First, Ryzen failed Now, Vega turned out to be a huge disappointment.

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>Ryzen failed
>tripled their consumer CPU sales
>got major customers in the server market interested, potentially raising their marketshare in the server room 10-20×
yeah what a failure

>Ryzen failed
ok

>>61134274
>Ryzen failed

>>61134346
>>61134355
>>61134365
did you watch the webm? drake's disappointment is so obvious in the amd part.

>good price/performance
>failed

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>>61134274
> Ryzen failed

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>>61134274
>First, Ryzen failed
>Tries to be an nVidiafag
Looks like we either have an Intel shill in disguise, or an nVidiafag who has lost in touch with reality.

>>61134274
SAGE

Thanks for that webm I've been looking for it.

>>61134274
dumb niggerposter

>>61134455
THANK YOU BOLO

>>61134274
>First, Ryzen failed
kek, you're a fucking retard.

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>>61134373(You)

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>>61134365
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>>61134623
Ryzen suck on gayming even after the update.

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>Ryzen failed

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>>61134274
>every single thing said is wrong

>webm related
>a stupid nigger

aptly chosen

>>61135000
>MUH FPSSSSS
Get the fuck out, >>>/v/

>>61134274
>Ryzen failed
Good joke, anon.

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>>61134274
>Ryzen failed

>>61135000
What is bad about that?
>intel clocked 16% higher
>17% better performance

And games aren't even good multicore loads.

>>61134274
>the state of intelfags

>>61135000
>showing average fps
>not minimum
I bet you also think i5's aren't a total failure.

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>>61134346
>>61134355
>>61134378
>>61134383
>>61134415
>>61134623
All ryzen sales were just Bulldozer users who waited for something that wasn't shit.
Ryzen sales are already falling

>>61134346
>tripled their consumer CPU sales
>still being outsold massively by the 7700k alone

>>61135000
This, ryzen is not a good CPU if you are a gamer

>>61135127
You mean r7 isn't. r5 beats i5 handily as soon as you look at minimum framerates at not just the average.

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>>61135144
>r5 beats i5 handily
The 7600k beats Ryzens lineup in gaming.
.1 and 1% lows show no such dips on average.

Fuck, even Sandy bridge matches ryzen.

>>61135000
What game?

>>61135200
>The 7600k beats Ryzens lineup in gaming.
>the minimum framerate is literally half of Ryzen's
You didn't even bother looking at the picture you posted, did you?

>>61135200
>7700k stock is faster than the 5.1ghz one

Whut?

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>>61135200
GN shill ...

>>61134274
maximum damage control

>>61135246
Probably running at 100C.

>>61134274
Do you really think ryzen failed? I bought a 1400 for $150, specifically for light multi core cpu work.
What should I have bought? I can't get 4 cores 8 threads from intel for that price. And it overclocks okay(not like intel K chips for sure, but at least I CAN overclock it, unlike intels non K line). I think it's a great price for a good chip.

>>61135200
>126 FPS average
>25 FPS 0.1%
Please check yourself into the nearest mental ward

>>61135000
> dx12
Yeah don't blame the garbage api

>Ryzen failed
Get the fuck off my board shill.

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>>61135047

>>61137398
It's a drakeposting shitposter. Just report and move on.

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>>61134274
>ryzen failed
then you woke up and attempted suicide

>>61134455
THANK YOU BOLO

When the fuck is Volta.

Ryzen is a failure because Intel still keeps gaining market share in the gaymen crowd and that's the only market where AMD actually had a chance for a comeback.

>>61134274
>>61134373

Does being a shill pay good these days?

>>61138973
>and that's the only market where AMD actually had a chance for a comeback
Going for the neglected server, laptop and MOAR COARS on desktop market was a much better idea.

>>61134415
Dis^

>>61138988
in india it does

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>>61134274
Will Ryzen Pro fail too?

>>61135127
It's pretty great if you don't want to shell out for an I7, but want something better than an I5.

>>61134455
THANK YOU BOLO

>>61135201
tomb raider

Ryzens are good CPUs. Very proofed for the future like all amd CPUs.

