>spend $1000 on a brand new CPU >it performs worse than

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>>61318343
Shut the fuck up you retarded street shitter. Intel still blows Ryzen out of the water.

>>61318359
shekel deposited, ty for your service.

>>61318359
The 7900X is performing worse than Ryzen there

>>61318343
most games don't use that many cores, how is that hard to understand?

Easy. They boosted L2 Cache and Lowered L3 Cache.

L3 cache dependent programs will shit themselves and L2 dependent will see higher performance.

Fuck you, you bought that chip to do work right? use some L2 favoring programs and your problem will resolve itself.

>>61318491
>Fuck you, you bought that chip to do work right?
No, fuck you, I bought it because I wanted a faster CPU, not a slower one.

If I wanted a slow CPU I would have bought Piledriver.

>>61318491
Except the give it the "EXTREME" branding and market it towards gaymers.

>>61318343
>Why is this non-gaming CPU worse off than a general consumer / gaming CPU

Spastic.

>>61318359

In what universe is that statement true?

>>61318521

You sure did your research before making that purchase : ^ )

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>>61318491
>>61318799
Faggot.

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>>61318799
>spend months shitting on Ryzen for being slower than a 5GHz 7700K in MUH GAYMES
>"Skylake-X isn't meant for gaying you plebs stop comparing it to the 7700K, REEEEEEEEE!"

>>61318799
i9 is gaming tho.

Now that's what i call damage control.
What will happen on Threadripper launch?

>>61318945
>Threadripper

AMD+Kikeripper

>>61318359
why is this incel so mad

Skylake-X is not a gaming architecture

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>>61319002
>IMG_xxxx

Want to take a guess?
>>61319025
Do I really have to post another of these?

>>61319025
Yes, it's the second coming of Presshot.

>>61319054

What the fuck is "mega-tasking"?

>>61318945
I kinda want AMD to pull another Ryzen launch.
>Threadripper turns out to be ok, not mind blowing. Intel's stock fall by a small margin.
>Intel gloats that AMD failed to deliver, their stocks rises slighty.
>A month after release day they unfuck their code and it beast the fuck out of Intel's lineup.
>Intel stocks tank while AMD's double.

>>61319078
No, it's two Zeppelin dies in one package.
It's two Ryzen 7s.
These are already well-polished.

>>61318343

Why would it be prohibited?

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>>61319073
It's when you task so hard your CPU goes nuclear.
>>61319078
Threadripper has already been demonstrated kicking ass at Computex, though. No reason to believe it'll have Ryzen's teething issues. https://youtu.be/NeuamYdfU4w?t=16m

>>61319084
>>61319088
Fine, but what if Threadripper comes out, tears Intel appart and one month later Lisa say "oh shit, this was our 'fucked up' code. Here's the working one." and it allow deeper internal bleeding to the i9?

>>61319154
It doesn't really work like that for CPUs. Unless there's some massive microcode bug. This isn't like GPU drivers.

>>61319154
CPUs are not GPUs.

>>61319078
That's not how stock works you mupet

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https://translate.google.com/translate?tl=en-us&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcgameshardware.de%2FCore-i9-7900X-CPU-266272%2FNews%2FSkylake-X-Spieleleistung-IPC-Stellungnahme-1232703%2F

>Skylake-X: Intel justifies the decreased gaming performance

lol.

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>>61319459
>An improvement, for example through game patches, is not to be expected.

>>61319459
>bingbus is bad
>remov bingbus
>its worse
Intel™.

>>61319571
More like add moar bingbus. A whole mesh of them.

What would be the best way to actually increase the IPC? decreasing the pipeline stage count?

>>61319459
Intel, you've been in this business for over 40 years.
You know it's better to be fucking quiet.

>>61319084
this we know that ryzen chips scales at 97% so we already know how its going to perform

>>61319459
this statement along with their statement about epyc IF is just pure cringe

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>>61319913
it's ~97% for 64 cores though

>>61318359

Yeah, when the intel CPU explodes from overheating, it blows Ryzen out of the water because of the shockwave

>>61320102
You're not funny

>>61318343
>Using video game benchmarks to judge the performance of workstation CPUs

Why is this allowed?

