/mkg/ - mechanical keyboard general

>>61199876
Are those EnjoyPBT or Tada68 + custom mods on the keycap set?

>>61199903
https://www.keyclack.com/groupbuy/pbt9009

Ugh learning how to touch type is hard m0n

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>HHKB layout case (Viper Killer)
>$159.00
Thanks KBDFans

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/tina-keyboard-60

>>61199876
what does touch typing even mean
can't literally everyone do that?

>>61200114
it means typing without looking at the keyboard.

and no, your average normie can't do that. most people hunt and peck.

>>61200114
type without looking at the keyboard, and it's best to use proper form, meaning that you use 4 fingers on each hand and 1 or 2 of your thumbs, and both shift keys (left shift when pressing a right hand side key, right shift when pressing a left hand side key)

>>61200119
Normie this day and age know. I'm only 20 and we learned that in grade school and I went to a small <200 school

>>61200156
I call bullshit, I work with grade schoolers and the majority of them can barely use a keyboard at all, I frequently have to point out the location of keys for them because otherwise they'll never get anything done.

>>61200119
But your average "norman" is someone working in an office in front of a computer and they type, really, really fast.

>>61200172
you are legit a retard, that anon said he was 20, do you not think things could've changed in 10+ years?

>>61200253
Mate I've been to offices. They're mostly filled with middle-aged people that are still getting to grips with the very concept of computers and type slower than anyone while squinting at the keyboard to figure out what it says.

>>61199876
why is /r/mechmarket so autistic and overpriced?

>>61200156
they teach it in grade school but that doesn't mean people will take it seriously and actually learn it. in fact when i was a kid i just bullshitted it with a very poor technique that still passed the typing speed test

>>61200404
You actually got tested on it? In my day they just said "yeah, do the tutorials in this typing program" and left you to your own devices. No-one actually did it and there were no consequences.

>>61200421
actually i don't think we got tested by the teacher and the software just had a built in test and we just played around with it and the teacher didn't check it or anything

I'm a lazy fuck, so asking here. Anyone know a decent entry level full sized MKB with a good detachable wrist rest and media buttons? Or just volume control is fine. Preferably not a christmas tree or gamer faggotry-- I was eyeing the corsair k70 but it looks retarded. Logitech G610 looks fine, but is missing the wrist rest.

anyone knows how do i macro my tada68 in the chink applet?

i found the macro maker part, fn key with the selector on the bottom option, i can even record my macros but they dont seem to play when i flash my keybs
thanks in advance

>>61200114

If you spend a lot of time on the computer, chances are you can type blind without having learned some meme method.

>>61200580
yes but it should look more like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBFAyHJ6Gjg
than this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90BHVXZrKG4

is it normal to experience pain on the wrist while learning how to touch type? My arms are lifted and my wrist are elevated because of my arms.

>>61200421
At my school they had these things that would cover the keyboard so you couldn't see the lettering on the keys

>>61200461
full size?
what do you need a tkl for, goy?
perhaps a 65% would fit you, so i recommend tada68

How's the Filco Majestouch 2?

>>61200461
Why don't just buy additional wrist rest instead?

But be warned, if you don't like Christmas tree DON'T BUY G610. That keyboard doesn't have on-board memory and it will flash wave of LED at MAXIMUM BRIGHTNESS everytime your start up your PC.

How about Ducky One instead?

>>61199876
Bought a mechanical keyboard of ebay for 15 dollars. It actually has cherry switches. Whats the scam here?

>>61200119
I can do that but I only use like 2 fingers. Am I still touch typing?

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>still no holographic, lenticular, iridescent, shiny or animated keycaps

why are keyboard keks so unimaginitive and bland?
where are the amazing keyboard designs, the new concept key shapes and layouts, its just D U M B that we're stuck with this piece of shit rectangle filled with square clickers. I'm not talking about those faggy keyboards split in half with a vague curve on them - I need some R E A L innovation.

Your all so dumb and I'm so smart its making me mad

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>>61200461

>>61201233
>animated
There are the Optimus line of keyboards, which have tiny OLED screens in every key which can display any image or video file the user desires.

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>>61201286
gay

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>Artisan Keycap

>>61201141
Not much. You can get surplus cherry g80s with the best ABS keycaps ever made for 20 bucks

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>>61201233
>holographic, lenticular, iridescent, shiny or animated keycaps
that would look like shit lol. the appeal of fancy keycap sets is in large part to the quality and thickness of the material. it serves a functional purpose, thick keycaps feel better to use and the texture on pbt plastic lasts practically forever. but look at artisan keycaps and custom print services. they're going to do custom dye sub and not just pad print.

>>61200974
Which Ducky would you recommend? Not sure what's available in Nordic layout though. Even non-red switches for a lot of manufacturers and models seem to not be in stock anywhere.

For aftermarket wrist rests, from what I've found that's easilly available where I live they mostly seem your typical "flat" and soft rests which I've tried and not liked-- I'd prefer a slanted hard surface. Mostly because of what I'm used to over the years but also my elbows are below the keyboard so having a natural slanted place for the palm is nice to keep my wrist properly straight.

That's too bad about the G610 lights, I actually like the plain aesthetic direction Logitech has been going with their more recent lineups. Why does fucking everything need lights nowadays? Even a budget mobo I ordered a while ago has retarded wavy ricer leds in it.

>>61201766
The lights make your keyboard go faster.

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Thoughts on the Fuhlen SM680R? It seems comfy and decent for the price.

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Toughts on Velocifire TKL01? I'm on a very tight budget but I want to buy a mechanical keyboard. This is also the first time I'm purchasing one.

>>61201910
trash

>>61201185
No, not really

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>>61201331
Why do they look like shit?

>>61201991
Any alternatives in the same pricerange? Drevo Tyrfing perhaps? Ajazz AK33?

>>61201955
Zorro switches aren't the best, but at that price you can't expect a lot I suppose.

What are the cheapest TKL keyboards one can buy? Preferably with EU layouts. They don't have to be real mechanical switches.

