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>4 glued-together desktop dies Sick burn, how will AyyMD

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>4 glued-together desktop dies

Sick burn, how will AyyMD ever recover?
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>>61331159
markerters should be castrated
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>>61331174
These points still stand valid though
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>>61331159
>>61331203
couldn't AMD just sue intel for libel?
The chips aren't technically glued together with an adhesive like those slides imply.
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This is an actual, real Intel marketing slide.
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>>61331221
are you saying that AMD's average customer is so retarded that they would take such a bullshit statement seriously to a damaging extent that would be taken seriously in court and justify spending millions of dollars on?
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>desktop dies

So xeon isn't skylake-x?
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and this marketing will work. AMD could learn a thing or two on marketing
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>>61331203
>repurposed desktop product
>glued-together desktop die
>opteron never existed, goy
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>>61331324
People who buy server hardware are usually not impressionable /v/tards who buy into marketing that looks like it was written by a teenage shitposter.
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This is an actual, real Intel marketing slide.
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>>61331365
>Xeon slides
>link about day0 gaymen benchmarks
H1Btel doing gods job at marketing.
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>>61331203
They quite literally don't, since desktop Ryzen is quite literally a repurposed server architecture. EPYC was the real focus all along.
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>>61331365
AMD has no gaems
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>>61331324
Work on who, exactly? Dumb gaymers who eat shit like this up, but have no chance of ever owning one of these things? Companies like Microsoft and Samsung are already on board. A few Intel marketing slides aren't going to change minds.
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>>61331159
>>61331203
>>61331281
>>61331365
You know they know that they're fucked when their slides intended for investors and industry partners look like Pepsi ads.
>Coke is so lame
>only uncool people drink Coke
>p-please buy Pepsi, it's totally hip, I swear
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>>61331159
>multiple dies is bad
>it wasn't bad when we did it with Pentium D though
>just because our implementation sucked means it'll be shit
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>>61331281
>wcctech
>on multi billion corporation slide

haha, somebody going to buy them out for millions now
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>>61331281
>WCCFtrash
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https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/

Here's the rest of them. Most of them are relatively normal (by Intel standards).
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>>61331159
>single die

That's the fucking problem nigger. Enjoy your 1% yields and excessive nerf'ed binning to salvage the rest....
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>>61331159
> What is dual-socket?
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>>61331281
>Software and programs used in (((testing))) have only been optimized for Intel™©®π¶ processors
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$INTC isn't even up 1%, even Intel shareholders aren't buying this joke
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>>61331159
>we have a single die!
>but plz buy 8 sockets worth!
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>>61331281

this is even more pathetic than the average butthurt /r/impeachtrump post on reddit KEK

Intel has gone one step above JUST
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>>61331365
>gaming performance is shit
>server cpu

huehuehuehuehuehuehuehue
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>>61331464
>look like Pepsi ads

Hey now intel still has a way to slide before that happens. Hopefully Zen 2 makes them hit that level.
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>>61331365
DELET THIS
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>>61331159
>>61331203
They sure like to stress the fact that it's a desktop CPU even though it was clearly designed as a server CPU.
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post more slides
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Doesn't ryzen have lower core to core latency than Intel's bingbuss?

At least on high core count Intel chips.
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>>61332413
god damn it I still have the pdf of the pepsi advertising fuckery
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>>61331159
Holy shit, (((they))) look so desperate. AMD should sue for libel.
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>>61333093
I agree
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>>61331314
you sue because you can make money out of it.
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Somebody filling this in yet?
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>>61331365
>server
>pull out a gaymen quote
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>>61331314
>>61331221
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So you were saying AMD marketing was terrible?
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>>61331159

AHAHAHAHA
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This is almost unbelievable to see happen from Intel. Holy shit they are getting wrecked so hard they don't even know what they're doing anymore. Doing borderline 4chan macro tier marketing slides and quoting gaming shit from random websites for server CPUs. They deserve everything that's happening to them.
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>>61333159
Am I seeing this right? AMD has 60-100% better perf per watt in raytracing workloads?
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>>61333211
Yes.

