>police break in >freeze your ram >get the encryption

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>>61259191
Have fun with that 128 bit AES

>>61259257
They will hold you in jail until you give them the password.

I have nothing to hide :)

>>61259267
The keyfile was initalized in the silicon using a random value at boot.

>>61259291
I'm sure the jury will sympathize

>>61259267
Good thing I don't live in a 3rd world country.

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>>61259191
YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN MY FINAL FORM

They open the door, I pull the power, there is a case lock, no time to freeze RAM.

Keyfile is on USB, password is never revealed. They can't get in.

Even if they manage to get the FDE key. My personal stuff, tax records and the like are stored in veracrypt containers, plausible deniability for the win.

Just imagine the forensics guys going through TBs of doujinshi. Then they get to the eroge.

>>61259664
>"umm sir I have to copy this material over to a USB and bring it home for fap... further analyzing"

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>>61259291
>>61259556
so you guys don't want to cooperate?
It's off to Gitmo for you

>>61259452

I've got nothing to hide, but I'd like to do this anyway.

>>61259684
> I don't live in a 3rd world country (USA included)

>>61259674

It's a open secret that FBI and other pedo hunters are actually just building the largest collection for themselves.

>not having a decoy encryption key giving access to only irrelevant social network shit
while the real thing is hidden in an SD card stashed in a portrait frame left in your attic, and encrypted with an algorithm you made yourself
A S K E D F O R I T

>>61259698
>a open secret
dumbass

>>61259275
a crime can always be found to fit your profile, fellow based american

>>61259191
>freeze ram
is that possible?

Do you think FBI likes traps?

>>61259774
yes. its called cold boot attack

>>61259698
Anyone else looking forward to the day long after CP is decriminalized when the FBI releases their archive to the public?

>>61259191
Laugh because I'm not in 'merica

>>61259793
T-minus never.

>>61259793
Who cares about *merica?

>>61259793
No because, I'm not attracted to minors.

Send me more MILF porn.

>police break in
>i open my phone and hit the panic button which activates a power interrupt for the PSU and fires high intensity lasers at each ram chip

GOOD LUCK BOYS

>>61259888
How can I make one?

>>61259664
As a former forensic tech this hits a bit too close to home

nothing to hide nothing to fear :^]

>>61259728
>Algorithm you made yourself

enjoy getting cracked in 2.5 seconds

>>61259862
MILF stuff is fine, but most doujin artists depict women over 30 as having gigantic cow tits. On the other hand, if a character has small tits then it could be considered lolicon in the US, which is highly illegal.

>>61259191

Thermite killswitch.

>saving porn
I'm a lolicon so fuck that. It isn't CP but still illegal in my state.
I ain't no kid fucker but the normies wouldn't even hear me out, they just want an easy story so they'd just label me a pedo so they don't have to think outside the normie box

I hope they like TG manga

>>61260028
You're a lolicon? or you like lolicon?

>>61260054
>>61260028
loli doesn't hurt anyone. Why is it should be illegal?

>>61259191
My encryption keys are hidden inside my case. the moment they open the case, my liquid helium stops cooling the processor and it goes nuclear. Checkmate.

>>61259774
yeah, just throw it in the freezer

>>61260074
Because people don't know or want to take the time to see the difference between nudity and porn, so they just label everything with a child in it CP.

>>61260054
Lolicon= someone who faps to lolis
Not a pedo, specifically fantasized lolis that don't even look like real girls.
I know for a fact I'm not attracted to little girls in real life cause they're fucking nasty and bratty. Cute, but nasty and bratty.
But of course the normie agenda is in place, so it's either A: don't save porn ever or B: keep all my towers inside a wrought iron cage in one column and a thermite grenade on top.

>>61260028
>>61260074
Jeez, you should just stop existing and that way nobody would ever get hurt.

>>61259774
Theoretically, yes. Has it ever succeeded? Dunno. It might work against guys who don't know the first thing about computers and leave it turned on while being raided, but if they unplug the tower/remove battery from laptop at any moment and the RAM isn't frozen within like, a second, there isn't much that's gonna be preserved, if anything. Also no guarantee that any given keyfile is going to be stored in the RAM anyway, it all just depends. Dealing with encryption is always a massive bitch, but from what I've heard the courts have started making it just as big a deal to not comply or to have destroyed evidence. I've had to investigate and report on the likelihood that evidence has been tampered with; microwaved, degaussed, wiped, such and such. If we determined that this was the case, it'd lead to serious legal consequences. Although, you might dodge being put on a sex offender's registry so it could all come down to damage control.

Source: former forensic technician.

>>61260191
Can you save recover data that has been microwaved, degaussed or destroyed in such ways?

I heard you can't save data from hdd or ssd if they were oven'd.

>>61259968
Lolicon is not illegal in the USA, freedom of expression and all that, drawn CP is not considered child porn.

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>>61259191
Unfortunately my doujins are in another castle.
Thanks for trashing my workstation though.

>>61259452
source?

>>61259191
>police break in
>freeze your ram
For what purpose would they freeze RAM of unpowered computer?

>>61260312
Yes and no. When we were ordered to destroy hard drives, we had to do a triple-pass wipe, open the hard drive, and smash the internal platters till they were dust, then smash the internal controller board, and finally throw it all in a special shredder. When it comes to nuking or degaussing it really all depends on how long and how thorough. Degaussing is becoming less and less effective as platters become denser and denser, and to my knowledge SDDs are largely immune to the process. Microwaving would probably be more effective, but I wouldn't rely on it. I've seen some seriously fucked up hard drives get at least some data recovered, and I've had to sift through chunks of garbled hexadecimal to try and piece together exactly what kind of files were likely on there. The recovery guys were a different vendor than us; we'd outsource that kind of work to folks who had clean rooms. In short: remove the platters from existence just to make sure.

>>61260480
you're not always behind your computer?

>>61259968
t. Misinformed Canadian.
Also stop jerking off to children.

>>61259191
>implying I encrypt my collection of loli

>>61259191
If the police broke in, all I would have to do to get everything encrypted is unplug my laptop. The battery is completely shot. They plug it back in, and turn it on, and the encryption hits them full force.

Doesn't DDR3 prevent cold boot attacks because of how fast it is?

>>61260495
>cartoons= children
So you're perfectly okay with valuing drawings on the same level as the lives of and innocence of children, and then wasting resources on apprehending the individuals that masturbate to those drawings instead of real children?
That's fucked up anon

>>61260191
>Source: former forensic technician.
How does one get into this line of work?

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>>61260436
>trashing my workstation

>>61260492
Are you mentally retarded?
Secondly, even if they somehow could get access to my running computer when I'm not around then freezing RAM won't help them at all. My SSD is also encrypted via internal controller which is SoC. Have fun getting raw access to memory in this thing

Plus noone EVER is going to waste police resources on catching me downloading pirated gaymes, then """""breaking""""" the encryption just to make a lot of noise and alert real criminals to watch their asses. And if you believe anyone ever is going to do that to you you should take your pills, summer kid.

