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I need a small device with real keyboard. Can I get anything

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I need a small device with real keyboard.
Can I get anything better than Psion Gemini?

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device-phone#/
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>>61095033
>gpd shill
there is the gpd win, and the new gpd ...pocket?... both have a hardware keyboard and the second a more suitable for writing.

there, I even did you're advertizing, now leave and never come back.
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>>61095033
>indiegogo.com

not even once.

just get the new blackberry
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>>61095116
The win is outdated and arguably not even relevant to OP and the pocket is fucking garbage
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>>61095116
>both have a hardware keyboard
Both of these keyboards are shit.
I'm looking forward for that Gemini because previous Psions had the best mobile keyboards ever.
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>>61095033
Blackberry passport/classic/priv/keyone
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>>61095136
I have large hands. I remember that these small keys on previous blackberries were garbage.
I want a mobile device with real keyboard. For fucks sake! Why nobody sells these? Even fuckinbg Netbooks are dead now.
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>>61095033
bet this is more powerful
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>>61095173
Now I just need to hock this on Kickstarter and make millions
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>>61095160
You need a really bad case of sausage fingers to have a problem with the passports keyboard.
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P y r a
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>>61095173
Just, thought the same. if you want something for an android device there are a shitload of keyboards out there. most come with bluetooth these days but I got pretty much the same like in your picture with classic usb connector to tablets OTG.
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>>61095173
It doesn't have hinges also
>Android
NO!
ARM Linux or Windows/Linux Dual boot.
Plus FULL SIZE USB ports.
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>>61095129
>Win is outdated
>Pocket has the same SoC but isn't
What?
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>>61095216
Pyra isn't out!
I was waiting patiently.
Now they can go fuck themselves.
It's the same German snake oil like Neo900.
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>>61095230
Sorry, the pocket is outdated AND fucking garbage
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>>61095228
That wasn't a suggestion that was ridicule. Pointing out the fact that people like you pay up to $600 for devices like these with the same (or less) hardware capabilities as a smartphone and a $20 chink keyboard
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>>61095253
>outdated
literaly new devices, so new actual support landed just recently in linux kernel.

>garbage
yeah, great argument you got there pal. (intel botnet is garbage, though)
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>>61095033
Got you covered, OP
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>>61095300
What's the point of a cherry trail gaymen device?
What's the point of a $600 text editor with bad ergonomics?
Why do "great and innovative ideas" like these have to be fueled by half a million dollars of millennial allowance instead of making success on their own product?
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>>61095033
wow those bezels are worse than the pyra
impressive
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>>61095033
I'd suggest either a ~12" laptop or some Blackberry phone if BBOS or Android is fine. Anything between those is just awkward to type on because it's too small for regular touch-typing with all fingers and too big for typing with thumbs.
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>>61095283
Show me a smarthone with full sized USB ports, HDMI and unlocked bootloader so that you can install any OS onto it.
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>>61095323
It would be nice to be able to connect to the Internet and don't lose everything once the battery dies out.
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>>61095336
You mean a dongle
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>>61095351
Too bad they don't make em anymore because every faggot wants touchscreen phones for everything.
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>>61095351
for the record , it has non volatile memory
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>>61095326
>What's the point of a cherry trail gaymen device?
PC games anywhere
>What's the point of a $600 text editor with bad ergonomics?
Editing text
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>>61095326
why are you answering with easy to answer questions? Why should I even take time to answer such obvious question?
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POCKET IS 600 USD?!
Are they retarded?
I can get a Netbook for less than 80.
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>>61095390
The netbook also can't be pocketed.
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>>61095402
>The netbook also can't be pocketed.
How old are you?
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>>61095390
intel tax
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>>61095419
I wouldn't really count that as a netbook
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>>61095431
If I didn't hate Sony I would totally get a Vaio.
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>>61095390
See >>61095086
That thing is even more expensive
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>>61095477
>being this retarded
Fuck the logo, if it works for you, it works for you.
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>>61095423
$50 tablets often have at least the latest atom CPUs
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>>61095523
Nah.
The cheapest tablets with the same SoC start at 250 bucks and those are literary chink shit too, but even worse quality.
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>>61095388
But he's right, get a switch for gaymes and have better gaymen or get a chromebook for office and save $500
They're both either bad or have a cheaper similar device that wrecks it
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>>61095496
They were always overpriced to hell.
Fuck Apple and fuck Sony.
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>>61095569
what if I wanted to run a ordinary linux distro or even windows?
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>>61095577
Again, fuck the logo. If it works, it works.
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>>61095577
Buy used if you don't want to support evil companies.