AMD and Intel are toe to toe on integer, but AMD wrecks Intel's shit on FPU.

Also, Xeons turn into housefire when performing floating point workloads.
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>>61333211
it's annudah shoah
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>>61333159
I implore you to delete this antisemitic drivel.
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How long will it be until intel shareholders start shopping around for a new executive?
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>>61331159
>>61331203
>>61331281
>>61331365
These are fake and photo shop no way Intel would use such shit slides

>Muh games in server slide, muh currytech.

Intel is shitting themselves,but that doesn't mean their slide would be low quality.
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>>61333234
It's too late for damage control, Schlomi. Those are 100% real.
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>>61331203
top kek, Intel are fucking desperate.
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>>61333229
Frankly I'm surprised they haven't done so already.
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>>61331966
>Check out slides
>They were made to present the """""new""""" Xeon family to investors
>Almost 50% of them are slides attacking Epyc instead of showcasing their product and it's features
So this is it, uh? They really don't have anything to compete with Epyc, do they?
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>>61333245
It took them 6 months to hire Mr. Fuck-my-shit-up. At this rate it will take another year.
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>>61331159
I'm waiting how are they going to justify dem 2% yields with such a big die.
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>>61333268
>such a big die
for you
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>>61333240
I am not jewtel, I just cannot fathom Intel with their billions would pay for such shit marketing slides.

>Look at these ryzen gaming reviews dude but our servers

This is beyond pathetic.
>Jew everyone make billions
>Some can compete with you
>Have 6 month to get you shut together for their server market

This is all Intel could come up with gaming reviews....
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>>61333223
This is a holocaust.
Cant wait to see Raven Ridge moping the floor with mobile Intel UVL processors at the same voltage.
That will be a butchery. And I want to see it.
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>>61331159
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>>61333323
D...delid this?..
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>>61333323
why remove the RFID? why go back on that intel?
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>>61333330
Cant, them sumbitches are soldered.
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>>61333323
hilarioulsy c2q were better than "true" quad core phenoms
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>>61333481
If i wasn't about to go the fuck to sleep (nearly 5AM here), I would pit my Phenom II 920 and Q8200 (both at 2.8ghz w/ 800mhz DDR2) against each other just for kicks.
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>>61333543
To further expand, if i were to do that, I wholly expect the Phenom II to win (IMC, big fat slab of L3 cache, unified die).
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What would happen if the next dies for newer EPYCs are over 300mm^2
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>>61333240
Not that anon, but these slides look so retarded I can hardly believe they come from a billion dollar company
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>>61333589
q9xxx beat phenom 2 because phemon 2 cache is shit in compariosn
also phemons lack ssse3 and sse 4.1 instructions and it shows when you try stuff liike HEVC now
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>>61333714
Shoah we've never seen before.
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>>61333732
Intel has been going full retard for the last few months so go figure
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>>61331203
>lack of ecosystem
>literally 80% of the server market as Day1 partners
L
U
L

>Inconsistent supplier
>"AMD FABS THEIR OWN CHIPS, WE SWEAR!"

>Inconsistent performance
>Yet still higher than anything Intel can get with their Xeons


MUH, MUH BATTLE TESTED!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!111!111!!111


Intel are really grasping at straws.
I'm just waiting until these "statements" reach the point of Slander, then AMD just sues them
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>>61333761
Anon Intel literally resorted to /g/- shitposting.
What's next, frogposting?
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>>61333770
You want frogs? I have frogs!
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>>61333750
Yeah I know that Q9xxx beats Phenom II. However, Q*8*xxx should lose to Phenom II because of the small L2 cache size (2x2MB), which further increases contention on the FSB getting shit between the two dies and the main memory. And this particular specimen has one of the dies shit itself after 400mhz FSB no matter what settings I use.
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>>61333770
Memes are the only way they can keep the sheep in the gaming market once Zen2 hits.
7nm leap, improved silicone, more features, higher IPC. And Intel will have no answer for it because their 10nm node is complete shit.
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Discuss;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B65uPAFGse8
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>>61333074
They do, but latencies within the CCX it's faster than either, so Intel isn't technically wrong calling it inconsistent despite theirs being slower all around
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>>61333543
>>61333481
>>61333589
>>61333750
>>61333790
Both sucked desu.
I had a C2Q, friend had a Phenom XII. They were both truly fucking awful for any single threaded load, so basically 99.9999% of the things. FML
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>>61333872
And with software optimisation then cores need never pull from another CCX.
That's a level of optimisation expected within server software.
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>>61333790
It's kinda funny that used Q8xxx are now more expensive than salvaged 54xx Xeons with 2x6MB.
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>>61331159