>>61260539
No, but RAM loses memory fast when it's hot, like 60 seconds and it's pretty much useless.

>>61260544
i kill people im video games
im sorry for being a murderer..see you in church gramps

>>61260566
I was making a NEET joke anon, don't take it that seriously. I don't actually believe freezing RAM would do any good.

>>61260547
I just got a job as an intern while in college, handling the MySQL inventory, basic C++ app development, evidence intake, lab maintenance, and shadowing the techs.They got short staffed and I started being asked to tackle some really basic case-work, did well in that, and then got my break by deliberately "stealing" a case from a junior investigator and completely blowing opposing out of the water. After that I got promoted and for 4 years I worked in a shitty lab with low pay and no benefits. Now back in school trying to get a degree because fucking nobody hires forensic techs without a degree no matter how experienced.

>milf/mother are the only tags I download
Enjoy the 50g I have with over a weekto read them all

>>61260191
That's one thing I don't understand. I get the courts can use your fingerprint to unlock something, but where do they get off detaining you indefinitely for not telling them your password. You have a right to silence, don't you?

>>61259664
That's what I plan to do.

You're going to jail me for something that isn't real? I'm going to make you fucking cry when you have to categorize hundreds of thousands of drawings.

>>61260490
Is there no way to destroy SSD completely?

>>61260677
Hammer

>>61260662
You do, but when there is a search warrant, you have to comply with it. You can't just not tell them the access to the safe, with safes they will just drill it open/break it, but with proper encryption and a good password that will take forever to bruteforce, so you are ordered to comply with a decrypted form of the data

>>61260677
Pretty sure a smelter would do it.

>>61260153
Wow, you really rebutted that viewpoint, chucklehead.

>>61260685
>>61260702

How about oven and torch?

>>61260692
"Prove that it's an encrypted file."

>>61260677
You just send TRIM command to it after removing all partitions. Data centers destroy drives just because they don't want to dedicate resources to zero them. Besides they treat such used hardware as already worn or dead.

>>61260692
Which, again, doesn't make sense to me. I don't have to speak and give them the combo to the safe, nor do I have to say anything else that could criminalize myself. Why on earth do they make an exception for encryption, and on what legal basis do they have the authority to except encryption?

I swear, I'm not trying to be willfully dense, but the entire concept makes zero sense to me when I interpret the 1st Amendment.

>>61260076
Ah I see you found good use for the new Intel i9 CPUs.

>>61260662
Legally they can detain you if they find you in contempt of court; so if they give you a court order to hand over your keys and you don't comply then you'll be held in contempt. That can lead to detainment and an added charge. If you try to be clever and tamper with the system at all you'll be found in contempt of court. That can lead to massive charges on top of the charges already posted against you. Ultimately, if you just don't comply, then you'll likely get jail time, but you might dodge a sex offenders' registry (although any employer/government agency could see the details of the case and de facto make you a sex offender). Not a lawyer, but every lawyer I've worked with has met this issue at some point. A lot of the older lawyers who aren't familiar with e-discovery tend to try and treat handing over passwords like it's a 5th amendment issue and end up running afoul of judges who are more than happy to slap their clients with contempt.

>>61260692
>murikan law
kek
enjoy your (((((freedom))))
in eastern european countries you don't have to provide ANY information that could lead to your conviction.

>>61260718
Could work. I mean there isn't much we can do to analyze flat-out slag.

>>61260740
FDE nigga, you boot your computer and it asks for you to decrypt it. No dodging around the issue.

>>61259452
that's a TV Channel from my country. Source?

>>61260672
Don't you already have it categorized yourself?

>>61260782
I wouldn't try to tamper with the system. But I don't know of any other situation where the courts have the right to force you to break silence except for encryption. I have every right to be silent on all things. If they can crack the encryption, they are welcome to, but I have no duty to assist any more than I have a duty to help them open my safe. The burden is on them.

>>61260811
What if I got my boot partition on removable usb drive?
They can't prove a simple partition visible as "RAW" is encrypted.

>>61259191
since this seems to be a cp discussion thread I guess I'll ask

has anyone heard anything recent from that guy on Freenet who's making a loli manga using only images from his real cp collection and then adding the text? it's been probably a year since I've heard anything

>>61260840
We assume that would be confiscated during the search warrant. You are either hiding it on your property, or on your person.

>>61260811
what if I changed the password prompt to "Press any key to continue" :^)

>>61260821
Not that kind of categorization.

Something like COPINE or whatever they use these days.

>>61260823
It's different from country to country. But if you are living in country where uses common law, You are forced to tell it.

>>61260850
I'm actually not into doing anything illegal, shy of an occasional torrented movie or album. I just believe that I have a right to privacy.

>>61260823
Court orders will tell you to actually open the search so the cops can see inside it.
Just like the court order for your house will force you to unlock/unbarricade the doors, you can not do it and they will usually just break them instead of holding you in contempt.

>>61260740
2ez. A cursory hexadecimal analysis is enough to show a drive is encrypted. If you're running any kind of filesystem it should have specific headers and a pattern in the hexcode. Any given file has headers and a pattern. Deviation from that could either be corruption or encryption, but encryption is typically more obvious. Corruption tends to have size discrepancies and glaring oddities like size discrepancies and functional failures. An encrypted drive usually trigger a "this drive will need to be wiped" prompt, as well.

>>61260875
>I just believe that I have a right to privacy.

.t Child molester/terrorist who hasn't had the opportunity yet.

>>61259191
>freeze your ram
What?

>>61260855
still, they can't prove this removable usb drive is meant for this particular computer. What if you got two, one being a 100% clean encrypted system just meant to be given to the police?
They can't prove this usb disk also acts as boot partition for the other system.

>>61260850
This is not a CP thread you sick fuck, you would be better of asking about the pedo, on Freenet and not 4chan.

>>61260544
I'm assuming you also look at real cp. You don't have to deny it.

>>61260850
holy shit dude that's fucking wild if true

Where/How can I learn forensic skills?
I want to master forensic skills just for lulz

>>61260892
google cold boot attack

>>61260898
I'm assuming people who play games like GTA also kill people as well. They don't have to deny it.

>>61260879
This too, but it's become trickier legally. San Bernardino is a prime example of the stickiness that encryption causes in the courts. I will say though, side-channel attacks and chip-off cloning have come a looooooooooonnnng way.

>>61260894
You could by looking at the boot mediums unencrypted partition table and match the UUIDs to the harddrives.

Secondly they can always try both.

Your best using FDE to stop theft, and something like veracrypt hidden volume containers to store sensitive files.

>>61260879
>you can not do it and they will usually just break them instead of holding you in contempt.