>>61135080
>What is bad about that?
Ryzen can't clock for shit

>>61142356
Jewtoober Jay $0.02 had his at 5ghz on h20, or so he claimed.

>>61135200
You'll never see pubg ryzen benchmarks.

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>>61142356

>Gaymes
>Gaymes
>Gaymes
A fucking 1080ti could be paired with an 8350 or 2500k and the cpu wouldn't be the fucking problem.
If you are talking cpu for gaming you are a complete fucking retard.
>inb4 b..b..but I game at 720p and need 700fps.

>>61138973
This.
In a small unimportant market, that happens to be the only one amd has worse performance in, AMD is losing so it's over.

>>61142754
>A fucking 1080ti could be paired with an 8350 or 2500k and the cpu wouldn't be the fucking problem.
Sure thing retard. Also 8350 is a joke compared to 2500k.

>>61134455
Sankyuu boro-kun ^^

>>61142825
>8350 is a joke compared to a 2500k
Arguably in most scenarios, 8350 is faster for encoding and some heavily multithreaded applications. But the gap is nowhere near that of ryzen. nevertheless if you are getting sub 60fps with either chip it's your gpu.
>t ran a 8350 at 5ghz until like this year.

>>61135200
>gayming

who fucking cares
>>61142504
who also fucking cares. the game is GPU heavy and is programmed by literal retards

>>61142754
>A fucking 1080ti could be paired with an 8350 or 2500k and the cpu wouldn't be the fucking problem.
Bullshit. Even an fx9590 paired with any gpu will have issues when trying to play a lot of games.

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>>61142504
Yeah, bring up examples of the most poorly coded perma-early-release garbage you can possibly find.

>>61142504
good, that game isn't optimized for shit and won't run with smooth frames even on high-end hardware

t. 4c/8t intel corelet with 980ti

>>61142864
What? Give me one example of a game being cpu bound running proper settings, or even being below 60fps with a 1080ti at 1080p.
I ran an 8350 at 5ghz (so same thing) at 1440p and every problem I've had was my 780 and then 1070. Gaming at 1440 my performance matched benchmarks done with the latest extreme editions. In fact usually beat them with gpu overclock.

You can maybe find an outlier in total war or ashes of singularity but even then...

>>61142857
>who also fucking cares. the game is GPU heavy and is programmed by literal retards
When amd can't hit over 30fps in a game this is what I see. (about 200,000 current players a day = game is shit)

>>61138973
>gaymers seriously believe they are the biggest and most important market
Fucking lmao

>>61142921
Arma series, and battlegrounds are a "outliers".

my ruzen 1600 is pretty beastly at low cost cpu and mobo
what are you smoking

>>61142962
Battlegrounds was coded by a literal monkey.
Arma 2 is fine, but I'll take Arma 3 as an exception.

>>61142877
>Yeah, bring up examples of the most poorly coded perma-early-release garbage you can possibly find.
Only if reviewers where actually alowed to without triggering AMD's wrath you mean.

>>61142944
>muh popularity contest
It's fucking garbage, deal with it. I've seen streamers setting all the graphics on low even on their beefy rigs just get consistent FPS.

>>61143029
>Arma 2 is fine, but I'll take Arma 3 as an exception.
As long as it's all right with you then I guess it's fine.

>>61134432
THIS

>>61143049
It's one of a few popular garbage games that runs over 60fps on intel, but only 30fps on ryzen.

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>>61134274
>Ryzen failed

>>61134274

>Ryzen failed

What?

>>61134455
Thank you bolo

>>61134455
Good thing I dont use the front page

>>61135119

No, 7700K isn't that much of a seller you bloody idiot. It is meme-tier at best.

The majority of mainstream CPUs sales are laptop-tier shit. This isn't the 1990s and early 2000s.

Intel will weather the storm that Ryzen, Eypc and Threadripper simply because Skylake and Kaby Lake are going hold onto the mainstream market by being good enough and superior at power efficiency for portables.

>>61138973

You are a fucking idiot.

AMD never cared about the gaming market with Ryzen CPUs.

Ryzen and Threadripper was meant to go up against HEDT chips and they have successfully disrupted that market on Intel's side.

