why is "it just werks" such a selling point? for the

Because normies
Now gtfo to /v/

>>61103826
not HDMI compatible

>>61103842
>trip
Now gtfo to /out/

Try buying Starfox 2

>>61103826
>why is "it just werks" such a selling point?
Because if it doesn't "just werk" it's literally useless to 90% of the population.

I don't know about you, but when I buy something, I genuinely enjoy spending two weeks debugging why the piece of shit doesn't work.

Nothing give a my life meaning like spending 50 bucks on something that works intermittently orgas to be cobbled together to get it to work sometimes.

"It just works" is the fucking standard for consumer electronics for a fucking reason.

>>61103826
and the advantage of that being ... ?
any of those preloaded games costs as much on eBay as the SNES mini itself.

for that price normies could have a Rasberry pi emulating any system with any game... except Stafox 2.

>with games
youd be suprised

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>>61103896
>implying that any effort whatsoever besides pic related is needed to make an snes work

>>61103826
The supply of real consoles is limited, popular games can be expensive, plus the mini has HD output.

It just looks cool and not everyone is a poorfag.

I'd buy one if I still had a TV

>>61103904
if you're going to play on an emulator with input lag on an hd screen on non original hardware, why not just emulate at that point

>>61103826
at least half of the games on it are over $100 on ebay, plus it contains a brand new release that thee are no cartridges for.

>>61103902
lol. Nice bait

>>61103924
literally how is that bait anon

>>61103916
Normies don't understand emulation, plus playing on a big TV with the proper controller is just better.

>>61103943
emulation has never been easier though

>>61103939
Everybody here should know that adapter won't work in the way you're implying.

>>61103952
Still too difficult for most people. Either that or they don't even know what it is, or are scared because it is "illegal".

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>>61103954
alright, fine, that's fair. how's this work for you?

>>61103968
OK. Previous points about the cost and availability of used consoles still stand though.

>>61103877
Who gives a shit when you can just emulate it for free? If they've done any additional work to it for this release, the ROM will be dumped hours after people get their hands on the hardware anyway.

>>61103902

> Implying that actually works

>>61104015
>>61103968

>>61103863
My TV isn't as well, so no problem.

>>61103997
It's a novelty product that plays into nostalgia. If you don't want it, don't buy it.

>>61103997
You could say that about anything though, given enough time. Star Fox 2 is the only reason I'd consider buying one desu

>>61103899
Is it a new game or the same unreleased starfox 2 that has been around for years? because you can emulate the latter, it's on my Wii.

>>61103968
that converter costs more than the fucking console

>>61104095
what sort of TV doesn't have AV though

>>61103826
Is this thing just an emulator?
My phone from 2012 could emulate SNES.
Why would anyone buy this?

Because look at Windows 10

It just doesn't werk

I mean it works, but you know

>forced updates
>telemetry
>two control panels
>ads and shit you don't want in the start menu
>candy crush reinstalling
>steam uninstalling

>>61104085
>unreleased starfox 2 that has been around for years
Yeah, an incomplete, unreleased beta. This is the completed version.

>>61104066
too bad every star fox game is shit lol

>>61104108
because Star Fox 2 for the 9046589234685th time

>>61104118
t. linux user

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>>61104134
>people ACTUALLY think Nintendo finished the game instead of just patching in a the end screen after the last level that was completed during development.
Kek

>>61104144
>patching in a the end screen after the last level that was completed during development
that's still a finished, released version of the game

>>61103902
the TV would need to have Component over HDMI it is not standard functionality on any TV or monitor

>>61104161
you do realize that a nearly complete build of the game was leaked like a decade ago right?

OP, let's attribute it to consoles.

In this case I think that classic SNES is quite pointless because it doesn't even use the real hardware.

Anyways, 2 decades ago people were used to buy a console and play games. That's as simplistic as it got. You got your goddamn cartridge, your console, you turned it on and at best you would have a fucking music player on the PS1-- whatever, you know what I'm talking about. People wanted that, and people loved that.

These days, consoles have these fucking menus, online connectivity out the wazoo and even ingame stupid crap that no one should seriously bother with. I see people getting sick of it, and nevermind older people which don't even understand why this has to be a thing.

Same thing with OSes, computers, phones, whatever. Many people want tools and entertainment, that's it. They don't want to have to put extra time on shit that is not even good for their own health, let's be honest. They want a computer where they can easily fuck around, browse the web, write some stupid shit maybe, listen to music, chat with people. They don't want some stupid popup about how they introduced this new feature that is able to display ads on their fucking desktop, or that they have to use measures to stop the system from updating whenever they want to turn on the PC to realize that, oh shit, this thing isn't turning off for 3 FUCKING HOURS.