That's the point. I have no duty to assist them, but then they have the right to use all tools at their disposal to access what they have the right to access. If they want to break the encryption using their own tools, that's fine, but I don't see any other situation where I have to help them with their search warrant. I see ample evidence where I have no right to hinder them, but I don't see how one could see encryption as a hindrance any more than a locked door. The fact that they don't have the tools to break encryption isn't my problem.

>>61260677

Thermite works well on conventional platters but coverage needs to be complete.

It'd be even easier for an SSD because of how small those chips are.

>>61260940
Because your court order tells you, you have to follow the court order.

Just like if you had a system where you are hiding a physical book in a safe that's protected by biometrics, you have to open it for the cops.

You are not incriminating yourself, because this information already exists regardless if you help them or not. Your reveal of the password/access to the safe is not a testimony, thus not protected by the 5th amendment.

Your better off saying you forgot your password.

>>61260940
Yeah, this is essentially the controversy surrounding San Bernardino in a nutshell. Apple didn't assist but the FBI was still able to get in to the shooter's iPhones, so it essentially kicked the proverbial can down the road. Eventually American law is going to need to figure out the nuances of how encrypted devices are handled in court. Right now it's basically boiled down to a 5th amendment, 4th amendment, and intellectual property dispute.

>>61260933
>and match the UUIDs to the harddrives.
Well, that's valid in case of linux and dm-crypt for sure. But if you encrypt non-system partition with TC/VC it doesn't have an UUID. It's just a bunch of "random" data.

>>61260992
>Your better off saying you forgot your password.
What's the consequence of that, out of curiosity?

>>61260992
if they have a court order then you were fucked already whether or not you assist them
If they don't have a court order, then there is no proofs

>>61259191
> Tfw unencrypted ShotaxKemono doujins just hanging around in my pictures folder.
I just use them for reference, lawbros.
Besides, I'm pretty sure no one gives a shit about drawings in my jungle country, so I'm fine.

*unzips katana*
heh, you should have brought more cops.
*teleports behind them*

>>61260992
t. lazy cop trying to do as little work as possible for his meager pension

>>61261010
If they don't have a court order they should not be taking your computer, and you would argue that in court before they are even allowed to ask for the password.

>>61260992
I thought you didn't have to open the safe. You just can't keep the cops from accessing the safe, and, if you don't unlock it for them, they have the right to destroy the safe to get to the contents inside.

>>61261008
depends on the state and luck
unless we're talking about cuckistan (UK)

>>61261033
and thus by not providing the password, you are stopping the cops from opening your FDE computer.

>>61261050
>>61261008
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_law

>>61260918
Not the same. People who specifically and sexually enjoy the killing aspect of gta are often also into irl guro. It's a loooong leap from looking to doing however. I wouldn't assume you diddle kids, but I do assume you'd enjoy cp tailored towards lolicons.

>>61261025
I've had a cop demand to see my phone before. I handed to him, but I refused to give him the password, and I always have my iPhone freshly rebooted whenever I'm not actively using it. I can still call my lawyer without unlocking it if needed, as I have the number in my emergency contacts.

>>61261051
nice logic you got there.
Too bad the government also uses this "logic" in western countries.

What if you genuinely forget the password? What if you encrypted your hdd with random generated password 3 years ago without remembering it and it was running with uptime of 3 years before it was seized by the police?
Oh look, nobody gives a shit about that, right?
Doesn't sound like justice to me.

>>61261051
No, I've handed them the device, and made no attempts to destroy or hide it. The burden of unlocking something, if I don't wish to help them, is on them in pretty much every other situation. For some reason, they consider encryption to be the exception, and I just can not imagine anyone interpreting the intentions of the authors of the US Constitution into thinking that there should be any sort of exception.

>>61261078
cop demands a search, you just consented.

>>61259924
Code it in android studio duh

>>61261067
>Poland
In relatively few known cases in which police or prosecutor requested cryptographic keys from those formally accused and these requests were not fulfilled, no further consequences were imposed on the accused. There's no specific law in this matter, as e.g. in the UK. It is generally assumed that the Polish Criminal Procedure Code (Kodeks Postępowania Karnego Dz.U. 1997 nr 89 poz. 555.) provides means of protecting against self-incrimination, including lack of penalization for refusing to answer any question which would enable law enforcement agencies to obtain access to potential evidence, which could be used against testifying person.
>provides means of protecting against self-incrimination,

>tfw even 3rd world countries have better law than murica

>>61261099
Yea, it sucks there problems in a justice system.

People get off on murder too...

>>61260009
My friend Ramzi showed me this once (he is leet hacker).

>>61261104
I wasn't arrested for refusing him access to the phone. He had no idea what was on it (literally nothing, I just value my privacy).

>>61259728
>Not using proven algos that have had eyes on them for plenty of time

ishygddt

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not fucked at all because:

1. don't encrypt
2. don't have any cp/anime shit on my pc

>mfw I'm not a freak like you so I don't have to worry about cp/etc.

>>61260863
Thanks, this is now on your file.

>>61260840
>>61261005
Yeah, that'd be clever, and courts hate "clever." Just because it looks all garbled and random in hexcode doesn't mean anything; if it's got data and it's garbled, it's either encrypted or corrupted, encryption being more obvious than corruption. You're just making a bigger headache for the technician because now he's gotta rule out corruption, but once that's done we'd figure out the drive was encrypted. If you, for whatever reason, went and got two FDE drives and one turned out to be blank, you're just pissing the courts off even more and you'd get schwacked with a court order for your actual drive. Once we got that, and we'd discovered that you've done something with the boot partition, you'd get slapped again for being a cheeky cunt and order you to hand over whatever medium you were using as the boot partition.

>>61261005
What's how many bits is the encryption for dm-crypt?

>>61260898
>I look at loli do I look at cp
Christ Olympic long jumpers could make leaps of logic that wide
Have you ever seen loli? It is NOTHING like real CP, which is 100% rape.

>>61261099
If you honestly forgot your password then there isn't much anyone can do. It all depends on the circumstances; if the case is a serious one then we could theoretically just clone the hard drive a couple hundred times and run brute force attacks on each one until one works. Otherwise, if it's some random three year old drive that you haven't used in ages and the courts feel like they'll get what they need off your current drive, they might decide it's not worth it. Companies are a different matter. A CIO can get into massively deep shit if he doesn't keep track of computer passwords to comply with things like audits and such. Like, felony-level shit.

>>61261240
0-512
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Device_encryption#Encryption_options_with_dm-crypt

>>61261207
>and courts hate "clever."
So I'm supposed to self-incriminate myself just because my lord (court) told me so?
Wew lads, you're the definition of cuckoldry. Off yourselves.
And in normal countries you have to PROVE that a bunch of zeros and ones is encrypted. You can't just assume it is.

also
>not having the law that protects your against self-incrimination
Enjoy living in commie state my dude.

>>61259191
jokes on them I don't even own a computer I just shitpost on g with my chinkphone, and every little info I have is stored in my all-knowing semi-autistic brain (the kind that stores a shitload of info without ever forgetting it)

>>61261267
Basically this.

