Nearly One in Four Windows Users Surveyed Plan to Switch to Mac

I used to prefer Windows over Mac, even if Mac had better technical qualities than Windows.

With the release of Windows 10, I'd much much prefer to use a Mac as well. Luckily, I don't have to.

>>61133186
That chart is very interesting

>>61133350
It says a lot that the most poor and the most rich want the shit system. Riches because who cares about money, but poor are delusional or are spending 1/3 of annual income to have a platform just for showing

>>61133186
I switched to Linux because of Windows 10 so good for them, anything is better than Windows 10. Microshart wont change unless their wallets start becoming light so just stop supporting them.

>>61133186
According to a recent survey held under 60 Apple iPhone users.

>>61133398
The fuck do you do with Lelnux?

There’s literally zero commercial software for the real world. It’s all retarded clones like Blender, GIMP and other garbage like Libre Office.

Go away neckbeard this is a discussion about real Os’s not Some memeOs.

Bullshit. This would mean Apple's marketshare is about to increase by like 300% in 6 months for no apparant reason.

Who the fuck did this survey?
I'm a macfag but come the fuck on, it's not going to be that fast.

Why are those poorfags buying macs?

This is all because of Windows 10. Everyone knows its only downhill from here and they're jumping ship before its too late. Apple never does wacky insane shit to macOS like Microsoft has done to Windows, its always stable, consistent and reliable. Incremental changes and refinements with every release.

>>61133514

They're students, retard. About to go to university or upgrading a Windows machine in university. They get student discounts. Use some initiative.

>>61133524
But Windows 10 has been out for ages and there hasn't been a mass exodus yet.

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>rich people are likely to buy Apple laptops
>you should get it so you look rich

From what little Mac OS I tried I liked decently. Not a fan of hardware

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>>61133550
are they just applying a flat $1000 markup on pcs to account for virus removal? seems legit

WINPLEBS BTFO

>>61133550
>total cost of ownership
outside of electricity it's nothing

and the t460 is acompletely different beast than a macbook pro

what are they smoking

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>>61133791
>>61133834
It's for business something you autstic neets wouldn't know much about.

Windows has absolutely no purpose being on anything other than a desktop.
t. Surface Pro 4 owner

>be using windows 10 since release
>no issues whatsoever
>does everything i need it to do
>runs every vidya game as well
>compatible with all the codecs i require for my animuus

I literally give no fucks about apple products or the raging hipster homosexuals that use them.

>>61133186
>both sides of the spectum has higher percentage

lmao they had to do it... kek

>>61133855
>>61133550
>>61133186
POO IN LOO

>>61133524
>they're jumping ship before its too late
They're 2 years late
>Apple never does wacky insane shit to macOS like Microsoft has done to Windows
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%27s_transition_to_Intel_processors

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I'll see you in 6 months and you can tell us all about how Wangblows lost 25% of its marketshare to hOmoSeX.

>>61133377
Exactly this.
The Mac is only good to show off how """"rich"""" you are. People who have money will buy anything shiny that symbols social status, regardless of how stupid or useless it is. Poorfags will do the same because the envy everyone and want to seem to be not as poor as they are. Sadly buying a Mac is the worst decision they could make since it costs them a considerable portion of their income.
Normal people don't give a shit about this and buy what's functional, Thinkpads and XPS's.

>i am rich beause i can afford a mac
>costs 2000
>meanwhile others buy cars for 200000 to show off
Wow, you showed them!

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>>61134000
Don't forget to laugh 6 months from now

>>61134052
>The Mac is only good to show off how """"rich"""" you are.
Then why do tech companies use them?

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>>61133186
lmao

Why doesn't Apple make a StealthBook? Their retarded ass branding is what's putting me off from getting a MBP. I would like to have a functional and polished POSIX system, but the fucking branding and horrible hardware choice leaves me with an XPS 13 running Gnu/Linux. I by no means have a loyalty to Linux, it's just what's available to me.