>https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/

that's some AAA grade FUD right there
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>>61333297
Finally an NUC that can run games.
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>>61331159
>>61331203
>>61331281
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>>61331281
Server cpu.... Mobilemark? Sysmark? WCCFTECH?!

Intel wtf r u doin
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Kek. Not a big fan of AMD, but this is pathetic and desperate.
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>>61331159
What if Ryzen is actually a server-tier die re-purposed for desktop?
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This is pathetic. It's like a parody.
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>>61331159
Are Intel going to get sued over this?
The arrows don't correctly display how the interconnector works. It's actually core-to-core from one die to another so it's never more than 2 hops but their illustration makes it look like it could take 3.

>>61331221
>>61332498
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>>61334357
Technically there are only inaccuracies in their statements, nothing to declare legal war over, or if AMD did, it would be a loose claim at best.

If Intel carry on down this path though, they WILL end up saying something that gets them into trouble.
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>>61333223
>AMD wrecks Intel's shit on FPU.
I'm going to run so much javascript
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>>61331159
>>61331203
>>61331281
>>61331365
>some anon from /g/ actually made it to intel and stopped being neet
>he is actually in charge of intel PR
>he is actually using /g/ memes like "4 desktop dies glued together" as an advertisement
>linking to wcctech
>full damage control all over the slides

It's like watching a thread where some intel shills try to damage control but still fails
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>>61333149
This image is fake right?
Please tell me NBC didn't make that
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>>61334357
Saying (>>61334372) though, AMD may get somewhere based on Intel's Inaccurate Representation of competitor's performance here (>>61331281) and may be able to push that to Slander.
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This thread made me want to buy an 7500 instead of a ryzen. Thanks OP, not going to tall for the ampoor
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>>61331281
>estimated
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>>61334327
It is.

From the start, I believe as early as 2013, you can find leaks about AMD working on a 32 core Zen MCM architecture.

The 8 core desktop CPUs are re-purposed server architecture, not the other way around.
That's why they have ECC support. That's why they're so good at hashing and other common server functions. That's why they're so absurdly perf/watt efficient. And yet despite all that, their gaming performance is also very good as well.

>>61334372
>>61334392
AMD is generally pretty quick to sue and generally seems to win, from what I've seen.
They're suing many mobile chip makers currently for infringing on their unified shader patents.
Don't know about suing over libel, though. These slides do look like libel. I think they could argue that anyone reasonably educated on semiconductor and computer science would would know these are FUD and that they instead intended to manipulated less savvy tech journalists to spin a false narrative.
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>>61334193
> SPECint
Isn't it compiled with Intel compiler which does not use latest SSE for AMD?
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>>61334409
t. Brian JUSTnich
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>>61333223
>Also, Xeons turn into housefire when performing floating point workloads.
Thats what things like GPUs and Xeon Phis are for.
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>>61334427
Patent infringements are usually black and white of "this is ours, theirs matches ours, what the shit nigga", so it's often a fairly quick and simple process with cash payoffs and licensing fees from there on out.
Something like this is purely down to interpretation of what Intel may be attempting to say.
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>>61334433
SPECint is based on GCC
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>>61334456
Okay, sorry.
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>>61334427
>The 8 core desktop CPUs are re-purposed server architecture, not the other way around.
>That's why they have ECC support.
You can find Intel Pentiums like the G4400 and Atom chips have ECC support. That has nothing to do with it being a server chip being repurposed for a tablet or ultra low end PC

>That's why they're so good at hashing
Pentiums and Atoms also have encryption functions, again not a "server" feature.
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>>61334474
Atoms = xeon phi
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>>61331159
It's a shame really, like a leap year cycle: AMD won't release another good product for another 4 years; and will flip back to GPU.

