>VW will beat him in the electric car game >Boeing will

>>61097504
>solar is a meme
>hyperloop is a meme
you fucking retard

>>61097504
That's fine, at least he gave space and electric car industries a shakeup.

>>61097551
Hyper loop is going nowhere, really.

>>61097551
hyperloop IS a meme

>>61097504
>VW will beat him in the electric car game

Are they going to sell a gas car that pretends it's electric when tested?

>>61097599
Better the gasoline will be used to power the generator from there the power will be stored in lead acid batteries which are they used to run the main electric motors.
>German Engineering

>>61097701
sounds very inefficient.

>>61097504
Solar is a meme?

Hong Kong just ran a one month test to power the entire city on renewables for 30 days and it was a success.

The oil cucks are literally on suicide watch now.

>>61097729
>The oil cucks are literally on suicide watch now

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-10/saudis-to-seek-bids-for-700-megawatt-wind-and-solar-projects

oh really now

>>61097504
Without him none of those would have happened. It's capatlism at its finest, he just needed to start the competition.

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>>61097504
>>Solar is a meme
You folks in the Appalachians really need to move on before coal is dead and done.

>>61097960
not the number one fan of the system, but i'll say i see the merits of competition like this. too bad almost everything else just becomes oligopolies where there is none.

>>61097504
Not really, as long as he's promoting competition and stirring shit up in the first place he'll be an icon

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>>61097504
BMW is already beating him at the electric car game

and blue origin will beat him to mars?
just say it

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>>61098276
>Der kleine und leise 2-Zylinder-Benzinmotor treibt einen Generator an, der den Ladezustand der Hochvolt-Batterie konstant hält, sodass der BMW i3 weiterhin rein elektrisch fahren kann.

Translation: The small and quiet 2-cyllninder engine powers a generator which can keep the battery voltage constant, so that the BMW i3 can keep running purely on electric power.

I don't think they quite understand what "running purely on electric power" means.

>+ that tiny range when driving at max 50 km/h

>>61097551
hyperloop is fucking ass backwards retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk

but solar is pretty viable, although I don't know about his battery banks, I haven't done enough research.

One man is contesting all of those.

>>61097504
>>VW will beat him in the electric car game
The biggest hurdle the German automakers face in going to pure electric will actually probably come from their own unions. The German autoworker unions, particularly in some of the suppliers, are fairly resistant to automation. Electric drivetrains are much better suited to the kind of automation and efficiency gains that that would spell trouble for their workforce.

>>Boeing will beat him to mars
>The lazy B beating anyone to Mars
Let me guess, you've never worked in aerospace before.

>>Google will beat him to transhumanism
I agree. Good thing he's besties with Larry.

>>Solar is a meme
Incorrect.

>>Hyperloop is a meme
Agree. Good thing Musk has no personal or financial involvement with hyperloop.

t. SpaceX wagecuck

I don't think Elon Musk gives a fuck if someone "beats" him. He just wants it to get done. Yes, I do have evidence and citations to back that up, but I don't feel like proactively offering them. If anyone's really interested, I can make my case.

>>61100697

Ooh, a clickbaity YouTube video. Color me convinced!

>>61097504

Dude, at least say that China will beat him to solar. That might actually be true.

>>61097890

No, not them. They literally can't lose. They're so rich that losing is mathematically impossible. They'd have to be Donald Trump to start with that much money and still go bankrupt.

>>61100682
>i3
[spoiler]House fire[/spoiler]

>solar is a meme

You understand we have go find a new energy source asap right?

>>61097504
>Solar is a meme
You're retarded
>Hyperloop is a meme
Superconducting Maglev is a high speed system actually making progress instead of that shit
Dunno about the other two so can't comment

>>61100778
Did you watch the video friend?

>>61097574
>>61097583
There are actually funded plans already for a hyper loop between Vienna and Budapest

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>>61100778
>requires structural support to hold its own weight
>final version will be decompressed to 99 Pa, near perfect vaccum

Why are Musktards so delusional?

>>61097504
It is incredible how often gullible retards on Reddit fall for this guys bullshit. He's a great salesman who can talk a big game but fuck if he delivers on any of it in the next 10 years.

>>61100891
But he's delivering.