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>sixth months will pass
>Mac OS will still have the 0% marketshare on desktop that it has right now
>This study will be forgotten about, except for one "APPLEL BTFO XD" post on /g/

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>>61134131
>functional and polished POSIX system
Good joke.

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I'm a poorfag living in a 3rd world country in which windows machines prevail.
And I've seen more people it should be who install windows on mac.
How many are those people in other (not cucked by windows) countries? Are these people specific to our country?

>>61134113
Because they are retarded and retarded workers told them they demand Macs or they file for sexual harassment and rape because the company is not flamboyant enough.
Real companies use Lenovo/IBM and Dell.

>>61134146
That bug was fixed in 10.12.2

>>61133186
>http://www.vertoanalytics.com/chart-week-likely-switch-windows-mac/
>site implements smooth scrolling in code
Fuck them.

>>61133186
Also, consumers most likely to switch are in the poorfag categories.

>0-20k is two categories
>20-30k is two categories
>30-50k is two categories
>50-100k is two categories
>100-150k is one category
>everything above 150k is one category
The way they have split this up is shit.

>>61133186
Wait a second, that claim and that graph can't make sense together.

>Nearly 21 percent of current Windwos laptop owners and 25 percent of current Windows desktop owners intend to switch to a Mac within the next six months ...

Now the graph itself can't be a split of the group of people who plan to switch to Macs because the percentages total up to 115, so it must be the percentage of people surveyed in that income group that said they planned to switch to Macs, so 20% of the people earning above $150k said they planned to switch to Mac (which could be as little as 1 person out of 5 respondents), and the overall average must be less than 20%, probably about 12%.

Which means that about 88% of people they surveyed said they didn't plan to switch to Macs.

>>61134127
How will mactoddlers ever recover?

>>61133186
>nearly 1 in 4
>20% only in the largest group
>1:4
>20%
>nearly
What

>>61133498
>GIMP and blender are retarded
>LibreOffice is garbage
t. retard brainwashed by ads

The reason you don't see 4 in 4 Windows users switching to Mac is because you still have hundreds of millions of pajeets that shit behind the house...

And those are increasing the windows share thanks to thepiratebay and their stupid looking cheap plastic laptops.

>>61134806
I'm not a macfag, but fuck. You suck at mathematics.

Also.
Blender is good, but libre office and Gimp are utter garbage.

>>61133186
What percentage of the population earns 150k+?

>>61136034
Nothing wrong with libre office.

>>61134457
Can confirm, the company I work for gives everyone thinkstations from lenovo and dell business notebooks

>>61133186
That's MS btfo. 20% of Windows users are obviously intelligent enough to know when to abandon a sinking ship.

>>61133506
It's pretty much given that it's 20% of the Windows users who took part in the survey. You'd have to be pretty silly to go from that to 20% of Windows users worldwide.

>>61134806
Blender is decent but Gimp is beyond shit. Libre office is alright but the incompatibility with Office makes it worthless for most.

>>61136064
I recall 5% earning over 80k in UK, and doubt the situation in most first world countries is too different, so my guess would be 2-3%

>>61136143
So 150k+ earners would be a very small part of the mac user base

>>61133937
>posting in /g/
>using the botnet
>not even caring
Neck yourself stupid botnet faggot

>>61133377
Or more of...

Poor people want to improve their situation by buying a better tool, while richfags simply want the very best.

Middle class cucks are stagnating as ever since they are afraid of change.

>>61133855
Theres way more shit in in the microsoft stack though. Where is apples directory servers?

>>61136163
Probably still relative large compared to others. Besides, if mobile gaming should've taught is anything, it's that whales are what matter.

Jonny buying a Macbook every few years isn't worth much. Richard getting their entire shit from the watch to the iMac Pro due the ecosystem, upgrading every year and then spending thousands of bucks in the store, is what counts.

