the rate was reduced to 2.25%. It wasn't awful, but I did have to pay.
I somehow doubt that payment with credit card somewhere else has no expense to the business. Since someone has to handle the transactions, the only way it would be free* is if the government payed for it. If such is the case, then you're paying via taxes anyways.

>>61458902
found the jew

>>61463219
k, citynigger, show me how many options you have for internet, again, disregarding WISPs.
What do you suggest, that everyone moves to the coasts to already overcrowded cities? How far will you go to defend corporations fucking you in the ass?
Ultimately, a point everyone fails to address that's screaming about "muh free market" is if every ISP decides to abuse the removal of NN, in which case competition won't be helpful.

>>61454359
Fahrenheit
>0 is cold, 100 is hot
Celsius
>0 is cold, 100 is deadly
Eurocucks will defend this

Obsessed. Go back to the reddit.

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>>61464960

>>61453160
am I in /g/?

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>>61464960
(You)
>>61465264
Nope, welcome to /v/, friendo.

>>61456051
>Complains Syrian civil war was started by Americans, rather than Assad shooting his own people

I can understand that you know shit about any other countries due to your 1st world living or ignorance but if you are not aware what your gov is doing then its quit weird

>President Trump has decided to end the CIA’s covert program to arm and train moderate Syrian rebels battling the government of Bashar al-Assad, a move long sought by Russia, according to U.S. officials.

>The program was a central plank of a policy begun by the Obama administration in 2013 to put pressure on Assad to step aside, but even its backers have questioned its efficacy since Russia deployed forces in Syria two years later.

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>>61458369
>gender spectrum

>>61464960
Celcius
>0 its when water freezes, 100 is when it boils

Quite obvious

>>61453961
>But hey - at least poor people still die on the street

I wish that were true but unfortunately it's not. Instead they are kept on life support indefinitely so they drain even more resources.

>>61454731
Please tell me that image is legitimate

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>>61453896
Fucking 75+% of people use this stupid bullshit in burgerland, I just don't understand it. How retarded do you have to be do willingly use one of those?
t. small business owner

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>>61454641
>needing a car is ridiculous
Top fucking zozzle

>>61454359
>muh jews
>>>/pol/

>>61464960
They will retort that "It's more scientific to be easily divisible by 10!" or some shit even though Kelvin has Celsius beat in that regard.

>>61454596
It's free until you get to the point where the government death panel decides it's not efficient to spend more money on you like with Charlie Grad.

>>61465556
See
>>61465414

>>61465556
>They will retort that "It's more scientific to be easily divisible by 10!" or some shit even though Kelvin has Celsius beat in that regard.


its getting better with every post

Why the fuck would use scale where it start at -273.15 celcius

I would understand this if you were living somewhere on ship in galaxy far from any start where avg temp is 2.72K, but using Kelvins for temperature on earth?

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>>61465556
>They will retort that "It's more scientific to be easily divisible by 10!" or some shit even though Kelvin has Celsius beat in that regard.

see

>>61465414

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>>61462348
Iranian. Also the equipment was running Windows, so perhaps it was just a backdoor

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HAHAHAHHAHAH

meanwhile europoors have to pay VAT and import taxes which makes their products much more expensive

so much for being technologically advanced, go fuck yourself you insecure cuckold

>>61465661

Stuxnet. And all that shit (the centrifuges) were air gapped so the malware had to be physically implanted. Probably by a double agent. Some real life spy shit.

>>61465697
whats the difference between vat and usa tax?

In Quebec many bars and some restaurants put an ATM that charge $6 in fees instead of accepting cards.

>>61453160
>Europoors are moving closer to a world where they can't say meany-meany words on the net without going to prison
>Impaired Burgerbros

>>61454641
>B-b-but you need CARS
And cars are superior for anything except high density cities, which are shit everywhere for way more reasons than transportation.
Seriously I will never understand these lmaonocars types