/cyb/ + /sec/ general: cyberpunk and cybersecurity: ad hoc edition

hi anons

I always feel like Future Garage has some /cyb/ feels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=517FG8M-6es

>>61265377
Hello.

>>61265380
I agree.

Shit I hope maderas sees my question in the other thread and answers it here

That guy must be sick of me asking him shit by now

>>61265322
I want to set up a bunch of raspberry pis connected to free wifi across my city for various purposes. What would be the best way to do this, and actually hide it? I can't think of anything not getting picked up and thrown away or destroyed within a week (aside from literally burying them underground)

>>61265565
Are they worth their money?

>>61265635
The pis? I have a zero and i like it a lot. Haven't played with any of the bigger ones since I haven't needed them. Too bad the zeroes are never in stock anywhere

>>61265498
I've used it. It's very informative and a good prep, but there is always new stuff to learn outside of those courses. So always accompany research outside of watching those lessons.

>>61265651
I suppose they're good if you can't be hassled with learning electronics and making a similar device as a project.
Quicker too.

>>61265665
Sounds worthwhile.

wow, threads been not dying at 100 posts.
what's going on?

>>61265728
I spend a great deal of time ensuring they don't go 'unbumped'.

>>61265380
Any recommendations?

>>61265845
Burial is always my #1 recommendation.

>>61265377
Wassssaaaaaa!

>>61265915
Thank you, I'm starting to lack in decent 'new' music.
Or at least, easily discoverable decent music.

>>61265929
This thread is so friendly.

>>61265932
Psychedelic genres are always good choices too if you want to space out.

>>61266066
/v/ doesn't infest it, so it's decent.

>>61266123
>Psychedelic genres are always good choices too if you want to space out.
You sometimes need a break from reality, I agree.

>/v/ doesn't infest it, so it's decent.
I do enjoy that this subject is largely lost on /v/ictims and so they only occasionally come in here to shitpost and espouse:
>If you haven't got anything to hide, don't worry.

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>been seeding season 6 of The Simpsons for like a year now
>just today got an ISP email about it, any other time this has happened was over mainstream recent stuff

OK now I'm scared, do VPN's actually help or are they a meme?

>>61266410
Paid VPNs with good policy and in a 'smart' location are good, yes.
They literally encrypt your traffic and give you a different IP.
Your ISP will be able to tell you're using a VPN, but not the traffic, so long as DNS requests are going the VPN too and aren't to compromised DNS servers.
You dig?

>>61266410
Do you have the torrent client you're using properly configured? i.e. Did you make sure to have its traffic proxied through your VPN service?

>>61266561
Not >>61266410.
Just thought I'd ask.
Does anyone else hoard ebooks?

>>61265322
Does e-residency count as cyb?
E-estonia is amazing.

>>61266410
I just force encryption in the client settings and use dnscrypt. It probably helps that I mostly download anime though.

>>61266688
I do. Just on the off-chance someone asks for something. Plus, I like to skim through them occasionally.

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>>61266843
I don't suppose you would happen to have a copy of the accompanying book for the Art of Electronics, this book is Learning the Art of Electronics?
>Picture related.

>>61266748
What is Estonia like now with its technological boom?

>>61266748
>>61266939
Would like to know this

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>>61266922
I unfortunately do not. :(

>>61266688
i download pdfs and ebooks. probably too trusting about random pdfs, but the ebooks are mainly of stuff that is in my to-read list.

>>61267045
It is such a hard book to source, whereas 3rd edition Art of Electronics is fairly easy to source.
Why is the accompaniment so elusive?

>>61267054
Me too, I have a long to-do and to-read list.
Any help with >>61266922?

>>61267086
no sorry, don't have it either. just now getting into electronics so haven't started hoarding relevant materials yet.

>>61267114
Thank you anyway, anon.
I wish you luck in your electronic endeavours.

>>61267030
To be honest, I was rather surprised to hear about the tech boom in Estonia.
Good on them for moving on from being in the Soviet Bloc.

>>61265380
yeah future garage is great. always gives me a sense of walking through the night life district of a future metropolis at 3am

>>61267278
It certainly has that aesthetic.

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>>61265565
When Hiding small objects in an urban environment, the key is to make the drop point uninteresting. Uninteresting places are rarely discovered by civilians and governments do not have time to turn over every rock in a particular city. For theses reasons, the undersides of dumpsters make exceptional hididng places. Objects placed underneath them may go undiscovered for months.


Or just go geocaching if you want to learn how to hide shit.

>>61267507
This is an excellent idea.

>>61265565
What're your plans for them, generally?

>>61267507
idk if this would work because even dumpsters get emptied and moved around, leaving the item exposed and/or crushed

>>61266825
I've been forcing encryption this whole time (I'm using Deluge if that matters).

To my knowledge, as long as your IP address is known to be seeding a certain thing lawyers can send threatening letters to your ISP, encryption or no.

>>61267887
Weren't you going to hide them in lockable outlets?

>>61267910
Do you do something similar to this with your vpn? https://nordvpn.com/tutorials/socks5/deluge/

>>61267992
This.

>>61267910
Don't they arrest people in Japan for digital piracy?

>>61268230
A friend of mine who lived there for a year says they're pretty strict about it, even for anime (which is fair game here in Burgerland). Singapore is too, but you probably figured as much.

>>61265322
Just because they both start with cyber doesn't mean they're related in the slightest

>>61268328
See previous threads for varied valid responses.

>>61268312
I know Singapore is practically a dictatorship, that the majority of the world turns a blind eye to.

>>61268328 see for a great BTFO: >>61227948

>>61268461
nice samefag

>>61268469
I'm not Maderas.
It doesn't give you any less of BTFOing though.

>>61268485
>using BTFO as a verb unironically
go back

>>61268499
We're on an imageboard, you dolt.
Imageboard culture, applies to an imageboard, regardless of the board or thread you're posting it on.

We've slowed down, again.

How do you guys ever buy things online with all this tinfoil shit?

>>61268873
Cryptocurrency and false information.

>>61268873
/csg/

>>61268885
At least we don't get tracked.