If your hobby isn't primarily fixing something, you shouldn't have to fix something. It's someone else's job or entertainment. If you bought a product that is advertised as "it holds candles" and it doesn't hold candles often, you feel like you've been scammed, and you don't want that. People want some things straight to the fucking point.

Yeah. A modded Wii and a classic TV would have been a better option, or a raspberry Pi. But why bother someone to take the effort, or even take the effort to look for ROMs that are now being taken down, and for ways of displaying the goddamn thing right?

>>61104169
where the fuck do you think I played it? in my mind?

>>61104186
but the NES mini that everyone went so crazy about can be modded to have an SNES emulator built in. It's not even hard, there's a program the LITERALLY takes care of everything for you. Is this beyond the basic ability of the average normalfag? You just follow the directions and click start

>>61104200
then why the fuck would you buy it again you stupid shit?

>>61104221
how could I buy something that was never released? who did I pay, the ROMburgler?

>>61104237
if you can download it right NOW and play it on your computer for FREE, why would you buy an emulation box for the same game?

???????????

>>61104211
Well, that's because the NES mini (and likely this as well) is pretty much a Wii with certain modifications. It has similar hardware so it would be able to handle emulation of quite a few platforms.

But yes, yes it is. People don't want to fuck with stuff, no matter how simple. Modding a Wii or a 3DS these days is stupid easy, but I have to tell you, there's a lot of people who will never do it even if they're paid to do it.

>>61104250
i probably won't desu, i don't want the starbox 2 that bad

>>61104169
No, dumbfuck. Document yourself before shitposting.

>In a neat twist, it would be during the production of Star Fox Command that Cuthbert was re-acquainted with his past, ill-fated project. "During development we received a copy of the mastered Star Fox 2 ROM to play, and it was quite a blast." This ROM would have been the final game, complete with QA tweaks and ready for a release that never happened. Cuthbert is keen to point out that this version is far superior to the numerous leaked prototype ROMs which are currently doing the rounds on the web - the leaking of which has been erroneously attributed to himself. "There are a few ROMs on the net in various conditions," he states. "But the ones I checked out are all old and they don't have the randomizing Rogue-like stuff working or all the encounters in place, so you don't really get the feel of the game we were making."

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/06/feature_the_full_story_behind_star_fox_2_nintendos_most_famous_cancellation

>>61104338
to his credit the dumbfuck never said the most complete version in existence, just nearly complete

>>61104250
you can't
it's not the final game that has leaked

>>61103943
Really? All my normie friends play emulated gameboy games like pokemon on their phones

As several people pointed out, people don't want to fuck with stuff.

Look, I'm one of you. I've been in /g/ for like 10 years. I used to be a small time sysadmin making $42k/yr. I spent my days posting on /g/ and literally installing Gentoo. I now make $140k/yr.

Now that I have a wife and kid and responsibility and stress out my ass, my time has become incredibly valuable. I have an original wii with a mod chip and all the emulators, but man that is nowhere near as simple as this snes mini, which I will be buying, over paying even if I have to get it on eBay.

You don't have to dick with 15 clicks and wade through 200roms, this thing will turn on instantly and you just pick the gsme. It's wife proof, kid proof, and will maximize my time and satisfaction. You guys don't appreciate this because your time isn't valuable to you yet, but as you get older it will be.

>>61103826
>for the same price you could buy a real SNES with games

At least not, where I live...
>RARE *** SNES SUPER NINTENDO WITH 1 CONTROLLER AND 1 GAME *** RARE *** VINTAGE *** SHIT
>yellowed snes which looks like some1 ran over it with a car
>third party controller with chew marks
>some shite sports game / game nobody gives shits about
>80€ super special price only today

Nobody sells this stuff cheap anymore. You have to be lucky, cause most people know by now what that is worth
Gen.5 consoles are the same. 6th is kinda cheap know but already rising. Fleamarket is the only chance getting it somewhat cheap.

>>61103896
>Plugging in stupid RCA jacks
wow so fucking hard

Meh, I don't value my time so much but I'm lazy. I never got into raspi and I'd do the snesbox with 100€ nuc. Then I'd have to learn with 15 minutes of googling which emulator is the best and how to properly configure the image. Then learn the emulators settings, configure pad and autistically ponder if I use snapshots or in-game saves. Then spend half an hour to surf porn.

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>>61103896
I genuinely enjoy trying to make shitty products work.

Now those NES minis are 200€ each where I live.

It's dumb. The Wii is the perfect console if you want SNES emulation + 240p on a budget

>>61105375
>>>/g/

>>61104095
It costs 8$.

>>61104577
>wife
>have
>i

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>>61106306

>>61103842
gtfo to kill yourself worthless tripfag

21 games
fuck you

I think most people are just buying it as a fashion statement. They'll play two minutes of Mario or whatever and just leave it on a shelf so they can show off their "nerd cred".