>premium doubleshot ABS
>$130

>>61202032
Because people are retarded

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hello,
hhkb fag here

has anything comfier or better to type on come out in the last year?
no?
heh, thought so

regards,

>>61202350
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

>>61202350
what if you actually need to write code isn't this a pain in the ass?

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>>61202462
git gud

>>61202490
He uses a bluetooth membrane keyboard now.

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>>61202350
Yeah, the TADA68 came out

>>61202350
i cant understand how can you guys code without delete, end, home and arrows

>>61202507
Most programmers do. I see the microsoft wireless 7000 being used a lot and the 4000 wired variant

>>61202639
That keycap set is not labelled properly, normally the \| key above enter is delete on a hhkb.

Home, end and arrows are on a function layer though.

>>61202350
Something better came out in the 80s. Its called the IBM 4704

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>>61201766
Ducky has a dedicated nordic brand that only sells keyboards exclusively to Scandinavian countries. Just buy from one of the several retailers you guys have.

>>61202350
>bright colors
Fag indeed

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>>61199876
I'm trying to replicate this keyboard but with a few more keys. What keycaps and switches should I buy?

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>>61201766
an option is to buy any ISO layout keyboard (set the language in your operating system) from germany/uk/china and these keycaps:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/top-printed-pbt-keycaps-uk-layout-iso-oem-profile-for-usb-gaming-mechanical-keyboard/32804826300.html

or get an ANSI layout keyboard and use swerty or a similar layout

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>>61202958
SA retro if you want to go full autism. For that layout ALGOL is your best option
http://www.7bit.info/algol/index.html

Are Kailh Speeds good?

>>61204643
Yes
>Inb4 someone links to the kailh sponsored review praising them.

>>61202897
>ISO layout

Does anyone else often switch between two or more of their keyboards? I have two, one black in color and black as in switches and one white in color and blue as in switches.
So I switch back and fourth. The black is nice and heavy key strokes with PBT keys and matches my mouse. The white board doesnt match shit but the blues feel really good and I can never decide which I like more.
I feel like I'm being retarded and should maybe just sell one of the two or something.

I hate asking this but is there a keyboard that isn't the fucking Razer Ornata that feels similar? I can't support them in good conscience but that switch is amazing. :/

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>>61205715
Is that the "mem-chanical"?
Try the Plum keyboards on aliexpress, they come in 84 key(pic related) layout, 87, and full. Should be similar enough but you should just buy a cheap board with gateron blacks and another cheapo with gateron blues.
Gotta have tactile AND linear

>>61201331
Why is it so hard to find keycaps that look like those? Not the gear ones, the regular shiny blue keys.
They look like porcelain and I really want to try them but I went through literally every keycap on ali and none of them matched.
It seems to be the most aesthetic cap.

>>61205837
go on reddit's mech keyboard trading thing and sell a kidney for some sa pulse

or just beg maxkey in china to steal the colours

>>61205795
do you mean the topre clone plum boards? the razer ornata switches are actually super clicky and topre isn't clicky at all

>>61205880
yeah it's not just the clicky part, i LOVE the fact they "pop" back. i think it's only possible with a membrane but i'm not sure. or even a really stiff spring that i haven't experienced yet.

>>61205715
maybe something with blue switches and 2mm thick o-rings

>>61205896
if you put a thick rubber o-ring underneath the keycap it will be a bit similar, could try 2.5mm but it might be too thick. blue switches are usually 2mm before activation and 2mm after activation (4mm total travel) so with 2.5mm you would compress the o-ring before activation. but o-rings aren't too expensive to experiment with

>>61205837
it's not a perfect match but you could try dyeing these like blue alphas and black modifiers or something

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Gray-Beige-Mixed-YMDK-Cherry-Profile-ANSI-104-Dye-Sub-Thick-PBT-Smooth-Feeling-Keycap-For/32813072835.html

Ruined the spring on my tab key on my model m and wanna replace it with one from a key I don't need, how do I remove it withouth damaging it ?
Don't wanna buy new ones from unicomp cause shipping is like $15 to where I live.

>>61202964
Finally got around to checking, seems only a few of the the popular web retailers around here have Ducky, with only two models in stock, One and Shine 6. Neither seem to have the features I want, on top of being backlit and kind of pricey.

Maybe I should just forgo aesthetics and go for one of the non-rgb K70s. Or some probably shit smaller Qpad. Seems there's not a lot of choice available. And everything seems to have RGB lighting which I guess adds a premium to the price..

>>61206427
Pull up on the spring and it will pop off the flipper, put the new spring on the end of a small screwdriver e.g. torx and turn the spring and push down on to the flipper. After plenty of tries you should eventually get it perfect.

anyone have an advice on acquiring a keycap set for a g80-3000 (non-standard keyset). If its going to be super expensive, then i'll just wait and build a keyboard

>>61206816
Meant to reply to >>61202897

So are there any decent artisan caps? I wanna rice my kb but everything seems to be like a skull or an edgy video game/movie character. Bonus points if you can actually type on that keycap after adding it

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>>61199876
Are there ways of quieting down rattly cherry stabilizers?
My space and shift keys are really noisy compared to everything else on my keyboard.

>>61206834
Will try, thank you, anon.

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What pbt keycap set should I get to put on a magiforce 68? I want to get it because of how it looks and for gateron reds, but the stock keycaps look terrible imo. I wouldn't mind if the leds don't shine through

>>61205863
>steal
gb2reddit

Are dsa keycaps any good ? Really wanna get a set to test but don't wanna end up with $60 keycaps i'm never gonna use.

>>61208132
Just get $30 chink knockoffs

Why are costar stabilizers unpopular ? They sound and feel so much better than cherries.

>>61208539
>unpopular

I've always found it difficult to get anything other than costars.

>>61200919
>How's the Filco Majestouch 2?

It's a good high quality keyboard with no gimmicks, but a little bit pricey.

>>61208568
I meant as in people not liking them.

>>61208644
They can be a bit fiddly and annoying to install, and they require a thin plate to clip to. Where as the cherries mount in the same way as key switches.