>>61268884
>want to order something through an online marketplace
>put in a fake name and address as shipping info
>"take that botnet"

>>61268984
There's ways you can get around that though.

>>61268995
Please enlighten me on how you have things shipped to your house through the internet without giving your real name or at least your real address.

>>61269008
P.O box in a fake name

>>61269008
You don't get it shipped to your house, that's part of the trick.

>>61269045
Autism, and still linked to you through facial recognition and/or payment methods.
>>61269046
Yeah man let me have my new monitor shipped to a burnt out crackhouse and then go there to pick it up instead of just picking it up at my house. Excellent idea.

>>61269067
Gosh, that digital trail left with cash. ;)
And avoid cameras.

>Yeah man let me have my new monitor shipped to a burnt out crackhouse and then go there to pick it up instead of just picking it up at my house. Excellent idea.
If it was something innocuous like that, I'd just order it without hooey on my girlfriend's phone.

>>61269008
Ship it to a house that's up for sale.

>>61269077
Ordering everything through a friend's card and then compensating them with cash is probably the only good solution.
>>61269097
Autism.

>>61266410
Yes you can some even have SOCKS5 proxy with it.

>>61269118
Well no, because if it wasn't something above board and the police questioned him/her, is he/she going to willing to get in trouble for you?

>>61269137
I'm not talking about buying illegal things. I'm talking about benign everyday purchases.

>>61269138
Oh, yeah, I guess the monitor would be a minor security risk.

>>61269118
>Autism
Better than getting arrested.

>>61269157
If you're going things that'll get you arrested then shipping to your friend's place won't save you.

>>61269165
>shipping to your friend's place
?

>>61269143
So you find multiple minor security risks for the sake of convenience (ie online purchasing) an acceptable sacrifice?

>>61269186
Yeah, because the only risk in IDing you through monitor size and/or hardware implants, which I'd notice after I take it apart and inspect it.
So, it isn't really as much of an issue...

>>61269200
The issue is inputting your address and possibly name/payment info, which seems to go against your whole thing here.

>>61269209
You keep your lives seperate, so crossover isn't an issue, unless they'd connect monitor size and you.
Which is fairly esoteric.

>>61269220
I only have one life, though. Unless you're referring to doing everything else with an extreme attention to security and privacy then ordering something off amazon through your home IP as if you're playing a character.

>>61269238
>Play a role.
Normie anon and cyberpunk anon.

What's everyones' favourite cyberpunk anime?

>>61269442
>>>/a/

>>61269447
>What is Lain?
Fuck off.
I'd also like to mention, this was originally founded as an anime imageboard.

>>61269461
You fuck off. Go talk about anime in /a/. This is /g/.

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>>61269477
No, this is /cyb/ /sec/ motherfucker.
Lain is Queen of this place.

>>61269501
No one cares about l-who-the-fuck, go back to /a/. This is a technology board.

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>>61269510
I bet you think you are a big man behind your computer

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>>61269501
everyone knows sword art online is /cyb/ as fuck xDDD

>>61269519
Go to your anime board to shitpost.

>>61269510
>>61269527
Stay that to my face, I dare you.

>>61269522
>sword art online
REEEEEEEEE

If an anime doesn't have NTR in it it isn't /cyb/

>>61267030
Estonian here. AMA

>>61269568
What is Estonia like now since its tech boom?

>>61269442
Texhnolyze

Havent seen Lain yet

>>61269582
>Texhnolyze
Good choice, anon.
Though, you should really see Lain.

>>61269576
Tbh I felt the tech boom in 2004 or so. Seems to have slowed down the past 13 years, delivering us only Transferwise and Taxify(commie blocks Uber).

Salaries still suck
Weather still sucks

It's as gray and depressing you expect a commie block country to be.

>>61269612
Is the technology noticeable on the streets?

>>61269647
Oddly enough it is. Memes aside, you got parking, bus tickets and voting all done online.

>>61269656
Would you say Estonia is cyberpunk:
>"high tech, low life?"

>>61269678
Well, if you put it that way then that does sound pretty cyberpunk idd.

>>61267507
Dumpster would get exposed first text it gets emptied. You want it to look like it belongs there. Make it look like an important panel and nobody will bother to fuck with it because they don't know what it is.

What books are you reading?
Completed Animal Farm, started 1984

>>61269727
the god delusion by richard dawkins

>>>61260666 (replying to question from the last thread)
1) Anon, sorry for the late reply; I am up to my neck in work right now; I will answer 1/2 your question now and 1/2 later.
2) I am heavily utilized by my employer, so it is not unusual for me to be involved in 5-7 high priority projects at a time.
3) Thus, I can easily work 50-60 hours a week sometimes. I like to maximize my time and development, so I will eat lunch in my lab I usually re-watch interesting con talks, technical lectures or listen to that weeks Off the Hook or Off the Wall.
4) After work, I use a training method that uses penetration testing as a base. I remote into a host located in any number of multiple converged infrastructure/Unified Computing Systems (a.k.a, UCS or domain -in –a-box) like solutions or servers utilizing Hyper-V Manager.
3) These boxes contain fully virtualized Windows AD Domains with a multitude of security solutions/products installed amongst the domain hosts, servers, DCs, PDC(s) and some industrial control systems, Linux/Unix/Unix-like clients/servers running at different levels of virtualization.
4) None of the systems are vulnerable by design (some may be a bit behind on updates). Real world IT mistakes happen sometimes, such as vulnerable test machines being left up.
5) Most times I remote into a new host and am completely ignorant to the configurations, products and technologies within that domain.
6) So I attack the domain; this for me is the equivalent of sparring: I am looking for weaknesses or lapses of knowledge in myself as I look for them in my opponent (the domain).
7) During this I search with Startpage (or Google if necessary) anything I find interesting or perplexing in the domain. I make notes (ctrl c and ctrl v to text files) and bookmark sites that could be valuable later. There is no pressure or time limit on the attack, so I take my time during this process.