Fucking love loli.

I remember when faggots used to spam CP back on 4chan way back when. Reported that shit like the fucking cancer that it is.

>>61261099
>>61261269
Same guy:
There's also specialists in side-channel attacks that could theoretically get past your FDE. It all just depends.

What OSes have been tested in court? Is LUKS safe? What about openbsd's implementation?

Why is it that when these /fucko/ threads show up, everyone always throws the CP conversation around, what about hiding bitcoin from the tax man, or proof of you hacking sites?

I think it's funny that /g/ has more insults about getting busted for CP, than getting busted being a hackerman.

>>61261297
We do, it's called the 5th amendment. Encryption is fast becoming a major conversation point in legal circles regarding in regards to that. As I mentioned before, just look at the shitshow that was San Bernardino. In the end Apple never complied with the FBI, but the FBI got gud so nothing was resolved legally.

>>61261319
I store my banking creds in a VeraCrypt file.

>>61261297
You are clearly not a lawyer, and your ignorance will be your downfall.

It doesn't matter how it should be, or what an ideal world is like.

And the end of the day if you go defending yourself you will look like an idiot in court, and probably end up in jail.

>>61261331
rip

>>61261278
>0-bit encryption is offered
Why? What's the point of that?

Well, Britfags shouldn't have to worry.

It won't be long before they ban encryption like the fucking inbred vermin that they are.

>>61261319
Well, there are a lot more court cases for computer crimes involving child porn involving encryption. Not that anyone ever brings them up as examples.

>>61261356
Sooner or later we'll be in the age of quantum computing and at least for a while security will be a thing of fond memories past.

>>61261356
To me, that seems as silly as banning firearms. Pandora's box has been opened. It's not like you can make people forget how to do it.

>>61261371
Until someone uses quantum computing to make a new password generator for something like keepass.

>>61261343
We may never know, anon.

>>61261387
>To me, that seems as silly as banning firearms.

Firearms are already illegal there. Though admittedly that's why they have knife crime.

>>61261387
I seriously wonder how quantum computing would look. I mean technically since a qbit is a bit^2, would that make a quantum SHA256 SHA256^2?

>>61261343
Instead of encrypting, it makes data more legible.

>>61261327
So you have to self-incriminate yourself or not?
If court can legally put you into jail because you remain silent while being a defendant it clearly means you're living in commie land. It's that simple.
>>61261334
Where did I say otherwise you stupid retard?
All I said is you're living in commie land. Because you do.
Even in fucking pooland there was NEVER a case where someone was locked up in jail because he refused to self-incriminate himself.

>>61261401
You can literally make a shotgun with 20 dollars at Lowe's. People have literally made working firearms while in prison, with limited supplies and near constant monitoring. "Banning" firearms doesn't ban the knowledge of how to make them. Don't expect immigrants who want to wage Jihad to stay ignorant of English instructions on google forever.

>>61260868
For example, In South Korea, It is legal to not tell the password. (2007노929)

But In Britain, It is illegal.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_law

>>61261421
Or it could just mean you're being an idiot. Just because you remove the slide you shot a man with doesn't mean that you're not gonna be in deep shit. And again, it wouldn't take long at all to figure out what you've proposed, it'd just be annoying for everyone involved and you'd be detained anyway after the fact. I can't say 100% that you'd be detained initially, but if you've encrypted your system and thrown out the boot partition why wouldn't the courts hold you in contempt?

If there's piles of evidence against you in any other case, and you plead the 5th, the court's gonna rule however it feels fit. If there's enough evidence they'll slap you with criminal charges anyway, and if you've got a vindictive judge he could slap contempt of court on top of the charges.

Protip: just don't look at CP and you'll be fine, anon.

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>freeze my RAM
I have hyper gamer™®© RAM GDDR5 overclocked to 69 GHz. It runs at ABSLOUTE HEAT.
Good luck freezing it while I play Overwatch. 8•)

>>61261267
It's not really a huge leap. It's more like a degeneracy slide. Furfags at least have an argument because their art is anthro and depicts intelligent animals, but loli is a pretty good (though idealized) analogue to actual children.

>>61261466
>But In Britain, It is illegal.

In Britain, virtually everything is illegal. It's a country that banned female ejaculation ffs.

>>61261421
Think about it, anon. If you plead the 5th to not turn over your encryption key, on an investigation into whether or not you've got CP, that's also basically like admitting to having CP on your computer and the jury is likely going to vote as such.

>>61259257
>>freeze your ram
>>get the encryption keys to your doujins
What do you not understand ?

>>61261476
If the court can't prove you have illegal data it can't lock you up in jail. If it does that anyway it's breaking the law.
Logs from definition aren't proof, just like handwritten piece of paper written by unknown person that says "You're guilty, faggot"
And again, the fact that american courts are ignoring 5th am without any repercussions is a fucking scandal and it makes your country a shithole and a police state. Enjoy it.
Now read what I wrote and point the part you don't agree with. Use actual arguments.

>>61261511
>that's also basically like admitting to having CP on your computer

You can't decide someone is guilty without it being proven in court first.

>>61261511
I don't have to plead the 5th. I can remain silent.
In normal countries.

Do american courts assume that I'm guilty because I decided to remain silent? Lmao

>>61260692
>make encryption file for fun, containing basically nothing, leave it on your computer but forget about it
>ten years later, say something mean about the president
>get thrown in guantanamo bay for forgetting a password

>>61261539
"Pleading the 5th" is pleading the right to remain silent in the US. The dude who you are responding to is an idiot. "Innocent until proven guilty" means that remaining silent means you neither confirm nor deny the accusations. Silence does not imply guilt in the US.

>>61261495
I think what REALLY separates CP from loli is that generally lolis are depicted as intelligent, mature, and knowledgeable of what sex is.
This is NOT real life whatsoever. Children cannot consent because they don't know what sex is, and they aren't mature enough to handle it.

>>61261576
>'murica
believe it or not but murican military is legally allowed to forcefully make people confess in gitmo. Same standards as soviet were/are using.

>>61261525
Not sure what you're not understanding here. By the time you're actually in court, there's already charges pressed against you. They've got a court order based on existing evidence to arrest you; this means that they already have a reason to put you there. They don't just come strolling into every neckbeard's moms' house and grab you from her basement, they need a bonafide arrest warrant first. Not complying with court orders at that point isn't going to let you go free, it's just going to get you into more hot water.

And besides this is all relative. Currently there isn't a law to my knowledge that forces you to do anything. You don't HAVE to hand over your encryption key in the face of a court order, but the judge at that point is well within his rights to imprison you for violating a subpoena.

Welcome to a country with actual laws and a low tolerance for criminal bullshit, Haji.

>>61260756
TRIM is very effective but won't work on damaged sectors, which could still be recoverable. Also it's not designed as a secure erase feature, so there is no guarantee that everything will be wiped.