>>61207672
Here's cheap EnjoyPBT blanks in Cherry profile: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/enjoypbt-blank-keycaps-117keys

If you want to go for something with legends, you could look at the new Nautilus set on Massdrop for around $100.

>>61208644
>>61208539

They're usually the most popular when it comes to getting good stabs, but people don't like how you have to fuck with the little pegs whenever you swap out keycaps.

>>61208539
they get stuck on thick keycaps

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Looking for a mechanical keyboard, what y'all recommend?? P.S. I'm clueless about this shit, I type on a lenovo keyboard at work all day.

>Budget
$150 USD
>Location (continent at least)
Southern United States
>Preferred switch type
I tried mx red / black
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
Would like to go with a 60% but a 80 would be fine
>Backlight
Yes
>Previous/current keyboards
I had a rosewell mx blue keyboard, the r key and the x key stopped working, and currently using on a piece of shit iBuyPower keyboard that I years ago.

>>61210393
tada68
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/tada68-mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils

>>61210423
awesome! Thanks!
Know anything about split keyboards? Are they worth it or just get a wristpad?

>>61199876
Where can I get my hands on one of those windows keys?

What's a good board with red switches under $40

>>61202350
>buyer's remorse: damage control
The post.

>>61210660
china

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>mfw waiting for parts to build my first mech keyboard

>KBD75 finally shipped
>Arriving Friday
>Will be away from home for a week starting Friday
Just end my life. There's no way for me to get out of this business trip

>>61200301
>>61200404
true
>>61200580
>If you spend a lot of time on the computer, chances are you can type blind without having learned some meme method.
The average office drone has bags of candy, a jar of peanut butter and several painkillers in their desk drawers. They barely know the letters of the fucking alphabet much less the difference between delete and backspace without thinking on it for 5 minutes. Fuck you.
>>61200798
That wasn't a school, you were raped.
>>61201233
Most keyboard culture is brony level.
>>61201331
>>Artisan Keycap
You'd be better off doing cocaine.
>>61205617
>blues feel really good
Yeah, they're the best switch except for the noise bothers co-workers and girlfriends.
>>61207143
>So are there any decent artisan caps?
No, artisan anything means shit.

Most people have absolutely no idea what the windows and function keys are for. They use the keyboard that came with their computer at work and from Dell.

>>61210660
https://world.taobao.com/item/520435782021.htm?spm=a312a.7700825.1997196601.64.beTk4n

What's your opinion of outemu switches? I'm interested on blues mostly.

>Bought a switch tester so I could figure out which type I liked best
>End up just fiddling with it instead of actually judging each key type

Am I the autism?

>>61211241
No, it's the most normal thing to do.
Testers are a meme, the only way to know how a switch feels is using in real life situations.

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I got this with the MX greens and o-rings about a year ago. Been comfy as fuck ever since.

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>>61211264
>Testers are a meme, the only way to know how a switch feels is using in real life situations.

This is the cheapest keyboard with red switches i can find. Should i buy it?
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/James-Donkey-610-USB-Wired-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Blue-Red-OUTEMU-Switch-with-10-LED-Backlight/2653196_32816637248.html

>>61211639
If you want reds, go for a gateron one.

>>61211750
Is there any under $50?

>>61211773
I find one, but you have to spend 4 dollars more.
Outemos are okeish clones of Cherry, but linear Gaterons are constantly praised.

>>61205795
>>>/reddit/

>>61211818
Which board did you find? And thanks for the help.

>>61211888
I forgot to put the link
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1654

Does anyone on here know if the KBD75 supports PCB mount stabilizers?

>>61208099
excuse me those colours are patented and copyrighted you can't use them

Should I get the Ducky One or the Rosewill RK-9300? both are the same price

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Got a picture of the beam spring in its natural environment now that I got everything home and unloaded. Eighteen bucks and change. I still can't believe it. I'll get to cleaning later, and figuring out what's wrong or missing with the controllers.

First thing I noticed about the board is it isn't a typical one you see for this type. The case is plastic and the extra legends on the keys are engraved instead of pad printed. I'll dig more into that later.

Right now, time to shower and get to bed. I'm exhausted after all the driving and moving hundreds of pounds of stuff.

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>>61213027
And closeup on the board. Sorry for the phone pics but my XLR is out of juice until it can recharge.

>>61210118
only in some cases, and you can easily fix it

>>61211226
blue outemu is good. not much is known about the others as not many people have tried both e.g. outemu brown and gateron brown. it was only recently that gateron got the approval of keyboard geeks and now suddenly input club is passing off kailh as high-end switches. outemu is probably underrated.

Why are so many mechanical keyboards in the UK dumb US layout trash?

>>61213715
Why not? Don't you like lager left Shift key?

>>61212808
Ducky One comes with PBT keycaps, which is better than the ABS that comes with the Rosewill.

>>61213867
huh, the site selling the ducky says they are ABS

>>61213918
My bad, I thought all Ducky Ones came with PBT.

That said, I think Ducky is better quality, whereas Rosewills are rebranded OEM boards.

>>61213715
>needing a special snowflake layout to type in your barely different snowflake version of english

Switch board came in today, so far I really like greens. Is there any downside to getting a keyboard with those?

Just got the magicforce68 with typewriter keycaps from massdrop. I will be gifting it to my gf, and she has a Mac. Any of you know if I can find the Mac modifiers for said Keyset?

>>61214754
i don't think they exist

Hey so trying to program qmk, i'm following the instructions to build an enviroment setup on windows following these intructions (windows vista and later section): https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/docs/build_environment_setup.md

at step 8, i;m having toruble with pnputil.exe as it cant be found,, any solution for this? googling, i found a microsoft support article saying it cant be downloaded as standalone?

>>61214732
They are noisy I guess?

Personally I like green more than blue. The extra weight makes the click sound more satisfying and not as high pitched as blues which makes the sound less annoying

>>61214732
Keyboards with greens, whites, clears or greys can be more expensive than the standard black, brown, red, blue switches. That's basically it, if the model you're looking at doesn't increase the price it's fine.