>>>61260666 → (cont'd)
8) This process is more about learning than exploiting; I may read 4 or 5 different articles concerning an issue or point of interest. I am looking to plug gaps in my understanding; if I am going to employ an archaic or new tool, exploit, program or script, I read as much as I can about it (after looking at its programming of course) and will not deploy it until I have a thorough understanding as to how it works.
9) If I find a tool, exploit, program or script that I find I may use a portion of these training sessions to incorporate it/them into my workflow while seeking to judge its strengths, limitations and possible impact on network infrastructure
10) The impact on network infrastructure consideration is very important: you may want your test to bring down the house, but you don’t literally want it to bring down the house. Thus, I may practice using a tool, exploit, program or script repeatedly to test out/get a feel for its functionality and options before ever introducing it to my employer or a client’s environment.
11) Another reason why I make good use of live drilling/training: once you gain ingress onto a target’s LAN or physical property, your chances of being detected are no longer 0.00%. Training and preparedness increase efficiency which decreases wasted time or actions, lessening probability of detection
11) Each second and action you take, you raise the probability of detection. For a hacker/activist, detection can lead to federal confinement and stiff financial penalties (Stephen Watt is an example of this ridiculousness). For a pentester, the result can range from a bruised ego to a happy customer to a loss of customer confidence (latter is likely especially if you were cauht early in an engagement due to carelessness/lack of preparation).

>>61269771
Wait...you train in your spare time by actually doing red team attacks on real companies?

>>>61260666 →
12) During a training session I may gain a Meterpreter shell then utilize random Metasploit post exploitation modules that I have never utilized before. I may wander around the file system of an Industrial Control station I’ve exploited for hours. It is all about learning and experimenting, but not cutting corners when doing either: learn why things are happening as they are.
13) Usually try to keep these training sessions around 4 hours long (time flies when you are having fun). Often, they end when I am catch an unexpected glimpse of dawn (time flies when you are having fun)
14) I have learned to live with 0 to 4 hours a couple days a week. I may catch a nap before the following evenings training session (I catch up on most of my sleep on the weekends). If what I am working that evening was especially interesting, I may pick up the next evening where I left the night before.
15) My current employer does not allow me to freelance in any way shape or form. Which is a shame, because for me, another great way to improve is to is to enumerate and attack some of the most secure systems/networks on Earth.
16) When I was pushing forward with my development in 2010ish, there was a (slowly) increasing number of (a few) vendor bounty programs (now called a bug bounty). Google had been doing so for awhile at that point. They were offering bounties and allowing most (it may have been all)of there domains to fall within scope.
17) Last I heard, Yahoo's bug bounty program has all of their domains within scope, including acquisitions.I used to take full advantage of these as training opportunities and a legal means to develop my skills attacking companies I despised.
18) Earlier in my career, most companies were very liberal with the access and scope they allowed participants. .I didn't graduate past the enumeration phase for for some time after I started using them for my training.

>>61269771
>>61269866
>>61270283
>LARPing THIS hard

>>61269881
No.... I manage a Cyber Security Lab for a well known international business.The systems I attack for my training are systems that were repurposed for this purpose within my lab. One of the UCS in question could easily serve as the entire domain for a medium size company.

>>61270327
Oh ok, so who do you get to set them up if you don't know how they work?

Also is it too much trouble to answer my query from the other thread regarding entry level positions?

>>61270288
Hahaha... No. though I may be such an incredible LARPER that I conned Weld Pond and The Grugq. Go look at Chris Wysopal's Twitter somewhere around June 25th.

Congratulations...you are the first and last completely wrong person I will ever entertain here.

>>61270336
I apologize...I'm here to help and wouldn't intentionally overlook someones question hadn't seen your question. Let me go look at the question and I will get an answer right back to you.

No, I did not setup those particular machines the in my Lab...Also, the exact product in question isn't exactly a UCS or multiple converged infrastructure.
I work for a fair but conservative company.
The product in questions is unique to the industry of my employer, so I used what to my mind was the closest approximation to the technology in question.

I will be right back with your answer!

Anybody have any advice for setting up a small CTF for a club? I thought it would be neat to have one at the end of the semester to utilize everything we learned but it looks like its a lot of fucking work and I think I might have bit off more then I can chew.

I want to get into the /sec/ field after I finish my comp sci degree. What things should I be learning on my free time? I don't really know where to start.

I'm already fairly competent at programming and I've taken some introductory networking courses so I know the protocols and the OSI model, and I'll be taking the advanced network and security courses in September. What can I do in the mean time to sharpen my knowledge and prepare myself for a career?

>>61270336
Oh shit man I'm sorry... I was working and wrote the answer I just posted for the other Anon, but missed that one due to the page change and the guy answering the question below you.

I feel like a dick... so I'm going to assume this one was yours:

"The sheer amount of knowledge you have is clear why you command such a role in the field.

But what sort of roles exist for people who aren't as cluey as you?

I want to move into sec because it interests me. I'd like to do it fairly soon, and it's what I'm banking my entire existence on by moving to a major city in the next 12 months.

Literally all I've got is a few years of being a level 2 tech, an IT degree that if someone looked into it deep enough would see is absolute trash, and studies from textbooks.

How do you even break into a field that sounds like it's dominated by literal top guns? What are the entry level positions in infosec?"

Now I am going to open a reply so I can give you the space the question deserves.. one sec...

>>61265322
>>>61269519
>Go to your anime board to shitpost.
This is an anime website, fag

>>61270336

1) The sheer amount of knowledge you have is clear why you command such a role in the field.

1) I just worked hard anon...I'm not a super genius, or a dude who went to college or any of that shit. I'm from a shit background from a shit city ranked as one of the most unsafe in the US.


2) But what sort of roles exist for people who aren't as cluey as you?

Cybersecurity right now has a huge hiring issue: a good portion of those who are hiring and managing the cybersecurity departments of many companies have maybe 3 to 4 years experience tops, and zero interest in improving their knowledge of the subject past where they have too to keep their jobs.

You have an IT degree.. Period. And in 12months of dedicated study, you can learn more about this field than just about anyone who doesn't give a shit.has in 3 or 4 easily.

I would go for something like a Network Security Analyst (i was a Network Security Analyst for 3 years; but really, apply for everything

Seriously man..I know wehn someone tells someone else to worry it never works. There are going to be plenty of managers who are so relieved to get somone with some applicable knowledge and interest hired that they are never going to look deep into your cert.