I'm not OP but I'd love to have a pocket word processor with the largest possible keyboard.
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>>61095569
>Switch
Can't play Windows games
>Chromebook
Not pocketable
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>>61095577
This, there is a reason Sony stopped making Vaio.
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>>61095648
Vaios are the most fragile, botnetted Laptops known to man, don't do it.
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>>61095654
VAIO still makes VAIO though
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>>61095648
Thinkpad X61 for 82 USD?
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>>61095652
Why does it need to be pocketable but not a smartphone? I don't think there is much use for that, can you explain your usecase? Genuinly intrested
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>>61095033
>Psion Gemini
If only it had something like core m.

Damn this keyboard looks fucking sexy. It reminds me jornada 720.

but again with some old ass arm cpu its 250$ max with wifi only.
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>>61095695
Looks kewl. I'll check ebay.
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>>61095700
Because I don't want a cellphone OS and want to carry it in my pocket. It's nice being able to use desktop applications.
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>>61095685
Unfortunately, and they continued the bad design ideas.
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>>61095700
>but not a smartphone?
No physical keyboard.
No real OS.
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>>61095719
>Unfortunately
What's the issue? Nobody's forcing you to use their products.
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>600$ in retail

HAHAHAHAHAAHA
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>>61095733
True, I don't really care if you fall for it.
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>>61095717
>>61095721

Yeah, but what extra use do you get out of that? Physical keyboard I can understand. I'm still clinging to my passport. But why do you need/want to use desktop applications/ui on such a small device? I really can't understand what you get out of that. Please explain
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>>61095734
it's clearly overprized but on the other hand they can be like that because of the lack of competitors.
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>>61095780
>Yeah, but what extra use do you get out of that?
A real OS, a real keyboard, and real applications.
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>>61095336
>unlocked bootloader so that you can install any OS onto it
Almost all phones have unlockable bootloaders you fucking moron. The reason you can't put Linux on them is drivers.
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>>61095803
also, linux is a pain to use on devices without keyboard
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>>61095780
>Yeah, but what extra use do you get out of that?
real OS
>But why do you need/want to use desktop applications/ui on such a small device?
Remote work, weeb.
Testing scripts before ssh deployment.
Fixing bugs on the fly.
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>>61095791
Like what? What are you capable of doing on a 5-6 inch device with full linux that you can't do on an android? Please give me something other than buzzwords
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>>61095803
>Almost all phones have unlockable bootloaders
Bullshit
>also, linux is a pain to use on devices without keyboard
Yeah, that's why I want a keyboard.
It's the same as Android without a physical keyboard.
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>>61095830
Idk, I can do that from my phone via ssh.
Not a weeb though, maybe thats the problem?
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>>61095831
>What are you capable of doing on a 5-6 inch device with full linux that you can't do on an android?
Test my bash/python/perl/ruby scripts and C/C++ apps
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>>61095857
You write shit in terminal using virtual keyboard?
Your time must be worthless.
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>>61095857
Sorry, didn't read the testing before deployment part, that could actually be a usecase but I don't think I would like to type long scripts on a tiny keyboard.
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>>61095852
>>Almost all phones have unlockable bootloaders
>Bullshit
Okay nigger here's a list for you
Phones with bootloaders that can be looked and verified boot is even supported for third party operating systems:
Nexus 5x
Nexus 6p
Pixel
Pixel XL

Also note how none of these devices runs native linux (only chroot) despite google publishing the drivers/radio seperately. I wonder why that is. Oh, that's right. Because SoC manufacturers like qualcomm only release android drivers for their devices.
On the other hand, the Pyra (which uses a TI OMAP3530 SoC) does run GANOO+LOONIX because the manufacturer supports it. Now go kill yourself for not knowing that.
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>>61095937
>looked
unlocked'*
Sent from my Nexus 5x running CopperheadOS.
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>>61095831
even word processing or picture manipulation is difficult on android, paying extra money for apps that come somewhat near is possible if you're lucky.