>>61261584
>"Pleading the 5th" is pleading the right to remain silent in the US.
oh well, thanks for pointing that out. Now I feel stupid

>>61261495
t. trying really fucking hard to pretend that drawings = kids.

>>61261595
I love people talk like is Americans are okay with this shit.
90% of our population despises the feds and even state/local governments.
We are NOT okay with this, this happens all behind closed doors.

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>>61259191
Solution

>>61261593
the biggest difference is one is drawn and one is real how far away from reality are you

>>61261537
It all comes down to what the jury thinks, ultimately. If you're pleading the 5th when there's already evidence against you, there's a good chance you're gonna get a criminal sentence of some kind. It might not be as bad as a full on sex-offense, but the added charges for being a smartass with the courts is just gonna tack on more time with your cell mate Big Dick Rick.

>>61261605
Define damaged sector.
If a sector is marked as worn it's moved to reserved space and zeroed. If it's really damaged then you won't be able to read it anyway.
Unless it's just marked as damaged and it's still intact, which is EXTREMELY rare case, well, it's still just a one sector. What kind of usable data can you find there?

>>61261604
>Not complying with court orders at that point isn't going to let you go free, it's just going to get you into more hot water.

Neither would complying with said orders. So really, nothing to lose at that point.

>>61261610
You don't live in the US. I don't expect you to memorize our constitutional protections, unless you plan on visiting. It's entirely understandable. But yeah, pleading the 5th in court is pleading the US Constitutional 5th Amendment: the right to not self incriminate.

>>61261634
That's what I was trying to say.
Loli is not CP

>>61261632
What's funny about this is that if two officers in blue just walked up and knocked it'd have been fine.

>>61261522
Thermite loads below each motherboard.

>>61261651
"Are you those hookers I ordered?"

>>61261625
Then why don't you protest? Why most of your population still votes for the same cucks all the time?
Let's face it, murikan government cares only about their interest. If it means to nuke rest of the world - as long as it's in their interest they won't hesitate. And you vote for these people.

>>61261625
>hate the government
>still vote for the same parties every time
great job burgers

>>61259191
>tfw encrypted RAM on the fly
thanks AMD

>>61261595
The people the do that to are not on US territory, and are not US citizens.

I agree it's immoral as fuck, but that's the legal loophole. Technically, any country could do the same. Also, I'd take it over the Canadian government giving tens of millions of dollars to a Jihadist who killed one US soldier, and maimed another.

>>61261640
It all just depends. If you don't comply and settle for a contempt of court charge you're still not off the hook. I imagine in a case like CP, where actual children could be at risk, not complying with that particular subpoena would result in quite serious consequences. I'm still not sure if you'd get banged on a sex violation, though, or how that works. Either way it's not a happy ending for you.

>>61259291
How would you unlock after a reboot then? Just don't reboot? They'd figure how to keep it on while they move it. Or just use your UPS.

>>61260472
>>61260820
The 15M terrorists

>>61261668
>>61261678
Not denying this shit either.
But unfortunately the normies have perpetuated this ideal of comfort over freedom for the longest time.
Our country used to be about making your own way with your own effort, now it's about fuck everyone else and self indulgence.

>>61261717
Not worried about sex charges. I'm just fascinated at how the courts interpret the Constitution, written by men who quite obviously hate government intrusion.

>>61261593
I thought the whole innocence and "what are we going to do on the bed?" shit was part of the allure.

>>61261616
No I'm not. Are you seriously this defensive about it?
Drawings != Kids, and if you can seriously stick to only art then you're good imo, but stop denying that a large percentage of lolicons fap to cp too. There's a pile of cases where someone was investigated over loli, and lo and behold: They had straight up cp too.

>>61261733
It's a very messy subject, for sure. The issue of encryption will likely remain as is, such that the courts can't permanently imprison you until you hand it over. More than anything I see folks at the FBI and DOJ just getting good and coming up with more advanced techniques to break encryption, and then black-filing the techniques from the public. For example, there's currently no law to force the Feds to turn over any exploitations they might find in devices like cell phones.

As for the punishment for violating a subpoena for encryption keys, it's hard to say, and again it probably all has to do with the nuances of each individual case. If the court has significant evidence to prove that someone's running, lets say, a human trafficking ring, and believe that his computer was used to contact potential customers, I imagine there would be some very serious consequences and ample resources pooled into getting past that encryption. For some weeb with loli saved on his computer? Hard to say.

>>61261715
I understand everything you say. So this gives me moral grounds to hate american government, right?
Should I expect hellfire strike on me?

>>61261731
It's the fucking cities. Anyone living in a city is basically brainwashed by groupthink to elect the most corrupt person available, and pretend it's for safety, or social justice.

>>61261842
You have the right to your own opinions/beliefs. Doesn't mean you have the right to take action that would harm others or their property because of those opinions/beliefs.

>>61259191
You should know that new RAM will vaporize the contents in a few seconds after reboot, that's simply unpractical to defeat it like that.

>>61260191
It does succeed, even on Android phones.

https://www1.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/frost

>>61261861
Really? I thought I don't have any rights as I'm not a US citizen.
I'm I even considered human?

>>61260761
There is no such exception, it's a hit or miss, it depends how good your lawyer is and your situation, research more.

>>61261886
Am I*

>>61259966
>>61259966
you could put AES-256 under it, this would just make it look more like corrupted data.

>>61261668
>why don't you protest?
PEOPLE FUCKING DO EVERYDAY
Unfortunately all the major mass media is bought out and everyone's too lazy focus on the corruption.
The only thing that can get anything done fast is a second civil war, and no one wants that.
Fixing our government without violence is gonna be a slow process, and if it's gonna get done how about you quit being a back seat driver and help out.
Unless you just want my country to be your personal scape goat so you have something to point your finger and yell at it.

>>61261886
Human? Yes. A US citizen or on US territory? Highly dependent on your situation.

Do I care that you hate my government? Not really. Not enough to even bother asking why. I'm not particularly thrilled with it, either, but even if they were doing everything that I think they should be doing, you'd likely hate them just as much, if not more.

>>61259191
>police break in
Not without a warrant they won't, but I don't live in burger

>>61261886
Yes, you're considered human. And humans can be massively dangerous to other humans. So if you're going to go and say, blow people up or run them over with a bus, yeah, you can reasonably expect to get good and fucked. Nobody says you have to love us, we don't care. Most of us don't even love the Fed at any given time.

>>61261928
So you don't care about the fact that people you elect kill entire non-US innocent families just because it's in their interest and "they don't have rights".
Which morally makes you also responsible for murder. So you shouldn't be surprised by goatfuckers going into your country and killing US citizens.

Hopefully as a yuropoor I shouldn't expect being killed by your military. Not for now at least.

>>61261914
Ehhhhh. Maybe? It'd be weird to see every sector on every partition being completely corrupted though, and encryption typically has noticeable patterns. A forensics tech would likely smell bullshit.