And you have 12 months to improve your skills.

With Cyb as my witness, you come here, you leave me questions or need help with anything, and I will help you however I can.

You can learn alot about this field in 12months.. And you have an IT degree/. You said you are betting your existence on it, so thats powerful motivation.

I'm going to continue this Anon, hold on..


"

>>61265565
Hiding is one thing. How do you plan to power them?

In order, I'm planning on
>learning C in depth (K&R, maybe read the Dragon Book too)
>learning ASM (Hacking: the Art of Exploitation seems like a good start)
>learning the Unix shell, focusing on networking tools, as well as Perl 5
Does it seem like a good start? It'll probably take a lot of time but I want a solid foundation before doing actual security.

>>61269582
Texhnolyze is great. 10/10 taste.
>that OST

>>61270336
I hope I am replying to the right question, or I am going to feel like a jackass.

"Literally all I've got is a few years of being a level 2 tech, an IT degree that if someone looked into it deep enough would see is absolute trash, and studies from textbooks.".

Many times, HR has no clue what the job is or what it entails, so they look at the requirements for a company like Booz Allen Hamilton and copy their requirements.

People get spooked by the requirements and the belief that everyone in this field is Mudge or Dan Kaminsky.

They aren't anon; the biggest secrets to getting your first Info/NetSec job is:

1) Apply to every job you see within reason (everything that is a Level 1 or JR, anything, or requests 1 to 3 years experience)

2) AT an interview, if you are meeting with the hiring manager and your future coworkers, , and you have a conversation with them that demonstrates your command of basic InfoSec/NetSec, if you show your passion and interest, you are very likely to get hired.

"How do you even break into a field that sounds like it's dominated by literal top guns? What are the entry level positions in infosec?"

Every company on the planet it seems needs cybersecurity professionals, and their are just not enough out their yet, let alone those of the calibre you believe many of them are..

The entry level names of positions depend on the company; a Network Secuirty Analyst at Secure Works is entry level, but that wasn't the case in my last position.

I understand your anger: this is like life and death for you, and you see me skipping your question and posting a huge reply to others.

Since you think I am LARPING: You come here, you prepare for 12 months, I (and likely others at times) will help you prepare. And I will even write you or serve as a reference. Just try to be less of a dick abut mistakes.

>>61271451
>Just try to be less of a dick abut mistakes.
Breh I'm top gun guy, CCAr guy, hackers playbook guy. I matched your post style to your forum posts days ago. I know it's you, and I wouldn't cuss you out like that.

It kinda sounds like the way to get into the field is the same way I got into my current job, just applying anyway.

>>61271572
CCAr question I should clarify

I don't even have my CCNA yet

CCNA cyber ops I'll get it before I move

>>61265565
Very curious about your plans.

>>61267054
>probably too trusting of random pdfs

What could a pdf do? Serious question, I'm not very knowledgeable. How could opening a pdf harm you?

>>61267910
>lawyers can send threatening letters to your ISP

But can they actually do anything? /T/ told me you're not legally liable for torrenting/seeding.

>>61271091
>>61270725
>>61270540
>>61271451
perma luker here, also an IT rookie looking to make it in sec. Thanks for the inspiration.

Side note, anyone know a vpn that isn't banned here? Or have another anonimising method? I dislike having to post from my normal IP but otherwise it's the lurking life for me.

>>61271710
>>61267054
Malicious javascript can be injected into pdf

helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/overview-security-acrobat-pdfs.html#overview_of_security_in_acrobat_and_pdfs

Similar in concept to a malicious word macro.

>>61269568
How dificult would it be for IT student 2nd year uni to find summer job?

I always find this article interesting

https://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/how-omnipotent-hackers-tied-to-the-nsa-hid-for-14-years-and-were-found-at-last/

>>61271746
Mullvad or BolehVPN?

>>61221547
>>61213280
>What the fuck are you trying to say..?

I am simply saying that if you appear clean, professional and trustworthy people will trust you more than they should. is that so hard to understand?

>>61272372
I have mullvad but it's banned

>>61272836
>is that so hard to understand?
No, but that cringey, spergy post I replied to was.

>>61272836
It was a fucking shitpost you retard.

>>61265565
Take a high resolution picture of an area that would be of interest and we can comment that.

Yo can either make it look boring or official. Something like "Govt. property, removal under pains of death by night time death squads" tend to work.

Or that old "under construction" also works. There was an installation marked "under construction" with no visible activity for over a year near where I lived. Nobody ever cared, few noticed.

Streets are littered with anonymous looking boxes that are only inspected when a VIP is expected to travel past. Same with pylons, lines, signs, and hundreds of other types of infrastructure we never care about but that would have baffled anyone from 200 years ago.

>>61272868
>>61272880
>I am always caught when I try to enter, even a public toilet.
The post.

>>61271363
Anyone?

>>61273017
>>I am always caught when I try to enter, even a public toilet
Are you not a native English speaker..?

Has anything actually progressed with Netrunner?

>>61271363
Yes, it looks fine.

>>61273301
English is my 3rd or 4th language.

>>61274609
You're doing fine, anon.
I bet the fags above haven't even mastered the English language, let alone grasp the fundamentals of another.

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Remember this one:

ftp://[email protected]:21212

There is a sub directory called Cyberpunk where I am uploading various files I have collected over the years. I am still uploading.

>>61275669
Tell us when you're done.

>>61265322
Ban these stupid threads

>>61276035
Thinking is hard, I know.

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>>61276035
>whaa people are actually talking about technology on a technology board!

>>61271729
Far as I know action only really happens if you're dumb enough to sell bootlegs or actually host some platform (i.e Pirate Bay arrests).

desu I'm more worried because I'm still a college student and my mom freaks out when she gets a letter.

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>>61275771
I am done now for today.

It will take me time to find the rest (different computer). Also some is pasta I wrote but I didn't keep all links. Pastebin uses Google for searching and I have mysterious problems in finding some of it, such as the 4chan radio primer. I think Google somehow filters out hits with the word "Wullenweber".

Next up will be the load of "A Future We'd Like to See" and the FAQ I am (still) working on.