Are the QS1 switches on the SteelSeries
Apex M800 trash or worthwhile? Cause I've found that keyboard for around 70 eurobux, which is a mid-range price for a mechanical keyboard.

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>still waiting for Planck massdrop

>>61215464
>assdrop

Are there good chink alternatives to greens or should I stick to cherry?

>>61215649
gateron make greens too

>>61215464
>delayed
>assdrop

hey guys now i'm "building" the firmware through http://kbfirmware.com/ got a couple questions:
>do i have to specify the fn key when switching from layer 0 to 1, if so how?
> do I have to program shift commands right? that's built in?
>if i wanted to add a shift command outside norm, for instance shift + esc = ' that would fall under macro correct?
>now, using the previous example, If i also wanted fn + esc = tilde , can it be in the same layer as shift + esc = '?

got 0 experience in programming so pls talk to me like im retarded

>>61216073
as i said i am retarded.
for the first question i think i got an answer? fn = Mo(_fl), _fl being the layer number. so if i wanted to go to layer 1 it would be Mo(1) at layer 0 correct?

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>>61199876
Looking for keyboard recommendations.
Must be be nkro or at least 6kro
Windows based
PS/2 native

Preferably something from the mid/late 90s period so beige or white.

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>year of our lord 1979
>38 years later
>still no Weyland Nostromo keycaps
>still not Building Better Worlds
:c

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>>61216202
better angle

>>61216166
Cherry g80. They still make them new today even after 20 years of production

>>61216246
Ya I know of those but the older ones aren't NKRO and then newer ones seem a bit cheap. Not the biggest fan.

>>61216202
>>61216213
the semiotic set

>>61216301
Its still 6kro like asked for. Besides they only cost like 40€. If you wanted nkro you should've specified

>>61216696
>only wanted nkro

>>61216696
Oh I thought the old ones were 2kro. It's a possibility then.

>>61216761
It's only Model Ms that are 2kro because they're designed badly.

>>61216761
If you want old nkro keyboards then don't look at mechanical keyboards, but capacitive ones instead. BTC and Keytronic keyboards are good ones to get

>>61216797
Pretty much all membrane keyboards from the 90s were 2kro. The model M is an overpriced membrane keyboard so that's why

>>61216818
b-but muh springs

>>61216800
Any specific models I should look at?

>Budget
$100
>Location (continent at least)
East U.S.
>Preferred switch type
I tried mx red / black
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
60-80%
>Backlight
Yes
>Previous/current keyboards
CM Storm QuickFire Rapid with Cherry reds
>Uses
Playing osu (need to tap really quickly, less travel distance)

>>61216899
Well they both only have 1 capactive switch that only came on a handful of keyboards. The easiest one you can get is the BTC 5100

>>61216922
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/2230037_32807055607.html

>>61216937
How are their membrane keyboards? Do any have 6kro or better?

>>61216950
some have 6kro while others have 2kro. Also you do know 2kro doesn't mean that only 2 keys can be pressed at once. Modifiers like shift, tab, ctrl, alt, etc. don't count towards the limit, and due to the way the matrix is designed more then 2 keys can be pressed at once. On my model M I can have several 10 key combinations all pressed at the same time.

>>61215673
But are they good? I hear gat blues are worse than cherry

>>61217054
Yes and I'm not looking for a 2kro keyboard. I'm not looking for a new main keyboard. It's just something to play around with dosbox and some real hardware.

>>61217101
Then why the fuck would key rollover matter. I thought you were gonna use it to game, which is the biggest reason why key rollover matters.

>>61217095
dunno, never used either real greens or gats

all i can tell you is the gateron ones are 20 cents per switches and the cherries are 68.

>>61217129
For a lot of games. Quake etc.

>>61217227
roller over doesn't matter in older games. It's only in certain newer ones where it matters.

>>61217255
You're incorrect.

>>61217313
99% of keyboards back in the 90s were 2kro and no one had issues then. What makes you think that dos, which doesn't support nkro will have any negative benefits. It wasn't until windows 95 that nkro was supported, and even then nkro keyboards cost hundreds of dollars

>>61217313
>>61217498
If your tisms want nkro then get a cherry Cherry G81-8308 on ebay for like 40-50 bucks

>>61217498
PS/2 has native nkro and it was the standard for keyboards in the 90s.

>>61217498
>99% of keyboards back in the 90s were 2kro and no one had issues then.
There were tons of issues. I know since I dealt with them. Nothing really kept you from playing the game you just had to know that you couldn't do somethings. Big things I remember since I played FPSes a lot would be switching weapons while going crouched or jump and moving.

I'm not really interested in a debate about it. You've either ran into the problems yourself or you're a scrub and can't understand why someone would want more than 2kro.

So any more nkro recommendations?

>>61217536
just because it supports it doesn't mean all of them did. if you wanted nkro on a keyboard you have to pay 3-4x the cost of a normal one. as a result most of the keyboards back then didn't have it. Pros have been gaming on 2kro keyboards for decades now, its only recently in some modern games that 2kro isn't good enough. I know in red orchestra 2 my old dell keyboard had problems with leaning so I rebound some of the keys

>>61217536
That's great and all but the port is only one part of the chain and every part needs to support it for it to work.

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>>61217581
Oh I get you're retarded and thing that your shitty logitech keyboard speaks for all 2kro keyboards. Modern games have issues with 2kro, but for dos and quake its fine. quit acting like a little bitch, or put your money where your mouth is and buy an old keyboard with nkro.

>>61217661
Do you have autism or just underage with the reading comprehension to match?

>>61216922
>CM Storm QuickFire Rapid
If you're strictly buying an osu keyboard then get a membrane board or something like an cherry silver. reds suck

>>61217536
I just want to point out this is about as retarded as thinking that because HDMI 1.0 supports 1080p/60, anything plugged in with that can and does run at it.

>>61200785
Depends on where in the wrist. Do the typing wrist stretches, google them. And try to change your typing position until you find what works for you so try wrist pads and keyboard angles and make sure you're sitting in a comfortable seat. You are also developing muscle in fine motor skills that will cause soreness since you aren't used to using them and will go away the more you use them.