>>61100863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_1208316643&feature=iv&src_vid=RNFesa01llk&v=DDwe2M-LDZQ

>further arguments against Hyperloop, not "clickbaity" videos like some ad-homineming idiots are claiming

>>61097504
He still has the boring shit.

>>61097504
>VW will beat him in the electric car segment
Debatable, only time will tell.
>Solar is a meme
Plz anon, at least do some research. Solar is excelent because of how simple it is and how it's price/energy has been dropping dramatically in the last few years.

>hyperloop is a meme
Yeah, i'll give you that.
It is a meme untill proven a practicall use.

>>61097504
>Poor guy he'll be a footnote in the history books
He will be the prime example in being fooled by an obvious succubus.

>>61100902
>subsiding on government subsidies to keep Tesla afloat, I pay for some upper-middle class douchebag's niche vehicle with my taxes
>Hyperloop is a fucking terrible meme
>battery banks cause just as much environmental change and are just as unsustainable as mining for fossil fuels

The only thing this hype machine is delivering on is reusable rockets, and from a functionalist's perspective it's practically useless.

The other positive to all of this is capitalist competition burgeoning the market for alternative energy sources.

>>61097713
It's actually more efficient than driving the wheels from the petrol motor.

>>61100956
>>subsiding on government subsidies to keep Tesla afloat, I pay for some upper-middle class douchebag's niche vehicle with my taxes
You do realize that the subsidies Tesla has received are a literal drop in the bucket compared to oil/gas industry subsidies. Not to mention the $10+ billion the car industry received in bailouts during the recession.

>and from a functionalist's perspective it's practically useless.
How so?

>>61100956
>functionalist's perspective it's practically useless.
How? Instead of building an entirely new rocket every time you need to launch shit you can reuse the same one. Wtf are you talking about.

>>61097504
>>Boeing will beat him to mars
Boeing has no incentive to go to Mars, they're just a contractor. Their hardware won't go to Mars until NASA is ready.

>>61100768
>t. SpaceX wagecuck
Do you really work at SpaceX anon? What's elon like?

>>61101153
I do. He's pretty normal but I don't interact with him much except for meetings.

>>61100768
pls giv letter of rec thanks

>>61100977
You don't have an argument if all you're going to do is spout arguments tu quoque.
>>61100995
Great! Now we can keep sending millions of dollars to some floating tin can that does nothing to tackle issues like the rampant pollution and degradation of our environment or the extreme levels of poverty and lack of sanitary conditions that the majority of this world's inhabitants live in. But dang, at least we can livestream some billion dollar rocket club project!

>>61101227
Just get it from your professor. Any kind of engineering club activities go a longer way than recs though.

>>61100886
This

It makes no sense. Look how this pipe has to have reinforcement and it doesn't contain a vacuum.

This is what a minor failure will do to the hyperloop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz95_VvTxZM

Solar energy isn't a meme
Manufacturing the panels in the US, though, is a meme

>>61101232

>millions of dollars

You *colossal* faggot. I don't even know where to start. The United States government spends millions of dollars a *day* actively destabilizing parts of the world that don't have food, money, or sanitary conditions, just because it's all a big fucking geopolitical chess game to them, and they can't bear the thought of a world where they aren't in charge of everything.

The same government hands out literally billions of dollars in incentives and tax credits to individual corporations every single year. Not only do corporations not pay taxes, they pay *negative* taxes. The government pays *them*. Every. Single. Year.

Have you ever seen NASA's budget on a pie chart depicting the United States federal discretionary budget?

No?

Do you know why?

Because it's *too small for you to see*, you gaping, cock-gobbling cuntmouth.

>>61100976
Yeah, so is walking from an energy-perspective, you dumb nigger. That doesn't make it better.

>>61102970
It depends though.
If you are driving in town then it definitely makes it better.
If you are driving up hills and on the motorway a lot then probably not so much because of the weight of the batteries.

>>61097504
>>VW will beat him in the electric car game

VW aren't even releasing an electric car until 2020, and it'll only have a 400km range.
Current Teslas can drive over 1200km right now on a charge.

>>Boeing will beat him to mars

Space-X launch rockets to the ISS on the reg, and have proven reusable boosters that land themselves.
Boeing haven't even launched a single mission yet.