>>61136205
Nah, I'd say uni sluts buying the new iPhone and macbook ever year so that their friends will continue to associate them is apples bread and butter. Nobody with the brains to make 150k is gonna have an iPhone, 2 macbooks, imac and beats headphones.

>>61136236
Well, iPhones are where the majority of their profits come from but Stacy updates it with her contract biannually, and most people simply don't upgrade their laptops that often unless something new comes out. (Unless they earn enough) Also services are rising massively too, while Stacy probably contributes with Apple Music, it's Steven who needs 2TB iCloud storage for his gay porn. Besides, stuff like Apple Watch are obviously aimed for the the bored rich and is steadily rising.

>>61136277
>be rich
>make a choosing of your wrist mounted time device
>get a tacky looking 21st century Casio watch
>or get Rolex
Hmmmm....

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>>61133498
>muh commercial software
Yet all you do all fucking day long on your computer is sit in front of a fucking browser that works the same on every platform and launch your pirated Adobe Memeshop once every three days when you need to add caption to the hottest reddit pic so you can post a shitty thread on /v/.

Just stop posting

>>61136305
Rolex is for the grandpa or a rapper. The modern richfags wants some fancy tech to unlock his Macbook.

>>61136311
Projecting: The Post.

>>61136323
Bullshit. The only people I've seen with them are the faggots who like to pretend that they're nerds cause they watch big bang theory.

>>61136323
>Projecting: The Post.
Yeah I totally keep forgetting every single /v/edditor and their mother is a photo editor, video editor, music composer and an avid videogame player who runs geophysical simulations in their free time.

>>61136347
Rich faggots. Nobody else would spend 400-1000 bucks for a device as pointless.

Well, you get a better OS definitely

If you're the gaymer type sure, you might still want to be stuck on Windows. But if you're buying something like a laptop either linux or macOS are superior choices. You can do most shit on macOS (it is just not as much of a walled garden as some people make it out to be) and it's pretty fucking good on laptops. I own an X220 I'm trying to sell (because I don't use it at all) but hackintosh was pretty decent on it.

Now, a macbook a decent investment I'm not too sure, but I would grab one to be honest, as long as I knew which model was better because it seems that a new one doesn't guarantee better quality anymore.

I'm pretty sure windows 10 pushed many people towards macOS because it's that fucking shitty.

>>61136168
>>better tool

For what? Pray tell.

>>61136821
Emptying their bank accounts and remaining poor.

>>61136143
>>61136034
>incompatibility with "office"
It's fully compatible with open office standards. Why should it be 100% compatible with proprietary formats? You have WPS for that.
>gimp is beyond shit
It's not that bad. It's not meant to be a "Photoshop alternative". But it's good enough for image editing. My gf uses it exclusively for that. Not to mention it's UI is much better than PS.

>>61136088
I used it for years.

When I switched back to Ms office (tm) 6 months ago, it was like a dream.

>>61137099
>it's not meant to be a "Photoshop alternative"
But everyday is shilled as that in this and other places.

>>61136821
Whether it's simple shit like browsing for job apps or learning new skills, hell even something as simple as emails or online banking, a more secure, faster (due better UI) and stable system is always preferable to a crappy one that might crash at any moment and needs you to waste time on main-stance and causes stress. Besides, fagbooks tend to live much longer.

Jesus, even just for leisure they are a better option because of it. Wouldn't want to watch gay porn and then have your laptop to start a forced update only fail it because of some antivirus software, leaving you blue balled, which would cause more stress back at work, make your performance suffer and lower the chances of that promotion.

>>61137099
>Why should it be 100% compatible with proprietary formats?
Because whether you like it or not (I sure as fuck don't), they are THE standards. If your shit is slightly more important than a message to grandma, you can't really afford to ignore them. Besides, most people learned how to use Word and as similar they are, there is a learning curve.

In professional environment ... well ...
https://arstechnica.com/business/2014/08/linux-on-the-desktop-pioneer-munich-now-considering-a-switch-back-to-windows/

>My gf uses it exclusively for that.
BDSM and masochisms are pretty popular these days, eh?

