/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General

Fuck VR

>Reminder:
Redirect shitposters to the OP. If they do not read it, have not read it, or don't take into account information from it, tell them to, or don't even bother. Shitposting is not what we're here for.

>To-do:
Info on AR for the intro.
PSVR guide and more PSVR info.
More tips and resources for the headset guides.
Better/more info for everything.

VR is a dead meme

>>61288715
Thankfully. VR is great but it was being way too hyped for what it currently is.

how do i GearVR porn

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>>61288712
>nobody likes my forced general!

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>Oculus Rift Bundle + Oculus Controller currently for 450€

whats the price in burgerland currently?

>>61289298
449

>>61288715
VR is just starting, it will be a standard feature on phones in the 2020's

>>61289253
Sexlikereal.com

>>61289290
I care more about supporting the small group on 4chan interested in VR than I do about being relevant or having a thriving thread. Shitposting has no usefulness to this group, especially since I can bump the thread all I want, so it's discouraged.

>>61289382

that's mostly paid porn anon

>>61289527
>>>/t/778713

>>61288715
My cock thinks differently.

fucking SHILLS
fuck VR
we had enough with mech keyboard, china shit and mech mouse, gaming printer threads

I have a rift and use it occasionally. I actually really like echo arena. Rec room in steam is also really fun even though it looks like a kids game.

>>61290000
>fuck VR
No, fuck you, retard. Does it hurt you when other have fun with tech that you for some reason can't tolerate? For example I hate animals but I don't say shit like "fuck anime" because I understand it's something other people enjoy.

>>61290055
Huh, couple typos there but I hope you can make it out.

>>61290049
I almost exclusively play "retro" early 2000s games in VR, loads of fucking fun.

>>61290055
VR will die just like 3d movies
like it or not

>>61290085
It just needs some major price reductions.

>>61290082
Doom in VR is fucking fun as hell.
I'll probably get Bethesda Doom to try it out but the classic is so much fun

>>61290085
>VR will die
Says increasingly nervous retard for the 23rd time this year

The only thing VR needs is Apple to release their headset and it will flip

Why none made a RPG like pokemon go? Wouldn't be a great business plan?

>>61290049
Finally, someone else who plays Echo Arena. This is the game we needed at launch.

>>61290055

>Reminder:
>Redirect shitposters to the OP. If they do not read it, have not read it, or don't take into account information from it, tell them to, or don't even bother. Shitposting is not what we're here for.

Calm down guys. These people will eventually come around whether they like it or not, even if that means sometime 10 years down the line.

>tfw 4chan's probably never going to die

Notice how every time someone calls VR dead or how it's stupid, it's almost always with little regard to punctuation or grammar. Really makes your grey processors fire.

>>61290415
what are you implying?

>>61288675
https://www.amazon.es/Virtoba-Cardboard-V2-virtuales-3-5-6inch-versi%C3%B3n/dp/B01EL3OPYI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1499602818&sr=8-3&keywords=google+cardboard

bought this for my Oneplus 2

How good they will be for the vr porn?

>If you're genuinely curious about VR,
More like you're naive and inexperienced. It's a meme, and it's going to die and be back in 10 years.

>>61290900
I agree.

>>61290869
It will be kind of cool but pixellated low res and blurry. It's gimmicky. Don't expect too much from it.

>>61290218
Because you need hardware to push software like Pokemon GO. PGO is a game that works well only because it worked on everyone's phone. If Pokemon GO had been released on Hololens, people wouldn't go out and spend so much money just to play it.

echo arena is fun but I keep getting put on the worst goddamn teams

someone posted a video of one of those $300 acer headsets
>Acer Mixed Reality Headset Unboxing, Setup and Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgdFcdFG0Z0

>>61288675
I just got my Vive yesterday. Trying to find good games, and even more than that, good functionality apps. But fuck I really hate the steam VR marketplace, its just a clusterfuck of 20$ garbage.

>>61292336
use this to see what games people are playing, good way to filter out the bullshit
http://vrlfg.net/

>>61292355
sweet thanks

Part of me wants to get a vive but I'm scared that vergence-accommodation conflict will fuck with my eyesight.