>>Google will beat him to transhumanism

Lol, with what? Google Glass was a magnificent failure.

>>Solar is a meme

Within the next 5 years, every new house will have solar storage systems in a lot of countries, and Solar City are already selling complete systems for pretty amazing prices.

>>Hyperloop is a meme

He's building it, probably have a commercial system in place from LA to Las Vegas by 2020.

>>61101331
>>Posting a well known internet fake video

Good argument, anon.

>>61097504
He made all of them get from their lazy fat asses and start contributing. I'd say it was worth it.

>>61103164
>Google Glass was a magnificent failure.
Yet its getting updates now.

>>61102363
>You *colossal* faggot. I don't even know where to start. The United States government spends millions of dollars a *day* actively destabilizing parts of the world that don't have food, money, or sanitary conditions, just because it's all a big fucking geopolitical chess game to them, and they can't bear the thought of a world where they aren't in charge of everything.
/pol/
>The same government hands out literally billions of dollars in incentives and tax credits to individual corporations every single year. Not only do corporations not pay taxes, they pay *negative* taxes. The government pays *them*. Every. Single. Year.
/pol/
>Have you ever seen NASA's budget on a pie chart depicting the United States federal discretionary budget?
Who cares?

>>61097504

Solar is really a meme, buying Solar City was a noob decision since it's practically free energy, Chinese competition (therefore corporatizing and trademarking it is senseless) and big oil murika chopped down subsidies and incentives to sell back to the grid

afaik the main issue is the amount of gov subsidies he's receiving

>>61103347
>>61103359

Not even mentioning pulling out of the climate change pact recently

>>61101232
>waah b-but the poors

It's not like SpaceX or NASA not existing means that we'd help the poors any more than we already do.

>>61100697

THANKS FOR THAT YOUTUBE VIDEO. THAT TOTALLY CHANGED MY MIND.

I MEAN WHAT DO THE SCIENTISTS AND CEOS OF HYPERLOOP EVEN KNOW AMIRITE? loloolklololloolollol1

Please kill yourself today. stop wasting the oxygen needed to fuel hyperloop

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>>61103410
>I MEAN WHAT DO THE SCIENTISTS AND CEOS OF HYPERLOOP EVEN KNOW AMIRITE? loloolklololloolollol1

Theranos also had a bunch of swanky scientists.

They're now being investigated by the FBI.

Stop worshipping the authority of scientists, cuck. They can be paid off to be shills as well.

>>61097504
Even if you right, which is not, he would stay in books as technological "arms race" accelerator.

>>61103410
But he IS a scientist.

>>61097504
Still millonary

>>61101232
leave my forum, you filthy treehugger

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>25000km+ long vacuum tube inside which a long, rigid train moves with only a few mm of clearance from the walls

You don't need to be an engineer to understand how stupidly impractical this is.

>>61097551
China monopolizes the global rare earth minerals/metals market that the last American rare earth mining company shut down because they couldn't compete.

Solar panels and electric car batteries are a meme that rely on China just to exist.

>>61097504
>>61097504
Musktards still in denial that Elon Musk thinks building underground tunnels in Los Angeles so cars that take forever to ride an elevator to reach shitty one lane tunnels, is somehow a smart idea.

>>61103625
Good news is if the train brushes against the tube and decompress the train inside anyone lungs will explode. It will be very fast death.

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>>61097583
its a fucking meme because the tunnel networks havent been built yet

loop dee doo only works underground

>>61103410
Brainlet detected.

>>61100778
>injecting Trump in a discussion about Musk
Shut the fuck up you miserable cunt

>>61103164.
>Current Teslas can drive over 1200km right now on a charge.

What

I really don't see the point in the hyperloop, putting all this money into actually GOOD roads and charging on the go would be much smarter since it's all based on existing, proven technology.

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There is a rumor that Musk is working on a rechargeable ZPM. He got mad watching Atlantis that they were always out of power.

>>61097504
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/06/spacex-has-answered-a-lot-of-its-critics-this-year/

>>61100682
Waiting for the i5 desu, maybe the i7 if it has hyper-cylinder threading

>>61097701
Isn't that just a hybrid without the ability to switch to using the gas engine?