Prediction: vega and it's successor suck; next one (2020 - 2021) is good, by which time their CPUs will suck again.
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>>61334479
>Atoms = xeon phi
Xeon Phis are reengineered Atoms, they have things like AVX-512 which Atoms do not.
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>>61331335
>repurposed
reused
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>>61334526
>AVX-512

based intel how can amd compete
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>>61334507
>AMD won't release another good product for another 4 years; and will flip back to GPU.
Oh no, not with current management.
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>>61334507
>AMD won't release another good product for another 4 years
lolno, the zen platform is a rough diamond waiting to be polished. Zen 2 will be a huge improvement over the first gen, like the 2nd gen Core was to the first.
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>>61334535
>Oh no, not with current management
Maybe that's what changes.

>>61334564
Seriously though.

>2004-2006 good CPU
>2009-2011 good GPU
>2016-2018 good CPU
...
>2021 Zen/Zen2 EOL
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>>61334564
> Zen 2 will be a huge improvement over the first gen
Now, now, don't hype it up, please. It will be an improvement like Piledriver over Bulldozer, but not "huge". I doubt they'll hit even 30% IPC improvement with gen2.
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>>61334389
at least its more accurate than Trumps BS
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>>61334589
Zen2 is hitting on a new process node, so significant improvements are likely.
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>>61334388
Now you know where the narrative comes from. They are paid and intel is giving them the script to shitpost
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>>61331159
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>>61331159

Seriously, did Intel fire its entire marketing department and hire a bunch of orangutans in its place?
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>>61335460
Diversity hires.
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>>61331365
Better safe than sorry, I'm buying my new xeon platinum for gaming so I know it's good
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>>61331203

Not really, Intel's marketing is currently stuck in 1990s. It is painfully obvious.

AMD have already proven themselves to a viable and reliable option for HPC/enterprise market back during Opteron era.

Intel echo chamber is beco,ing pathetic. They just need to admit that made a misstep on relying too much on fab tech to overcome the difficulties in making massive monolith dies.

This misstep isn't nearly as bad as Tejas or Itanium
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Wait, these are real marketing slides?
Fucking hell, I thought it was someone from here who made these.
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>>61333088
pls link
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>>61336895
They're real. >>61331966
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>>61333088
https://jimedwardsnrx.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/pepsi_gravitational_field.pdf
is this the one?
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what the actual fuck
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>>61336895
No, they're real. It seems that intel just copied /g/ shitposts and made them official marketing. We intel now!
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>>61336934

yes

its amazing
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>>61337193
somebody got paid for this
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>>61331324
AMD should use the "moar bingbus" meme in the slides of Threadripper release, Intel would be butthurt as fuck.
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>>61333093
they'd have to stop laughing first
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>>61334531
With GPUs.
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>introducing Intel™ Xeon™ SCALABLE™ Processors™
>shits on AMD for having a much more scalable design
Good job, Intel.
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>>61334589
30% would be massive you idiot, basically a leap to a new uarch
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>>61331365
>Decades of investment in software (Intel only) optimizations.

kek
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>>61331281
I would be surprised if the guy that made those slides browsed /g/
You can smell the frustration and from here.
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>>61333761
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>>61338663
$13000
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ITT
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>>61331159
>that absolute maximum damage control from jewtel
wew, its the likes of which has never been seen before.
thats fucking desperate, to present that in embargoed slides
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>>61334061
Well, i got this particular specimen as part of a rather nice combo when the local computer shop went out of business (P5Q Pro Turbo, Q8200, 4GB DDR2-800 + 1GB DDR2-800, and a shitty barely adequate heatsink) as it was in their freebie bin.
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Jesus christ this is even more fun to shitpost about than 1.7
Intel is gonna try woodscrewing us guys
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>>61331159
>P-Pls buy intel, AYYYYMD is finished, trust me!!