>>61261914
this to be honest. Trimming encrypted SSD is the best way to deal with things.
Plus 90% of SSDs on the market encrypt themselves anyway, so you can purge and generate new keys via "secure erase" option. This makes data completely unrecoverable.

For the two people posting here afaik, any reason why you quit being forensics people?

>>61261593
>Children cannot consent because they don't know what sex is
Unless, you know, you taught them about it. What exactly is so arcane and mystical about sex?
>and they aren't mature enough to handle it.
What does "handling it" entail? What level of maturity is required? Do you have factual evidence that people over an arbitrary age are any more likely to be sufficiently mature than people under it? How do you even define or measure maturity in this emotional context?

>>61261980
>So you don't care about the fact that people you elect kill entire non-US innocent families just because it's in their interest and "they don't have rights".
Point out where I said that. I said that I don't care that YOU hate the US, and I don't care to hear why YOU hate the US.

>>61261980
>Hopefully as a yuropoor I shouldn't expect being killed by your military. Not for now at least.
If I had my way, you would likely be gobbled up by Russia, because I have no interest in defending any other nation, or defending the atrocities that other nations inflict on their citizenry.

>>61262026
why make it so personal?
Do you care if and why syrians hate americans?

>>61262053
No.

>>61261980
>I should feel personally responsible for the actions of others
>shit that I had no part in whatsoever, and make an effort to point out is not okay
By this logic then you're also responsible for the UK kick starting all the shit in the middle east by lying to America that someone was a communist sympathizer, all because said that person wouldn't sell oil to you.
Don't throw stones in glass houses, prick.

>>61262013
I'm one of them. I started as an intern without a degree, but was tech savvy enough to move up through the ranks pretty quickly. Made lots of good impressions with clients, did good work, etc. The problem is, I was making half of what I should have made since management figured out that without a degree I was basically trapped there. Nobody else would hire me without a degree regardless of my experience, and I got really fucking sick of being stuck in a windowless lab, 45-50 hours a week, with lots of travel, and shit benefits for deliberately shit pay. So I quit, went back to school, and am getting better at app and web development to make some quick cash on the side.

tl;dr: tired of getting fucked as cheap labor.

>>61262036
>because I have no interest in defending any other nation
well I'm pretty sure US must have political reasons to allocate armed forces to poland. It's in your and your people's interest to prevent russia from spreading into europe. Do you really believe NATO and other pacts exists because us government personally cares about other people being killed?

>>61261207
Data that is properly encrypted should not be distinguishable from corrupt data.

>>61262078
So again, you shouldn't be surprised that mudslimes hate muricans and shoot them.
By your neutral position you let your government attack other countries. So you're partially responsible for their actions.

>>61262098
I'm pretty sure that I don't care. Get the resources we need from ourselves where possible, and trade or conquer when necessary.

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>>61259191
Not at all.

Not very, the thermite I can claim is wired to my home security system likely did its job

>>61262082
Who are you quoting?
I don't recall saying that.

>>61262121
I don't think the US should be in the Middle East, no. I think that each nation should be required to keep its population in check. If the Afghans harbored terrorists, we simply hit Afghanistan with a few ICBMS, or a non-nuclear MIRV.

Make the thought of terrorism so terrifying that civilians won't overlook suspicious activities.

>>61260756
No. Datacenters destroy drives because PCI you fucktard.

Not to mention it's the only way to ensure the data is actually gone.

>>61262118
You'd think that, but there's some slight differences. Corruption is rarely every full-disk. It can happen, but it's rare. So if I get a disk in the lab that appears to be fully corrupted on every sector and partition, I'm not going to immediately assume corruption, I'm going to get suspicious and then I'm going to continue on the assumption that it's encrypted.

Second, the tools we use in the forensics trade are actually pretty good at identifying encryption methodology. I'm not 100% how it works, but I suspect it has something to do with an algorithm simulator to see if there's a recognizable mathematical sequence in the mess.

Third, corruption can actually make sense. In hexcode, corruption rarely is ever fully garble. You'll notice fragmented headers, broken pieces of files, artifacts that clearly came from somewhere on the drive. Encryption doesn't do that. You can tell somethings encrypted because it's much more "complete," if that makes sense. If the Hexcode looks "messy," it could be corruption. If the Hexcode looks "complete," there's a good chance it's encryption.

>>61262123
>I don't care.
>and trade or conquer when necessary.
>when necessary
Well you're saying incompatible things, anon.
Geopolitics are more complicated than you think.

>>61262242
Neat. I'm glad we have a geopolitical expert in our midst. I bet you're as good as Noah Antwiler on Twitter!

>>61262212
^ this. When data destruction is ordered, that shit gets obliterated off the face of the earth.

>>61262163
>>61261980
"Which morally makes you also responsible for murder. So you shouldn't be surprised by goatfuckers going into your country and killing US citizens."
>Which morally makes you also responsible for murder.
And don't try to fucking nitpick saying "hur dur but you didn't quote me exactly"
That's EXACTLY what you fucking said
Opinion officially discarded, I win, you lose due to logical fallacy.
Fuck you and have a nice day.

>>61262166
Really? How can you purge entire country just because of some few citizens?
>with a few ICBMS
and then you get nuked back by iran. Great idea desu f@m
>>61262212
no it's not, and you're fucking stupid. There are many ways to ensure data is gone without destroying the drive, it's just it costs too much and there is nothing valuable in return.
>Datacenters destroy drives because PCI you fucktard.
I don't recall saying it's not. Care to quote?

>>61262253
>he still thinks murika defends other countries without having any interest in it
Recheck your facts.

>>61262276
>I should feel personally responsible for the actions of others
>shit that I had no part in whatsoever, and make an effort to point out is not okay
This is what you posted. And it differs A LOT from what I posted. You made stupid ASSumptions and then just left the discussion. Pathetic.

>>61262293
Please point out where I said that.

>>61262293
>world's largest supplier of foreign aid
If we intervene you cry and say we shouldn't have.
If we don't you cry and say "where was America when this happened?"
You don't want the world to a be a better place. You just feed off negativity for a sick sense of superiority.

>>61261867
While fascinating, it's still clearly tenuous. They've also had success with an older Android as well, in absolutely optimal conditions. It's exciting stuff for sure, but honestly a LOT seems to have to go right and the payoff seems pretty minimal.

>>61262306
Just gotta get the last word in, huh?

>>61262281
>no it's not, and you're fucking stupid. There are many ways to ensure data is gone without destroying the drive, it's just it costs too much and there is nothing valuable in return.
>>Datacenters destroy drives because PCI you fucktard.
>I don't recall saying it's not. Care to quote?

Here's you're quotes you ordered
>>9.10 Destroy media when it is no longer needed for business or
legal reasons as follows:
>>9.10.1 Shred, incinerate, or pulp hardcopy materials so that
cardholder data cannot be reconstructed.


>>9.10.2 Render cardholder data on electronic media
unrecoverable so that cardholder data cannot be reconstructed.