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I'm a beginner in the practice of vulnerability discovery and have just started finding my way around fuzzing protocols with Sulley and binaries with radamsa.

Does anyone have some strategies they could share for efficiently auditing a black-box binary? Should I begin with static analysis using IDA to search for insecure code or should I go straight to fuzzing with something like radamsa?

How about common tools they personally like to use when analyzing a binary for vulnerabilities? I'm planning to explore Manticore and angr this weekend. This part of the info sec field can be pretty overwhelming at times, so any comments on work process/good resources would be much appreciated!

Slowing down again.

think the average vir/g/in is too dumb for this thread
fucking normie invasion i swear

>>61278769
So much this.
Endless anti-UNIX, rate my GPU (non-crypto) and Winshill slide threads.
/V/ictims go home!

>>61265380
Some drum'n'bass, neurofunk and techstep are fine too, especially with good sound design. Billain for example

What are you working on today anons? Every day is a good day to get smarter!

>>61279543
Interesting you should ask that, just finished my owning my first box (VM). It'd be a piece of cake for more experienced users, took me 2 or 3 hours but I finished it nonetheless.

https://www.vulnhub.com/entry/hackfest2016-quaoar,180/

In case other beginners want it.

>>61279543
I'm powering through Protostar on exploit-exercises.com, then I'm planning to practice my C and x86 assembly so I can feel like less of a dummy when doing binary/source code auditing.

>>61276639
>my mom freaks out when she gets a letter

I feel you anon.

>>61279692
Just tell her it's what the cool kids are doing.

What are some of the more useful correlations y'all use when reviewing logs or searching in SIEM?

>>61280034
This is a good question, hoping it gets an answer. I've been using a SIEM for a while but haven't done much complicated. Mostly watch dashboards and have alarms for user lockouts and the like.

>>61280133
I've found that digging into a specific log over a longer period of time helps me "baseline" (even though it's not a true baseline, I know). Doing this helps me craft specific searches to make response times faster, but I haven't passed that hump of really correlating parameters across different sources yet.

>>61270336
I'm sorry about that man brother...Last night was the end of a long 36 hour day. Your comment looked like (to my sleep deprived mind) antagonistic following some other
comments here (and yours wasn't at all).

>>61271572
It really is about just applying for as many jobs as possible, being somewhat personable in the interview as well as knowledgeable, interested and dedicated the field.
The level of dedication this field takes and the continued learning involved have become a meme or trope even to those managers who don't give a shit about the field.
Often, they will hire someone young and interested so they can co-opt their knowledge.

Two very senior managers do this to me kind of frequently (the two managers doing it do care about security at least).

The most senior one co-opted an exploitation technique I designed that completely owns one of our most important products. I found it working on my own side project off the clock, and they took it as a project they commisioned.

It sucks, but sometimes you need to feed the beasts to get where you need to be. Five years from now you generally get what you work for, and this will all be a dream.

If you need anything TPG, get ahold of me at 0x00 and I will help you anyway I can brother..

what is the current cheap acer aspire one alternative, a cheap/small laptop to carry around and is capable of doing the cyber punk essentials

Does anyone have the list of thing you could do to for hardenjng you system? I think I saw it on older threads

>>61280933
thinkpad x220 if you desire more power in your laptop, slightly more expensive but you can find some on great deals.

or a slightly cheaper x200 that is libreboot compatible and is less powerful than the x220, but you can find some for about 48 dollars or 40, got mine at a steal of 48. completely functional, just some lid discoloration.

is ebay the best place for used thinkpads?

>>61281042
In my opinion, yes, you can easily find replacement parts or thinkpad lots or just a functional thinkpad. very plentiful market for them.

>>61281066
there are indeed many good deals, but the shipping prices are almost half the laptops prices, 70 and 80$ shipping to the middle east

>>61280933
I built one of these for less than $100 for external pentests; with Nethunter you get full access to Kali repos, which allows you add Debian repos. Anything that runs from a terminal will work on it. I use it all the time and never leave the house without it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqG8ivP0RkQ

The Thinkpad x220 is awesome too; I think it is a 12 12.5 inch notebook.. I know some say it is a meme, but I bought one a few months ago and adore it. I bought one from NewEgg with 8gb ram for less than $200.

>>61281150
fuck, this is nice
n-o-d-e is one of my favorite channels on YT

Link didnt show for some reason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqG8ivP0RkQ

>>61281170
He is a genius, and I don't use that term lightly, especially in our current age. I really believe he has one of the most important sites on the internet.

>>61281194
and now my opinion of you is much lowered
its just a maker site, not "one of the most important sites on the internet"
what makes you think that?

>>61281143
rip, I bought mine from an NYC company named computeroverhauls, try to see if they have any thinkpads, they're pretty north east, shipping should be cheaper, i live all the way south east and i got free shipping, anon.

>>61281470
It being a maker site is a big part of my belief in its importance. I believe he is introducing people (who otherwise wouldn't have been interested) to ideas like crypto and information security.

Also, many of his projects allow a person with very little hardware experience to produce tools that can aid them in gaining greater security and privacy in an age where they are dwindling, precious resources.

Also, when I say "one of the most important", I am also taking into account the scale of the internet: there are approx 644 million sites, thus, there could be at least 100,000 or more sites I believe are as important or more important.

But in the scope of what I have seen oin that 644 million, what he provides for free to the public are extremely valuable.

"crypto and information security"

I meant crypto and general information security since crypto by it's very nature is information security.

>>61280638
>If you need anything TPG,
I'm not sure what TPG is, but if I want anymore guidance, I'll hit you up there rather than making posts here hoping you'll stop by.

Thanks for all your informative posts, and rather uplifting and inspiring ones too brah!

can someone link me some academic papers where machine learning meets information security?

Has anyone here seen Battle Programmer Shirase?

>>61282772

Sorry, acronym for username should have been TGG (Top Gun Guy).

>>61276667
guest pass?

Almost down again.

>>61284215
Is it still not accessible?

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Lovely photo of some Aussie spy gear

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>>61269771
>Off the Hook or Off the Wall.
Commie show. Kys.