Elon Musk will never be the best at anything, because there are no consequences if he doesn't. He keeps burning through cash on everything he does, and people keep giving him more, so there's no incentive to be efficient with the money, or be the best at something. He'll just keep spending other people's money until they stop giving it to him.

When there's no consequences for wasting money, there's no incentive to become the best.

>>61103248
Mythbusters proved a small dent can cause that kind of collapse.

>>61097504
Even is this is true he at least forced them to compete

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>hyperloop

Only delusional yuppie yesmans can defend this

Next SpaceX launch July 2nd.
3 launches in fucking 9 days.
With only 2 launch pads.
They'll have 3 by September, and 4 by the end of 2018.
It's over, nobody can compete with them anymore.
That's even if they were just throwing out rockets.

>>61097504
>a footnote in the history books
far more than you'll ever be, OP

>>61100778
>Ooh, a clickbaity YouTube video. Color me convinced!
retard

>>61097551
hyperloop will never happen

>>61097504
he is spread too thin, he should focus on 2 or maybe 3 things

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>>61103164
>Vw aren't releasing a car until 2020
Are you retarded?

Hyperloop is a massive meme and there have been excellent videos to explain why. All you need to know is that the world's largest vacuum chamber takes hours to empty and any Hyperloop system would have a vastly larger volume.

>>61097551
>solar
>not a meme
nice ror, see you in 20 years

>>61097504
>VW will beat him in the electric car game
>Boeing will beat him to mars
>Google will beat him to transhumanism
FUCKING GOOD

Someone had to step up and kickstart this shit into gear, businesses only work off competition and they've only just woken up because some guy is blazing a trail they haven't tapped into.

Did the USA land on the moon for the good of mankind? No it was to beat the Ruskies.

>>61097504
how vw is going to beat him? by showing that their cars needs only AAA on tests while in reality they need a tokamak?

>>61100697
Thunderfoot is a meme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJa9tQyMXDc

Whenever he is refuting something, either that thing can be refuted by common sense or basic and he brings nothing useful to the conversation, or it is viable but requires nontrivial engineering which is not his area of expertise. The hyperloop video is one of those cases, where he ends up using arguments to incredulity instead of actual math and him being right or not is essentially a coin flip.

>>61097504
One of the few billionaires around the world that actually deserves his wealth because he at least tries to better humanity.

>>61097504
>solar is a meme
Just need a cleaner way to produce the panels, which is in the works. There are stores that run entirely off of solar power, it's definitely capable of powering homes and worth the investment. Of course, we'll always need other sources of energy because solar power is less efficient in winter and doesn't work at night, but still.

>>61111022
There's newer technology in solar that moves away from silicon to a pizo type and improves efficiency over 30%.

They caught him with his asshole around the tailpipe of his Tesla.


TELL ME I'M LYING. I DARE YOU.

>>61111174
Tesla's don't have tailpipes.

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>>61111235
Simulated tailpipe?

>>61111405
That entire lower bumper is from some gaudy tuning company, not Tesla.

I see a lot of anons here keep repeating that Musk shouldn't waste his time or money on hyperloop since its a meme. I agree that its a meme but are you people completely unaware that Musk doesn't have any financial stake in hyperloop? He isn't actually involved with any of the hyperloop companies at all.

>>61103686
Yeah, his underground highways idea is pretty stupid. With that being said, the tunnel boring industry probably needs some outside competition. I wouldn't be shocked if something good actually comes out of the work being done at the Boring Company with regards to cheaper, more modular and reusable TBM's.

Also, I'll let you in on a little secret, the main reason he got interested in boring is so that we can make an underground tunnel across Crenshaw going from our main building to our main parking garage. Crenshaw Blvd is a pain to get across, especially at night when people drive stupid fast. We were going to build an overhead bridge but since the reused F9 was put on display at the corner, and because the city wouldn't allow it, I think due of potential closings of Crenshaw during construction, a tunnel makes more sense.

>>61108792
He really is only primarily focused on 2 things, Tesla and SpaceX. I would say he spends about 70% of his time at SpaceX. Once the Model 3 ships in quantity I expect him to spend even more time here. The Boring Company is just a fun side project for him, OpenAI doesn't require much of his time, Neuralink is still in very early stages and he mostly just overseas that as an interesting investment, and he has zero to do with any of the hyperloop companies.