.

>>61262281
>quote
Also here is your link you fuckstick
https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/documents/navigating_dss_v20.pdf

>>61262316
So you don't care, yet you vote and effectively make people dead.
You say you don't care about defending other countries, yet you care about "trading and conquering". Do realize "conquering" doesn't imply just killing everyone? Defending your allies is a part of conquering others, enemies in example.

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Wut encryption?

>>61262333
I've learned long ago that there is no pleasing these people. The Swedes and the French will spit on us while relying on us to protect them from Russia.

Personally, I would just pull back, and let Russia have at it. Its not like those fucks can even afford to defend themselves. They are too busy feeling superior with their 60-80% tax rate so that everything is "free." Except for anything fun, which, of course requires a license to be issued to you by the government.

>>61259191
>get the encryption keys
I'm sorry sir, I don't have any encrypted device
>your doujins
I'm sorry sir, I'm not mentally ill
They leave.

>>61262394
>So you don't care, yet you vote and effectively make people dead.
Exactly. So why do you think I care?

>You say you don't care about defending other countries, yet you care about "trading and conquering".
It means I have no issues trading with the warlord of whatever shit hole we need something out of if we can't get it ourselves. If we need it, and they are unwilling to trade, we weigh the costs and decide whether it is worth coming in and taking it. Warfare is just another form of diplomacy.

>>61262374
I asked you to quote ME saying that drives are shredded for different purpose, not PCI you stupid negroid. Which part of what I said you don't understand? The one that I say it's cheaper to destroy the drive than zero it and analyze if the data is 100% gone, and then get used drive with almost no value? Or did I say something else?

>>61262450
>Data centers destroy drives just because they don't want to dedicate resources to zero them.

>>61262023
>what if the child consents tho

>>61262441
>So why do you think I care?
You vote. And it doesn't matter if you care or not, I don't understand why you keep posting this shit response. I just pointed out you make people dead by your actions, and this is the reason why you got enemies that wants to kill you. That's all.
I never made it personal

>>61262407
It's not like I mind helping people out. I have nothing wrong with Europe.
But when we are waiting to make a dedicated defense and your countries, which keeps Russia at bay, and you still just slander us left and right, we might as well give you the finger and leave you to the wolves

>>61259793
I'm looking forward to the day we can do our own justice for people like you, and you won't like it.

>>61262463
And which part of my sentence is invalid? One of the reasons why they destroy drives instead of wiping them is that it's simpler and cheaper. There are other, obvious reasons (data security) that I didn't mention, but I'm pretty sure if you'd follow up entire discussion you'd understand why.
Just stop shitposting and read more carefully next time.

>>61262475
>You vote.
But who and what do I vote for? Do you presume that I voted for Trump? For Hillary? That I vote Democrat or Republican down the ticket, or at all?

Me voting does not necessitate endorsement of what the government winds up doing. In fact, depending on my vote, it would be possible for me to argue the exact opposite, wouldn't it?

>>61262494
Agreed. People act like whatever resources Europe has would become unavailable, because Putin would just outright refuse to trade. Evidence has shown that this is not the case. And, seeing how globalist most of Europe is, we may as well give them what they want, and become part of an even bigger union with unaccountable bureaucrats.

>>61262527
Dude I >>61262276 just closed the door on this guy. Clearly he just wants to be angry and feel superior or something.
Just stop wasting your time with him.

>>61262547
>bigger union with unaccountable bureaucrats
No thank you, I'm fine with just an alliance

>>61262561
I like giving people with superiority complexes enough rope to hang themselves with. Because they have that complex, they feel as though they are talking down to you. Then you just let talk themselves into a corner, and make a fool of them.

>>61262584
Who cares what you want if you can't defend your own nation?

>>61262281
>>61262293
>>61262276
>>61262306
>>61262316
>>61262333
>>61262394
>>61262407
>>61262441
>>61262450
>>61262475
>>61262494
>>61262527
>>61262547
>>61262561
>>61262602
>>61262584

This just in:

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>>61262668
Fuck I fucked that up

>>61262602
>>61262584
>>61262561
I'm the same guy.
I'm not talking about leaving them defenseless, I just don't like big Orwellian style governments.

Also: yeah same. Feels good to put someone in their place, as long as it's for the greater good and not just for the sake of stroking ego.

>>61262696
>I just don't like big Orwellian style governments.
Europeans do. The EU is a mass of unelected, unaccountable European bureaucrats, and they obviously hate the US defending them. Let Russia take them over if that's what they want.

>>61262510
>Data centers destroy drives just because they don't want to dedicate resources to zero them.
>just because they don't want to dedicate resources to zero them.
>just because.

Thats the invalid part you fuckwit.

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ITT:
>Pedos discussing legality of lolis
>/int/
>autists with no legal expertise trying to act like lawyers

And oh yeah and also a smattering of interesting tech related discussion. Every fucking time, /g/.

>>61262796
Where do you think we are

>>61261522
Maybe he's running EPYC and has encrypted RAM

>>61262810
An chinese fingerpainting enthusiast page

>>61262810
m̶o̶o̶t̶.̶c̶o̶m̶
hiroshimanagaski.jp

>>61262796
I don't why /g/ is full of computer nerds.
Is that all what technology is now?
Just computers and their derivatives?

>>61262910
Well it's certainly not banging on about the ethics and morality of US geopolitics or what skates child protection laws, is it?

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>>61262949
I'm so sorry people are discussing things that you don't like in a single thread on the technology board. Perhaps you would find a tech journal more to your liking? Perhaps one of the other threads? Maybe literally anything else other than pointless whining that people enjoy discussing things tangentially related to tech, and that the conversation can evolve?

>>61262949
blame the FBI for jailing people for chinese cartoons

>>61259191
i get i would have to pay for them if their licensed in my count otherwise i'm fine

>>61262994
>my asinine conversation that has an entirely separate board dedicated to just such asinine conversations isn't appreciated in the tech board

whewy, my boy, sure got me.

>>61261665
>adding arson to your charges
>literally giving them an excuse to invoke the patriot act

>>61261988
>and encryption typically has noticeable patterns
XOR plz go.
Real men use public key encryption and one time pads to ensure this doesn't happen.

>>61263040
Either you're someone who can't ignore the random subject you dislike (at which point, you're autisitc), or you're the nut from earlier that got BTFO and are trying to save face by pretending that you are a /g/ purist.

My PC uses LUKS/dm-crypt FDE. I would surrender the password without contest (assuming there is a warrant). All of my sensitive data is in 3 10 gb .gpg filled which are then split into 1gb pieces. All that exist within these files is pirated media and financial info. The password for these files is 16 digits, randomly generated.

I have them written down and stored securely. I actually do not remember the passes, and rarely unencrypt the files as it is basically a back up.

I think I am good.

>>61263074
I'm a passing anon who was hoping for a discussion on a topic I'm actually interested in only to discover that yet again faggots with an opinion that nobody cares about jack it up. I see a thread about media exploitation, I end up with Yuros and Burgers yelling at each other over some shit I could give a fuck about.