Epyc is about to rape the shit out of Intel's massive margins and marketshare in the server/datacenter market.

IMO, Intel's investment in AVX512 killed them. They are trying too hard trying to be beat GPGPUs at FLOP-depended workloads.

>>61134455
THANK YOU BOLO

>>61134455
Thank you Bolo

>>61135200
>in gaming
remember when people here didn't care about gaming and these retards got told to go back to /v/?

What the fuck happened to you idiots.

Holy fuck Drake is such a shitty musician ...

>>61145769
>AMD never cared about the gaming market with Ryzen CPUs.
That explains all the "gaymer" targeteted zen marketing.

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>>61134274
>Ryzen failed

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>>61135000
I don't see the issue here. Assuming it's a cpu test and they are all pushing something ridiculous like a 1080ti or titan, maybe a $300< chip on a $150< motherboard with a $50< cooler will hit 144fps average, while a <$200 chip with a stock cooler on a <$100 motherboard will run a solid 60hz.
I'd rather play no hassle ootb than have to delid and water cool so I can maintain acceptable temperatures while doing my blur free 360 no scopes. Fucking elitist gamefags

>>61134346
>>tripled their consumer CPU sales

nice lie, but AMD still isn't profitable even though it's been over 3 months since launch.

>>got major customers in the server market interested, potentially raising their marketshare in the server room 10-20×

nobody serious in the enterprise world is interested in epyc because AMD still hasn't managed to beat intel in perf/w. the only way they're getting any traction there is if AMD sells for so little that it comes at a loss.

>>61145939
All they've been saying is that it can do gaymen, which it can, especially when doing other stuff like streaming

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>>61134274
>people are attacking the "Ryzen failed" claim
>ignoring "Vega being a huge disappointment" claim
Hold on to your past successes so your current failures don't look as bad

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>>61146229
Sure that's what they were saying.

>>61134346
>tripled their consumer CPU sales
was another earnings report released ? no, ok then please stop talking out your ass.

This kind of hyperbole is exactly what lead to ryzen not being able to meet very unrealistic expectations in the first place.

>>61134455
thank you bolo

>>61143117
>It's one of a few popular garbage games that runs over 60fps on intel, but only 30fps on ryzen.
Gee, that totally seems like AMD's fault. It's one of the only games on the market where AMD is somehow much worse than Intel, so it clearly must be AMD's fault. Nope, no way the developers of an early-release/alpha/unfinished game are complete hacks that can't optimize for shit. It's clearly AMD that is at fault here.
Game has 200k players, so it must be good, right? Because gaymersxD are totally known for having great taste in videogames and are very informed about the technology behind it.

Fuck off back to /v/, you absolute mongoloid.

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>>61134274
> First, Ryzen failed
What timeline was this?

>>61146268
Because that's the part that's clearly false. He's not wrong in saying Vega is a disappointment, it fucking is, even the most blind AMDrones will recognize that shit. Go on any AMD forum or whatever and you'll see that even they know and publicly say so.
Ryzen, on the other hand, is fucking fantastic and turned Intel inside out. It's a huge market disruptor offering amazing price/performance and a lot of cores for cheap with good IPC for the first time ever. Threadripper targeting the high end isn't even out yet.

The Ryzen arch didn't fail, it's fucking amazing, and everyone is calling out OP rightfully for being retarded. The Vega part is obvious and everyone is aware of that already.

>>61146203
>nobody serious in the enterprise world is interested in epyc
Every major server OEM and several major internet companies are going Epyc, as was announced during the Epyc launch. This includes Dell, HP, Dropbox, Baidu (chinese google and almost as big), Microsoft, and a couple others.

Sounds pretty fucking serious to me.

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>>61135119
TIP Advanced Micro Dynamics

t'was a good run

>>61145717
>superior at power efficiency for portables
Not so sure about that one. Ryzen 5 can run on 65W at full speed. A lower voltage chip could be pushed to maybe 30-40W easily without losing much performance, and with a motherboard supporting p-state downclocking, they'd actually be pretty beast for modern laptops.
Besides, maybe then we'd finally drop the shitty 2c4t i7 memes that cost at least 800€. Fucking jews man.