Did they fix the Pimax 4K software yet / Did someone make a workaround?

>>61292387
Do you have an eye condition? If not then it is literally not a problem.

>>61292387
i've used mine over 150 hours in the past year, no issues. I don't have any eyesight problems though

>>61292362
Not him but just saying, not all of those are really what you want to play. Some of them are probably even counted because arcades are running those games. For example, Job Simulator isn't much of a game even if it's a nice family friendly first demo to show to people. It's basically a polished tech demo. There are a lot of those out there.

>>>/v/

>>61292525
>>>/pol/

>>61288675
How does the oculus compare to the vive? Are they basicly identical or is the vive worth the extra $300 dollars?

>>61292967
The buying guide might answer your question, but they're basically identical with the Vive being easier to setup and deal with for larger spaces and the Rift having superior controllers (without having to buy another set).

>>61292333
are these US only?

>>61292333
Wow that video really didn't do justice for the product. He ends up sounding like a shill who doesn't know what the Vive or Oculus are. Also it didn't really show us anything we didn't already know.

>>61293300
of course he's a shill, an actual review would campare it to existing HMDs.

>>61293408
He's doing a pretty bad job of it then.

Why are the pastebins so biased for the Rift? There are some facts mixed with subjective opinions.

>>61288675
VR is a meme, and it's clear the very moment you "experience" it. Try again when you figure out how to move around properly.

>>61293716
OP here. I have a Rift and Vive and I basically wrote 90% of everything there. It's a WIP so if you see anything wrong with the texts let me know about it. The opinionated parts of the pastes are a combination of my own experience as well as the opinions of other enthusiasts which I've heard around places.

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>>61288675
pic related

>The reighing economic system is a vicious circle of isolation. Its technologies ae based on isolation, and they contribute to that same isolation. From automobiles to television, the goods that the spectacular system chooses to produce also serve it as weapons for constantly reinforcing the conditions that engender "loneyl crowds." With ever-increasing concreteness the spectacle recreates its own persuppositions.

>>61289290
He is truly pathetic.

>>61293889
>in the grim darkness of the far future, nobody can afford socks or new tape but we have really kickass VR goggles

>>61295009
>also people's feet are fucking huge

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>>61288675
Looking for a commercial VR gear that's not for gaymen and isn't dogshit chink tier like samsung or cardboard. I just want a comfy headsed that I can watch whatever on for a long period of time that isn't bloated it price because it comes with 2 gyroscopic dildos to juggle with.

>>61295497
No headset is comfy atm. It's all heavy and uncomfortable.

>>61288675
I got a DK1. wat do?

Seems like nothing is compatible with it.

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>>61295497
Not sure why you consider Samsung Gear VR "dogshit chink tier" or uncomfortable; maybe you aren't wearing it right?

I got a Gear VR to go with my S8 about a month ago and I love it. It's lighter than any desktop PC headset, and more comfortable than Cardboard (although Cardboard is a really low bar, because it's literally made out of cardboard).

I can wear my Gear VR for 2+ hours without getting uncomfortable at all. The completely wireless VR experience is awesome IMO.

Biggest drawbacks are
>locked into Oculus store (although there are ways around this)
>only one hand controller
>have to own a Samsung phone for the Gear VR to even be an option

The last one isn't necessarily a drawback if you like Samsung phones (which I do), so it wasn't a drawback for me.

>>61295828
You might be able to play some steamvr stuff through OSVR.

>>61295744
The Windows mixed reality headsets might just be comfortable enough though. Maybe.

>>61293145
The dev kits? I would assume not.

>>61290082
>old games in VR

While not as old, I'm pretty excited to play HL2 and A:I again in VR. Thank god for modders.

>>61291025
i disagree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=944lpWbBB30

Vive owner here.
Never intended to buy it, didn't seem worth it. But my wealthy parents got me a set for my birthday, and I really enjoy it.

Most recently I got Climbey, which is a ton of fun. Also can get me sweating after a while.
My fav game is holopoint. Looking at getting holodance soon.

Anyone else /comfy/ VR consumer?