>>61217536
I used to think that all keyboards with a ps/2 port had nkro. I then bought an old compaq one on craigslist for 2 bucks and was disappointed it had 3kro. The only rubber dome keyboard from the 90s I know has nkro are those old anykey keyboards

>>61217095
Chink switches have much more inconsistency due to lack of quality assurance, and Gateron is no exception. While it's not as noticeable in linear switches, it's the clicky switches where the sloppiness is pronounced due to more moving parts (i.e. the click jacket).

Are gateron's blues still shit?

>>61218273
jfhgyyetegrtyyyyoo

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>>61199876
Anyone know where i can order some brown modifiers? Like this but for less than ~$25

>>61219544
this is as close as you can get
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/44-key-iso-cherry-mx-keycap-set.html

>>61219251
haven't seen any real proof of this

>>61200020
>>61200020

I'm doing that right now actually haha

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Just got my new keycaps in, already want more.

>>61220381
>WASD

why

>>61220395
I feel into the meme 4 years ago and am undecided as to what to get next

>>61201955
I own this keyboard, using it right now actually. I got mine on ebay for $22 direct from velocifire so amazing value. It does sound somewhat cheap to type on though. The switches feel like a hybrid between mx reds and mx browns.

>>61219544
Where did this picture come from?
I can tell it's an imgur urlhttps://imgur.com/z03Dhpn but was it linked somewhere else?

w2c that case
>inb4 it's korean custom

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>>61220725
reverse image search worked just fine, and yes its a korean custom

>>61219544
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/top-printed-keycaps-gh60-poker-with-keypuller-pbt-oem-profile-for-wried-mechanical-gaming-keyboard/2230037_32793984418.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/blank-printed-pbt-keycap-top-printed-thick-pbt-oem-profile-for-wried-mechaniacl-gaming-keyboard-with/2230037_32791541368.html

your best bet is probably to take white or grey modifiers and dye them brown

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>cherry profile and subculture 2 profile keycaps differ just enough in height to be noticeable from a distance
how do you guys feel about (sometimes having to) combine different profiles?

P.S. fuck /r/mechmarket and their faggot mods and their overpriced shit

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Hey /g/uys are there any fairly priced caps for sale that have caught your attention lately? I've seen a ton on ali. I'm going to link some of them, hoping other people will do the same.
I got two white keyboards and black headphones, monitors, mouse, mousepad, case, etc and it's driving me nuts so I'm probably going to be ordering something here soon.

Carbon with option for Korean legends https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-product-104-108-125-PBT-Thick-Keycap-Dye-Sublimated-Korean-layout-Cherry-MX-Switch-Keycap/32817967684.html

Top Printed DSA in Dolche, Blue/White, Blue/Yellow
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/top-printed-side-printed-dsa-pbt-keycap-caps-for-usb-wried-mechanical-keyboard-104-keys/32813738267.html

Hyperfuse knock off
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NPKC-Customized-61-87-104-ANSI-Keyset-OEM-Profile-Thick-PBT-Keycap-set-For-Cherry-MX/32813657693.htm

And the one I'm thinking about getting for use on a Black drevo gramr or maybe a noppoo or whatever. Black and blue taihao abs( :( )
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/taihao-abs-double-shot-keycaps-for-diy-gaming-mechanical-keyboard-color-of-carbon-pulse-Captain-America/32816594798.html

>>61221505
>>61221505

>ABS
but why

>>61221505
can someone tell the chinks to make cherry profile thick pbt in pulse colorway with dyesub black on blue. like how they're doing the pbt carbon sets. they're doing allover prints with graphics but how about some more "plain" dye sub jobs. and don't forget the short right shift

>>61221191
i dont know why mechmarket just decided it's the norm to charge extra for modifications and previous shipping costs when that's the opposite of literally every trading community ever

no-one cares that you paid $20 to have it shipped to you in the first place, they're not gonna pay above retail for a second hand item are you retarded

>>61221706
I just really love the way it looks and it doesn't come in PBT. I prefer POM to both PBT and ABS but they only have plain black and Noppoo choc mini sets in POM.
I would like that pictured keyset in PBT with perhaps one more piece of "flare" like a different color enter or escape.

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What are the best vintage keyboards that aren't the Model M/F?

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>>61223037
anything made by symbolics, old honeywell keyboards, or if that's too vintage for you then dell big foots are a lot cheaper and much more common.

Looking for a board that has the following:

>Tenkeyless or smaller (something like a 65% would be ideal)
>regular-sized keys (want to change out keycaps with a standard set - most 65% have a smaller shift, which would make this difficult)
>metal case
>minimalist design - no gaymer bullshit

>>61223369
magicforce 68? with most other 65% keyboards, besides the short right shift you'll have a non-standard bottom row next to the arrow keys (e.g. 3x1.25+6.25+3x1.0, 3x1.25+6.25+2x1.5, 3x1.25+5.5+3x1.25, 2x1.5+7.0+2x1.5)

but if you get a tada68, you don't need to change the keycaps other than for aesthetics reasons, because it comes with top tier keycaps by default

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>>61223369
as >>61223645 said the magicforce 68 has a standard key sizes and fits all your requirements. The only other option that I know of is the Atomic

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>>61199876
Hi I got memed.
This is my james donkey gateron brown.

At first I was like "This feels very bad I like my membrane better" then I changed keycaps and adder o rings"this is little better" and after the feet romaval it feels so nice.

Honestly It does not feel as different from membrane as you give impression of but it is little smoother,problem are very small buttons I click 2buttons at once now pretty commonly.

Anyway I must say after few changes to donkey it looks and feel good[with o rings it is also dead silent except spacebar and enter]

>>61223841
btw cost was $60 including o rings and keycaps[bought from chink sites with coupons]

>>61223037
Anything Focus or anything with Alp switches. Look into some older apple ii keyboards.