>>61137264
>munich shit again
This is confirmed irrelevant. They've been switching between operating systems for a decade. And they were actually re-making a Linux OS from scratch instead of using SUSE, RHEL or even Ubuntu.
Basically, the employees are retards.
Here's the )you(

>>61137321
>Basically, the employees are retards.
That's a fact of life. Hence your software is supposed to make things easier.

For what it's worth, I worked for a company that went with Ubuntu and while the admins never had to worry much about real issues, the office drones got confused by the shit and asked for help all the fucking time. Sure, most were old but kids these days learn how to use MS Office and Winshit in schools and Libre/Loonix just aren't as intuitive to replace it and often not worth the cost savings from licenses.

MacOS is a pretty decent example how you can do something else and still make it work, because the UI is so great.

>>61137131
Every photo editing software is compared with Photoshop. PS is the most known creative software on the planet. So of course free software entuahists compare Gimp with Photoshop.

>>61133524
This.

>>61137392
>aren't as intuitive
They're the same. Your definition of intuitive seems to mean "they aren't IDENTICAL".

>>61137476
>They're the same.
They are similar enough not to scare people away but different at small bits, ruining the entire experience at some point. Imagine you open a menu and suddenly the mouse buttons are inverted. That's how most people feel coming from MS Office to Libre. Stupid? Sure, but acknowledging that doesn't solve the issue.

Also just for the record, personally I do prefer LO or at least Writer due the customisation.

>>61137195
>if this happens then this other thing happens that leads to this other thing happening and that ruins your life
Amazing slippery slope, no real argument.

>>61138018
Small things can have a big effects, who could've guessed. Just ask your boyfriend.

>>61133524
Bull-fucking-shit. Apple has been pumping their desktop OS with mobile and iCloud shit for years while neglecting basic shit like SMB. It's been all downhill since 10.6.8

>>61138144
You are never forced to use it and most of the features are useful even if you don't want to buy cloud storage.

MacOS now is still pretty much the same it was 5 years ago with some small improvements that are very noticeable like tabs in finder. Windows went from a normal desktop OS with 7 to a tablet abomination with 8/8.1 and then and mix up out of both with 10, which begs you to buy their crap.

>>61133550

>macs are cheaper than Linux Thinkpads

This is probably one of the biggest brazen lies I've ever seen. Probably even bigger than the holohoax.

>>61138241
I'm trying to get work done not FaceTime my mom. They've given the professional community a giant middle finger for awhile now, but at least Stacy has her emoji touchbar now.

>>61138262
What kind of work do you do where the changes affected you negatively? I know couple people who bitched about the new security features but outside of them, everyone was happy. Most are Adobe fags though, so SMB isn't a big deal.

>at least Stacy has her emoji touchbar now
The touchbar is ... work in progress, maybe someone will come up with something useful but the touchid unlock is a decent addition.

>>61138345
I'm connecting to 8-10 different servers throughout my daily workflow and the SMB support is a total fucking joke. I will literally go out of my way to use a windows box at times simply because it will actually load the contents way faster

>>61138345
Touch bar is a pretty good idea to be honest. It's just not revolutionizing anything. All it really does is instead of function keys you can see the actual function displayed. I don't think it's inferior to non touchbar it's just that it's only barely better.

>>61138443
>I'm connecting to 8-10 different servers throughout my daily workflow
Heh, yeah, okay I see how that would be a fucking pain. Only have to connect with my homeserver ever few months or so, so it never bothered me too much. Though aren't most issues due the security protocol?

>>61138542
What is there really to revolutionise about a laptop with current tech available?HiDPI screens were probably the last big improvement, and the forcetouch trackpad is a decent step up Afterwards what is there to do on the hardware side beyond the usual improvements like battery life/performance/screen quality, and maybe 120Hz next.

Surfacebook had an interesting approach to combine tablet and laptop but the CPUs aren't efficient enough to make it work yet.