>>61146288
Yup, not my problem if you're illiterate.

https://www.amd.com/en/ryzen-5

>Ryzen for gaming, Ryzen for streaming, Ryzen for VR
>Smooth Gaming and Advanced Multi-Processing Performance, High-Performance Gaming and Processing, Performance Gaming and Processing

>>61146412
Pajeet pushing hard that it's only the "one" game that right now like shit on amd.

>>61146675
Fallout 4 (lol shitbryo), ARMA 3 (poorly optimized crap), PUBG (beta trash), Farcry Primal (never got a patch)

That's all the games left that run really poorly on Ryzen. Fuck off.

>>61146653
>Ryzen for gaming,
Heh.

>>61142946

>AMD shill can't read

>>61146706
>That's all the games left that run really poorly on Ryzen. Fuck off.
Holy shit the list got bigger! Are there any other "outliers", or are these the only unpopular trash titles that are?

>>61146717
>All they've been saying is that it can do gaymen
Thank you for proving my point, Goldstein, but Intel expects better effort than that if you want your shekels.

Actually I just did the math using those graphs's data.

The whole Ryzen lineup is at ~5% marketshare right now

The i7 7700k alone tops out at ~4.1%

So yea.

The 1600 (non X) is giving the i5s a beating though

>>61146706
>That's all the games left that run really poorly on Ryzen. Fuck off.

all games run poorly on ryzen, the problem is inherent to the uarch and won't be mitigated/fixed until zen2 in 2019, if amd even bothers to improve their work instead of rehash like they've mastered in the gpu space.

>>61146717
>10% less FPS against Intel's meme micro hoven
>half of the price
>higher minimum FPS
>don't have to delid to get sub 60ºC temps on idle
>can actually OC quite a lot on stock cooler
Yea, fucking AMD, so shit at gaming xd

>>61146729
The list has gotten much smaller since Ryzen launch. Ashes, ROTTR and Warhammer used to be on there, too.

>>61142852

If anything as software moves to multi-core optimizations the 8350 will get a small bump

>>61146744
Normies don't want a new motherboard, that's why the 7700K is still the most popular i7.

Let's see how Coffee Lake will do against Ryzen

>>61146743
>Thank you for proving my point,
Was your point that amd heavily targets "gaymfags", or not?

>>61146760
>>10% less FPS against Intel's
30fps when an Intel can get 60+ isn't 10%.

>>61146780
If literally just saying "Ryzen for gaming" means they're heavily targeting gaymerfags, then yeah, sure

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>>61134274
amd is doomed

>>61146762
Aots was on there? I don't play it myself, but I'm surprised that it was on there since they cream over amd so much.
The list will grow once Arma 4 releases though, but then no one would care about Arma 3, and nobody cares about dayz, and other Bohemia titles, so those are permanently left out.

>>61146807
So who, and what are you arguing g against? Are you the anon saying that amd wasn't targeting gaymers, or the one claiming that amd was not?

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>Ryzen failed

>>61146817
>he didn't factor in the goldman sachs balls up.

>>61146799
>meme alpha pre-release early development games matter
There's a reason no one does benchmarks of that shitty game, pajeet.

>>61145939
Yeah, sure. That's why the main demos were Cinebench and Blender, kek.

>>61135200
ryzen supports 4000Mhz though now.
where is that patch installed.

because if i'm not wrong this is a old benchmark from apirl.

>>61146884
For some reason there's a hardcore contingent of military sim fans that always shit their pants about Ryzen not being able to run their poorly coded tacticool simulators.

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>ITT

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>>61134274
>Ryzen failed

Does Vega have SR-IOV?

>>61146901
>That's why the main demos were Cinebench and Blender, kek.
Don't forget about all the doom benches.

>>61146945
That was Vega

>>61146776
Mhm... shouldn't most normies ugrading rn come from Sandy or the like?