>>61111688
but was he really caught with his asshole around his Tesla's tailpipe?

Asking on behalf of that other anon.

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>>61097599

>>61111826
Not to my knowledge, no. But as the other anon said, Tesla's don't have tailpipes and stock Tesla's don't have ugly simulated tailpipes. Musk drives an ordinary model X.

>>61097729
>Hong Kong just ran a one month test to power the entire city on renewables for 30 days and it was a success.
Really? Were are the batteries?

>>61111688
>>61111903
who are you

>>61103649
Solar panels don't use rare-earth metals dumbfuck.

>>61112004
A human. What do you mean?

>>61111174
>>61111826
Why are you guys so obsessed with Elon Musk's asshole?

at least he's the one who can be credited with pushing these technologies

>>61112438
i think they're asking to see how it feels
anal stimulation is a pretty lucrative market these days
just look at bad dragon

>>61112579
Neuralink needs to start work on an embedded prostate massager.

>>61112438
>>61112579
>Elon can's the best.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/21/people-are-dropping-25000-to-get-anal-botox

>>61112625
Wtf are people doing with their assholes that requires reconstructive surgery? I've been having anal with my wife for over 8 years now, we're both 32, and her asshole is still sometimes painfully tight, painfully tight as in it actually hurts my dick.

Admittedly I am a 6.5x6 inch dicklet but still, we usually have anal once a a week. I don't get how all these poeple are getting injured if they are prepping properly.

>>61097504
>>VW will beat him in the electric car game
germanigger cars suck shit
>>Boeing will beat him to mars
boeing is too busy making nuclear spy planes
>>Google will beat him to transhumanism
hes part owner of deep mind alongside google
>>Solar is a meme
t. oil cuck
>>Hyperloop is a meme
t. oil cuck

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>vw makes my dream car
> it's super rare and expensive

>>61112763
That's a very cool car. Have you ever seen one in person before?

>>61103558
retard. the CEO was the scammer you mongo

>>61112887
No but you make a good point. I will try and see it auto show

>>61113054
>the CEO was the scammer
@ElonTheScammaMusk

>>61097551
Solar isn't a meme and will probably just be dominated by China

Hyperloop IS a retarded meme though. Americans just need to rediscover high speed/bullet trains for passenger transportation.

>>61113080
I've never seen one either but I'd love to. I forgot about it until you just brought it up.

>>61111688
Why would someone who works at SpaceX post here?

>>61113122
idk man his company made reusable rockets. that seems like a pretty neat and tangible deliverable. And teslas work as advertised more or less. I wouldnt really call that a scam

>>61113183
why not? autists come in all shapes and sizes

>>61113323
>concepts that don't get any actual thorough use
WHAT A GENIUS OMG TOTES NIKOLA 2.0 OMG FUG ME WITH THAT THICC MUSK DIKKU

>>61113149
Best panels in the world come from US then Korea.

>>61113359
Well, in my defense I don't actually suffer from autism but I still find 4chan to be a fun place to waste some time.

>>61113389
>>concepts that don't get any actual thorough use
what do you mean by this? the spacex rockets seem to get thorough use.

>>61100682
>I don't think they quite understand what "running purely on electric power" means.
Not that guy but the petrol engine is an optional extra. There have also been mumblings of a longer range all electric version to be released "soon".

>Waaah I want the world to be dominated by the old rich so they can kick me like the good slave I am

Memes aside model 3 is looking like a very nice electric vehicle

>>61115274
I've seen a couple cruising around Hawthorne and even with the camo they look pretty nice. The overall size seems quite a bit better to me than the model S.

>>61115274
Except for the complete lack of real world testing like every other auto manufacturer performs.
Ask British Leyland how well not testing their autos worked.

>>61116066
>Except for the complete lack of real world testing
How so? Pretty sure they have to do all sorts of testing to get certified for sale.

>>61101232
Yeah, who needs GPS amirite?

>>61100768
is the pay good anon ?