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>>61138243
>i'm a poor ass pajeet Applel shill

pic related

>>61138766
>selecting win10
Literally stopped readind right there and then

>>61133186
>I'm sick of getting throatfucked!
>I'm gonna get assfucked instead!

>>61138766
>Linux thinkpad
>WINDOZE
>the thinkpad costs more than a MacBook
>SELEKT ALL THE SOFTWUR AND HARDWUR
Literally kys

>>61138766

Don't get me wrong, i hate the chinkpads and WannaCry Pro 10, but LMFAO at adding $2k worth of Adobe in the configuration.

MacBook Pro is worth this price because of the insane built quality (don't talk shit until you play with it) and MacOS. You don't need to compare it with other plastic junk.

Just like you won't compare a Porsche Panamera with a riced up Nissan. I don't give a fuck about the maximum speed. I want a balance, a perfect one, and MacBook Pro offers it.

Until then, have fun losing your data with some ransomware.

After windows 10 I switched to Arch/win7/hackintosh setup
To clarify, I had to reformat since FUCKING WINSHIT TEN DECIDED TO INVITE ITSELF ONTO MY SYSTEM AT NIGHT AND FUCK EVERYTHING UP

Most people that used mac and windows prefer mac, this is a fact

>>61139081
Can confirm from personal experience. Although it took me half a year to really appreciate it. Was during 7 times though, now with 10, vidya and poorfaggotory are the only excuses not to flee from this mess.

35k master race

>>61133855
That's a brutal fallacy - the costs on Windows are higher because Windows offers more stuff. For example Azure is counted as an expense, but macOS doesn't even have an alternative to it. Of course you can lower support costs that way, but you're just cutting away features, not implementing a better/cheaper alternative.

This is like me saying templeOS has zero network management costs, simply because it doesn't have networking at all.

>>61138992
>the insane built quality
Components come glued to the case. This "omg build quality" is a myth, people are just impressed at how well the aluminum is machined, but in terms of actual built it's just above average.
>MacOS
Package management sucks compared to Linux. You have to juggle around pkgsrc, pkgupdate, pkgutil, brew, macports, etc instead of having a single PM that manages everything and has the ability to add repos for anything.
>(don't talk shit until you play with it)
I did.

>>61139405
If you compare it to Loonix, you can also include the lack of commercial software there, which can be a deal breaker. Otherwise it's more about preferences than objective benefits.

The topic is MacOS compared to Winshit though and they choice is simple unless you're a gaymer.

>>61139556
>Otherwise it's more about preferences than objective benefits.
How is proper package management not an objective benefit? I'm not saying I like the titlebar color more, I'm saying I can add repos to my main package manager.

>The topic is MacOS compared to Winshit though and they choice is simple unless you're a gaymer.
But you yourself mentioned commercial software support, guess which one has (vastly) more?

>>61139405

I don't give a shit about how the components are being put together just like i don't give a shit about how is my girlfriend's interior put together(the organs, the guts, the blood and the shit look far worse than some glued silicon components)

I only care that it works.

Also, get the fuck outta here with your Loonix Toons piece of shit useless OS. I need to work and make fuckloads of money not crack router passwords and generate ascii art.

Where's the Adobe Suiit ? Where's the Office suit ? Why would i waste my time with dependency hell ?

I need a well built machine that offers me robustness and security, regardless of the price, since i'm buying it for long term (3-5 years)

>>61139617
>rah rah rah things I don't care about don't matter
>package management doesn't matter
>gluing components to the case doesn't matter
>photoshop matters
Ok dude.

>>61139617
>I need to work
Lel

>>61139597
>How is proper package management not an objective benefit?
Yeah, I've could've worded it better. Whether you experience benefits or not depends on the user case. If you can get all the shit you need from brew alone, the juggling doesn't exist for example. If you have to do a lot networking, Linux is more comfy and so on.