>>61103902
Well at the absolute most basic level you'd also need some additional adapter for sound so nice try I guess

>>61103826
But a real SNES isn't as small and cute!

>>61106531
They trademarked "It just works" and not "it just werks". So OP is in the clear.

>>61107153
Full HDMI converter is like $6-15 with shipping from China. So really, no problem.

>>61103826

"Just werking" is critical functionality to the vast majority of the populace. Most of us value our time at >0, so we can't spend our day trying to figure out how to get baseline functionality out of a widget when we have other shit that needs to be done.

Imagine if you were buying a brand new car that didn't "just werk"

Imagine your laundry machines didn't "just werk"

Imagine if your fridge didn't "just werk"

But you people think you're some special cut above the rest? For what, because you can google for a solution when your chinese knockoffs don't "just werk", and you think that somehow makes you better than the rest of the populace? Grow up.

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>>61104886
>tfw got my non-piss stained SNES for 10€ at a flea-market

One day you'll get lucky, too

>>61107250
I think being able to google a solution to a problem where most people just go out and buy a new problem does make a person better.

>>61103968
that is a hdmi to av, you idiot
you need a av to hdmi

>>61103877
You can make a Starfox 2 game with a Super FX cartridge and a flashed EPROM

What the fuck is this.
How do I insert my cartdriges in this thing?
Wait, what do I care, I still have my SNES if I ever want to play old games.
Wait, I'll just play it on emulators.
Who the fuck buys this shit?

Just werks = convenience and convenience is a massive selling point in this "I want it now" world. Something that comes out a box and works instantly with one button press but costs a lot of money wins over something that requires a little knowledge and time but is completely free. This piece of shit also has manchild nostalgia attached to it but even without that it would still sell because it's pleb friendly. About the only demographic who would struggle to use it would be the elderly because they're mostly technophobic.

>>61103826
Does it even matter?
It's gonna be sold out in seconds and scalped out the ass like the last one.

I've never even seen an NES classic in real life, and I don't know anyone who managed to get one either.

>>61109125
I've seen one at a thrift store. 250 bucks.

>>61103826
It is going to come with Star Fox 2 which has never been released.

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>>61103968
>output is component
>input is HDMI

>>61103826
Packing a real snes and 20 games in my suitcase isn't feasible, but this is.

>why don't other people have autism like me?

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>>61104577
this

shut in gigaNEETs just don't get it.

>>61103863

Those old games look better on a CRT anyway

I'm pretty sure that there's at least one area in your life that you aren't an expert in and that you depend on things that "just work".

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>>61103842
>tripfag is actually once for right

>>61103896
>I genuinely enjoy spending two weeks debugging why the piece of shit doesn't work.
obviously "it just werks" is the main selling point because the majority of normies aren't tech inclined, but come on man, 2 weeks? an rpi with some emulators shouldn't be taking 2 weeks

>>61103902
those things never ever work

>>61104577
so why would you waste precious time on games ?

>>61108588
cheap ARM SoC with an SNES emulator in a little plastic case

>>61103826
not everyone has the time or are actually capable of getting a raspberry pi and printing a case and plug it.

the real selling point is keeping hte nintendo scalpers employed making sure artificial scarcity and the impression nintendo products are more sought after in public consciousness.

>>61109621
Input is composite with stereo audio, output is HDMI

>>61103842
i can tell by that fact you are a tripfag that you really want that post to be attributed to you

you're real proud aren't ya

real proud of that post

>>61103826
Because IQ 100 is basically retarded normie

>>61104211
yes. normies are retards, that have heart attacks at the thought of doing this. sister and her friends were freaked at me putting nova launcher on her phone, after resetting it.

this shit is magic to them, they are the modern superstitious peasant.

>>61110365
It says input right next to the HDMI port

>>61103867
Stop sending namefags to /out/

>>61104299
The nes mini is just an ARM shit box

>>61103877
Try buying fucking half the games on the list for the same price. Impossible

>>61111824
It's been 30 years, a complete torrent of every single SNES game ever released is only 500MB.

>>61103842
FPBP you faggot

>>61103896
>linux user detected

>>61103826
Most normies only have HDMI these days.

>>61112835
>500MB
maybe for one region
i see torrents for 1.6GB sets, and that's all 7z compressed, so it's likely about twice that size as raw roms
of course, that's still pretty easy to download on modern connections, even if you were ultra poor and somehow still on dialup it would take you around a week to download them all (not that you're likely to even want most of them)

>>61112978
>>61112835
to be fair some of the torrent packs contain romhacks and other edits

>>61110193

>It looks better when it's blurry

Then keep a jar of vaseline next to your LCD and smear it on when you play.