>>61116899
They didn't though. Tesla did use many common parts though to reduce risk. Practices like this is what causes Leyland reliability problems in the 80's and a bad rap even after the issues were fixed.

>>61116899
You're thinking crash testing

>>61117290
I'm pretty sure Tesla drives their cars on test tracks and logs tons of miles on open roads before they sell them.

I'll give you the other categories, but Boeing beating him to Mars? Look at his rocket design versus Boeing. Boeing's is a fucking joke.

For example, SpaceX's Falcon 9 rockets are fully reusable meanwhile the brain trust at Boeing and Lockheed have an absolutely retarded proposal for their Vulcan where they reuse the engine only by ejecting it and catching it in mid-air with a helicopter. Literally the kind of tacticool nonsense a child would come up with.

Of all the shitty companies out there, SpaceX has the best shot at Mars. Realistically though, humans on Mars will never happen in our lifetimes.

As long as we get electric cards
And get to go to Mars
And become transhumans
And find better energy sources
And find better transportation systems

I don't care who does it first. Just get it done.

>>61117420
Protip: Elon Musk won't do any of that.

All that happens to him is that his soul gets sucked dry by Amber Heard.

>>61100697
I agree that the hyperloop is a meme but thundercuck is a moron.

>>61100697
>listening to thundercuck
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4wck43/hi_were_mostly_engineers_here_at_hyperloop_one/d65vo9b/

>>61117804
You have to go back.

>>61103597
HAHAHAHAHAHA
thundercuck sure as fuck isn't a """scientist"""

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>>61117826
>no AMA-style anything anywhere for hyperloop shit but on this one reddit

where the fuck else are we going to ask tesla engineers

grow up fag

>>61097504
>Boeing will beat it to Mars

Friendly reminder that ULA got BTFO twice in 48h last weekend.

>>61117670
>be building air and spacecraft
>cant build hyperloop
Thundercuck completely lost all respect i had for him with that video.
Musk is a smart guy, he cashed out on sxam projects like solar panels and electric cars, but at least now he has a private space program.

Hyperloop can totally work though, and be like taking a plane but cheap and without having to wait at the airport and having yoyr butt probed.

>>61108330
Still more expensive than a 60 year old Soyuz launching out of Kazakhstan SpaceX Shill.

>>61117962
>Still more expensive than a 60 year old Soyuz launching out of Kazakhstan SpaceX Shill.

Delusional.

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>>61117987

>>61117885
>Thundercuck completely lost all respect i had for him with that video.
>ever having respect for an ugly atheist libtard kike

I bet you like NDT too you cuck.

Hyperloop will not work for the same reasons that high speed rail will not work in America, and the rest of the world already has high speed rail so they have no need for the hypermeme. It working has nothing to do with practicality.

>>61100726
This

Y'all are crying that he is getting beat by all the other companies but don't realize that if he never would have done it there'd be no progress in these sectors.. Or atleast very little. He is aware that he has competition and that was his ultimate goal.. To create healthy competition and it fuckin works.. Get your shit together people.. This guy is a genius

>>61111405
utterly retqrded

>>61106854

It's called topical humor. Sounds like somebody's butthurt that their president sucks.

>>61108104

Except he already is demonstrably the best at launching satellites into orbit. Which, by the way, means he'll also be the de facto best at providing low-latency satellite internet to the entire planet(s).

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>Americans call liquid petroleum 'gas'

>>61097504
Like he cares. hes just in it to milk every project dry

>>61097504
>boeing will beat him to mars
no. boeing has meme powerpoints and that is all. SLS will fly once every 3 years maximum and is a fucking flying stack of wasted money.
>Vw doing anything ever
no
>hyperloop is a meme
yet it works and is being built
>solar is a meme
yet its being built and it works and solar city is successful
>google will beat him to transhumanism
the entire point behind his investing in AI companies is that he wants to keep a malignant AI like google's project from succeeding not that he wants it to be produced. Google is not investing in neural interfaces Elon is.

Fuck off please

>>61097504
>ITT : /g/ being butthurt at successful innovator

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>>61100682
now they need to make an i7 7700k model that catches fire by just turning on the car

>All these Musk shills.