>>61263116
Feel free to respond to the OP, then.

>>61263073
Ok, "pattern" isn't the right way to phrase it. More like, you can tell that something's corrupted instead of encrypted because corruption rarely fucks up everything. You get artifacts, broken headers, you get clear evidence of damaged sectors, stuff like that. Encryption is more obvious because it garbles absolutely everything on a partition, disk, or file. I have been doing hex and machine code analysis for 4 years and have yet to see corruption so bad that it does something like that.

>>61259191
not at all actually

>>61263132
>implying OP stuck around for this crapshoot.

>>61263149
Not him, but I knew what you meant, and it made sense to me. Encryption garbles everything. Corruption only garbles most things. Seems like there would be a market for 98% encryption, or something like that.

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>>61263168
If you really wanna talk to me anon...

>>61259728
>an algorithm you made yourself
Actually not necessarily the worst idea. Take AES128, add two rounds, xor a random byte in the middle by 42.

The NSA's precomputed data is now useless, and their brute force cluster software will have to be updated. It's no longer a 10 minute job.

Unless they're after you, that could be enough.

>>61263190
>Corruption only garbles most things
Really? In my experience, it's < 1%

>>61259191
I hid a grenade under the motherboard

>>61263190
You'd think, that's a good idea actually. I'll bet there is a market for that. Problem is, it'd have to be believable. If you randomly saw headers normally found in a .jpg in what was a corruption-style-encryption for an NTFS partition, that wouldn't make any sense. So somehow the encryption algorithm would have to know the filetypes it was working with, and be able to identify the partitions and their filesystems, and be able to imitate corruption, while being able to be decrypted. That's a tall order, man.

>>61263207
Oh hi, OP. I don't retract my statements, but I'm happy you stuck around.

>>61263222
I've seen it get pretty bad, myself. I would never say anything on the scale of encryption, but certainly bad enough that it gave us headaches for days. I've seen a partition be completely corrupted, but was able to attempt reconstruction using EnCase, followed by manual parsing for artifacts. I've seen a boot sector be completely fucked, but it still had some artifacting. I'd say the most I've ever seen is ~70%

>>61263238
I laughed at this more than I did the thermite suggestion

>>61259191
Not fucked because I'm a normalfag and there's not much on my computer that would look bad other than a pirated copy of Vegas Pro.

>>61263384
Get out normie!
REEEEEE

>>61259191

my Ebyc processor has RAM encryption

on a serious note though, wonder if that shit is gonna be available on ThreadRipper.

Not sure if this is possible, but imagine doing a RAM Drive with AMD Epyc computers that have RAM encryption

Does anyone use the TENSOR kernel module to store encryption keys is CPU registers

>>61263660
Nope, never heard of it actually.

>>61259697
You wouldn't need to, they'd all be cut in half on the edge

>>61263682
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRESOR
https://www.usenix.org/legacy/event/sec11/tech/full_papers/Muller.pdf

>>61263660

why can't the computer hash the encryption key to something randomly generated each time you unlock your computer?

So if the fucko seizes your shit and freezes your RAM, they would only get a useless random hash that can't be "decrypted"?

am i being a retard here?

>>61263775
If you hash the key, how will you use it?

>>61263738
>A 2012 paper called TRESOR-HUNT showed how a DMA attack can break this system, by injecting code that would invisibly function at ring 0 (the highest privilege level), which would allow it to read the keys and transfer them to usual memory. The paper also proposed ways to mitigate against such attacks

I mean right there it states how to break it. What good is it if even wikipedia knows how to bring it down?

>>61263796
do you know what a DMA attack is?
also there are migrations

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>None of my encrypted containers are mounted
>None of them can be mounted unless booted into linux on my laptop
>Tell them none of this, stay quiet, request lawyer
>Plead innocent
>If forced into giving up keys, the popo find out I have some vanilla porn, tax document scans, car accident reports and information, financials dating back a decade for every month, and a plain text document with all my usernames and passwords for every single service I've ever signed up for or used since joining the net.
>I then counter sue for my wrongful arrest, my emotional trauma, and slander to my good name.
>While all this is going on, I will close/burn/deactivate every single account that was on that plaintext document, as well as change bank accounts and get new credit cards.

>>61259728
>not encrypting your nudes with AES
>not using stenography on those nudes previously to encrypting for hiding a large key
>not using that large key to encrypt some more important files in CBC mode
>not separating the resulting encrypted bytes into several different types of storage
>not keeping the first storage hidden in your anus
You guys really don't know what you're missing.

>>61263837
I'm not super well versed on them, but from what I understand it's exploiting parts of the system bus, like PCI-E, to bypass some forms of security. Maybe I'm misunderstanding?

>>61263912
Yes, you would need to plug in a firewire or PCI card into the computer, and target it while it's loading the key into the CPU register. So if you are getting raided, it needs to be just after you booted up, and they have to insert the DMA attack hardware into your computer before you finish the boot process.

>>61264120
So what would happen if they just restarted the computer and then launched a DMA?

>>61261011
>ShotaxKemono
artists? This is ironically my fetish

>>61259355
It's actually the opposite. That kinda thing never happens in 3rd world shit countries. The only way it's if another country (US, UK, Germany) is looking for you in Thailand, Guatemala or something like that, the local authorities don't care.

>>61260662
In the US yes, it's covered by your right to silence. Mostly. There are a few cases where it's been ruled it doesn't count but thus far they've revolved around it being a forgone conclusion because the illegal contents had already been seen by police.

Everywhere else though you're fucked, mandatory key disclosure laws are popping up all over the place. Your best hope is some form of deniable encryption, as proving encrypted data different from random data is about as difficult as breaking the encryption.

>>61264153
Non-trivial BIOS/UEFI password solves this. Probably.

>>61264120
intel_iommu and whatever the AMD equivalent is solves this through memory isolation. Again, probably.

>>61264524
No it doesn't

>>61264546
No it doesn't

>>61264153
Then you don't type in your password, and lawyer the fuck up.

>>61264582
By all means, feel free to provide a proof of concept for DMA that beats VT-d. No, the 2011 whitepaper about the thunderbolt shimmed to firewire on a non-memory managed system does not count.

>>61264337
Kishibe has a Doujin with a cow girl and a boy.
Kemonono has one with the young boy and the strong wolf girl.
Sindoll also occasionally does pictures involving boys and older animal girls.
And if you care for characters, Franchesca is a red fox that's generally paired with young boys, although she's more present in western style.

>>61259793
its better to rape real children as it gets you less years than cp

>>61264597
>lawyer up
Probably the best advice given on this whole thread.

>>61263775
This is basically how the transparent memory encryption on Ryzen Pro works. Every time you boot, the processor selects a key at random to encrypt the memory. This method needs hardware support because you can't exactly store your memory encryption key in memory.