>>61112999
that's true as well
i believe the point is that getting snes games is not difficult by any means

even this very page, with 4chan X and things included, right now is 514k of data, which alone is bigger than a number of compressed snes games

>>61103826
>why is "it just werks" such a selling point?

Really? Because most people don't want to have to fuck around with something to get it to work and are willing to pay for the convenience.

>>61113017
yeah, snes games in a 40' lcd tv are so sharp

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>it just werks
>oh god why isn't this working? is it broken?

>>61113342
looks like these people should stick to their modern "go here, do this, press x to win" linear shooters
figuring out what to do by yourself was half the fun, and it's evidently lost on them

>>61113017
Yeah, that'll fix the aspect ratio, refresh rate, scan lines, input lag, etc. . .

I will preorder it because of my childhood memorys I had with my SNES and I dont care about 80€. I will probably use it a few days and then it will gather dust like my PS4.

>>61113773
why not just use your current snes?

>>61113342
Yeah!

>>61103899
normies cant setup a raspi anon.

>>61104365
show them a raspberry pi and tell them to do the same

see how many "wow that sounds easy"s you get
(I mean unless youre in uni and all your normie friends are cs majors)

>>61114458

A raspberry pi can't emulate SNES without latency issues.

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Easy nostalgia.
Modern connections.
Novelty of a cute, mini console.
Nice, fresh in the box item, vs someone's faded (or custom paint job) SNES with childhood grime caked in the crevices of the controller.
Try finding a complete system with as many games, if not the same ones, that isn't all sports and Super Scope 6 for the same price. Don't forget to add up the shipping if you're buying them from a dozen different sellers.

>EmulationRaspberryPiMuhphone
You're not the target demographic, deal with it.

>>61113342
Thank you for pointing out all that is wrong with modern gaming.

>>61113644
-- and if anyone is wonder what the other half is, it's execution. actually performing the thing once you've figured out what it is you're doing

many modern games fall flat on that as well with "quick time events", which are about as involved as navigating a DVD menu

>>61103826
>why is "it just werks" such a selling point?
Because no one wants to solve problems that are already solved to prove anything. And if the problem isn't solved, then why bother. Unless I'm getting something other than the satisfaction for getting it to work, then it ain't worth nothing

>>61113342
that was a really good game, any good snes emulator for linux ? does snes9x run ok on wine ?

>>61103917
>What is a reproduction cartridge
>Every SNES emulator can emulate the SFX chip

>>61103889
What? Being useless =/= not working.

Unless we're talking about niggers.

>>61103960
RetroPie preloaded with a thousand games sells for under $100 on eBay

>>61114833
>does snes9x run ok on wine
this is how people know you didn't even try to find out, snes9x is available natively for linux

Because you're average parent doesn't want to spend their christmas eve installing linux or retropie when they could buy something that just works.

>get steam link
>emulate from desktop
>have exponentially more utility than a NES without fucking paperboy, not to mention whatever this lacks

yes I am mad

>>61115461
I mean, that's not any better. To be honest, I would rather have this thing than that. You've got emulator lag, display lag, and network streaming lag in that chain.

At least you cut one of those out with this. I would prefer using Higan on something as it's likely to be better than the SNES Classic based on the NES Mini, but this is is an OK solution for a lot of people.

Because Opportunity Cost you videogame playing manchild.

>>61113017
are you retarded?

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TIME IS A VALUABLE THING
WATCH IT FLY BY AS THE PENDULUM SWINGS
WATCH IT COUNT DOWN TO THE END OF THE DAY
THE CLOCK TICKS LIFE AWAY
IT’S SO UNREAL
DIDN’T LOOK OUT BELOW
WATCH THE TIME GO RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW
TRYING TO HOLD ON BUT DIDN’T EVEN KNOW
I WASTED IT ALL JUST TO PLAY SUPER MARIO

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>>61104237
>who did I pay, the ROMburgler?

>>61104355
to be fair it's not like someone won't extract that shit as soon as possible.

>>61103826
>>>/v/

We come to this board to get away from people who even want to attempt to disect Nintendo's business practices.

They pander to mentally deficient nostalgia junkies with no common sense or indeed intelligence.

Let the children play with their toys.

>>61117820
MUH DICK

>>61103826
.....or you could buy a $10 SNES ripoff controller and use it with an emulator on PC. If no one buys this trash, it won't be done again with other consoles.

You're a fag, if you burn 500$ on pseudonostalgia.

Get

a

fucking

wii

It's easier and cheaper to handle than a fucking rpi3

It emulates NES and SNES as good as it needs to at the right resolution

It works with your autistic CRT TV perfectly

It even works with some random USB controllers and PS3 gamepads

Even a normie could mod the Wii and install RetroArch on it for fucks sake

couldnt u make a super cheap PC with every retro console game ever (pirated) for like 50 bucks?