Sure, in the end the package management in Linux is objectively done better but it's 100% irrelevant for some graphic design student, just like MacOS superior UI would be irrelevant for some IT fag who never leaves the term.

>But you yourself mentioned commercial software support, guess which one has (vastly) more?
Most productivity software there is on Windows, is available on MacOS. Obviously if you need that one niche thing that isn't available everywhere else, the whole OS question is irrelevant since you don't have much of a choice.

>>61139711
>If you can get all the shit you need from brew alone
Ok, then I can use the exact same argument to counter the lack of commercial software in Linux. Why would a CS student, or a backend dev, care about lack of Adobe software?

>>61139617
>draws for money
> work
back to 'work' pajeet

>>61139736
For a CS student there is still muh UI and all the continuity stuff, as a potential boon. Besides, less time wasted on customising. Oh and Keynote can be of use and beat the open sores alternatives. If you got an iPhone it's a no brainer either way.

Also blue bubbles.

Although the point obviously stands, if you don't need all that shit, there would be not much of a benefit from MacOS compared to Linux. On the software side. On the hardware side, your options for a non shitty 16:9 screen laptop for muh productivity are extremely limited. Though given Apples shitty Loonix support probably not much of a pro if you want to use Linux on it.

>>61139850
>For a CS student there is still muh UI and all the continuity stuff, as a potential boon
Is this a joke? You can do a CS degree almost without leaving the terminal.

>Besides, less time wasted on customising.
Entirely your opinion, I definitely spent more time customising macOS than Fedora.

>Oh and Keynote can be of use and beat the open sores alternatives.
>Also blue bubbles.
What does this have to do with CS?

>On the hardware side, your options for a non shitty 16:9 screen laptop for muh productivity are extremely limited.
So are my options for a mac, this generation had 3 models.

>>61139885
>You can do a CS degree almost without leaving the terminal.
You can but it's unlikely you're going to use your laptop just for that, hence the other stuff CAN be an advantage, if you happen to want them. In the end it goes back to the needs of the user.

>this generation had 3 models
Well, that's the thing, there are 3 different Macbook models and 3 from MS with a decent aspect ratio. And all of them have mediocre Linux support. Surely a con if we look at the overall picture of software/hardware.

>>61133186
I don't know how many people are in each income group, but the highest percent of likely switchers are the >$150k which I assume is fewer people than the ones in the lower groups.
And if we take those people alone, only 20% want to switch (1/5 for you americans), so how the fuck did they come up with the "1/4 want to switch"?
According to the chart, it is more likely the number is 1/10 who want to switch

>>61140025
> hence the other stuff CAN be an advantage
How can UI be an advantage for CS specifically? I mean, you probably picked the area where it's most irrelevant.

>In the end it goes back to the needs of the user.
Well but this kind of breaks discussion. I mean I can present a laptop that objectively wins in every category, and anything can be brushed off with "yeah but I don't need that". You also only brought this up when I mentioned package management, because before that you mentioned commercial software support with no mention of user needs, but all of a sudden when I bring up an area where Linux wins irrefutably, the "but some people don't need that" comes up.
So to be clear, an advantage either exists or it doesn't. Whether you in particular need it or not is completely irrelevant. I can find a blind person with no need for a screen, that doesn't mean having a screen on a laptop is subjective because it depends on user needs.

I also wouldn't buy a MS laptop. I think the XPS is the best I've used.

>>61133186
What was the wording used in the survey?

>>61138073
ad hominem won't help your shit argument, friendo.

>>61140156
Because unlike a backend dev, a CS student is less likely to have another device, so having one that can do other things better is nice.

>Well but this kind of breaks discussion
It was silly in the first place. Blame my idiotic procrastinating for jumping into it. Sure, you're right about advantages being objective but they can be meaningless depending on the user case. So the whole "my OS can do this, this and that" is at best of use when someone is still deciding about their priorities.

I heard Mac OS X is amazing for playing Flash games and browsing the internet, is this true?