>>61223733
>>61223645

Yes, but the magicforce is mostly plastic and just has a really cheap, thin, metal top. I'm looking for a thick, quality metal case

>>61200147
>and both shift keys
i do everything else correctly but i don't get right shift at all. it's not symmetric, it's 1u further out. and the right hand also bears more torque stress due to enter, backspace, and mousing. why would i want to torque my right hand more often than i already do? not to mention right shift is valuable real estate for a different key. why not stick esc there or something?

>>61223964
unless you spend $100+ there are only a few options out there.

Can I just go ahead and get a Unicomp, /g/?

I've been fretting for so long now about whether I should try to buy a real Model M, but I think the lack of modern keys would be annoying after a while.

I'm old enough to have used the Model F, and would really like that, but the lack of modern layout would drive me crazy.

>>61224972
wait for these to get tried and tested and for the chinks to sell them for half the price

https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/f62-model-f-keyboard-kishsaver-ultra-compact/

>>61224972
Go full autism and get a modern day model F. I think the run is done, but if its still open then go for it. If you don't like it you can always sell it for a profit

>>61225015
>>61225013

Honestly I would have thought about that if it weren't for the price - at least for the current run. Feel way too full-on artistic already even thinking about trendy keyboards. But legit did use real keyboards in the past, so still remember what I'm missing.

Thanks for the input though.

>>61224972
Unicomps are nice. I'm using one right now. Ever since I started using it, all the Cherry tactile options feel like shit now. It's surprisingly affordable too at $94, considering you're also getting PBT keycaps.

>>61225013
How long will that take, three years?

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What's the cheapest place to find Carbon DSA PBT caps? I'd really like to buy a "base set" but can't find reasonable prices. On ebay, full set is over $250.
Thanks a bunch!

>>61223964
the thin metal top on my magic force def makes the board a lot noisier.. but yah magicforce is definitely, in my opinion, the best sub 100 kb (not including tada). if you want better quality in the style of magicforce prepare to spend at least 200 shekels. i think the varmillo 68 is around that price

>>61225138
did you check ali express? last time i checked someone was selling the carbon. or if you can, taobao def has em, but you have to go through a bunch of hoops to buy from taobao though

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>Budget
$150
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
MX Brown
>Layout
TenkeylessANSI
>Form factor
Tenkeyless
>Backlight
Don't care one way or another.

I want the keyboard to have a removable mini USB connection.

I currently have a Corsair K65 and it's shite.

>>61225158
aliexpress has the full set but not just the base set

>>61225083
well there aren't gonna be any more runs so those are the last of the model Fs

>>61225169
Ducky One's currently the cheapest
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2588

>I currently have a Corsair K65 and it's shite.
What was wrong with it?

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>>61225158
>did you check ali express? last time i checked someone was selling the carbon. or if you can, taobao def has em, but you have to go through a bunch of hoops to buy from taobao though
https://world.taobao.com/item/545167829275.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a230r.1.14.4.nseHGt&ns=1&abbucket=1#detail

This? Yeah, but they don't sell base set alone :( Full set is $200USD+

>>61225212
>aliexpress has the full set but not just the base set
Correct. Ali sellers too only sell whole package + other novelty sets standalone. You cannot buy a fucking base set alone :(

I simply don't need 400 keycaps for my TKL.

>>61225245
Hard to find key caps for it , unnecessary media buttons, non-removable cable.

>>61225249
they have done multiple production runs and there might be another. i'm guessing within a few months

from the feedback page on aliexpress:
>Thank you for your support and trust Also thank you for your praise We may follow up on BASE kit sincere regards JONE
>18 Jun 2017 20:04

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>>61225138
I would get one, but my autism would kill me from all the miss matched legends

>>61225294
Thank you. So I guess we'll have to monitor their sales page and /mkg/.

>>61225310
I think that 2 and 1 were fixed.

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>>61225340
I don't even look at the keyboard when typing so I'm not gonna notice it 99% of the time, but still when I do its gonna trigger me.

>>61225134
The only thing that stops me to getting a Unicomp is
>2 NKRO
>they are ugly as fuck
I use lots of chorded keys, since I use my keyboard as a midi controller and I'm learning plover too. I also like to have a good looking keyboard.

>>61225134
Yeah the price & key layout work for me. Only issue is it's kind of ugly as sin - like a bad rendition of the classic, with bad label. I'd be happy if they could just make it look like the original.

But probably my best option, and it's been so long I wouldn't be able to tell a Model F from an M anymore.

>>61225230
Yeah but they seem stuck on a specific Model F layout meme. Would be annoying. If I'm going to buy something new I'd want 104 layout. Otherwise why not just buy an original Model F? Also not autistic enough to justify $400.

>>61225366
>I'd be happy if they could just make it look like the original
You can. Just order it on their website, and not amazon

>>61225381

Yeah was planning that to get the basic case color right, but the LED sticker is still the same as on the black case ones, I believe.

>>61225359
that's the Massdrop run. they had all kinds of QA issues.

fucking cia niggers

>>61224972
I'm tearing apart and cleaning a near mint beamspring right now and my 2007 Unicomp with modern factory light springs and old style heavy backplate is 95% the same experience. People make way too much a deal about variations in IBM spring switches most of the time. They are supremely fun and tactile compared to most other switches though.

On the beamspring front though. I found out why everything is engraved on the caps. They're motherfucking PBT. Never seen that on one of these before.

>>61225462
>Massdrop run
no it isn't

>>61225428
You can get it with a different sticker

>>61225519

OK I see how I can buy the sticker by itself but not how to modify the order. Still probably just worth it to buy the sticker separately and install it.

I think this synches it for me. Still wish it were a 104-key Model F rendition, but this should be close enough.

>>61225603
Just add a note or send an email with your order. They're real human beings on the other side. They'll do it for you if you ask.

>>61225617
Plus Unicomp sells about four keyboards a day, so someone will probably do it for you out of boredom

>>61202897
Pan-nordic layouts are absolute shit. Don't know why mechanical keyboards use that layout when it is so easy to swap out those few keys that are different. Many keyboards already come with extra gamer WASD, windows, and esc keys.