>>61320152
>no ECC
>workstation

>>61320152
>>Using video game benchmarks to judge the performance of workstation CPUs
well they do it on vega fe so i guess its fine

>>61320190
>its fine
It's not.

>>61320152
>Ryzen 7 comes out
>HAHAHAHA Look at how shit it is
>I9 comes out
>IT'S NOT GAYMEN CPU

You have encountered a double edge sword, you died on this hill.

>>61320237
What the fuck are you talking about, I'm an AMD fanboy and dislike Intel, but I hate retards who lack a basic understanding of how CPUs work and only use video games to judge the performance of CPUs even more

>>61319002
>incel
>intel
Like peas in a pod.

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>>61320152
>rendering with non ecc-ram

>>61320283
>>61320187
>falling for the ECC meme

>>61320266
This is skylake CPU, it's exactly the same as i7-6950k but with more cores and more L2 Cache, and less L3 Cashe and higher clock.

What the fuck are you talking about?

>>61320152
see
>>61318887
and
>>61319054

They marketed it as MUH GAYMES, they can go fuck themselves.

>>61320301
AVX-512 and they put so many ring busses on it that it counts as a mesh somehow.

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>300W
>slower than 7700K in gaymen
>$1000
>melts mobo VRM or throttles
>potential to melt power cables
>requires delid
>requires expensive custom loop because even best AIO isn't enough
TOPKEK Jewtel® Combustion Lake™ Xtreme Fire™

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>>61320348
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

>>61318343
Because you pay for it.

I wonder how AVX-512 performs in x264 with lower clocks due to muh TDP.

>>61318359
Imagine being this delusional

What the fuck
https://slickdeals.net/f/10343456-amd-ryzen-7-1700-269-99-newegg-and-amazon?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SlickdealsnetFP+%28Slickdeals+Frontpage%29

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>>61322273

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>>61320593
Update your shit nigga.

>>61318343
I'm not about to let intel pass this off, but maybe use something other than gaymes to make your point?

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>>61322333
How to ruin performance with cache changes in one easy step.

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>>61322365
Whoops, lost to a 1600X. How much does that cost again? $230 on sale?

>>61318343
>buying 10 core cpu's for gaming
Your own stupid fault, and also proof you shouldn't buy into the moar cores meme of AMD

>>61318343
all the raw power that can't be used because of thermal throttling

>>61322398
You're like the nth idiot in here to ignore Intel's own marketing bullshit for this CPU.
>>61318887
>>61319054

>>61318343
Corelets when will they ever learn

>>61322434
Intels own marketing is bad, but don't pretend AMD doesn't market 8 core cpu's as gaming cpu's aswell

>>61322480
At least they don't cost $600-$1000 for the CPU alone.

And they can still do what Intel is bragging about in their marketing slides.

(Also the 1700 is more than capable of doing this as well, which is on sale right now for like $270, goddamn)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL2TAJvfiQU

>>61322587
>And they can still do what Intel is bragging about in their marketing slides.

No they don't, they are NOT gaming cpu's.
And higher clocked 6700ks + 7700ks will trash them in the majority of games except for a few fringe cases.

Now gaming + streaming that's a different story.

But to market 8 core cpu's as 'gaming cpu's' is only slightly less retarded than 10 core cpu's as gaming cpu's

>>61322833
>And higher clocked 6700ks + 7700ks will trash them in the majority of games except for a few fringe cases.

Good goy

>>61322852
>le evil merchant boogyman

Really all that delusional AMDrones have to say

>>61322833
I fucking linked a video with what I was talking about you stupid fuck. Go ahead and try streaming/gaming on a 4 core i7 at the same time.

>>61322952
Who the fuck cares about streaming + gaming you autistuc inbred.

That's maybe 0,01% of all people that game, and I already said that's a different story and Ryzen cpu's are better than I7s in that case.

That DOES NOT make them better gaming cpu's you absolute fucking troglodyte.

Stop shifting the fucking goalpost
>it's not a gaming cpu
>b-but it's better if I add streaming to it

>>61323155
Fuck off, turboautist. Try reading the thread before you open your fat mouth.