Can someone please make a daydream VR 4chan browser/posting app? Thx

>>61290085
VR will be the future it does 3D and then some. It's in it's infancy right now. Give it 4 years and it will be 300$ or even 250$ with tons of advancements. A ton of people said the same about Smartphones how it was not needed and how it will die because everyone already had those things. VR does not have the same problems 3D had.

>>61292336
Try

New Arcade Retro Neon. I found it fun as a good demo.

>>61292525
>>61288715
>>61295497
>>61294999
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>>61289290
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>>61290900
>>61291025
>Has never tried VR
>Proceeds to shitpost
>painfully obvious that has never tried VR
Please refrain from shitposting about VR, You've never used it and it shows. Just because you're poor doesn't mean we all are.

What's the process for getting games to run in SBS 3D in Virtual Desktop? 3D Vision doesn't support SBS but Helix Mod/3Dmigoto will allow it to? Is this correct?

Oh shit, they're selling the Rift and Touch together for $399 now.

My friend let me try his oculus (he's developing a small game for it) and i noticed this grid-like pattern on the visor.

Well it's quite immersive, but also uncomfortable.
After 30 minutes my glasses were literally covered in sweat and i had quite an headache.

I guess i have to get used to it.
Anyway, is there something like blender or paint for VR?

>>61302933
Not blender, not that complex yet, but MS Paint level equivalents exist. Google Tiltbrush, Google Blocks, Oculus Medium, Oculus Quill, they all do things differently but are generally like modeling or painting in 3D.

If I know I'll not have space for a vive should I get the oculus now it's cheapo?

>>61303834
Yeah the Vive is great for all spaces but if you don't need large room-scale then the Rift is fine. At this price I don't know if I'd recommend the Vive to any regular person to be honest.

>>61302041
>is impressed by toy tech
>can't comprehend others not being impressed by toy tech
>they must've never tried it, even though they clearly have
>Being so poor that he thinks being able to afford VR means you're not poor
Please refrain from posting. You're underage and it shows. Just because you're a child doesn't mean we should have to put up with your shit.

Literally no games.

>>61303910
Nice meme.

For real though, it's not true anymore. The games are still limited but it's enough to justify the price of VR now. Stuff like Echo Arena, Robo Recall, The Mage's Tale, Onward, Star Trek: Bridge Crew, they're worth it. I'd even play those games rather than most of the games on normal PC/console right now.

>>61303992
Those would all be $10 indie titles no one would have even heard of if they didn't have a VR gimmick. There are NO big budget titles at all.
Trying to convincing someone to buy hardware to play something called Echo Arena or Mage's Tale is fucking laughable.

>>61303992
>Echo Arena, Robo Recall, The Mage's Tale, Onward, Star Trek: Bridge Crew
>enough to justify the price of VR
kek

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Can't wait until this general falls out of page 10, VR is such a gimmick.

>>61304057
>I have no argument except that my opinion is the correct one and it's superior lol

>>61304034
The only laughable thing is how badly VR is marketed. DESU the real problem of VR now isn't the quality or the price or the content anymore, it's getting people to understand how much better the perceptual qualities of VR are than monitors.

But saying this to you will absolutely be a waste since you've already decided to let VR be a meme in your head.

>>61304104
Have fun waiting. I'm going the bump the shit out of this.

>>61304114
>I think Echo Arena, Robo Recall, The Mage's Tale, Onward, Star Trek: Bridge Crew are worth over 800 bucks.
Your opinion can't even be considered a rational one, therefor I need no arguments.

>>61304145
Desperate, sad! That was my intention in the first place...

>>61304148
>800

It's $400 now.

>>61304114
>But saying this to you will absolutely be a waste since you've already decided to let VR be a meme in your head.
I've tried VR faggot. It's cool the first time, but once you've been playing around for an hour or so, you get bored of it. My friends Rift has been gathering dust for months. It will never replace 2D screens, and it's obvious after using VR for more than 5 minutes.

>>61304184
For a shit tier Rift perhaps. If you're gonna buy into the meme, might as well get a proper set like the Vive.

>>61304211
Nah, you tried a shitty demo. And your friend is actually retarded to have bought so early. That was a shitty time for software.