>>61146768
well this is recent enough and the FXs got absolutely BTFO.
It seems they're not aging well at all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76-8-4qcpPo&t=303s

On the contrary the Sandies thanks to faster memory than the 1333-1600mhz common back then, and killer OC still hold their ground*

*with all the limitation of only 4 threads in modern gaymen

>>61146967
nope, most of them come from a shitty Haslel core i3 on a cheap mobo

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>>61134274
>nobody serious in the enterprise world is interested in epyc because AMD still hasn't managed to beat intel in perf/w. the only way they're getting any traction there is if AMD sells for so little that it comes at a loss.

>>61146955
>That was Vega
and Zen. It wasn't that long ago Anon people still remember it like it happened only a few months ago.

>>61146203
Epyc destroys intel in perf/watt

>>61146203
>he didn't watch the Epyc release
lmao, even Microsoft is going to buy Epyc servers for Azure

Giving Vega one more month, if RX Vega launch sucks, it's over.

>>61134455
Thank you Bolo!

>>61146203
>AMD still hasn't managed to beat intel in perf/w
You know literally nothing about Epyc.

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On my way home with my 1600X waiting for me and I see this thread.

Kek

>>61147236
Nice cat.

>>61147236
You dun fuqed up

>>61147280
His name is blumpkin. He's turns 10 weeks old today. Born on 4/20 like Hitler :3

>>61138973
>Ryzen is a failure

I'm curios what the numbers from AMD will be for Q2 2017. I seriously doubt that Ryzen is a failure for them.

As for consumers, it's kind of a failure. There are still some issues with it. For example, if I run 5 ffmpeg instances with 6 threads at once then one or two of them _will_ segfault every single time.

>>61147704
You have the latest BIOS updates? I heard there was some segfault issue with compiling on Linux too, but I heard it was fixed.

>>61147704
Ryzen line has 5% marketshare, so not terrible but not splendid either

>>61147723
It's been on the market for what, one month? 5% on the gamer market is respectable in that timeframe.

It needs OEM and HPC wins though.

>>61147715
Yes, I have the latest BIOS. And no, it's not fixed. It's *better* with the latest BIOS but it's still, in my view, unacceptable. It's somewhat unavoidable, like don't run 5 ffmpeg's with 6 threads and don't run make -j18, just do make -j14 and it's fine. It's not the end of the world for me but it shouldn't be a problem at all. I absolutely wouldn't use a Ryzen system for something like a high-trafficked webserver or other critical production tasks.

>>61134455
Thank you bolo

>>61147847
Are you OCed at all? I read that having a high OC can cause the issue to occur as well.

>>61145939
>>61146288
>>61146717
>>61146807
>Ryzen CPUs can be used for gaming, along other things.
>LOLZ! THEY WERE TARGETING HIGH-END GAMING AND FAILED MISERABLY AT IT, LMAOOO!
Go kys already, thank you very much.

>>61134274
>FUCKING KEK
stupid shills

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>>61147861
No, no OC. I've - seriously - never done that to any of my systems ever. A stable system is way more important to me than some minor performance gain. We're not talking about some problem due to overclocking or anything like that, I don't care. If there was some minor adjustment in the BIOS I could do that would give me 5% less performance and a totally stable system then I'd do it. Right now it's fine for my use but as said, if I start very demanding tasks that try to use more than 100% of all the cores and threads then it will give segfaults. No idea why. If you search around, specially in the Gentoo forums, then you'll see that this is a pretty common issue that's not at all solves, just made "better" (as in the segfaults are happen less than before the latest AGESA 1.0.0.6 BIOS update - but it still happens).

>>61147987
Yeah, sounds like it has some sort of issue. They really need to get that shit fixed.

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>>61148009
I do have a hope that EPIC and Threadripper will push forth a solution (they are pretty similar platforms).

There's no way a corporate client is going to look at a platform and say "oh there's all these reports of segfaults at high load, we'll go ahead and buy 1000 of those chips for a production system that's critical for a big portion of our revenue".

>>61135116
I went from an i7 920 to an R7 1700x because Intel hasn't fucking done anything legitimately impressive since the first batch of i7s (and maybe sandy bridge)

I keep hearing ryzen supports 4,000mhz ddr4.
However,I keep seeing threads of people struggling to go past 3,000mhz.