>>61323155
>It's not a gaming CPU because in 3 year old games it's 10% slower

>>61323177
>try reading the thread
The thread subject is GAMING you fucking mongoloid, look at op's post
>>61323187
Dank memes m8

>>61323223
>>>/v/

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>>61323155
i will just leave this here

>>61323282
>one game
Cool more cherrypicks please

But please,spend 500 bucks on an 8 core cpu for gaming that performs better only in a few fringe cases, do it

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>>61318343
>$300
i got the 6700k for $200 last year
dont really see any worth while upgrades for it till 2027 the way things are going

>>61323316
I don't know man, I don't have the time to post all the benchmarks but in everyone of them the frametimes were lower than Stutter-lake.
If you want to buy Intel then go ahead.

>>61323282
what's better?

>>61323343
you don't have time to post all your cherrypicked benchmarks?

What a shame

>>61323316
Please spend $1000 on a 10 core CPU for gaming so your house can burn down.

>>61323379
If you arrived at that conlcusion from my post your deductive skills are pretty low

I own an I7 which should have been Obvious you idiot

>>61323391
An i7-7900X?
Whoops, read that from the bios instead of the box.

>>61323344
the one with the more consistent line. Indicating smoother performance and lower hitches/jittering/stuttering. Frametimes are better indicator than average FPS for gaming because they are not affected by the statistical outliers and you can perceive the stuttering much easier than just a low framerate.

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>>61318343
>amd fags though multithreaded gayming would ever be a thing
>b-but muh ashus of singuhlarity

Get rekt fags, fast quadcores will rule forever

>>61323494
lmao you're the same quadcore cuck that was going on about your i7-7700K beating an 1800X. Kill yourself, faggot.

https://rbt.asia/g/thread/61042058/#q61043056

>>61323494
The 6900K/6950X games better than this shit. Intel just fucked up when they changed the cache/memory latencies.

>>61323622
Well fuck, you got me.

>>61323155
They're better because they don't stutter.

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>>61323642
>using the same reaction image in both shitposts

>>61323848
kek.

>>61323420
No an i7, idiot

>>61323841
>they're better because 'insert random meme'
Every AMD post ever

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>>61323848
10/10

>>61324278
Some krauts had that show on the bios of their X299 board.

>>61318343
>gayemen benchmark
>>>/v/

>>61322386
How is it that the 1600x does better than the 1700? Suggests single thread performance is more important, no?

>>61319054
>two three or four graphics cards
lower
>four discrete GFX cards
intel getting desperate, no time to proof read.

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>>61323848

>>61322294
Upgrade your shit nigga.
>nobody needs more then 4 cores
>NEW 10 core CPU Extreme©®™

>>61320187
My workstation as my place of employment has no ECC.

It's not nearly as universally required as you seem to think it is.

If moar corez means less stuttering then why are the frametimes for FX CPU's so bad? In every retest the FX 8350 has the same or worse frametimes than the 2500K, it stutters worse than the G4560 in some games. And yeah I know Bulldozer has "modules and doesn't behave like a real 8 core, but it should still act like a 4 core at least but it's not in a lot of games.

>>61326476
Bulldozer was just a disaster from the ground up.

>>61326476
>If moar corez means less stuttering then why are the frametimes for FX CPU's so bad?
Because it was a shit architecture from the word go.

>>61326476
there was only few things the FX8350 was better at than, I believe it was 3770k. I think those were CPU x264 encoding (not a huge margin, but FX was better by several seconds) and compiling or something like that.
other than that >>61326495 summed it up pretty well. Old arch, just smaller node and zero improvements.

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>>61322833
>And higher clocked 6700ks + 7700ks will trash them in the majority of games except for a few fringe cases.
>a few fringe cases

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>>61322833
>>61326590
>A few fringe cases

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>>61322833
>>61326601
>A few fringe cases

>>61326601
wtf is up with those minimals in GTA and w_d2 in 7700k benchmark? anybody cares to explain? Ryzen keeps up higher minimals in every gaym...

>>61326633
those are fakes

>>61326633
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZS2XHcQdqA

>>61320141
Actually he's hilarious!

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>>61318359