Gonna put Kali on my rpi and sit and have it crack all the wifi in my complex

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These Threads have been a real treat for me.
Thanks OP for creating and maintaing these, and all those who contribute their knowledge.

>>61281194
I'm also following n-o-d-e (bingewatched all the videos/blog post), can you reccomend some similar youtube channels / blogs ?

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>>61265322
Nice lain.jp shilling lol

>>61281015
How about the x230 with the classic keyboard mod? Goes for as much as the 220 where I live (then I'll just buy a 220 keyboard and plamrest and flash the patch)

>>61265760
Thanks from all of us /sec/ anons, it's great to see some variety

>>61286594
sure, why not

I was trying to go full cyber and watch ghost in the shell with my headset.
Damn it's hard to find a working vr theatre app.

>>61286662
That sounds fucking cool

Post pic of headset plox

>>61284215
>>61285250
Password is "guest"

>>61284215
username guest
password : password

=== /cyb/ news

Telepathy, as in readout from the brain is getting hot. Most likely there will be /sec/ considerations too.

>This former Google[X] exec is building a high-tech hat that she says will make telepathy possible in 8 years

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/07/this-inventor-is-developing-technology-that-could-enable-telepathy.html

>Current M.R.I. technology can already see your thoughts: "If I threw [you] into an M.R.I. machine right now ... I can tell you what words you're about to say, what images are in your head. I can tell you what music you're thinking of," says Jepsen. "That's today, and I'm talking about just shrinking that down."

More links:
Inventor: https://www.maryloujepsen.com/
Project: https://www.opnwatr.io/

Jacking in to cyberspace is getting closer every day.

>>61287255
Get the tinfoil full-body apparel ready boys.

>>61279594
Thanks. I just finished a few overthewire games and have been peeping vulnhub but I didn't know a good one to start with.

>>61287304
That is very much what the picture here >>61276667 is all about.

BTW a closer look at the project also mentions stimulating the brain optically. very interesting. This could overcome the limited life time of neuro electric interfaces so far.

can't we split the fiction and real security part?

>>61265760
>I spend a great deal of time ensuring they don't go 'unbumped'.
I think there are now 3 of us keeping it alive with contents. I do the European time zone and see there is a "soft patch" around midnight CET.

>>61268230
What a country arrest people for depends normally entirely on domestic industry.

Japan will defend manga/anime, the US will not care much. If you pirate Hollywood movies you get the firing squad.

Italy care for very little but woe betide if you wear fake designer clothes/shoes/watches. The police will rip the clothing off you.

for all the talk about the military industrial complex reality is that most US export comes from Hollywood, computer games and porn. The latter is probably aggregated with movies to avoid embarrassment. Thus that is what the US will rope you in for.

>want a cool hacker name that i can use in every online platform
>every name is taken
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61288023
>every online platform
That's where you failed.

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>>61288023
got mine from serial experiments lain

>>61288023
>>61288049
>find elite hacker nick to use
>some skid is already using it on multiple places
>use it myself somewhere else
>now if they try dox me they get this faggots shit instead (facebook and steam and linkedin like a fucking retard)

seriously dont reuse usernames (unless its for normie stuff)

>>61288146
All you really need is a series of numbers or some random noun

>>61288167
sure, but its way better to just use someone elses handle

>>61287526
there is insufficient posts from either camp to maintain a general. It's not a bad fit. I came for the /cyb/ and stayed for the /sec/, and I get the feeling at least a few others have done the same.

>>61287255
Well, that's fucking sinister, I foresee government and probably even corporate mind reading.

>>61287526
This is why the previous generals died out.
So no.

Anyone can recommend some good zines related to cyb /cyb/ and /sec/

So far I only have found Interesting Times, Lainzine and HacktThisZine.

Any other current or not so old ones worth checking out?

>>61274347
>expecting a /g/ project to go anywhere but fail

>>61289650
Phrack:
>http://www.phrack.org/
It is pretty famous, I'm surprised you haven't heard of it.

How is /cyb/+/sec/ culture? How do I get into it?
I've only ever been exposed to cancerous web dev startup culture. I don't know what the infosec community is like.

>>61289662
That must have really slipped under my radar.
Thanks a bunch!

>>61266922
>>61267086
https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/291773195/Student-Manual-For-The-Art-Of-Electronics-pdf

2nd. Ed. tho.. WHEN I find the 3rd Ed. I will post link. it may be a while, tho. in the meantime, have this little known gem from Forrest Mims. highly recommended for those wanting to learn electronics by getting your hands dirty.

http://www.qsl.net/k/kb1uif/downloads/Docs/Tutorials/2800280_P1_PM_EN.pdf

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>>61289675
Mamma Mia! Read the pasta, pezzo di merda!

>>61289693
You're welcome.
Happy reading.

>>61289701
>https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/291773195/Student-Manual-For-The-Art-Of-Electronics-pdf
Thank you for trying, this is the one I keep finding (in place of) the 3rd edition accompaniment on Library Genesis.
I really don't understand how it has gone unscanned for so long.
As this point, I'm considering buying it and uploading it myself for the sake of the community.

>www.qsl.net/k/kb1uif/downloads/Docs/Tutorials/2800280_P1_PM_EN.pdf
What a truly excellent book, thank you for the recommendation.

>>61274388
At what point should one dive into SICP (or any other theoretical CS/functional programming book)?

Slowing down again.

>>61290455
Does the thread have to be updated every 10 minutes?

>>61290735
Yes.

>>61290455
wasnt even close to page 10, pls

>>61290006

here's another Mims book aimed at beginners in learning electronics.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5jcnBPSPWQyaTU1OW5NbVJQNW8/edit

what are some good cyb and or sec video games?

>>61290796
Sorry... but I don't see any moderator title in your post?
So, who put you in charge of bump-to-page ratio?

>>61291377
>you didnt post with capcode so you cant have an opinion
nice opinion faggot

>>61266688

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:488eb9134190440bbf1e77929754321c85a24c72&dn=The+All-Embracing+Library&tr=udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80&tr=udp://open.demonii.com:1337

177.96GB worth of books

>>61291556
Oh, no, you can have an opinion, I didn't say you couldn't.
However, what I did say was that your opinion holds no authority.
Might want to work on that reading comprehension, buddy.