What kind of magic allows 4,000mhz

>>61149584
New update. It used to be shaky getting up to 3200MHz, but now it's fine. Since it's fine, people are trying to go even further beyond.

>>61149623
I havent seen anyone go beyond 3200 though.
A few tech videos at 3600, but that's it.

>>61149584
Good mobo and good die (sumsung) on the ram

I seen that above 3200 increment is insignicant anyway

>>61142962
>Arma series, and battlegrounds are a "outliers".
why do mil sims and open-world survival games run like shit all the time? is it really impossible to make a game like that that runs consistently? I see people with literally "as much as you can spend" rigs tanking the settings in these games to get consistent performance.

>>61134346
Dell is already selling ryzen gaming rigs like hotcakes

>>61134455
THANK YOU BOLO

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>>61134274
>Intel shills getting this desperate

>>61134274
this webm is so autistic.

whoever made it should put knives in their anus immediately.

>>61134455
THANK YOU BOLO

>>61135000
>gaming
Opinion discarded. Go back to /v/

>>61142504
>pubg
>benchmarks
fuck people are retarded here now.

>>61153127
TFW you'll never see non GPU bottlenecked ryzen benchmarks.

>>61149696
>why do mil sims and open-world survival games run like shit all the time?
AI runs on one thread.

>>61153127
I played it, going from 2600 stock to ryzen 1600x stock 2133 memory.

It's seriously better running on 1600x. Personally I didn't expect that at all.

>>61135000
>Both games are sub 120fps
So, Vsync would lock them both at 60fps

>>61153194
this also reminds me

Several games I replayed since early May ran subjectively better than I remember at 1440p than with my old i72600. I didn't play many games though.

>>61153194
I jumped from a 4790k to a 1600x. Same experience. My ryzen 1600x plays this pubg game at a very buttery smooth 60+ fps on a 1440p monitor. Absolutely zero stuttering while streaming which is why I decided to upgrade from Intel.

>>61153194
Jumped from 2600 to 1600, I literally see no difference in gaming.

>>61149696
I jumped from a 2600k to a 1600x, and I have no issues running milsim now. You probably need to update your bios, and operating system my friend.

>>61153147
AMD has plenty of benchmarks that properly reflect what you might find in an end user's home.

>>61153147
>>61153194

>early access game from a korean mob who make mobile games
>using it as a benchmark for performance

>>61146817
>I don't understand valuation, trading, or market corrections: The Post

Nothing shoots up from $2 to $15 without a roller coaster ride to market normality.

Vega is a total bust from that pcper video

>>61153597
I played the pubg game on my AMD r5 1600x, and it is the smoothest gaming experience yet!

>>61153603
It does very well for not having drivers. Just imagine being able to play video games, and perform complex computing at half the price of a Quadro workstation GPU.

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>>61135000
As long as it's above 60FPS then it's fine. Most people own 60hz monitors so above 60FPS would mean really terrible screen tearing, better to v-sync that shit.

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intoddler corelets BTFO

Can't wait for the time when pajeets will become obsolete with their shitty (P)OOP software and the superior parallelism become mainstream in game/software dev

>>61153647
5960x at 3.00Ghz. Is the 5960x better?

>>61153647
>look mum, I only had to wait 3 years to beat a way lower clocked CPU from Intel!

>>61153711
>look dad, the 5960x is still 1000$+ because jewtel™ core inside hehe

>>61153645
>vsync
>ever
Only if you have adaptive sync of some sort (Freesync, Gsync) my friend.

vysnc alone = latency

>>61134346
>>tripled their consumer CPU sales
3*0=0

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pls post more intel shill webms like op's

>>61153597
barely working games should be used as benchmarks and indication of hardware longevity, anon
are you new to PC games? never played at 16fps before? missed on absolutely disgustingly bad running games from 2004?

how well hardware bruteforces terribly running applications is what matters
toasters can run optimized games

>>61134274
Fuck off, ryzen is good

>>61153299
dunno, I couldn't run metro at 100 fps
now I can
arkham knight had fps drops, now it doesn't
pubg runs 70 fps, barely ran at 50

pretty happy with 1600x for 1440p

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This thread is fucking click bait bullshit. Go fucking KYS, OP.