Of the ones that I've seen, Filco is the only one that offers a pure swedish layout, but I've never seen ones offer danish or norwegian ones yet. 15 years ago, having dedicated danish, norwegian, and swedish layouts used to be the norm.

>>61225360
I think the one with white keys looks fine. Unicomp also has two-tone keys on their Amazon store.

Haven't noticed any rollover issues while gaming, though if it's that important they also have PS/2 connections instead of USB.

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>>61225603
There are the 4704 model Fs, but those would run you about $350 total and require some modding

>>61225794
what difference would ps/2 make?

>>61225812
None. The 2kro is a feature of the circuitry since it's a contact membrane.

The old F's have NKRO because they're reading capacitance through a pulsed AC current instead of actual closing switches. PCB NKRO switched boards usually use diodes, different routing and lots of shift registers to get there.

Membrane can't because it's basically just traces.

>>61226082
Several rubber dome keyboards have nkro. Its just that manufacturers want to save $0.70 and use 2kro

>>61225013
Chinks will get instalove if they manage to pull a capacitive buckling spring switch which is also a discrete Cherry MX like switch.

Kira 96 with laser gmk is going to be my end game

>>61225802

Yeah I'd thought about that or a 122 key. Not intimidated by modding, but different than just plugging it in out of the box.

Still that price is the same as buying from this new production run.

>>61226426
Well the model F cost almost 1000 bucks back then in todays money. The new ones have even better construction then the originals hence the $350 price tag. The reason why the 4704 is expensive is due to the fact that it was a banking terminal, and as such they are rare and hard to find. The hardest ones are the kishy keyboards and those cost 1000 bucks even today, or you can get a reproduction for 400

>>61226426
You cant get a full size new production model F, and good luck finding an original F62 and F77 for that low of a price. Only 50 of them are known to exist and no one sells them for less than a thousand bucks

I know it's overpriced BS at this point, but anyone know where to get cheap Penumbra colorway? I just cannot for the life of me shill out 200 dollars for keycaps.

>>61226834
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/top-printed-side-printed-dsa-pbt-keycap-caps-for-usb-wried-mechanical-keyboard-104-keys/2230037_32813738267.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/white-and-grey-dsa-keycaps-pbt-blank-keycaps-for-wried-mechanical-gaming-keyboard/32793784962.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-product-150-keys-DSA-PBT-Perfect-Arc-Spherical-Keycap-Dye-Sublimated-Cherry-MX-Switch-Keycaps/32812093722.html

>>61226834
>I just cannot for the life of me shill out 200 dollars for keycaps

That's what they all say, then after a couple months of being dissatisfied with your crappy ripoff caps, you end up spending $100 on a GMK set, then $200 for a SP set.

But hey, at least the resell value for these things is pretty good. People are selling Plum right now for $180 when they were originally around $100 in the group buy.

>>61226947
>>61226947

Yeah, and mechmarket on plebbit loses their minds over SP sets and such. Used for ~180

>>61226947
>2017
>buying ABS keycaps

>>61226977
Where did he once say ABS in that post?

>>61226992
>he doesn't know

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wew lads the ALU68 finally here, 62g Ergos are HEAVEN. and this board is like 100x more quieter than the old magic force, i kinda miss the noise a bit

>>61225230
There is going to be a second run idiot

What do you guys think of the WASD keyboard custom sets? Think they are thick enough to not allow my leds to shine through the? Or are there better options for picking my own colors?

>>61227088
Hopefully chinks will stole their tooling and start to make cheap capacitive buckling springs.

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Hi guys

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>>61227256
They're crap.

>>61227475
Where would i go to get a decent set? Only other place ive seen is maxkeyboard. And they seem like shit too.

1) Budget
£120

2) Location
UK

3) Preffered switch type
Red, Green or Black

4) Layout
ISO

5) Form factor
100%

6) Backlight
Doesn't matter either way

7) Previous/current keyboard
Microsoft Sidewinder X4, had it for around 7 years now.

>>61227492
ebay?

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>>61226201
I thought the same thing when I got a HHKB and look where I am now

>>61205837
That's the look of PTB plastics. Get some decent PBT keycaps, anon.

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I have a Ducky One with blue switches.

Simple, clean, water **resistant**, nice for work and games.

I recommend it.

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I'm starting appreciate soft red glow as opposed to white
more of >>61227082

also is it possible to program through QMK to make underglow turn off when computer is shut down?

does anyone know some software that will allow me to rebind my keys for others like F1 to work as ESC and so on?

my esc key physically dont work and cant fix it. so its a problem in a lot of games

>>61230085
Sharpkeys

>>61230085
search for sharpkeys

Where do I buy nice cherry profile key caps. Aliexpress is kinda limited and searching gives me like 90% oem profile shit because "cherry mx"

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Soon?

>>61199876
What's the cheapest non-shit TKL mech keyboard? Are some switches cheaper than others?

>>61230158
search enjoypbt

>>61227088
The second runs ends this year moron

>>61230503
No they dont they end when the supplies run out... unlike you I am in regulat contact with the owner of the reproduction model f project. You are the idiot

>>61230965
And my dad works for Trump. He says Chinese embargoes are coming soon. You can kiss your chink shit goodby moron.

>>61231067
Love how salty you get when someone knows more about something than you do.

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>>61230272
James donkey 619 or 617. I forgot. They look like tonka trucks but they are high quality gateron keyboards.

>>61231067
>Chinese embargoes
At least make your lies believable. If we literally embargoed China we would be financially in ruin. We might be having a Tariff war with them soon though.

>>61207547
get some superlube off of switchtop or something and pull em out, lube both ends of the stabilizers. as far as i know there are two tabs on the actual stabilizer bit that you have to push and then you can wiggle it free from the plate.

>>61231220
You forget this is president drumpf you're talking about.

>>61231238
The wire running between the two posts will be impossible to remove without desoldering the switch in the middle first though.

>>61231249
Even the Republicans do not want a Embargo with Chinks. Bannon does not want it nor does any of his supervisors. He is retarded, but he will listen to his "well educated advisors"

Anyone got a good desoldering guide? I need to repace my stabilizers.