>>61291834
These are some great books.

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>>61291834
>HELLO, yes, READ ME FIRST.txt
>SECURITY TIPS in order of difficulty

>>61291363
yoooooo

>>61265322
Could you guys tell me the best malware removal program. I'm thinking about buying MB.

>>61291363
deus ex, system shock 2

>>61289650
Loads of old but still interesting zines in the FTP site under Cyberpunk, see >>61275669

Password is guest or password, not sure which.

>>61292727
>>deus ex, system shock 2
Actually were on sale this summer. Got them both.

>>61292659
If you only need to clean your computer then install a trial version of any popular AV soft and uninstall after the job is done. There's no point in buying soft for one time use when trials have full features.

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>>61292225
>Implying...

>Graduate from cyber security degree with first class honours from a reputable university.
>Starting salary £20k for graduates

What did the UK mean by this?
Should I just move to another country?

>>61293297
>UK
Yeah.

>>61293297
>What did they mean by this?
You will soon realise, just like high school, not one single person gives a flying fuck what your passing score was. If a guy with a 2.1 gpa who has a year of experience comes in against you with your 5.0 perfect gpa, guess whose getting the job?

>>61288023
I will invent words for this exact reason.

>>61265541
Just woke up brother.

I will take a look at the last thread and get back to you. If anyone else left me any questions I will get to those as well.

>>61292062
you need to go back

>>61294243
>go back
To where?

>>61286565
Sorry...I haven't found another channel like n-o-d-e yet.

>>61265541
I didn't realize this is the same thread as yesterday (awesome!). I think I may have already answered your question; if I haven't, please feel free post it again.

>>61294313
Hey maderas, what have been your best/worst experiences when physically breaking into places?

>>61294266
to reddit of course
and stop getting dubs ffs

>>61294313
n-o-d-e would be better without the youtube part prove me wrong


what has been your best larping experience?

>>61294349
>Reddit
I've never even posted on Reddit, why would I return there?
I think you should return to >>>/trash/ though.

>>61294367
>off by one
tables have turned my friend

you're a big fag

>>61294079
Sure? it is a couple of years since I lived in the UK but grades sure used to count. A lot. Especially for your first job after graduation, And £20k isn't that much, especially if you have to live in or near London.

That fist line suggests a .go.uk job which means you need clearance.

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>>61294388
>dubs
N-no... w-why...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWQeMN6ydCY

>>61294407
My plan has and always will be:
>Get degree
>Move to 'Murica
>Fuck yeah!
>???????
>Profit

>>61294407
>gov jobs
Aren't the wages even worse?

Do core 2 quads q6600 and q8200 have botnet inside?

>>61294136
Bruss that's me with the top gun question. I told you I was spamming you.

>>61294465
That salary seems pretty bad already.

I it is Malvern I guess it would be reasonably low cost of living. London is very, very expensive.

Mind you, the British authorities considers tech dudes even more expendable than the Americans do. Your retirement plan might be paid in lead.

I still remember a British reporter, obviously under a D-message, stating with the unique British wryness that the the deceased had committed suicide by shooting himself 3 times in the head. Never have I seen someone hint so much in so few words.

CS degree or a degree in Computer Networking?
My local CC offers so many fucking things for networking, even classes for certs. Naturally I'm interested in that. But if I were to go with CS I'd have to look for another college that offers a transfer degree in that major because I would love to go to a uni for that.
Just asking for advice since I really want to break into the sec field, and soon because the fall semester is coming up.

>>61294449
Are you cyber? Then good luck. You're going to struggle to get a security clearance because you're English. I'm in Aus and my linage brought up red flags for my clearance, and I've never left the fucking country, let alone migrated across the sea like you want to.

>>61294407
I am sure in the way that I have been out of uni for 4 years now and not a single interviewer has ever asked about my gpa or how uni was. They all want experience for the job and that's all. I could have a degree in crackpottery for all they cared, they just wanted me to have skills.

>>61294672
>Are you cyber?
What a lovely way to treat their allies, don't you think?

>>61294786
get a green card

>>61269442
Lets all love Lain.

>>61265322
If I libreboot a Gigabyte GA-G41M-ES2L motherboard can I install a core 2 quad Q6600 instead of a core 2 duo and have it still work properly?

>>61294886
she's a slut

>>61294653
>community college
might as well kys

>>61294918
pls no bully
thats why I want to transfer if I go with cs

>>61271771
yeah i knew about that, that;s why i was saying the thing about random pdfs.

>>61294786
Allies don't mean loyalty. That's what they want, you to be loyal to THEM, not to go back to your home country with secrets

>>61294346
I have never been involved in a red team engagement where we were allowed to break into a client' facility after hours.

However, I grew up and live in a city with one of the highest crime rates in the nation, one of the highest rates of unemployment for most of my life, and which is also believed to have one of the highest populations of opiate abusers vs. total population in the world.

I have or had a few childhood friends who as adult excelled in B&E into businesses.They weren't drug abusers or they would have been caught sooner(junkies have no patience). They never did residential jobs due to philosophical reasons & payout vs. % of gun ownership in my area; some of them pulled off some stuff that amazed me to the same degree that it disgusted me.

My study and their experiences strongly point at research, preparation, confidence, speed (celerity, not the drug),study and not shitting where you sleep as being the key contributors.
Fortunately, most of these people have gone straight in the last 5-10 years (or died); Many of the most "succesful" made good use of services like Google Earth and digital recon very much like what you would use in preparing a phishing or other social media campaign combined with physical recon.

As I said, I try to learn fro every source I can.

>>61294346

I like the n-o-d-e Youtube segments...they are quick, the information takes center stage. not the personality. and the production aesthetic is nice (not overdone, not jarring).

While I have some huge issues with Google, sometimes you need to use a shit platform to get your message across.

I have never larped (though I hadfriends who have), though I have played pen&paper RPGs when I was younger(D&D 2nd/3rd edition, WHite Wolf 2nd edition, but no Cyberpunk or Rifts sadly).

*social engineering campaign

>>61295602
What are the possible legal repercussions on people doing B&E? Considering you don't kill anyone.