>>61304225
That's a meme too. Most real owners of both headsets as well as enthusiasts see them a lot more similar than they are different. The perception of the Vive being better in all ways than the Rift is a misconception.

>>61304230
I tried half the games you consider 'worth it' dumbass. Protip: they're not worth it.

>>61304256
t. rift owner

>>61288712
>Shitposting is not what we're here for.
are you sure you want to be here and not on reddit? You seem to be lost, your safe space is over there.

>>61304301
I didn't even list them all and also you're opinion is pretty much contrary to the majority of people who are actually getting the systems.

>>61304301
I own a Vive and a Rift.

>>61304361
>your opinion is pretty much contrary to the majority of children who are actually getting the systems gifted from their parents
FTFY

It's a fun little toy, I'm not denying that. It's just not very impressive, the most fun I had in VR was playing superhot, and that game is not very good at all. Most other games are glorified minigames. Besides the games being shit, the whole thing is just inconvenient. You have to wear this huge thing on your head, you can't easily take a sip/bite/smoke while playing. It becomes a drag very quickly. Again, it will never replace 2D screens, and you're literally insane if you think otherwise.

>>61304427
The reviews for the products on all the vendor websites would disagree with you.

These games sound stupid as fuck. Super Hot? Elite Dangerous? Cringe!

>>61304467
For example.

https://www.amazon.com/HTC-VIVE-Virtual-Reality-System-Pc/product-reviews/B00VF5NT4I/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=avp_only_reviews&sortBy=recent

If it was just a meme then surely, after a year since launch, the scores would drop, but they haven't.

>>61293889
>>61288675
this is so cringe

>>61304467
>other kids agree with me!
Is that supposed to be some sort of argument?

VR developer here. have developed projects for multinational companies and dubai. shooot if you guys have any questions

>>61304482
>Pretty cool but still an overpriced novelty item at this point in this tech's development.
Literally the first sentence I read. And I agree with it. Fanboys like you will defend anything and are not to be taken seriously.

>>61304506
Do you honestly ever see it taking off in gaming? I get how it can be useful for educational purposes, but clearly this fad will never replace regular gaming as we know it on 2D screens, correct?

>>61304530
I think "immersive" games will be much better in VR. Horror games and sort games will be the ones for VR. Other games, I don't think there's much of a chance.

The area VR is going to change(changing) is in industrial applications. Almost everyone is adopting it

>>61304516
>overpriced
>HTC still hasn't dropped their price
>still a five star rating

Really makes you think.

>>61304565
Thank you.

>>61304596
See that, the VR dev agrees with me. It's a thing for walking simulators and racing games. Will never replace 2D gaming. Really makes you think.

>>61304506

VR tourism will be a thing in 5-7 years won't it?

Just strap a go pro to some bangledeshi boy, charge one tenth the price of a "vacation", put an earpiece in his ear "I want to see that", set it up through paypal that you can pay for shit, boom your summer vacation and you never leave the house.

Phones are basically to this point now aren't they? You don't even need a vive.

>>61304644
>5-7 years
It is already happening. Lots of startups already doing it.

>>61304614
>have developed projects for multinational companies and dubai

That's a very nice unbiased opinion.

>>61304661

I fucking knew it.
I had a dinner party with some of my wife's friends like 3 years ago, they all thought it was so quaint I still like tech and videogames, but they thought I was fucking bonkers when I said this would be happening.

They're going to be the first one's to try it, I swear.

>>61304667
>have bought into a meme and am now trying to defend my purchase from citics
No yours is much better.

>>61304644
The problem is phones aren't good enough to do some of the real time rendering. If you actually look at the tourism apps out there, on phone VR, it's all shitty blurry photospheres you mostly can't move around in. Phones need to get a lot better.

>>61304661
Employed fag here, it's a failing business. Virtual reality isn't actually a reality. You don't feel the wind or taste anything, they usually point out.

>>61304683
No, I'm saying the majority of consumer opinion is better, which it is, because it literally represents what most people think.

>>61304691

hence the 5-7 years preface.