usecase, I work on something on my desktop with the applications I'm used to and can switch over to my pocket device and continue with the same applications and interface without the need to convert and got zero hit on my workflow.

with android... good lord, this can't compare at all.
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>>61095884
No, I type on the physical keyboard my phone has. As I said: I get the appeal of a physical keyboard and am still using a BlackBerry Passport.
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>>61095788
I think its hard for them to lower price because they are producing in small numbers.

If they were able sell 2-3mln devices they could cut prices.
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>>61095960
I still think a laptop would be netter in this case.
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>>61095984
but what if I want something light I don't need a backpack for? something I can use in the subway within seconds out of my pocket just like a smartphone but for something useful?
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Neo900 mainboard is set to come out this summer maybe wait for that?
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>>61096148
Shut the fuck up. These scammers were supposed to release that shit 2 years ago.
This hardware is obsolete now.
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http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ben_NanoNote
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>>61096246
>336 MHz ARM processor
no
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>>61095569
>switch
Has no emulators, can't play desktop games. Does it even support piracy yet? Shit controller.
Overall, vita is still better. Rooted Android devices with bloatware removed are better too. And GPD WIN/Pocket is worth if you want to also play desktop games on the go.
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>>61096276
It was released around a decade ago.
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https://liliputing.com/2017/06/gpd-pocket-7-inch-windows-laptop-is-now-available-for-500-no-crowdfunding-required.html
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>>61096343
Niet. It was released in 2010.
Netbooks with better specs were available in 2007.
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>>61096353
Please look up the word 'around'. Perhaps purchasing a dictionary will serve you well.
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>>61096348
Not paying 500 bucks for a fucking Netbook.
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>>61095884
>>61095970
Kek, not carrying one of these babies in your EDC for maximum comfy, it's like you don't even want to have a good time
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>>61096406
If I have to carry a keyboard I might as well carry an entire laptop.
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>>61096420
>I might as well carry an entire laptop.
He's almost figured it out guys!
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>>61095719
Like?
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I have the new blackberry keyone and I really like the keyboard. Never used a blackberry before so can't compare to other blackberries. Took almost no time at all to get used to typing though.
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>>61096484
But it has no arrow keys.
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>tfw no Blackberry with dedicated punctuation keys for writing scripts/programs
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>>61096503
Go solve your own problem.

http://kicad-pcb.org/
https://www.digikey.com/products/en
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>>61096406
>filco_minila_air_bluetoot
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>>61095033

>small device

>real keyboard

pick one desu, you're not getting both.
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>>61096072
>something I can use in the subway within seconds out of my pocket just like a smartphone but for something useful?
I just have this image of you sat on the subway minding your own business, and thinking about what dragon dildo you'll purchase next month, when out of the blue a qt 3.14 girl gets on and sits opposite you! You have to demonstrate your potential as a mate to this alluring maiden, and no mere smartphone shall suffice for this task!

With great effort (why do they make these seats so small? you're not large they just design these for midgets) you manage to extract your UMPC from your trench coat, and carefully open it up. With a wink at the girl (who hasn't looked up yet - damn) you pull on your programming gloves, crack your knuckles (well you try and crack them at least) and lower the brim of your fedora just the tiniest fraction.

You know exactly what you must do your fingers blur as you feverishly type, then they ponderously tap the backspace key, then feverishly give it another go - nope still got some typos in there, shit I hope she didn't notice - glance - nope, still looking elsewhere, and look at that, third times the charm:
pacman -Syu


You can feel her arousal from over here, can already sense the moistness of her panties in the air (although that could conceivably be that derelict in the corner). Better tell mom to cancel your meetings - someone's getting lucky tonight.
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>>61096607
Wasn't there an old IBM laptop where the keyboard actually unfurled when you lifted the screen?
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>>61095136
don't forget the q10kun
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>>61096653
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>>61096684
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>>61096629
>pull on your programming gloves
>not programming socks
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>>61096684
>>61096710
Looks like a solution to me. /thread
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>>61095033
This >>61095121
Even the old passport would do
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Wireless charging could make pico projectors great. Imagine a keyboard that breaks into four pieces and stacks together to fit in your pocket. When assembled it would be full size and the back would project a screen. You could always carry a tiny collapsible projector screen and stand with you or you could just use a wall.
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>>61095326
>Why do "great and innovative ideas" like these have to be fueled by half a million dollars of millennial allowance instead of making success on their own product?