Also I really like redteaming but I feel I'd get caught too often since I pretty much look like a russian dude. Decently fit and average height though. Can lie really well.

>>61295735
The reprecussions really dpend on so many factors...in the US (to my knowledge), there is a huge difference penalty wise between B&E during the daylight and evening.

Also, theft over $250 dollars is a felony...it really depends on the prosecutor as well. SOme of them can get creative with application of laws/circumstances with nailing an ass to the wall.

Many times in a red team engagement each person on your team has a specific role. Many times you may send a specialist into the facility while the remainder of you may be working from the parking lot or an adjacent building.

I also stick out a bit, so I am not a good choice for physical infiltration. However, I worked for years in telemarketing/custom service before getting into InfoSec/NetSec, so I may pick up the phone if necssary.

Much of this business is making what you have work for you and consistently building on it and your weaknesses.

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How secure is Mint vs Ubuntu? I'm too much of an idiot to manage to get Clover Gentoo or Arch working right, and from what I heard Mint would probably work better on what I'm trying to put it on.

>>61295602
lainzine editor?

>>61295920
How big are red teams usually? Because maybe it's just me having lack of trust in others but I barely see it working with more than 3 or even maybe 3, without counting those that aren't physically there.

Also maybe appareance can be fixed a bit with proper clothing? I feel that when I wear suits I look like I'm from a russian mafia (people keep telling me that), but with a bit of a casual look it eases up quite a lot. Guess I'll have more than enough time for worrying about that in the future, since I'm still a huge scrub.

>>61295928
mint is a distro that provides it's own stuff on top of ubuntu which is on top of debian. they also blacklist some updates so it works.
at least if ubuntu does it, they have a team working on it, not some select devs. not sure who in their right mind would call mint secure.

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>>61296256
Cheers lad

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Why is the cyberpunk dystopian aesthetic so attractive?

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Where does the newborn go from here? The net is vast and infinite...

>>61296534
because it looks kewl
>tfw we will all be dead before we ever see a city like in your pic

>>61296669
Read the pasta.
Absorb the information interred within.
Read many books covering /sec/ and /cyb/ if you enjoy the latters aesthetic and real world implications.
Train hard in things such as electronics, programming, cybersecurity and the suchlike.
Also, don't forget to partake in martial arts, weapons, tactical and survival training.
You will need this to stop the governments and criminals infringing your rights.
And last, but not least?
Enjoy the future.

https://labs.rs/en/exploring-alternative-internets-and-unusual-forms-of-networking-in-havana/

sneakernets are /cyb/ right

>>61297001
>cod black ops image
lmao

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>>61287107
oo boy, thanks anon, will peruse. I always have my eye out for Monasteries out in the cold digital infoplanes of the internet.

Much appreciated.

>>61294653
How about you grow up and teach yourself?

>>61297001
that is a fascinating read. Thanks for sharing.

What's /sec/'s personal choice of distro?

>>61297919
since you didnt give a use case imma go with alpine
its light
secure
easy to get running on all manner of shit

>>61265322
Hey OP, look at what >>61297001 posted. the main site is the definition of what cyberpunk is right now. I think. its worth adding to the pasta.
take a look and see if you agree.

>>61298024
I disagree, not worth adding to OP
very little actual cyb or sec shit that I saw, hence why I linked only the article and not the site
which posts in particular do you think are cyberpunk?

>>61297971
Was considering Alpine. Thank you for replying.

how early is too early for linecon? asking for a friend

>>61297919
debian 9 and before that was running archlinux

>>61298131
go the day after desu

>>61297919
I have what is called a net install of Devuan on my main computer and my notebook and use armbian on my SBC. However I want to install Source Mage on my new thinkpad for tinkering and set it to be the machine I need, porting applications like I always wanted but other distros make difficult, is a super interesting system.

>>61298300
>>61298144
Thank you for replying. Will consider your choices.

>>61298084
I just started reading the Facebook article. I realise its a dry and long read, but it discusses the use of algorithms to exploit its users, the internal hierarchy, and its (ab)use of power, censorship, and more. even if you don't add it, I thank you for sharing it.

have this as a thank you. this is my second book link contribution, and am working on something else for your efforts in keeping these threads going.

http://itebooks.directory/

>>61286121
comfy. would it take just as long with a laptop with better hardware or does it not matter?

>>61295928
Can someone please tell me where this gif is from?

>>61298426
Hang on, noticed an issue, I forgot the link to this thread.
I'll re-up in a sec.

>>61298457
Put 00sec blog in the OP too breh

>>61298457
You had one job

>>61298467
It is, isn't it?
I think it is in the /sec/ resources?

>>61298480
>>61298446
>>61298408
>>61298339
>>61298326
>>61298300
>>61298195
The thread is dead, long live the thread: >>61298527

>>61298467
It is in:
>https://pastebin.com/NaUPUDF0
>↓
>Cybersecurity resources:
>↓
>Shared thoughts after 6+ years in Pentesting (http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/61194248#p61211017): https://0x00sec.org/t/shared-thoughts-after-6-years-in-pentesting/2492

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Wasn't in the one you made then deleted, wasn't sure if you put an old pasta in or something

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Oh, fair enough.
The resource is a mixture of old and new pasta.

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The future is VR, AR, MR, and other wearable computing stuffs on our heads. If Jepson can do what she claims she'll do, then it's certainly going to make it into those devices, and everyone's going to have them.

In fact, someone very similar to her with a very similar background is working at Oculus/Facebook on an almost exact same kind of project, but doing it in the context of VR/AR, and fast tracking it into consumer device possibility in a few years time apparently. She also worked at Google once, with some overlapping time with Jepson. And previously she led DARPA, so you have a good idea how hardcore the development plan will be.

https://www.recode.net/2017/4/19/15361568/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-brain-mind-reader-regina-dugan-building-f8

>Dugan says Facebook’s goal is to create technology that could autonomously type 100 words per minute based on a person’s thoughts “in a few years.”

If it actually works well and it goes into a product that Oculus is planning to do in several years, say a headset that might have a chance at going mainstream with at least the gamer crowd, then we're going to get mind reading devices on a lot of people's heads.