But I think streaming 360 degrees at 720 is not terribly far away. And this will give carriers real justification for upgrading infrastructure, most people don't even need or see the relative advantage of 4G LTE. Granted, if someone were doing this over cell, there'd need to be more unlimited plans.

I got VR headset for Android for my birthday.
Wish it was half as cool. It's good for watching 3D movies, but I dislike downloading proprietary apps and games for it.
I wish VLC supported 360 vids like it does on PC.

>>61304705
>I'm saying the majority of meme buyers opinion is better, which it is, because it literally represents what most other meme buyers think.
FTFY, just because there is a bunch of you doesn't make it the majority opinion dumbass. Most people have NOT bought into the meme, because they agree with me.

>>61304699

Yes, but, if the trip itself were a factor of ten less than actually going there, it would lead to more consumerism.

Have a "guide" with a bunch of cash. Link in your paypal, go to villages and buy shit and have it shipped to you.

I could honestly see this as a win win situation. It would provide income for more remote regions and facilitate infrastructure creation; because if it becomes that easy to see these places, you know governments will want to put on their best face for Westerners AND want uninterrupted feeds of the vacations.

>>61304769
lmfao, how can watching a video ever replace actually going there? You're either very dumb or you just don't like traveling.

>>61304793

Yes, and you're looking at a consumerism driven culture that has simultaneously had its purchasing power depressed, while cost rises.

People want those experiences, but by and large can't afford it. I'm not saying it will REPLACE tourism, but could provide an alternative for people who want to see those places on a more individual level, but just can't afford it.

Your argument makes no sense, it's like telling the creators of BBC's Planet Earth, "lol why the fuck would anyone buy your movie, when they can just go to these remote locations!"

>>61304833
>lol why the fuck would anyone buy your movie, when they can just go to these remote locations
Yeah except the BBC doesn't present it as an alternative to travel you moron.

>People want those experiences
Yes, and VR doesn't provide them. That's the point.

>>61304859

So I'm off to the gym, but am keeping this page up.

How doesn't what I've laid out provide these opportunities?

Will be back in a few hours.

>>61304881
>How doesn't what I've laid out provide these opportunities?
How does it? It's a video.

I don't have depth perception and can't see 3D. Basically, my eyes aren't 'synced' to one another, they kinda see independently.

Can I still see VR? I wanna try it but I'm afraid it won't 'work' and it will just suck. Right now I think VR is great and it is the future.

Something like this will get very popular, I think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ioVceVlvI (The show is terrible, feels like it's paid for and written by EA. Skip to 10m for the completed thing.

>>61304914
Forgot to say: That shit already exists!

http://www.virtuix.com/

And I know there's another one where the harness comes from the top but I forgot the name.

>VR is so fucking dead people don't have geinune threads about it anymore and it's been delegated to a forced general on /g/

>>61304914
Cyclops here, lost an eye to diabetes. VR does nothing for me.

>>61304932
VR FUCKIN RULES

>>61304974
do you have fatty diabetes or the other one

>>61293858
Germany has Rift + Motion controllers kit for 450 €, is this good price?

>>61305146
If you like what VR currently is and are fine with the limitations, sure. But you should be aware of everything before you decide anything. Ultimately we can only provide information and the judgement is for you to decide. Read the intro paste to understand pretty much everything you need to know about where VR currently is at, and where it's going in a year or two.

>>61304737
We're actually both right and wrong. So you spurred me to go find some more objective information about consumer opinions. So far this is what I've found:

>The study found that many consumers increased their familiarity and interest in VR technology with as little as 2 minutes of exposure to content. In fact, just over 50% of viewers showed some increase in their likelihood of purchasing or using VR technology after their brief informational experience. If these participants were to learn even more about VR, it’s reasonable to expect that their attitudes would evolve even further. Additionally, 48% of consumers considered VR more likeable after learning more about it, as well as 48% that were more likely to look up more information afterward. A separate Nielsen Media Lab study used a similar methodology, but instead exposed over 150 respondents to content in a virtual reality headset, resulting in an even greater impact: 68% identified as more likely to purchase or use virtual reality technology after the experience. These shifts in intent demonstrate how more education and exposure will continue to change consumer attitudes about virtual reality.