Just what I expected. Tell us more about how SpaceX created their rockets all on their own and will totally get to Mars. Yup. The company that can barely get into LEO will send people to Mars. Genius. In the mean time, tell us more about how Hyperloop totally isn't a meme and how the Boring Company will totally solve traffic.

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>>61100682
>we've heard the feedback from fans, and thus we are releasing BMWs new i9 this holiday season at $999999.99 (fire insurance not included)

>>61118512
lol it's more about the tech it has

>>61108798
don't all of BMWs electric-vehicles cost more than the competition given the performance, and they all need anti-gimping addons aka pay to make it a shitty hybrid that runs on gas? might as well just get an older prius that costs 1/10 as much and goes 400 miles.

>>61104435
A source other than your ass?

>In 1966 a technician at NASA Houston was decompressed to vacuum in a space-suit test accident. This case is discussed by Roth in the reference above. He lost consciousness in 12-15 seconds. When pressure was restored after about 30 seconds of exposure, he regained consciousness, with no apparent injury sustained.

>>61097701
Offset by the fact that it has to carry the weight of an extra engine.

>>61119339
Nobody knows if he sustained any injury though because MRI was not available until 1977

>>61118490
Someone who claims reality is a computer stimulation yet believes in global warming at the same time shows that he is inconsistent in his beliefs.

>>61118348
Toyota was already kicking Elon Musk's ass long before he came into the scene.

Protip: Most people replace their Teslas with Priuses after finding out how more convenient it is to repair and maintain their Priuses than Teslas.

For the last 15 years the only thing VW done in North America is destroy their reputation. There's a reason why non GTI golf don't sell well in America. Very often when I see a Jetta it's the GLI.

>>61097504
The best thing he could do for humanity is convince normies that nuclear power is the best option until we get net positive fusion power.

>>61097504
And he'll sail off into the sunset with taxpayers and investors $$$

>>61097504
>VW will beat him in the electric car game
The cheaper Model 3 will be more successful, most people can't afford a Model S, and at least he got other companies to start producing electric cars, and that's a huge achievement on it's own.

>Solar is a meme
The Tesla Solar Roof looks really promising and if the price is right i can see it having a huge adoption.

The Boring Company also looks promising

https://youtu.be/u5V_VzRrSBI

>>61119485
We can safely assume his lungs did not explode though.

>>61119496
musk a shit but how is that inconsistent?

>>61118404
>he thinks gasoline / petrol is actually liquid petroleum
Gas is short for gasoline, just like petrol is short for "petroleum derived liquid fuel compound."

>>61100886
Hyperloop one is not a Musk company.

>>61097574
>That's fine, at least he gave space and electric car industries a shakeup.
This.

>>61119509
Citation needed.

>>61102970
Are you disabled?

>>61103321
I bet kiddo didn't get one so he's still mad about the whole project.

>solar is a meme
t. coalcuck
Mining dino-juice is too harmful to continue and you damn well know it. Of all the renewables, solar is the most feasible so far, it's just a matter of battery tech catching up.

mars and transhumanism are way bigger memes than solar

>>61111405
>>61111431

That's embarrassing. Almost like fake grill. Model 3 is the first EV that is unapologetically designed to look like it isn't ICE.

>>61117346
Not the 3 they're not. We'll all have to see how it turns out.

>>61110325
this.

>>61110325
>2 seconds into video
>Ad hominem attacks instead of arguments
Lmao this is your response?

>>61117962
>>61117987
numbers?

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>>61119496
how is that an inconsistency?

>>61119509
I don't believe that. people who want actual electric don't want hybrids. also I'm sure the tesla drives much better. the prius is a great a to b car and it's a relatively easy, cheap, and practical car to own, but it is the opposite of a drivers car. anyone who actually enjoys driving would be annoyed by it immensely. it does have a crazy tight turn radius though, great for the city.

>>61097504
I wish I was lucky enough to be a rich historical footnote.

>>61117962
Soyuz costs about the same to launch as an expendable Falcon 9, but the Falcon has more than twice the payload. Dragon can carry seven astronauts as opposed to 3 for the soyuz capsule.

>>61097504
Oh it's that guy again. Yeah, he won't even be a footnote

>>61100812
DELID THIS

>>61111405
thats some autistic ricer, not stock tesla