>>61231272
And even if he ignored them, I doubt an executive order on it would go unchallenged by the Supreme Court.

>>61199876
Why would I buy a tenkeyless shitboard

>>61231300
Because you don't use the numpad, duh.

>>61231318
except I do because I actually work and it is way comfortable to type with a numpad.

>>61231326
Then don't buy a TKL, duh.

Anyone actually buy keyboard sizes based on what switches they are?

-Blues 100% so I don't drag it around and annoy ppl
-Browns Any size cause I can drag it around and not annoy ppl.

>>61200301
>Mate, I've been to offices

Saddest attempt at a brag.

>>61231359
that sounds gay.

>>61231376
u gay

>>61231359
No, I buy/build keyboards of different sizes based on what I need from a keyboard.

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Thoughts on the quickfire tk?

looks perfect to me except for the small logo in the top right.

>>61202639
Vim

>>61231449
>vim
You mean emacs mate.

>>61231447
Have had one for two years, surprisingly no LED has died yet. Overall a nice and cheap mech.

>>61231447
The new CM Masterkeys Pro M is the same keyboard sans logo.
http://www.coolermaster.com/peripheral/keyboards/masterkeys-pro-m-white/

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>>61231447
Why quickfire TK when Masterkeys M exist? Also with update bottom row.

>>61231472
>The MasterKeys White Series employs an exclusive combination of rollover technologies for the most efficient, accurate anti-ghosting technology yet. N-key rollover works in tandem with 6-key rollover to ensure that every single keypress is correctly detected, no matter how many are pressed.
>N-key rollover works in tandem with 6-key rollover
What did they mean by this?

>>61231492
certain programs are finicky with nkro so to get around it they use a trick in which your keyboard is actually several keyboards with 6kro.

Which keycaps would look aesthetic on a full size chalk white Filco Majestouch 2?
It's my first mechanical keyboard so nothing artisan.

>>61231611
Miami

>>61231611
Miami, sunshine

>>61217629
bump for this

I'm getting DAS Keyboard 4 Professional with Cherry MX Browns and in ANSI
Is there anything wrong with that keyboard that I should know so I would want to kill myself for spending money on it ?

>>61230085
autohotkey

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>>61231611
EnjoyPBT

>>61231742
>>61231947
this is trash

>>61230158
search:
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kbdfans cherry profile
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cherry profile carbon
cherry profile dye sub

>>61232322
>browns
>DAS
wew lad. there are a lot of things wrong with that, but its your money so whatever.

>>61232486
I know what's wrong with browns, but fuck clicky blues
What's wrong with DAS doe ? Seems like apple of keyboards, but actually good, not just apple

>>61232322
If you like that, it's fine. But if you looking for keyboard with Cherry browns there are much better choice than that.

>>61232519
No, modern DAS is worse than Apple. They do less and have worse build quality than comparably priced alternatives and just ride on their brand name. Unless you absolutely have to have the big volume wheel and USB 3.0 hub you can get a much better keyboard and probably for cheaper.

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>>61232519
DAS has terrible build quality for the price they charge. PAD PRINTED KEYCAPS on a $100+ keyboard. They don't even use cherry switches anymore on their newer keyboards. Just get a ducky one with pbt keycaps since that has much much better build quality and more features for the same price

>>61217629
for $30-35 it's acceptable

>>61232519
look into gateron brown

>>61232519
cherry browns are absolutely terrible. They're nothing but scratchy shit with a tiny tactile bump. Cherry clears or gateron browns are a better choice.

>>61232671
I did, but those shits are non existant in my country for retail and when I asked for keyboard with them, I got no replies just Ducky and chinkshit
I'm getting DAS for ~100 euros so I don't mind it that much, since I'm not paying out the ass for it(at least compared to it's original price)
>>61232697
I'll have to try for myself how fucking huge of a meme this is, if they were that terrible, they wouldn't be in production, I hate how 4chan is always on the extreme sides, it's either the worst shit ever or the best shit ever

>>61232718
definitely try them before you buy them. it's relatively common for people to get disappointed with browns because they fell for the "non-clicky blues" meme.

>>61232718
The big reason why people hate mechanical keyboards is that they spend it on over priced shit like DAS and Corsair. Well it is your money so whatever.

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>>61232718
>chinkshit
Yet you buy DAS anyway. But hey at least you get a metal sticker

>>61232416
Weebtrash

>>61232823
>we got a glorified metal sticker on our keyboard
You fucking serious das....

>>61232718
> always on the extreme sides
Well if something is good then it is pretty fucking good. Why would you spend something that is considered subpar in our autistic spectrum when there are plenty of "good" ones on our spectrum.

>>61232718
I;m not sure where you live but have you checked in ali express? they have magic force there which carry gateron switches

>>61233147
actually massdrop is having a sale on gateron 68 magicforce keyboards for 40 bucks right now.

>>61232718
>I'll have to try for myself how fucking huge of a meme this is

i have tried both, you CAN feel the roughness of a cherry brown as opposed to smooth feeling of gateron when going down. but i think everyone might be exaggerating a bit as for me I didn't mind it at all. but it's there.

Also, another reason why we suggest gateron switches is that generally, geteron boards aren't overpriced like boards with cherry switches.

>>61233159
seems like he wants a fullsize and he's european since he's using euros so buying from massdrop wouldn't make sense since he'd be paying out the ass for shipping from the US

>>61233159
yah but im pretty sure Op will get his board faster through aliexpress. again not sure where he lives.

>>61232718
You should have brought Ducky then.

>>61232718
Whats wrong with Ducky. They have huge distribution channels all around the world with great build quality and plenty of features

>>61232718
Ducky from Taiwan though.
Ducky are well known for their quality and i still have one (albeit the ctl key sticks now for some reason)

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What does MKG think of the 1976 keycaps as far as qualty goes. They seem to be a real good price

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>>61234602
The SP set? they're the same as any other SA profile set. quality is good enough. doubleshot legends won't fade, and they're relatively thicc.

lot's of wobble tho