This guy doesnt understand basic financial funding lol do you even falling rate of profit?
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>>61096629
... you totaly forgot the rows of smartphone plebs kneeling in defeat and respect to the overwhelming superiority and masculinity. How can you not mention the old people with tears in their eyes for seeing a hope, a future for humanity compared to degenerates that are their own children and grandchildren. Let's not forget the children looking with big eyes for seeing nothing less than a hero they will aspire to become. A woman choir suddenly singing
ode to joy, doves flying by the window....
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>>61097057
No punctuation keys (although the passport silver is a very sexy device)
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>indiegogo
I wouldn't get your hopes up.
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>>61095477
That won't fit on her pocket.
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>>61096710
>>61096684
flimsy overengineered bullshit solution looking for a problem
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>>61095086
>people still trying to shill this thick-ass child's toy as a palmtop replacement
go back to /v/
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>>61096684
>>61096710
nobody would give a shit about this thing if it didn't have a /g/-cool IBM logo on it
unimpressive hardware, markup that made Macs look blue light special-tier and hinge failure out the ass while the butterfly keyboard wasn't even that spectacular as far as folding keyboards go, later PDA-targeted foldables did a way better job
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>>61095086
Is this a pokedex
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>>61095831
Anything I do on my desktop I'm content with doing on a smaller screen, and if I didn't prefer doing it on a desktop over a phone, I wouldn't have the desktop. Hell, I use XP on a 4.5" screen almost daily.
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>>61100402
I don't give a flying fuck who made it, it's the keyboard that makes me give a shit about it.
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>>61097246
Needed to save something back for the sequel anon
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>>61095323
Used one if these for a story on the Taliban around '95~96. Couldn't figure how to get the words out of the thing, so I ended up mailing the whole thing back to the office and used a pad and pencil for the rest of the assignment.
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>>61096406
>Small keyboard but let's keep the retardedly large European Enter key for no purpose
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>>61101810
>enter key should be small
? Also
>not complaining about the fn keys, or the placement of shift and delete
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>>61096684
I came
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>>61095477
This. Or in the past i had a hard-on for a full x86 surface phone but the microsharts cash gouge pushed me over the edge.
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Does anyone have any recommendations for a Windows 10/Linux tablet with 4G?

Pic related is what I bought 2 weeks ago. A cheap Win10 tablet for USD190~
However it does not have 4G, which seems to be rare for some reason. Or other wise only found in very expensive sets.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CHUWI-10-8-inch-Hi10-Plus-tablet-PC-Windows10-Redstone-Android-5-1-Dual-OS-Intel/32763486084.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.b2Ejsq
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>>61096459
Display borders as feets.
Special custom BIOS (Botnet Input Output System).
Drivers that didn't even work with the preinstalled OS correctly.
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I'm not too concerned about packet-ability, or even power. but I do like a small laptop, 13" or less. but every time I look up a nice looking chink or even non-chink ultrabook, convertable tablet or whatever, it always has shit battery life. I want 10 hours minimum of regular use. am I doomed to using extended batteries on my thinkpad or shelling out $1k for shit specs?
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>>61096406
>make a keyboard that is supposed to be small
>use retarded relatively large layout that squishes keys into 1u even though it retains ISO enter
>not using a 40% layout with larger keys with modifiers
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>>61106049
JD40
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>>61095569
The games you can play, natively and emulated on a Win, the count is several hundred times bigger then what the Switch can.
Not to mention, portability, unlocked software/hardware and battery life.
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>>61106117
is an atom powerful enough emulate PSP games?

and what is the battery life like on the GPD win/pocket?
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>>61106173
I don't see why not, you can emulate PSP games on phones now, can't you?
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>>61095477
Vaio doesn't belong to Sony anymore, you know?
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>>61106173
>is an atom powerful enough emulate PSP games?
More than enough, we aren't talking 2010 Atoms here. You can run the PSP games at several times native resolution without a hickup.