JEWTEL IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT

JEWTELFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH

HOW CAN JEWTEL FAGS EVER RECOVER?
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>>61333243
>eve online
>game
its fun bc it satisfies my rampant excelsheet autism, but you cant call that shit a game
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>>61331159
I thought that this was some OP being really dedicated to trolling, but these slides are on some tech news sites if you reverse image search them.
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/intel_resorts_to_dirty_marketing_during_their_skylake_sp_xeon_launch/1

This one was posted 24 hours ago allegedly.
https://www.golem.de/news/xeon-skylake-sp-das-koennen-intels-28-kern-cpus-mit-avx-512-1707-128826-5.html

Either Intel hired some faggot off of /v/ for their PR, or this is a really dedicated troll. I'm leaning towards the first one seeing how things have been going.

>>61334389
No, its real.
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/785299709342654465
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>>61339071
I would laugh my ass off, if he slapped crying wojak there.
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>>61331159
TPU's response to this is nice:

https://www.techpowerup.com/235092/intel-says-amd-epyc-processors-glued-together-in-official-slide-deck
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D A M A G E C O N T R O L
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>>61331203
I'm I the only one of who thinks gluing cpu's together is actually pretty cool?

Like printed solar cells.
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That... That can't be true right ?
I mean, this is made by a 12 yo fanboy. Intel has nothing to do with those slides ? There is no way a compagny would pay for such marketing. Right ?
There is no way intel would think that this can convince investors. R-right ?
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>>61343413
Full slides are here. >>61331966
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>>61343402
You aren't
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>>61335026
It's not accurate, it's called pedantic, as in needlessly literal.
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>>61331281
>WCCFtech

I am laughing so hard my face is beet red.

How the fuck has Intel fallen so low after so long at the top?
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>>61331159
I know they were trying to downplay AMD, but gluing any amount of dies sounds great.
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>>61344817
Yeah, I don't get it, Intel glues dies all the time.
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>>61331159
>AMD 80% yields
Who cares about yields goy, buy our Xeons so we can get our margins.
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>>61334389
this was a fun discovery
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>>61334589
If they manage to make a Piledriver-like level of improvement it will be already enough. Piledriver was a pretty nice improvement over Bulldozer, it's just that Bulldozer was trash.
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https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/54/

That slide seems like its lawsuit bait. Isn't the entire package a single NUMA domain? I cannot imagine that AMD have a single chip behaving like 4.
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>>61345405
There's some other NUMA NUMA crap in there with Intel, too.

>AMD's numa sucks
>Our numa is teh best

It's opposite day over there.
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>>61344563
Explain this WCCCCCCftech meme to me. Is it some sort of pajeet blog sponsored by Intel? I don't see anything wrong with it but it's the first time I ever hear of it.
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>>61345475
Lurk more.
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>>61345439
exactly
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>>61345475
WCCFtech = Rumor-mongering, zero research tech blog shithole with a comment section that rivals /g/ for retardation, idiocy and perma-trolls that shit up literally every article.
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>>61333732
This is what happens when you lay off tens of thousands of competent employees for H1Bs
>Muh Diversity
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>>61345816
WCCFtech is worst in shitposting than /pol/ or reddit.
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>>61331966
How does intel expect people to take them seriously after this?
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>>61331159
I know you like your theory a lot but let me ask you a single question:
Is your price per performance actually lower than AMDs?
Specially when talking about just running a shitton of separate threads, as it's the case with virtualization and web services?
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>>61346209
If it were, we wouldn't be seeing desperation mode out of them. http://www.anandtech.com/show/11544/intel-skylake-ep-vs-amd-epyc-7000-cpu-battle-of-the-decade
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>>61346495
This is painful to watch.
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>>61333223
Source that amd has better fpu than Intel?
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Intel going on about "glued together dies" is reminiscent of a small child that yells "That's cheating!" after they find themselves losing in a game to a fair and valid strategy.
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>>61334507
That pattern isn't reliable though. People used to say: Win98se, good, WinME, bad, WinXP good, Vista, bad, Win7, good, Win8, bad, and look where we're at now.
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>>61346648
It look like AMD put all their eggs in one basket three years ago, and lucky for them, their bet paid off.
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>>61346857
Some times chip companies bet on dumb shit and end getting their shit thrashed.
Bulldozer was the AMD Pentium 4 pretty much.
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>>61336844
The problem though, is they have no answer until the new architecture in 2020. None.