>http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insights/news/2016/reality-check-a-peek-at-the-virtual-audiences-of-tomorrow.html

>>61305284
>Look, more opinions!
wew lad, still never going to replace 2D screen gaming though.

>>61305284
>as little as 2 minutes of exposure to content
I agree, the first 5 minutes you're overwhelmed by VR. After 15 minutes that feeling is gone. After 30 minutes you're wondering, is this all?

>>61304974
Aw that sucks. You'd still get head tracking though.

Vive is expensive AF

>>61305309
I never even mentioned replacing 2D games. My point is that it's not as bad as you or the other guy is saying. Or maybe you're the same guy I don't know. Personally I think your claim of VR not replacing 2D gaming is correct, but headsets will replace the majority of monitors for people come 2030 when the headsets are like $100, ultra high res, and are a small pair of goggles.

>>61305362
The 2 minute exposure is to informational content, not the actual experience. Unless we find objective studies that show consumer opinion after 15-30 minutes of in-VR exposure, neither of us can say what the opinion is for the majority of people.

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VR is a dead meme. Call me when I can buy a rift including the controllers for 300 bucks and every $120 GPU can run 1440@120hz.

>>61305516
>your claim of VR not replacing 2D gaming is correct
Good, that's literally the only thing I've been telling you.

>headsets will replace the majority of monitors for people
lol, no, no they won't. It's a niche market and will always remain one. People enjoy watching movies together, this includes occasionally looking at each other and talking, no sane person is going to buy VR headsets for the whole family to watch 2D movies on. VR headsets will not replace 2D screens ever, not for gaming, not for movies, for literally nothing.

>studies
Your desperate search to find other peoples' opinions to validate your own just shows how much you're denying the facts right in front of you.

shit, why must facebook tempt me with their sale of rift. told myself that i would wait, but this makes it hard to do.

>>61305622
>facts
>literally

You keep saying that as if it makes your opinions any more valid than others'. Sure maybe I'm a fanboy, but you're sure as hell not an objective authority either.

>>61293889
What is he playing?

>>61306160
He isn't playing, he's watching weeb shit.

Can I play VR games from my PC with a Samsung Gear VR? I'm not expecting it to be as good as an actual Oculus but I'd like to get a taste of VR.

>>61304114
I'm sure Apple will release their own headset in the next 2 years. Probably a phone VR device rather than standalone. Then VR will be every where.

>>61306874
That would be pretty good to get mainstream adoption, but perhaps a necessary evil as well. To be desu though pretty much all companies are shitty and should be hated. Apple really isn't that bad.

>>61305602
don't forget the "without brazenly visible pixels everywhere" part

>>61306464
Check out RiftCat. It's compatibble with SteamVR and some other shit, but it's also only rotational tracking, so don't expect to walk around your room.

>>61306464
honestly it won't be as far off as you might expect, in spite of the high-sounding resolutions modern VR headsets it's still not enough to give you a clear experience
I tried VR on a G6 side-by-size with the Vive and the image wasn't a heck of a lot better

Gear vr is a joke I don't know why people recommend it over a cheap cardboard

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>>61308092
the controller?

>>61308956
>a remote makes it better

You cant be serious

>>61293889
>>61288675
good thing no one will see me like this.

>>61311582
Hi OP. Having fun bumping your shitty trhead?

>>61312003
i am not op friend, just someone who finally fell for the vr meme, and after putting down the money, felt like bumping.
oh here i go again bumping it.

>>61288675
thanks, I'm surprised this didn't exist on /vg/ but was always too lazy to do anything

DK2 for race sims like assetto/Pcars/Dirt?

Is this a good idea or should i keep waiting for VR to get better?

>>61312341
If you're going to do race sims only, actually I'd suggest waiting for the Microsoft Mixed Reality headsets. They're going to be cheaper than current headsets, and they're going to be better than the DK2. Just wait for the end of the year.

>>61312053
I finally got off my ass to do it after talking with a few anons on /v/ with some of them helping out. We agreed it be better here since /vg/ has isn't a board for browsing.

cringe

>>61314071
Learn to sage...

>>61300937
>my wealthy parents