>and what is the battery life like on the GPD win/pocket?
Don't know about the Pocket, but for the Win, emulation like PSP you can get up to 5 hours (personal experience) with full screen brightness.
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I just want an update to the original Asus eeePC, with more modern hardware.

The formfactor of netbooks was awesome, shame tablets destroyed the market for them
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>>61104113
>windows 7 ui elements on windows 10

fucking trash
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>>61107043
asus still makes some ok ones, though no smaller than 10". also it seems they fuck certain regions in terms of their models. I can't buy the n4200 version of one of their notebooks without importing from canada.
I'm using an x205ta right now though and really like it. and by like it I mean it's a shitty laptop but it's very thin and light, has good enough specs for casual use, has 10 hour battery life, and it cost me just $100.
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>>61107144
>windows 10
>UI consistency

they made metro years ago and ever since then they've been trying to jam bits of it into everything until it's a jumbled mess outside the fullscreen UI, which is barebones and terrible anyways.
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>>61095830
>Testing scripts before ssh deployment.
Get a vps.
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>>61107282
>rent hardware instead of owning it
Totally the better option
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>>61095033
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTzO-_Yl4d0
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>>61095228
Just use USB OTG adapter and install linux on top of android.
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>>61095695
This.
I recently bought x60 and is doing great even with kde.
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>>61095086
Get that vaporware shit out of here
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>>61095033
Not practical to type on unless it's at least 6~8 inches across. At least.
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>>61101729
i was an ADHD 10 year old with bad handwriting who could still figure this shit out

the fuck is wrong with you? jesus christ
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>>61107144
>>61107215

My doujins are in zip/rar archives. For some reason, the Win10 Paint utility is not able to go to the next zipped file in the archive. Hence I purposely reenabled Win 7 ui elements through the registry.
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>>61095867
But you can do that.
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>>61095033
>meme crowdsourced hardware

Has anything crowdsourced EVER been a good product that was actually delivered on time?
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test
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>>61095419
That's ok if you are fine with a keyboard that has already been used and might have broken keys.
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>>61096684
>>61096710
oh baby, that's so sexy
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>>61095033
>No stylus
>Probably uses Android Phone OS UI

Ruined. into the trash it goes.
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>>61101484
it's just a shitty laptop keyboard that splits in half and moves along a track, it looks nice but it's hardly deserving of the hype you drooling faggots give it

at least jerk off to a real 7 series that wasn't based on technology that was already obsolete three years before they prettied it up and put a $3,300 price tag on it
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>>61095033
https://panasonic.jp/cns/pc/products/xz6b/


get the new panasonic mini laptops
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>>61104113
>no more piyo-tan
>ever
end me
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>>61115821
>stylus on a palmtop
literally why
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>>61116655
It's neat.
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>>61096406
>>61096557
>>61102056
i have that minila, usb version. for some reason the stock key caps are ridiculously loose and keep falling off.
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>>61095121
>>61097057
>>61097629
Blackberry KeyOne.

Trust me. Not as big of a screen as the passport but for real. It's the one.
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>>61119435
Where the fuck has this phone been for all my life?
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>>61119523
It only just launched. Best buy in my town got them shipped and arrived like 3 days ago I think. My buddy who works at geek squad sent them to me. Amazon sells them but I'm not even sure if Best buy has it on the display floor yet.
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>>61119535
This phone is amazingly close to my ideal phone in about every spec/detail. /ordered
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>>61119601
I might get one too desu

>Tfw I typed desu and not f.a.m.
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>>61095033
>play video
>repulsive woman voice with a British accent
Fuck off, I'm not buying it solely because of that. These mongoloids should educate themselves about the importance of good marketing.
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>>61095033
>Mediakek Helio X25
Probably yes. Avoid this
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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