So great, they admit they made a mistake jerking off with all the money they made monopolizing the market. But that doesn't help them now when it's painfully obvious in every sector of the market they are out gunned by AMD silicon in not just one or two areas, but in nearly every metric that you can measure a CPU by.

They have 4 years barring any significant setbacks to try and stem the bleeding. These Gen 1 zens are just proof of concept. It's only going to get faster, and more power efficient as they refine the chip and jump nodes. They could theoretically ride Zen all the way to 5nm with EUV on it's fifth and final year while Intel is still dicking around with 7nm on their new architecture.

Intel has nothing in the tank to respond with.
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>4 glued-together desktop dies
>Sick burn, how will AyyMD ever recover?

Still more performant than ringbus.
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>>61345439
Intel knows their numa numa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmtzQCSh6xk
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>>61331281
Fixed so when can always laugh.
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>>61347251
They need a Jobs treatment. The guy literally organized Apple again killing all their bullshit.
They could start to killing their diversification and offer no more than four o five products in any range.
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>>61347421
Love that shit. It's so fucking old now.
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>>61347421
>this video is not available in your country
Kek.
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>>61347421
His mouth moves just like a muppet.
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>>61335460
Hi this is Prakesh with Intel Marketing. Pleas delet this thank you kindly.
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>>61333770
>yfw Intel's next anti-AMD presentation is just a pepe with >AMD on the next slide
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>>61347421
Yo what the fuck?
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>>61345405
>I cannot imagine that AMD have a single chip behaving like 4.
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>>61347983
>7601-2P
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGg
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>>61336934
>https://jimedwardsnrx.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/pepsi_gravitational_field.pdf


haha......did someone at pepsi corporate get into the CIA LSD crates or something....
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>>61343591
Thanks
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>>61331281
>Relative performance
>Y axis without grid or label
>WCCFTECH

What the FUCK. Intel DOES know that the people who buy this for datacenters are not mainstream markets and actually do their research before investing thousands of dollars, right? This is not for normies who buy out every marketing vomit they produce.
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>>61331159
>>61331203
>posting currytech trollnews image
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>>61333268
>Better heat dissipation
>More room for silicon
>LOWER FUCKING PRICE
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>>61348442
Sometimes the companies have some idiot on top that calls all the shots and fall for stuff like "nobody ever got fired for buying an ibm"
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>>61331159
Thank you. This thread has been a rollercoaster of emotions.
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>>61333223
I'd rather stick a 400W AMD system in 1U than a 500W Intel system. Your building only has so much air conditioning in it.
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>>61347534
>>61347924
Use youtube-dl
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>>61349809
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>>61349830
Sorry for your loss.
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Where is the link to these slides?
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>>61350469
intradestering
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>>61347421
>>61347534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE8WzYNRPNU
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>>61331281
What's next?
Cpuboss screenshots?
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>>61331281
>pajeettech
Lmao its Intel /g/entooman
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>>61331159
Meanwhile in realityTM
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>>61331281
W C C F T E C H
C
C
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C
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>>61331159
After looking at the number of people who really do not fully understand the entire architecture and workloads and thinking that AMD Naples is superior because it has more cores, pci lanes etc is surprising.
AMD made a 32 core server by gluing four 8core desktop dies whereas Intel has a single die balanced datacenter specific architecture which offers more perf if you make the entire Rack comparison. It's not the no of cores its the entire Rack which matters.
Intel cores are superior than AMD so a 28 core xeon is equal to ~40 cores if you compare again Ryzen core so this whole 28core vs 32core is a marketing trick. Everyone thinks Intel is expensive but if you go by performance per dollar Intel has a cheaper option at every price point to match Naples without compromising perf/dollar.
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>>61352262
Can someone spoonfeed me?
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>>61352493
Pot calling kettle black
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>>61352493
Intel says AMD doing NUMA is bad-bad and then tells to do NUMA themselves, i.e.
>Pot calling kettle black
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>>61352483
is this some fresh new pasta?
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>>61352512
Yes, Brian is damage controlling.
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>>61352512
No, just new manual for correct™ shilling ® for Intel©®™¥€¿
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>>61352483
> The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.
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>>61352520
>>61352530
BATTLE-TESTED
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>>61331203
>lack of ecosystem
you mean they don't have a compiler that deliberately generates code with worse performance on non-Intel CPUs?
>holistic data center solutions
oh boy
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>>61352502
>>61352508
Thank. That's just pathetic.
>>
We take all competitors seriously, and while AMD is trying to re-enter the server market segment, Intel continues to deliver 20-plus years of uninterrupted data center innovations while maintaining broad ecosystem investments. Our Xeon CPU architecture is proven and battle tested, delivering outstanding performance on a wide range of workloads and specifically designed to maximize data center performance, capabilities, reliability, and manageability. With our next-generation Xeon Scalable processors, we expect to continue offering the highest core and system performance versus AMD. AMD’s approach of stitching together 4 desktop die in a processor is expected to lead to inconsistent performance and other deployment complexities in the data center.
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>>61352564
PROVEN
20 YEARS OF UNINTERRUPTED DATA CENTER INNOVATION
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>>61352483
D A M A G E C O N T R O L
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>>61334219
Project Quantum can become a reality.
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>>61352483
>Just openly lying with no evidence at all to back it up
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>>61352493
intel shits all over the 4 glued meme yet they tell people to optimize their shit treat it as 4 individual parts
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>>61331174
i agree, does anyone has the personal address of these person so we can swat them?
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>>61331314
>are you saying that AMD's average customer is so retarded that they would take such a bullshit statement seriously to a damaging extent
In the professional server industry, yes.
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>>61333770
>Intel will call Raja a 'Poo in Loo' in our lifetime
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Back in 2007, AMD fanboys went on about how Phenom was a "real" quad core and C2Q just two "C2D glued together".


lel.
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>>61354898
Core 2 Quads didn't have magical schmagical Infinity Fabric, though.
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>>61354898
C2Q had no benefits of actually good MCM design like Magny-Cours or EPYC. No moar memory or moar lanes.
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>>61336934
Wtf am I looking at
I mean what is this pdf
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This glue has burned many a jew
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>>61333870
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>>61345475
It's citing the technology equivalent of the National Enquirer.
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>>61355235
Looks like an S
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>>61355235
>dies flipped and flopped in image.
They should probably be rotated so the imc is point outwards.
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>>61355895
It's for "sexy"
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>>61334306
They've always depended on *Mark family to show their CPU IPC improvements. Pretty sure they're part of same group that optimizes for Intel, so this way Intel can always show 10-20% IPC in every one of their new CPU. When reality is barely 1-5%.
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>>61355895
Stands for Shoah
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>>61355895
S-shekel?
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>>61334474
>Atoms also have encryption functions, again not a "server" feature.
Atoms also had a bonus feature where they'd brick whatever device was unfortunate enough to be saddled with one (eg: fuckoff expensive cisco switches)
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>>61356461
And a lot of small businesses file servers. Two in my office now.
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>>61334589
>I doubt they'll hit even 30% IPC improvement with gen2.
inb4 they fuck with the fpus to make 256-bit AVX instructions take a single clock instead of two then claim 50% improvement by cherry-picking the shit out of anything that heavily uses those instructions

it worked for intel all these years, at least
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>>61356542
Why would amd need memex?
They have GPUs.
As in actual GPUs not Larrabee abortion.
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